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[Niall_Quinn]

This is classical trump Derangement Syndrome.....Everything Trump is bad. everything was hunky dory until Trump came along. the Democrats always pick the worst possible candidate and expect people to fall in line...cos Trump. trump is the creation of the Dems decades of lying mendacity pretending to be the peoples champions while participating wholescale in the routine raping and pillaging of economies, foreign and domestic. Hillary was a terrible candidate and they scoured the nether regions of their stash of awful candidates and found another just as bad.

Biden. Copied a Neil Kinnock speech word for word and claimed it as his own
Biden. Claimed he graduated "top of his class" when he actually came 175th out of 185
Biden. Claimed he went to South Africa and was arrested protesting for Mandela`s freedom. Not found in any public records
Biden. Used his VP office to make cash grabs for his son and get a prosecutor fired.

and Letters. pls stop showing your ignorance by claiming Hillary won the public vote. Its nonsense because that is not the game at all. You can win the vote and lose the election. Thats what the system is. Same as first past the post in UK. How many popular votes have Tories lost and still occupy the PM slot

And he ACTUALLY grabbed her by the pussy. But so far no live televised show trials. Any day now I guess.

[Letters]

Wasn't true? WTF?

He said that "There is no way (zero) that mail-in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent"

My emphasis. There may be evidence of fraud and cause for concern for postal voting but substantially? Is there evidence of that? Bear in mind that Trump has previous on this, claiming without any basis that there were 2 million fraudulent votes in the last election.

And the arbiter of truth, by the way, is truth

That's a completely meaningless statement. How do we know what the truth IS? We all read things, see things, hear things. How do we know whether those things are true?

[Niall_Quinn]

Trump only won the last one because the "other guy" was Hillary Clinton. Even then she won the popular vote.
If the Dems put up anyone half decent they will wipe the floor with him, but I fear they won't

So name a Dem who is half decent.

[Mac76]

and Letters. pls stop showing your ignorance by claiming Hillary won the public vote. Its nonsense because that is not the game at all. You can win the vote and lose the election. Thats what the system is. Same as first past the post in UK. How many popular votes have Tories lost and still occupy the PM slot

surely the point is that yes, the system delivered the White House to Trump, but it's a mistake to think he was elected on a tidal wave of support, and becasue that wasn't the case it means he is that much more vulnerable next time round.

[Letters]

This is classical trump Derangement Syndrome.....Everything Trump is bad. everything was hunky dory until Trump came along.

Complete straw man, literally no-one is saying that.

and Letters. pls stop showing your ignorance by claiming Hillary won the public vote.

Umm. She did. . It wasn't a claim, it's a documented fact.

[Niall_Quinn]

He said that "There is no way (zero) that mail-in ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent"

My emphasis. There may be evidence of fraud and cause for concern for postal voting but substantially? Is there evidence of that? Bear in mind that Trump has previous on this, claiming without any basis that there were 2 million fraudulent votes in the last election.


That's a completely meaningless statement. How do we know what the truth IS? We all read things, see things, hear things. How do we know whether those things are true?

LOL. Only 2 million? It's not like him to be so reserved. Voter fraud is, and has been, rampant in the States for decades. On both sides. Either side has its favoured method. There are several, excellent journalists who have tracked and carefully documented this for many years. But they don't get the coverage because fraud is part of the game. A fundamental part. But you're doing your misdirection thing again - to avoid the points I raised. One being, you can't fact check an opinion about a future event. And should you try to pull such a ridiculous stunt, it's probably best not to use the fake news media to verify your fortune telling.

You know what truth is by doing the legwork, rather than waiting for some authority figure to spoon-feed you. You can also understand the truth, minus any facts, when it is a moral or ethical issue. You may never get to the whole truth and nothing but the truth, some truths are unknowable. But you can often arrive in the vicinity of the truth, which in turn assists with revealing other truths or paths to other truths. I've constantly encouraged you to do just that, but your instant response is to run to authority to "prove" the truth.

[Globalgunner]

surely the point is that yes, the system delivered the White House to Trump, but it's a mistake to think he was elected on a tidal wave of support, and becasue that wasn't the case it means he is that much more vulnerable next time round.

Nobody is saying that, at least not me. Trump and the Republican had run the numbers on the day before the election and had already accepted defeat. They couldnt believe it when they won. Every opinion poll said they would lose. How is that not a tideswell of unknown support?. These people have majorly not left him and the Democrats cant get the independents to come out and vote for Biden. who the fk wants Biden for president that is under 65 years of age. Im pretty sure it will be another landslide. If you analyse the total results of 2016. I think Republicans won like 70% of all the contests across the board. Hold 33 out of 50 governors and just recently won 2 by elections in the house(I think) there is no rush to vote for Biden, hence the Corona home vote tactic.

[Globalgunner]

Complete straw man, literally no-one is saying that.





Umm. She did. . It wasn't a claim, it's a documented fact.

..and so what?. She lost the electoral college 320 to 206 or something. You dont play table tennis when the game is at Wimbledon. and not Wimbledon FC before you start again.

[Niall_Quinn]

The truly amazing thing is, everybody should be delighted that freedom of speech is being defended - at long last. After years of erosion. Whether anything will come of it is another matter, but at least a move has finally been made. Something that benefits us all and something we can all get behind. Or so you would think.

But no - ORANGE MAN BAAAAAAAAAA-D!

[Letters]

..and so what?. She lost the electoral college 320 to 206 or something. You dont play table tennis when the game is at Wimbledon. and not Wimbledon FC before you start again.

So as hated as Clinton was, a lot of people voted for her - probably because they didn't want Trump.
And a lot of people voted for Trump because they didn't want Clinton.

Like a lot of elections, it was about choosing the least bad option. My point was if the Dems could find a decent candidate then they'd probably win quite easily. As NQ alludes to though, that's easier said than done.