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[Globalgunner]

I think it was less what was said and more how it was said

I’m of the opinion that a constitutional Monarchy survives by being minimalist. The less the sovereign is seen and heard of the better. In the aftermath of the death of a Queen who for anyone under 70 will be the only Monarch they’ve ever known. There is this emotional need for presence, but it will soon pass rather like the madness that infected Britain when Diana died.

The one area NQ and I agree is that our current King is too political, which is different from being outspoken. His father’s tendency for being outspoken was tolerated and in fact even admired because it was more an expression of frankness that defied the usual call for diplomacy and protocol.

He laid his cards on the table, because he lacks the fortitude to realise that he has unlike the rest of us no right to a public opinion, when your position is ordained by the absurd concept of divine right…it undermines the democratic foundations for an unelected individual to take a position because that position has the risk of unduly influencing the government that has been elected.
Like his great uncle it’s a sign of weakness that the country can Ill afford. A few months before this day, he took a position on the Rwanda resettlement scheme which if he does so as king has the potential to create an apocalyptic constitutional crisis.
In this day and age it is not enough that he not publicly speak his mind, but given the propensity for leaks he cannot privately do so either. And I seriously doubt he has the discipline to keep his thoughts in his own head

His speech last night whilst it fortunately didn’t betray any personal feeling (because if it did it would be that he’s immensely relieved his “mama” is dead) was full of sickly platitude of a kind that is not becoming of a sovereign of the UK. And he’s proved already that his continued presence will grow thin very quickly if not kept to a bare minimum.

I guess you never heard how the late Queen organised a coup in Australia against the elected prime minister Gough Whitlam in 1975
She picked up the phone to the governor general and had him removed. She could be political when needed, especially when it came to the affairs of other countries.

Whitlam was trying to chart a more independent course for Australia, away from the grip of US/UK. As ever the CIA was deep into the plot but it all started with her majesty`s phone call.

My biggest surprise is that the Aussies just took it like that. I was a wee one at the time so I cant say if there were mass protests.

I am hopeful that different times and personalities will mean that Charles III will use a more subtle touch

He could start by getting the 3 Degrees back together then the Spice girls.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I guess you never heard how the late Queen organised a coup in Australia against the elected prime minister Gough Whitlam in 1975
She picked up the phone to the governor general and had him removed. She could be political when needed, especially when it came to the affairs of other countries.

Whitlam was trying to chart a more independent course for Australia, away from the grip of US/UK. As ever the CIA was deep into the plot but it all started with her majesty`s phone call.

My biggest surprise is that the Aussies just took it like that. I was a wee one at the time so I cant say if there were mass protests.

I am hopeful that different times and personalities will mean that Charles III will use a more subtle touch

He could start by getting the 3 Degrees back together then the Spice girls.

Of course no such thing actually happened

The Governor General of Australia wanted to invoke royal decree to break the deadlock and subsequent constitutional crisis that had arisen where Whitlam and his government were no longer able to pass laws, because Malcolm Fraser the liberal leader who would replace Whitlam as prime minister was using the senate to block legislation (like us the Aussies have a bicameral legislature, unlike us both houses are elected)

There was correspondence released which had taken place between the Governor General and Martin Chatteris the Queen’s private secretary exploring whether it was in the Queen’s power to break the deadlock, but ultimately the decision to dismiss Whitlam was taken off the Governor General’s own back.

The letters released two years ago confirm this. And I know you need to completely exaggerate to make it sound sexy and conspiratorial. But a) it wasn’t and b) the function of a constitutional monarchy is in extreme circumstances to act in order to resolve political crises, and if a similar situation occurred here where a government was unable to function but the prime minister refused to resign…a monarch could be called upon to do something similar.

And if your response is there should have been a general election to decide this, there was a month later.

[Globalgunner]

I wont argue the toss as Im not that engaged in Aussie politics or history, but I doubt the governor general who is the Queens representative would just do as he deems fit.

It reeks of CIA nefaria just as the recent coup in Pakistan was. Buy up enough elected members to bring down a government you dont like. They do it all the time.

[mandela8]

The monarchy are fuckin scum. It's as simple as that. All this "she led a life of service blah blah...' fuck right off, you bootlicking cunts.

There's one single service those fuckin leeches could offer and it's to stand up and state that the institution is a fuckin sham and has absolutely no place in modern society. That's the single positive offering this vermin has...but they will never, ever do it because, ultimately, they believe that they are better than every single one of you pathetic fuckin serfs that enable them.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yet the irony is whilst the concept of hereditary superiors should be anathema to most of us, here you come along and prove that some people are naturally inferior

[mandela8]

Watched that Elvis biopic last night.

Fuckin wonderful. Very sad though.

Absolute GOAT. No contest.

[Mac76]

While i don't have a high opinion of the monarchy i'm not sure I want a President either given this county's habit of voting complete c***s into power

Either way I definitely think Charles' first act should be to abdicate in favour of William - we are now going to have a man who wishes he was a tampon as king, he and the King's Escort are also both of course well-known adulterers, which hardly sets high moral standards to the nation

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Bank holiday for the funeral and bank holiday for the coronation?

Bank holidays are a fucking ball ache for anyone who runs weekly payroll. Only fair though, two birthdays, two holidays.

[mandela8]

While i don't have a high opinion of the monarchy i'm not sure I want a President either given this county's habit of voting complete c***s into power

Either way I definitely think Charles' first act should be to abdicate in favour of William - we are now going to have a man who wishes he was a tampon as king, he and the King's Escort are also both of course well-known adulterers, which hardly sets high moral standards to the nation

Is there really much of a difference between a president and a PM? I'd depend entirely on the Constitution (which the so called UK doesn't actually have) or whatever other mechanism was in place to define power/authority.

[Letters]

Watched that Elvis biopic last night.

Fuckin wonderful. Very sad though.

Absolute GOAT. No contest.

Do stop being wrong about everything.
While hugely important and influential, and unquestionably a fantastic singer and performer, he is massively overrated. Wasn’t a great musician, didn’t write songs. Didn’t do anything musically that interesting or creative. Compare and contrast with The Beach Boys and The Beatles who actually pushed popular music on into an art form. The latter going from “Love Me Do” to “A Day In The Life” in under 5 years.