Should Wenger be sacked now?

[notwist]

They won't get rid of Wenger because the penny pinching Old Etonian fucks who run the club love him for 14 years of CL football on a shoestring. TBF Wenger has over-achieved fr yrs and now we're probably where we deserved to be all along. An unambitious middle of the table team. But if they don't watch out this will turn ugly and it will be a relegation scarp, if it isn't already. Should Wenger go? No, he should have gone a year ago.

[Power n Glory]

The Board and Wenger are separate issues.

[Marc Overmars]

what diffrence would it really make now tbh, besides he made this mess let him fix it tbh. its not how we start is how we finish imo

But we are finished.

We started at Newcastle in the 4-4.

We finished at United with the 8-2.

Now we're down to the dregs.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Board and Wenger are separate issues.

Not sure why anyone would say or even think that. Wenger is the guy executing the board's plan, bring youngsters in, develop them and make profits by selling. This has affected everything.

[Power n Glory]

He's incapable of sorting this out.

[Fats]

He's incapable of sorting this out.

Yup spot on

What pisses me off is the blaming of the board. They are in no way accountable for poor coaching. Oh yes they are they employ the coaches FFS!!!!!!

Everything at the club has to change

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

it's a separate issue because it's the defensive frailty and the tactical naivety that's too blame, not the youth policy

[Niall_Quinn]

it's a separate issue because it's the defensive frailty and the tactical naivety that's too blame, not the youth policy

OR the defensive frailty and tactical naivety are simply secondary to what the board and Wenger really view as important, running the business side of the club. WHY won't they bring in anyone to help? Probably because anyone already here is part of the program whereas people like Bergkamp, Keown, Bould would place achievement on the pitch above all else. from a football perspective we certainly need people like this to come in and help. From the board's and Wenger's perspective, maybe they don't need that sort of interference. As for the tactical naivety, with players like Walcott on the pitch how do you know the manager's tactics are even being applied? You watch these players being so stupid sometimes it takes the breath away. i think Wenger should go but I think he should take the garbage that has piled up with, that includes the board and 75% of the players. With Wenger gone we still have this board, still have their dogshit agenda, still have a team filled with crap. So then what/ Expect somebody like Moyes to turn us into champions by will alone? That's a bit unrealistic. He's cash starved at Everton, what does he win? Why would any manager be different?

[Power n Glory]

Not sure why anyone would say or even think that. Wenger is the guy executing the board's plan, bring youngsters in, develop them and make profits by selling. This has affected everything.

The board have nothing to do with our coaching methods or preparation. They don't tell him which players to sign and he's the fool that saw more value in a player like Kosienly over someone like Mertsesaker. We could have signed Merts ages ago but we signed two totally inept CB's instead and Merts was a panic buy because Verms was out injured. Those are his decisions.

He decides to spend £15m on Oxo but won't play him. He decided to continue playing with one man up a striker when we're a goal down. We have Park on the bench and he doesn't come on. Plenty of free transfer players we've passed up on but Wenger goes for Chamakh of all people. Why is Gibbs starting over Santos?

These are his decisions. If we have a strict budget, cool, but nobody told him to shop in Cash Converters and Primark. He's gone for quantity over quality.

[Power n Glory]

OR the defensive frailty and tactical naivety are simply secondary to what the board and Wenger really view as important, running the business side of the club. WHY won't they bring in anyone to help? Probably because anyone already here is part of the program whereas people like Bergkamp, Keown, Bould would place achievement on the pitch above all else. from a football perspective we certainly need people like this to come in and help. From the board's and Wenger's perspective, maybe they don't need that sort of interference. As for the tactical naivety, with players like Walcott on the pitch how do you know the manager's tactics are even being applied? You watch these players being so stupid sometimes it takes the breath away. i think Wenger should go but I think he should take the garbage that has piled up with, that includes the board and 75% of the players. With Wenger gone we still have this board, still have their dogshit agenda, still have a team filled with crap. So then what/ Expect somebody like Moyes to turn us into champions by will alone? That's a bit unrealistic. He's cash starved at Everton, what does he win? Why would any manager be different?

Did you see Wenger's reaction to being asked about a defensive coach? He took it as an insult. How are you going to blame the board for that? Wenger has ultimate control over his coaching staff. He didn't have to keep Pat Rice on and he had know problem brining in one of his former players as a scout. Is it Grimandi or Remi Garde?

After a match day loss where we're hampered by the same sort of mistakes that doesn't plague teams like Stoke or Tottenham who have less money than us, I don't see how the Board are always the first ones to get the blame. Newcastle have had problems behind the scenes but hasn't stopped Pardrew organising his team so they're in a good position from the first few weeks of the league. We still haven't recovered from that 4-4 draw and Carling Cup final. That's down to man management.