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[Power n Glory]

Good piece by Trevor Noah about this (someone I usually find kinda irritating).
When a plane crashes literally no-one says "this isn't the time to talk about aeroplane safety", it's the first thing which is spoken about. The incident is analysed, the reasons for it determined and processes reviewed to see whether they can change anything to stop it happening again. With these incidents it's "thoughts and prayers" and "this is not the time to talk about gun control". Isn't it? When is then? Sheesh!

Piers Morgan, someone I can't stand, had a similar article and said if the gunman were Muslim the President would already have politicised the incident. He'd have had some sort of policy in place to avoid something like this happening again.

[Letters]

Yes, generally want to poke Morgan in the eye but completely correct in this instance.

Apparently he was at Ricky Gervais last night (Morgan, not Trump). Didn't see him

Gervais was on form.

Gervais

[Globalgunner]

The Press, BBC, CNN, Sky et al are now all going with the narrative that this was a disturbed man and he actually planned to escape. Escape?. Really?. The man had barricaded himself in his room with about a dozen loaded guns and thousands of rounds. The only way he could have escaped is if his so called secret life was as Spider Man and he planned to scale down the glass curtainwalls.

What amazes me is these spoon fed journos all just wait for the latest press release and go on repeating it until the next release. Decades ago the journalists would be ahead of the police chasing this man`s history down themselves doing what journalists are supposed to do.

[Letters]

He could have escaped like this?

[Niall_Quinn]

Probably something in that but no-one needs a collection of guns like that for any sensible reason. Crazy that you can just get them in the US.

Most of them were illegal and not on general sale. Apparently criminals don't obey the law.

[Niall_Quinn]

Good piece by Trevor Noah about this (someone I usually find kinda irritating).
When a plane crashes literally no-one says "this isn't the time to talk about aeroplane safety", it's the first thing which is spoken about. The incident is analysed, the reasons for it determined and processes reviewed to see whether they can change anything to stop it happening again. With these incidents it's "thoughts and prayers" and "this is not the time to talk about gun control". Isn't it? When is then? Sheesh!

They don't say, let's ban planes either. There are already plenty of gun regulations in the States and there's total gun control in France, Belgium and other parts of Europe. Doesn't do a thing to stop mass shootings, terrorism and other acts of violence. The left wants guns banned, not to prevent death and injury, but to disarm the citizenry and leave it dependant entirely in the state.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Press, BBC, CNN, Sky et al are now all going with the narrative that this was a disturbed man and he actually planned to escape. Escape?. Really?. The man had barricaded himself in his room with about a dozen loaded guns and thousands of rounds. The only way he could have escaped is if his so called secret life was as Spider Man and he planned to scale down the glass curtainwalls.

What amazes me is these spoon fed journos all just wait for the latest press release and go on repeating it until the next release. Decades ago the journalists would be ahead of the police chasing this man`s history down themselves doing what journalists are supposed to do.

Yes, I saw that too. Behind the scenes the narrative is falling apart.

[Letters]

They don't say, let's ban planes either. There are already plenty of gun regulations in the States and there's total gun control in France, Belgium and other parts of Europe. Doesn't do a thing to stop mass shootings, terrorism and other acts of violence. The left wants guns banned, not to prevent death and injury, but to disarm the citizenry and leave it dependant entirely in the state.

I haven't heard anyone say ban guns. That is never going to happen in the US. But does anyone really need the quantity and type of weapon this bloke had?
Is that for "protection"? People ARE saying that there should be a debate about gun control in the US. People can be on FBI watch lists in the US and still quite legally obtain powerful weapons. No law is going to completely prevent incidents any more than any pre-flight checks are going to completely prevent crashes. But doing nothing in a country which has a ridiculous rate of gun deaths is ludicrous. The trouble in the US is you can't even start a debate about this without the NRA claiming, completely spuriously, that "they" want to take all the guns away. Trump was saying it in the run up to the election, that Hillary "wants to take your guns away". Complete bare faced lie.
"Remove all guns" and "Have as many assault weapons as you like" are not the only two options here.

[Niall_Quinn]

The guns he allegedly used were illegally modified. You cannot go to Walmart and buy that type of weapon. There are already gun laws, in some states stringent by American standards. Criminals tend not to pay much attention to the law. The left is so engorged on authoritarianism it believes just by stating demands those demands will automatically be met. Criminals think differently.

Even in the UK with its appalling nanny state society, criminals obtain and use guns. Guns will always be available for those who want them because governments purchase vast amounts of weapons annually. Governments are also notoriously wasteful, careless and often underhand in the management of weaponry. Look at the vast arsenal of weapons left in the desert for ISIS to pick up. Even with the strictest gun laws, even with a total ban on purchases, governments will never give up their guns. Governments are the biggest customer for and the most irresponsible pedlars of guns and assorted weapons.

Get rid of the government, that will solve so many problems.

[Letters]

Yes, in any society and no matter what the laws are, some criminals will obtain weapons. That is not an argument to do nothing.
And yes, some of the weapons this bloke had were modified but not all and they were all very powerful assault rifles which even without modification are designed to kill a lot of people very efficiently. You cannot sensibly claim this sort of weapon is for protection or self defence.
The US is the only country, as far as I know, where these sorts of weapons can be bought quite legally at gun shows with no background checks.
By co-incidence, the US is the only developed country which has this insane rate of gun crimes and mass shootings.