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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieira View Post


    Bloody hell.

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    Even the Guardian doesn't buy into it the bullshit.

    What you need is a tighter suicide control. Maybe a nanny following everyone around?
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    It's ok. Stand down everyone. Seems the shooter was male so it's thoughts and prayers and nothing can be done.

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    After the South Carolina shooting I just assumed he didn’t like blacks
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    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Even the Guardian doesn't buy into it the bullshit.
    What, specifically, do you think is "bullshit"?

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    The devious attempt to equate gun deaths to combat deaths.

    By including suicides.

    Dishonest in the extreme, so much so that even the Guardian won't touch it.

    Those figures reveal that 500 deaths per year, out of an average 2.6 million (2014 stats) are attributable to 'mass' (I assume that means more than one) shootings. That's 0.02%

    See what I did there?

    Odd, isn't it, that a government that commits by far the most gun violence against civilians than any other nation or group on the planet wants to deny millions of law abiding citizens their constitutional rights based on a vanishingly small pretext? This sudden desire for the establishment to save 500 lives a year. How touching.

    How many die from poverty?
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    Ok. That's a pretty fair point. But there is a mass shooting (defined as 4 or more deaths or injuries) more or less every day in the US.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-gun-violence

    It is "a problem" which needs addressing. It's a significantly bigger problem in the US, statistically, than terrorism. But the difference in response is stark.
    Las Vegas "not the time..." New York "immediate response..." Texas "Monitoring the situation..."

    I'm sure that's nothing to do with how much money the NRA pump into the Republicans of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Ok. That's a pretty fair point. But there is a mass shooting (defined as 4 or more deaths or injuries) more or less every day in the US.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...s-gun-violence

    It is "a problem" which needs addressing. It's a significantly bigger problem in the US, statistically, than terrorism. But the difference in response is stark.
    Las Vegas "not the time..." New York "immediate response..." Texas "Monitoring the situation..."

    I'm sure that's nothing to do with how much money the NRA pump into the Republicans of course...
    The US constitution provides Americans with the right to bear arms. The founders were smart enough to know just how essential this provision is, given they had just defeated an abusive regime that tried to enforce its will on the people. The fundamental difference between provisions enshrined in the constitution as opposed to mere statutes the control immigration is obvious. There is no comparison whatsoever and the mechanisms and principles anchoring each are entirely different. What's really happening here is a simple change in the law that would tighten up controls on immigrants entering from war zones is being blocked by courts that have a clear political bias. But even this is merely scratching the surface. As I asked previously, what is ISIS? How was it formed? How is it funded? Who has supported it all along?

    Then there's the deceit of the establishment media. Notice how terrorists don't kill people - trucks do that. And criminals don't kill people - guns do that. How many guns are there in the States? When suicides and accidents are removed from the equation, how many gun deaths in comparison to the number of gun holders? And where do so many of those deaths occur? In the states with strict controls. Criminals do not obey the law. Only law abiding citizens obey the law. The target of these gun control measures is the law abiding citizenry. Not the criminals. The constitution protects the citizenry against authoritarian measures such as removal of the right to bear arms. So this is all one giant non-issue. If the state wants to take away guns then it will have to do so by force. And with all its tanks and bombs and missiles, it doesn't have the capacity to do that without causing a bloodbath that even the zombies would notice. Instead, it relies on propaganda and manipulation to encourage the citizenry to disarm itself. Well that's not working. The establishment loses credibility daily. Soon it will have none at all. And at that time who knows what it will resort to to maintain a grip on power? The jellied liberals will be happy the portion of the citizenry with spines are armed when that time comes.
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