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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    His name was Robert Paulson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I approve of this. Too chattery drivers/tannoys are annoying.
    may i suggest you meant 'chatty'...?

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    The ones what talk too much

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    The warmongers and profiteers have their eye on the Ukraine. As you will recall, the US and UK overthrew the government of that nation and replaced it with Nazis (look it up). Actual fucking Nazis, no hyperbole required. The Ukraine holds one of Russia's principle ports and strategic military assets. Under no circumstances will Russia abandon Ukraine because it would eliminate their southern military presence. Whether you view that as significant or not is neither nor there, it's a red line for Russia and part of a survival equation nonetheless. The west knows this. Hence the push. The goal is war. If the west wasn't pushing then Russia could relax and let the anti-nazi sentiment in the Ukraine play out.

    So you'll be hearing stories about how oppressed the poor Nazis are. And you'll believe them.

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    Of course, its not Russia’s fault for invading Ukraine, its the wests


    Do you work for stop the war by any chance? They never manage to blame Putin either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The warmongers and profiteers have their eye on the Ukraine. As you will recall, the US and UK overthrew the government of that nation and replaced it with Nazis (look it up). Actual fucking Nazis, no hyperbole required. The Ukraine holds one of Russia's principle ports and strategic military assets. Under no circumstances will Russia abandon Ukraine because it would eliminate their southern military presence. Whether you view that as significant or not is neither nor there, it's a red line for Russia and part of a survival equation nonetheless. The west knows this. Hence the push. The goal is war. If the west wasn't pushing then Russia could relax and let the anti-nazi sentiment in the Ukraine play out.

    So you'll be hearing stories about how oppressed the poor Nazis are. And you'll believe them.

    Am I wrong?
    Latest Joke is the US/UK accussing Russia of plotting to install a puppet government in Ukraine. No irony there. The Russians shouldnt bother invading. They should just go the Venezuela route. Pick one nondescript. MP and name him Prime Minister and transfer all Ukraines assets to him. Invite him to parliament and all, for a garland ceremony as its too dangerous to inaugurate him in Kiev.

    The dangerous part is that the Russians are deadly serious about their own red lines this time. We are living in dangerous times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Of course, its not Russia’s fault for invading Ukraine, its the wests


    Do you work for stop the war by any chance? They never manage to blame Putin either
    Whose fault for invading, Iraq, Syria. Libya, Afghanistan. I guess the west had no choice but to invade those places. If they didnt Putin would have for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    Of course, its not Russia’s fault for invading Ukraine, its the wests


    Do you work for stop the war by any chance? They never manage to blame Putin either
    I suppose you know London and Washington are pushing Ukraine towards NATO. The same NATO originally designed to defend the west against Soviet aggression, the same NATO now pushing against the Russian border from all sides. An extended reconnaissance, I suppose. You look at a map, you see the reality. You listen to the "news" and reality spins 180 and the nation surrounded on all sides is the aggressor while the nations with boots on almost every spot on the planet are the peacemakers. Makes you want to roll your eyes.

    We're very fortunate Putin is not the mad man painted by the propagandists. If we'd tried shit like this back in the Soviet era the missiles would have been flying. In fact they almost did when the Soviets played our present day strategy in Cuba. Saner heads saved the day, the kinds that don't exist in Washington today.
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    The only person pushing Ukraine towards NATO is Putin.

    He quite literally annexed part of Ukraine which is quite likely to push a country away from you and towards an alliance who may try to protect you from Russia just taking part of your country.

    Putin has also put himself in a tricky position. He either has to secure huge concessions from the west in order to move his troops back or invade. Otherwise he will just look weak, not just to the west but also at home in Russia. So if he doesn’t get the concessions he claims he wants, it’ll be war and that’s not going to end well for all of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ollie the Optimist View Post
    The only person pushing Ukraine towards NATO is Putin.

    He quite literally annexed part of Ukraine which is quite likely to push a country away from you and towards an alliance who may try to protect you from Russia just taking part of your country.

    Putin has also put himself in a tricky position. He either has to secure huge concessions from the west in order to move his troops back or invade. Otherwise he will just look weak, not just to the west but also at home in Russia. So if he doesn’t get the concessions he claims he wants, it’ll be war and that’s not going to end well for all of us.
    Where did you read that? What happened BEFORE "he quite literally annexed part of Ukraine"? And WHEN did NATO start cosying up to the Ukrainians? Before or after Putin "quite literally annexed part of Ukraine"? Or is all of that destined for the memory hole? Cause and effect in the real world, random effects with no precursor from the propagandists. It is NATO jammed up against the Russian border, not the other way around. Maybe you are too young to remember the Iraq bullshit and how the propaganda played out before the bombs started falling. But if you can remember it's astonishing if you are fooled again. You must want to be.

    Anyone supporting a war against the Russians should be bullwhipped through the streets. It's like children gleefully playing with fireworks and then their face gets blown off. War with Russia must be beyond your imagination if you are in any way onboard with the warmongers and their latest message.
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