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Thread: Did Walcott dive for the red card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Walcott was fouled and couldn't get to it so he stopped running and dropped to his knees. It was a partial dive because he didn't need to drop to his knees. Unfortunately these days - without video technology - you have to make it obvious to the referee that you were fouled, and Walcott did.Well played Theo. N.b. This is the only correct response. Cheers.
    Indeed. While it is not my favourite kind of football, until FIFA/UEFA/FA do something about the diving and failure to try and stay up, players will continue to do this and you can either not do it and have a disadvantage over teams that do, or you just play the game according to the de facto rules in place at the moment.

    If the powers stop this shit about not being able to do things afterwards if the ref has already dealt with the situation and apply retrospective yellows, reds and suspensions (not fines which are a waste of time) then this and other offences will continue. (This is if Theo was considered to have dived when not being fouled). They do not seem able to understand that correcting decisions in the cold light after a match when video from many angles can be studied - something the ref cannot do at the time - does NOT undermine the refs authority. Refs will still have to continue to do their best with what they perceive at the time. An odd mistake is to be expected and is nothing to be ashamed of. Pretending mistakes have not happened, however, is something they should be ashamed of.

    So while Theo might have been able to stay up, he was correctly playing the game according to the current interpretation/application of the rules. Wheater knows full well that if he pulls back a player in that circumstance, the player is likely to go down - the ref might see it anyway - and he is going to get sent off. The fact is, Theo was fouled by his shirt being grabbed, so whether he went down or not, Wheater committed a dismissable offence. End of story.

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    No

    Although i say this based on reputation alone and not cos ive seen it

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    he did not. he lost his balance when Wheater pulled him by his arm.
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    ive seen and there is a blatent tug. clear foul

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    One thing we know for sure, the kid's a pansy. Hopefully Oxo has a pair of balls and can do a better job for us.
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    when you play the game at that speed, not sunday league, the slightest touch an unbalance you, let alone someone pulling you back...not a chance was it a dive

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr View Post
    when you play the game at that speed, not sunday league, the slightest touch an unbalance you, let alone someone pulling you back...not a chance was it a dive
    Course it was. It was a foul too, but the way he collapsed was pretty pathetic, especially considering the goal was clear in front of him. He didn't do himself any favours if he wants to play in the centre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    One thing we know for sure, the kid's a pansy. Hopefully Oxo has a pair of balls and can do a better job for us.
    he was pulled back so what can you do? blatent foul and straight red

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    he was pulled back so what can you do? blatent foul and straight red
    Already told you, play Oxo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Already told you, play Oxo.
    ox would have gone down too. he was pulled back. foul. you can have a go at walcott for many other things like fucking up the one on one which was shocking but not this red card thing

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