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    Wenger's approach has clearly been successful in the past. He does need some strong leaders out on the pitch though and we've been lacking that.
    As we fell apart vs Newcastle and Spurs last year, amongst others, he could only sit and watch. It's the players who have to pull themselves together and stop that sort of thing happening.

    I see signs of hope though with players like Chesney, TV5 and Wilshere who could be leaders out there and pick us up when it's starting to go against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    It's clear that Wenger is not a great motivator IMO. What is most indicative is the way we respond to setbacks. Over the last few seasons, we have seen this team collapse spectacularly after a damaging result in a cup or league match or a traumatic incident during a game. This happened in 07-08 (Eduardo's injury and maulings in the Carling Cup and FA Cup), in 09-10 (after the Birmingham draw) and 10-11 after the Carling Cup defeat. A proper motivator would be able to pick the squad up from these disappointments, and it's what Fergie is great at doing.
    I agree. Last season's defeat to Birmingham would have been dismissed by Moronhio or Ferguson as a one-off and their teams would have come back even stronger. We fell apart in the remaining games. Wenger almost pre-empted it by saying that he was worried that his team would be affected mentally but hoped that it wouldnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgoon View Post
    I agree. Last season's defeat to Birmingham would have been dismissed by Moronhio or Ferguson as a one-off and their teams would have come back even stronger. We fell apart in the remaining games. Wenger almost pre-empted it by saying that he was worried that his team would be affected mentally but hoped that it wouldnt.
    That's what happen's with a young squad imo. Fergie has players like giggs scholes and neville to guide the team. Moaninho had Lampard, Tery and Drogba. Who did we have? Our captain was injured and dreaming of Barca, TV5 injured. Who did we have to drive the team forward? ANswer.... Nae CUNT!

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    Wenger aint out there kicking the ball around. Our greatest hope was Wilshere, yet it is far too early in his career to look for him to inspire the whole team and drag them out of the doldrums. Wenger can do his bit before and during the game, but ultimately it is the responsibility of the players on the pitch to get a result. And YES I am coming out in support of Wenger. When he needed inspiration on the pitch he couldn't exactly turn to the bench for experience could he? How many on this board can remember when Liverpool were winning everything and we were just a sideshow in the league? Who remembers the last minute goal to win us the league at anfield? How many here can remember a time when we finished lower than 4th in the league?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edinburgh Gooner View Post
    Wenger aint out there kicking the ball around. Our greatest hope was Wilshere, yet it is far too early in his career to look for him to inspire the whole team and drag them out of the doldrums. Wenger can do his bit before and during the game, but ultimately it is the responsibility of the players on the pitch to get a result. And YES I am coming out in support of Wenger. When he needed inspiration on the pitch he couldn't exactly turn to the bench for experience could he? How many on this board can remember when Liverpool were winning everything and we were just a sideshow in the league? Who remembers the last minute goal to win us the league at anfield? How many here can remember a time when we finished lower than 4th in the league?
    Exactly the attitude we need. Keep looking at our past and saying "thank god" and not having ambition

    Yes, days were bad in the 80s and I could care less. We have the resources to challenge at the top yet we always fall short because of AW's stubbornness. With the way football is being run these days, if we dont keep pace, soon we will be in midtable scrapping for Europa league places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    Wenger's approach has clearly been successful in the past. He does need some strong leaders out on the pitch though and we've been lacking that.
    As we fell apart vs Newcastle and Spurs last year, amongst others, he could only sit and watch. It's the players who have to pull themselves together and stop that sort of thing happening.

    I see signs of hope though with players like Chesney, TV5 and Wilshere who could be leaders out there and pick us up when it's starting to go against us.
    We have more inexperienced players than players with experience starting in our squad. Also, we hardly have any players that know how to win a league title. We can't expect them to walk before they can actually crawl. it's all well and good saying the players should raise their game, but some just don't the capacity to and when you have a coah that isn't demanding more from them, what do you expect?

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