Arshavin

[Niall_Quinn]

See, thats not the right kind of response. Ach thinks we should be battling for the title (and I completely agree) but I dont think he should be told to fuck off... why instigate something when he has a difference in opinion? I agree with some of his opinions and some I dont but I know he cares for Arsenal!

See, that's not the right kind of response to that kind of response. You think that Ach thinks we should be battling for the title (and you completely agree) but I don't think you should be telling people who have told Ach to fuck off not to tell him to fuck off... why agitate somebody who is trying to instigate something with somebody who has a difference of opinion? I agree it's fine for you to agree with some of his opinions and disagree with some, I know you know he cares for Arsenal although I'll be fucked if I know how you know it. In all fairness you should fuck off and support city or Spurs.

[Ollie the Optimist]

no he needs to fuck off, get fit and actually understand what putting a shift in means. he does fuck all on the pitch and is so fucking lazy its unbelievable. he can fuck right off now

[Xhaka Can’t]

See, that's not the right kind of response to that kind of response. You think that Ach thinks we should be battling for the title (and you completely agree) but I don't think you should be telling people who have told Ach to fuck off not to tell him to fuck off... why agitate somebody who is trying to instigate something with somebody who has a difference of opinion? I agree it's fine for you to agree with some of his opinions and disagree with some, I know you know he cares for Arsenal although I'll be fucked if I know how you know it. In all fairness you should fuck off and support city or Spurs.

See, that's not the right kind of response to that kind of response. You think that Fakeyank thinks we should be battling for the title (and you think Ach completely agrees) but I don't think you should be telling people who have told people not to tell Ach to fuck off...why agitate someone who is agitating somebody who is trying to instigate something with someone who is instigating something with somebody who has a difference of opinion with someone who has a different opinion from someone with an opinion? I agree its fine for you to agree its fine for him to agree with some of his opinions and disagree with some, I know you don't know how he knows he cares for Arsenal but I'll be fucked how I know you know. In all fairness you should suck Wenger's dick.

[Niall_Quinn]

So we're agreed, everyone needs to fuck off apart form myself who needs to go and suck dick. I'm glad we've got that sorted. Teamwork!

Something that fat Russian and spotty French kid don't seem to understand...

[Master Splinter]

Something that fat Russian and spotty French kid don't seem to understand...

He's black.

Can't see his spots tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's black.

Can't see his spots tbh.

I didn't say the spots were on his face.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

See, thats not the right kind of response. Ach thinks we should be battling for the title (and I completely agree) but I dont think he should be told to fuck off... why instigate something when he has a difference in opinion? I agree with some of his opinions and some I dont but I know he cares for Arsenal!

where did i or anyone else say we should not, end of the day we ain't winning the league this season and no amout of aiming to will change that.

If aw said tommrow we can win the league you'd say he barking mad so would ACH, so the guy could never win can he.

better to be realistic.

im talking about this season though.

[Letters]

Cos with Wenger in charge, it'll only get worse. This current run we are on is only a blip. We'll be back to normal soon.

'Normal' for Arsenal under Wenger is top 4 finishes.
I'm interested to know why you think the recent run (which is more indicitive of Arsenal as they've generally been under Wenger, especially early season) has been the blip rather than the poor start (which has never happened before under Wenger).

The end of last season was a car crash, there was clearly a lot of disruption in the summer, a lot of players left and morale was through the floor. We had a terrible start but (possibly prompted by the Old Trafford debacle) made some decent deadline day signings and they're starting to look like a decent team again, the sort of team I've come to expect under Wenger.

It all points to the early season form being the blip, not the recent run.

[IBK]

Re Arshavin - I suspect that he is one of those players who need an arm around them to ensure that they are in the right mental place to play. Wenger doesn't roll that way, so I think the writing's on the wall. Also, IIRC Arshavin had an issue with how much tax he has to pay here, and hasn't really been the same since?

[Fist of Lehmann]

Re Arshavin - I suspect that he is one of those players who need an arm around them to ensure that they are in the right mental place to play. Wenger doesn't roll that way, so I think the writing's on the wall. Also, IIRC Arshavin had an issue with how much tax he has to pay here, and hasn't really been the same since?

I think the general perception is the opposite, that Wenger is too protective of his players. There are plenty of quotes from players to this effect. Frinstance:

Walcott in the Telegraph

There have been accusations that Wenger is too protective of his players, that his unwavering public loyalty does not foster resilience in his charges. The sacrifices of the manager do not go unnoticed by the players, though.

“The boss is always there for us and he takes a lot of it on his back,” he said. “I know people say there’s a lot of pressure because we are not winning things…There are things he won’t say to you [in the press] that he’ll say to us. He’ll have a go at us when he needs to. We want to win something for him.

"He has shown so much faith in us for so many years so we need to repay him. People are looking at him but maybe they need to be looking at the players because we are not producing it. He believes so much in this team…he’d die for the team. And that’s probably what we need to get in our system: we need to be prepared to die for each other. I think that’s what we are missing at the moment.

By the sounds of it, the only thing Arshavin is dying for is a tax break.

And for me Arshavin is starting to look like the kind of player who has a purple patch, a couple of great tournaments, and then just bottoms out. Before his move there were doubts voiced about why he had come to prominence so late, why had he spent so many years in Russia in anonymity.

I think we are seeing why now, and it's looking more and more likely that Arshavin is just another player who flatters to deceive.