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    What objective standards? Surely the successful career is an objective measure?
    What else is there?
    His job was to make people laugh.
    People paid to go and see him. He made them laugh.
    That’s the criteria for being successful

    Of that there is no argument

    But Tom Green being popular for a while doesn’t make him talented

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    How does one objectively measure "talent"?

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    How does one objectively measure "talent"?
    By comparison generally

    Compare Dodd to any other comedian around at the time who in terms of sophistication of humour outshone him in every way

    Talented comedians change and evolve the medium of comedy. Dodd was effectively a theatre hall vaudevillian, very light hearted and inoffensive but basically bland

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ View Post
    Dodd was effectively a theatre hall vaudevillian, very light hearted and inoffensive but basically bland
    OK. I don't disagree with that. But you could say the same about Ronnie Barker. He never did "edgy" stuff, he was of his time as was Dodd.
    People found him entertaining although I'll admit I did go and see him one time (shut it) and I...lowered the average age somewhat.

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    OK. I don't disagree with that. But you could say the same about Ronnie Barker. He never did "edgy" stuff, he was of his time as was Dodd.
    People found him entertaining although I'll admit I did go and see him one time (shut it) and I...lowered the average age somewhat.
    Barker was one of the most talented comedy actors there was.

    That and as the writer of the two Ronnie sketches I think he did very much evolve comedy

    Some of the sketches are not only funny but incredibly original for their time as well

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    Barker was probably a bad comparison. I think Dodd was just of his time. People found him entertaining enough back in the day. Like Wenger.
    In brief:
    Baker > Dodd.

    But still Dodd

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    "[Dodd was] an icon, a one-off and a true professor of comedy"
    -Russ Abbot

    Doesn't get much higher praise than that

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    Dodd in!
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    He was no Pat Lampard.
    If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ View Post
    By comparison generally

    Compare Dodd to any other comedian around at the time who in terms of sophistication of humour outshone him in every way

    Talented comedians change and evolve the medium of comedy. Dodd was effectively a theatre hall vaudevillian, very light hearted and inoffensive but basically bland
    He was a light entertainer, family viewing and all that, the Diddy Men were meant to appeal to kids, there's still a place for family entertainment now.

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