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    I'm actually related to Eric Gill

    Think he's my great great uncle or something. Got cousins on that side who still have his name.

    Btw I think your sig should be "Für Ihre Sicherheit".

    Formal rather than informal.
    You used to be everything to me
    Now you're tired of fighting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Just a shame that everyone isn't on strike
    isn't that all a bit commie-lefty-socialist for you...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Maybe they just want what they had 5 minutes ago, what with inflation being allowed to "rip through" the honest half of the population. Or maybe they need more to pay their increased taxes. Or maybe the reduction in services they have already paid for has forced them to pay twice.
    None of that is unique to Tube Drivers. In the Public Sector we've had 1% rises for a decade, which is effectively a pay cut. Last 2 years we've got nothing at all because of the pandemic.
    And the pension has been repeatedly changed to make it less generous. So why don't we all go on strike? Well "we" did (I put the "we" in quotations because I personally didn't, I'm not in the union as they're utterly impotent).
    There were strikes and the effect of that was "Meh". No-one cares. What we do isn't important in the grand scheme of things.
    Tube drivers repeatedly use their fairly unique position - being able to bring the capital to a standstill - to hold the powers that be to ransom to get themselves far higher wages than they deserve.

    Just a shame that everyone isn't on strike but you'll never get that with so many people who are alright, Jack.
    That isn't why other people don't go on strike. Others don't go on strike because they don't do anything which anyone cares about enough that they have the leverage for it to be effective.
    Or they're in low paid jobs which aren't unionised, they're living month to month and can't afford to be unpaid for a period of time and they're easily replaceable.
    Or they're in jobs where they feel a duty of care towards others so they keep at it despite the poor pay and conditions and morale.

    Has anyone looked into the reason they are on strike or did a BBC expert proclaim greet as the root? Could even be they have all become used to staying at home, hiding from colds and flu and just fancy a few days off. Hard to say in clown world.
    I don't care what the reason is. It's entirely possible that on this occasion they do have a legitimate reason. But they've done it too often.
    There are far more worthy causes to support. I moan about my job and I have a point, I'm underpaid for my skills and I did some stuff last year which I don't believe anyone else in the organisation could have done, stuff which generated a shit-ton of money for us. And the thanks I got was an email saying thanks. When I asked about pay they laughed in my stupid face.
    So why don't I go elsewhere and get the big bucks? Well, I'm thinking about it, I have a bloody great mortgage and a family to support. BUT, the kids are young, I have a job which is not pressured and is flexible enough that I can see a lot of the family. I don't want a stressful job, I don't want to be doing 70 hour weeks. I am, frankly, pretty lazy. And I am actually paid well enough to support the family. So, on balance, for all my moaning I do appreciate that I'm pretty lucky in the grand scheme of things. I reckon Tube drivers should do the same. When it comes to complaints about pay or conditions there are far, far more worthy groups of workers than them, or me actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    but to actually defend the icon of kiddie molestation proudly displayed by the BBC, in modern times. That requires a new definition for depravity. The BBC acolytes really are unspeakable.
    Firstly, I've never heard of Eric Gill. My guess is most people haven't, although I'll admit I'm not really in to art.
    Secondly, this is a statue by him, not of him, isn't it?
    It's one thing to think that statues of "bad people" should be torn down. Although that's a tricky area, generally statues are put up of people who do "good" things, but people are complex, some of those people probably did some pretty bad things too. Something something Churchill something.
    But this isn't a statue of a "bad person", it a statue by one. Is that the new line?
    I mean, I reckon John Lennon was a bit of an arsehole but I'm not going to stop listening to The Beatles.
    There is a debate to be had here, which is what that article is about. So...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Firstly, I've never heard of Eric Gill. My guess is most people haven't, although I'll admit I'm not really in to art.
    Secondly, this is a statue by him, not of him, isn't it?
    It's one thing to think that statues of "bad people" should be torn down. Although that's a tricky area, generally statues are put up of people who do "good" things, but people are complex, some of those people probably did some pretty bad things too. Something something Churchill something.
    But this isn't a statue of a "bad person", it a statue by one. Is that the new line?
    I mean, I reckon John Lennon was a bit of an arsehole but I'm not going to stop listening to The Beatles.
    There is a debate to be had here, which is what that article is about. So...
    if it wasn't outside the BBC no-one would've bothered about it - it's just another right-wing loony attack on the BBC, nothing more or less

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    I'd like to pump and dump her

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59964648

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