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    They always 'back down' because they're perennially coming up with such bollocks in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    They always 'back down' because they're perennially coming up with such bollocks in the first place.
    I have some time for them bowing to the pressure on this one.

    Although now they've created a different mess because the teacher grades are unrealistically high. So now university courses are going to be oversubscribed as more people will have been given the grades they need than the university could have predicted.

    So...yeah, as usual they've made a complete bollox up of it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Well. They have at least conceded the point rather than doubling down.
    I’ll give them that.
    Mistakes were made. Provided lessons are learned I think it's reasonable to forget about this, say in a month or so, and carry on as if nothing has happened.
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    The teachers marks were something like 30% up on last year which is clearly bollox. So actually the government were right to make adjustments. The main thing they got wrong seems to have been the algorithm didn’t deal well with outliers. So the really bright, hard working kid at a rough school got clobbered. And, of course, you only hear from the losers. They probably should have stuck to their guns and dealt with the exceptions in the appeal process.

    Now we’ve got hugely inflated results and universities scrambling around trying to fit everyone in. The predictable omnishambles.

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    Weirdly it isn’t just the Tory government to blame on this one.

    We are in a stupid situation where the Tories attack the SNP for screwing up results there but then ignore any attacks on them for the English results, Labour attack the Tories but then ignore anything on the Welsh Labour screw up & Northern Ireland has also backtracked.

    Only party who can claim they are not to blame are the Lib Dem’s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Weirdly it is just the Tory government to blame on this one.
    Yeah, that is weird that the party running the country are blamed for fucking things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yeah, that is weird that the party running the country are blamed for fucking things up.
    Yeah i should read the post before hitting send. Meant to write “isn’t”

    The reason being is that each devolved administration has presided over the same fuck up. Labour, Tories, SNP & whoever is in charge in Northern Ireland all got it wrong. Hard to blame just one party when all are very different!

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    To be fair, I don't think there was any way to get this right.
    Using the teacher's estimates which means a 30% improvement on last year is pretty clearly the wrong thing to do.
    But the algorithm dealt with some people unfairly. I'd suggest there is no algorithm which would have kept everyone happy, and obviously it's the losers you hear from.

    As I said above they should have just stuck to their guns - maybe they should have explained beforehand that they would deal with any injustices individually afterwards. But then there would have been a massive outcry before the fact because people don't understand that there is no way of doing this perfectly. My gut feel is the algorithm got it right for a very high percentage of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
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