All fair & reasonable points made by letters & mac.
Suspect none of will change each other’s minds on this but enjoyable to debate it.
Our local MP at the time came to a couple of events at our church (he's a Tory, a Christian and a Gooner, so only 1/3rd bad!) around the time of that election, once before and once after. I remember chatting to him about it all. Before the election when it was all looking close he said he couldn't see the Tories going in to coalition with the Lib Debs. That's exactly what happened of course, which is nothing to do with him, he was just a back bencher. So after the election he was at another event and I said that I didn't see what Nick Clegg was getting out of it. The MP said "he gets to be deputy PM!". Which is a bit like being made milk monitor. It was a disaster for Clegg and the Lib Dems.
How far can the warmism loons go before the average person sees through their bullshit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFSYFG7ygCw
These nutters want to reduce carbon dioxide levels on an already carbon dioxide starved planet, they want to get rid of animals, transport and travel. They want you to eat insects. And they want to replace efficient energy with inefficient non-alternatives that pollute even more.
These people are utterly crazy and yet the average bod in the street will just accept this is a thing. No evidence, no facts, no data - just crappy computer models and an endless propaganda drive.
Now they are busy destroying data and reports that easily disprove their bullshit. Just like Orwell's 1984 and the great communist tragedies of the past, unwanted history is simply being discarded or rewritten to suit the crackpot agenda.
And, as always, a small group of corporate interests are on standby to cash in.
It's so ridiculously transparent you have to wonder how anyone is fooled by it.
Für eure Sicherheit
Oh dear, here he is with the usual lengthy BS - on the bottle early tonight are we...?
Michael Collins
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56921562
Often forgotten about, but a big part of the Apollo 11 mission.
Definitely, RIP
Can you expand on these two points?
And, out of interest, what is your position on global warming, exactly?
Is it that it isn't happening? I mean, I'm mid 40s - although hurtling towards 50 with disconcerting speed. But there's a clear difference in the climate in this country since I was a kid. We used to get regular, deep snow. It's rare now. I remember when I'd go and see fireworks it was foot-numbingly cold. Now a light jacket will suffice. I'd suggest the fact that the climate has changed in the UK at least is pretty much undeniable.
Is it that you concede it's happening but you don't think it's caused by human action so there's no point in doing anything about it?
Or is it that you do think we are contributing to it but you don't think the counter-measures being suggested will help. Or you don't think it's going to cause big problems so it doesn't really matter?
Or none of the above in which case fill in your own answer.
I mean, it seems to me that it is happening. We are causing it, or certainly contributing. And it causing and will continue to cause problems.
So I'm generally on board with "we should probably do something". I'm less sure about what. And have to say when I've been to places like India I have thought "oh what's the bloody point?!". As Sean Lock said, doing a bit or recycling feels like turning up to the aftermath of an earthquake with a dustpan and brush.
But, like Covid, I do think there's a situation which demands a response.