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  • Scott Dann

    2 6.90%
  • Per Mertersacker

    2 6.90%
  • Phill Jagielka

    3 10.34%
  • Gary Cahill

    13 44.83%
  • Chris Samba

    9 31.03%
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    Center Back

    As the news swirls around as to who and when our transfer targets will come through, I, as long as I'm sure, many of you will wonder, why the fuck has it taken so long. In any case, I believe at least one, and perhaps two Center Backs will be coming through by August 31st.

    Who do you think we should get? To aid in your decision making, here are some stats and youtube clips:




    Aerial Duels Won% last 3 seasons:
    Gallas 55%,
    Toure 49%,
    Dann 60%,
    Hangeland 71%,
    Terry 68%,
    Upson 63%,
    Skrtel 71%,
    Smalling 67%,
    P Jones 52%
    Djourou 61%,
    Koscielny 53%,
    Squillaci 53%,
    Vermaelen 60%,
    Cahill 66%,
    Jagielka 58%,
    Samba 70%,
    Vidic 73%


    Mertesacker v Dann
    Aerial Duels 202-249
    Aerial won% 72%-60%
    Tackles 117-125
    Clearances 385-490
    Blocks 47-46
    Interceptions 227-81
    Fouls 70-43
    Mins 7700-4500
    Goals 9-2
    Shots 48-26
    Assists 4-3
    Chances created 21-10
    Pass% opp half 72%-52%
    Duels won 69%-63%


    Samba vs Cahill
    Goals 3-4
    Shots 41-32
    Pass% 64%-72%
    Tackles/90 1.56-1.92
    Interceptions/90 2.1-1.8
    Clearances/90 11.2-10.8
    Aerial Duels 68%-63%


    Cahill vs Jagielka
    Age 25 (born December)-28 (born August)
    England Caps 3-9
    Contract expires 1 year-4 years
    Reported value 17m?-18m?
    Aerial Duels 563-215
    Aerial won% 66%-58%
    Tackles 158-173
    Clearances 1169-736
    Blocks 107-79
    Interceptions 160-158
    Fouls 78-33
    Mins 8794-6715
    Goals 11-1
    Shots 80-29
    Assists 5-0
    Chances created 22-20
    Pass% opp half 52%-59%
    Duels won 69%-71%

    With courtesy of orbinho.
    Last edited by AKBapologist; 10-08-2011 at 02:01 PM.

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    I think Samba would be the most effective but for Wengerball purposes Cahill might be the most suitable.

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    Metersacker vs Dann? From completely different leagues, with different styles in different countries and are a differnt kind of defender.

    I appreciate the stats mate but its comparing apples and oranges without the complementary info around styles and roles and defensive jobs. You cant even compare centre backs in the same side mate as they perform different jobs.

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    Should have mentioned, but those stats where from Orbinho in response to fan requests. Feel free to compare with Samba, Dann or Jagelka.

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    Only really Gary Cahill from that list, even he might be too expensive and English for Wengers tastes.

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    Besides it dosnt matter who we buy, they will look shit. Said it before and will say it again, we could have the best back 4 in the world and would still look casual, uniterested, bambi-like and still concede stupid goals.

    You know why? We have no organisation, no team defence, no help from the midfield, a huge gulf between the defence and midfield, we play too high a line, are physically weak, are different nationalities and have no concept of what "winning" a duel is.

    IMO we have one actual defender in the whole squad and thats Sagna, he is so much better than the rest its almost embarassing for him at times. (I( cant judge vermaelen as i cant even remember what he looks like) Our team will continue to concede goals while we are coached and set up this way.

    Also the DM's we have with are a bit shit which doesnt help either.

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    Cahill. Defo.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Just get Mertersacker and Cahill, it only come to about 24-26 Mill for the 2. Plus Mertersacker will be good for Euro games while Cahill will be good for EPL games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    Besides it dosnt matter who we buy, they will look shit. Said it before and will say it again, we could have the best back 4 in the world and would still look casual, uniterested, bambi-like and still concede stupid goals.

    You know why? We have no organisation, no team defence, no help from the midfield, a huge gulf between the defence and midfield, we play too high a line, are physically weak, are different nationalities and have no concept of what "winning" a duel is.

    IMO we have one actual defender in the whole squad and thats Sagna, he is so much better than the rest its almost embarassing for him at times. (I( cant judge vermaelen as i cant even remember what he looks like) Our team will continue to concede goals while we are coached and set up this way.

    Also the DM's we have with are a bit shit which doesnt help either.
    Flava flave(smacks the gong) , plus the which ever cunt we get will be injured for a few months by the time he has played 3 games for us.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 10-08-2011 at 03:10 PM.

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    Just on anotehr point as well, Metersacker is a bit shit as is Hangeland tbf.

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