Match Reaction v Aston Villa

[Cripps_orig]

Absolute fucking shite performance but we won so cant ask for more than that.

Benayoun :bow:

Wengers subs :bow:

[LDG]

Experience :bow:

Fucking awful game.

Good result.

Christmas points :woohoo:

[RomfordPele]

Happy with the points, but if tightwad doesn't get his wallet out in January we can forget about 4th place.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Teams before would bave crumbled after losing. this team fights till the end, dont give up and if they score then they go fuck it, we'll score another one

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Happy for the win. Not sure that'll be grinding one out though, fluking it out.

Anyway though. Benayoun. :bow:

Me. :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

We were brutal, but we won!

And I'm up 35 big ones!

[milla]

Experience :bow:

Benayoun :bow:

Must use those experience midfielders as a starter. Ramsey has poor for weeks, Frimpong is not ready yet.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Stuff of Champions tbh, well in our case 4th placer's.

[Boss]

Must get Arshavin to fuck off ASAP, Benayoun and Chamberlain our two attacking subs from now on.

Desperately need Wilshere back for that extra quality in midfield as no one we have (apart from Song perhaps) can grab the game and make it their own at the moment. Wasteful play today.

Need to buy in January or we're fucked, good win though.

[Cripps_orig]

Rosicky looked good when he came on

Ramsey has to be dropped. Arteta ineffective as usual and Gervinhos worst game for us. At least hes usually trying (albeit failing) to take people on in other games but today he was just piss poor.

No one really stood out. We were shite but we won. Stuff of champions

Bring on Wolves*


*if it goes ahead. If not then bring on RPQ

[Globalgunner]

The usual suspects were crap as usual, Theo, Gervinho add to that Ramsey playing like Stevie Wonder (no not the harmonica). Hope Vermaelen is Ok.
Good result, Anything that makes that awful Scotsmans life more miserable is good by me. Coq did ok but must hate that position. Frimpong is not ready or not good enough. gave the ball away almost every time. more Rosicky or better still Benny.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Rosicky looked good when he came on




He's one sexy bastard.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Teams before would bave crumbled after losing. this team fights till the end, dont give up and if they score then they go fuck it, we'll score another one

Stuff of Champions tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Was tv 5 hurt bad or just a knock

[Alpha]

3 points but not really happy with our performance . We made Villa look like a great team . Frimpong showed he is not ready yet . Coquelin could have been better in the middle . Shame Ox did not have a cameo . But the two subs ( Benayoun and Rosicky ) did ok and won the game . Walcott need a rest to sort himself out . he looks too predictable and can hardly beat his man . Right back still an nightmare . A decent team could have given us more trouble . But a win is a win . Well down boys .

[GP]

3 points but not really happy with our performance . We made Villa look like a great team

We played poorly and still beat a great team?

We must be motherfucking awesome!

[LDG]

Given that we have 5 full backs out, Wilshire missing and the only players capable of hauling us back being shattered, I'm pretty pleased.

Da Arsaaan, gotta spend innit.

[Syn]

An away win at Villa is normally a great result. So I'm happy. But we were absolutely awful and just didn't get going at all...which kinda makes the result feel better. Like finding a tenner under the sofa.

Song was badly missed. Pretty much everyone played poorly. Rosicky added some much needed urgency but even then we were struggling.

Typically, Benayoun is at the right place at the right time. A must keep.

[Master Splinter]

The worst game I've seen this season. Truly terrible.

Only Koscielny and Szczesny were decent.

Ramsey should be replaced by Rosicky or Benayoun.

Frimpong and Coquelin were poor, but Coquelin was in an unfamiliar position so can be excused.

It was genuinely sad to see Arshavin come on and ramble around like a 90 year old tramp with no idea where he is. Just sell him now. It's beyond pathetic.

[Joker]

Pathetic performance but an important result. However, if we don't improve there's no way we'll get 4th spot. I rate Ramsey but he's been shocking recently. Arteta lacks any creativity whatsoever, and without Song our midfield looked devoid of any spark or ingenuity whatsoever. Frimpong is nowhere near ready at the moment, as his technical level is too low. Gervinho is woefully out of form or simply a poor player, and needs dropping. Walcott doesn't contribute enough in general play, but at least he gets a lot of assists.

We need to buy in January, and desperately.

[dazthegooner]

We were poor but a wins a win seen us lose quite a few of these games so not complaining :)

[GP]

It was genuinely sad to see Arshavin come on and ramble around like a 90 year old tramp with no idea where he is. Just sell him now. It's beyond pathetic.

I'm sure we can mug off PSG or those russian pricks for a few million. Just get rid.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I'm sure we can mug off PSG or those russian pricks for a few million. Just get rid.

This. He don't care for the club, his heart is not in it, he'd love to be back in russia earning more money.

[LDG]

I'm sure we can mug off PSG or those russian pricks for a few million. Just get rid.

Man City. 20 Million.

They always take our cast offs for shitloads of money.

[server too busy!]

Arshavin shouldn't be involved anymore. I do wonder if Wenger is getting him to play in the hope that it increases his profile and price. Ramsey needs to be dropped as well, too slow and lacks cutting edge.

Good result though, but other people need to start scoring goals.

[GP]

Man City. 20 Million.

They always take our cast offs for shitloads of money.

Man City :haha:


It's funny cos I had relations with all their mothers.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Man City. 20 Million.

They always take our cast offs for shitloads of money.

They can throw in bridge and Johnson as well.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They can throw in bridge and Johnson as well.

To the river.

[GP]

They can throw in bridge and Johnson as well.

I hope you meant to say throw him off a bridge...

[Xhaka Can’t]

We need to buy in January, and desperately.

I'd prefer it if we bought well.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Man City :haha:


It's funny cos I had relations with all their mothers.

What was Tevez's like?

[Joker]

I'd prefer it if we bought well.

Yeah that as well.

[LDG]

I'd prefer it if we bought well.

Who's he?

[GP]

What was Tevez's like?

Grateful.

[Fats]

Ha ha ha Villa cunts

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Also, Hutton is down there with Paul Robinson (the Bolton edition) as the scurge of the Prem.

[Tipsychubbs]

Experience :bow:

Benayoun :bow:

Must use those experience midfielders as a starter. Ramsey has poor for weeks,

I'm baffled at how overnight Ramsey has become a first team starter. He has potential but he is not ready yet to start games week in week out, plus he's not an attacking midfielder, he's a deeper box to box cmf.

Rosicky/Benayoun should be starting as the most advanced midfielder, experience should win out on this particular issue.

[Kaiser]

Think Arteta kept the ball well. He clearly didn't want to try risky passes ahead to players like Frimpong, who was positionally woeful and unable to trap passes under any modicum of pressure. You could see the ambition in his passing was raised when Rosicky and Benayoun came on - he trusts those players to have basic technique. He was easily the best of the midfield three today. He played pragmatically, but his sidewards and backwards passes were important to relieve pressure. It's much different to when Denilson used to do it (because Arteta's technique is superior and his work ethic is fantastic).

Coquelin did well in the second half, didn't dive in as much but was poor positionally and made forward runs when they weren't necessary, leaving us short at the back. Koscielny and Szczesny were brilliant. Thought that in the tough opening period Mertesacker was excellent, anticipating well. Typically, their goal will be classed as his error, when it was a combination of a poor Vermaelen header along with his indecision.

Song's return (and rest) vs. Wolves is a welcome one and thankfully we didn't drop points in his absence. A vital part of the team. As many have said Gervinho wasn't involved as much today, neither was Theo (but less so), as Frimpong in the middle dropped the tempo and opportunity to play the quick, early pass into those two.

[Letters]

Just seen the score.

My reaction is: :patrice:

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger interview on SSN soon

[Kano]

when song goes to acon arteta should be pushed forward, coq/frimpong the deeper guy.

well done again today, keeps us in touch.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They cut Wenger off. :unsure:

[Unai Tea]

when song goes to acon arteta should be pushed forward, coq/frimpong the deeper guy.

well done again today, keeps us in touch.

Song isn't going to ACON thankfully.

[Niall_Quinn]

Song isn't going to ACON thankfully.

But Chamakh is, so it's win-win.

[Unai Tea]

But Chamakh is, so it's win-win.

Well, Chamakh leaving for a goodly number of weeks improves everybody, not just Song.

[Kano]

Song isn't going to ACON thankfully.
oh brilliant news, it would've been a real worry if he was.

[Syn]

Thomas Vermaelen: Great win today! I wasn t easy. Thanks to @YossiBenayoun15!! U saved me today mate!

Yossarian: Important win I'm so happy finally to score in the league after long time..this goal is for thomas vermaelen!!


I think I prefer pingpong's tweets.

[Cripps_orig]

on the result…
Villa were dangerous but first I must say two things. We had two difficult away games where we had to give absolutely everything just over Christmas, physically. In the first half we controlled the game quite well and in the second half when they came back to 1-1 we had quite a difficult period. Then we stabilised the game and in the last 15 minutes you could feel we were on top again.

I can only congratulate Villa - they played well, gave everything and again it was a very intense game. In the end we got three very late points that are vital for us. We were a bit unlucky on Sunday and today maybe a bit lucky. Overall it was important to re-start with a win tonight. But if Villa continue to play like that then they will go up in the table, they had an outstanding game.

on the team spirit…
Our spirit is exceptional and that's why we came from a bad start to the season to such a strong run. You could see that some legs were a bit jaded from Sunday, and some minds in the speed of the decision making. But we still kept going and there is an exceptional attitude and spirit in the side.

Tonight, very unusually for us we scored from two set-pieces, that is basically historical!

on Robin van Persie…
He keeps going. Of course you always have that question when he plays against Manchester City and then again with that intensity, do I rest him? At the moment he feels alright so I just take a gamble. Now we have a little breather to prepare for our home game and let's hope we can win then.

We have to give credit to Villa tonight, we know they always give us a good reception here. They always make it very difficult for us.

on approaching Alan Shearer's record…
Now I will start to rest him!

on his booking...
My press officer told me it was a penalty. He is very objective, believe me! From outside I must say it didn't look like a penalty but maybe he has been touched, I don't know. It didn't look like a penalty to me. I don't know [if he was disappointed], I haven't spoken to him about it.

on Yossi Benayoun…
We have him on loan until the end of the season so we do not need to decide [on a permanent transfer] tonight.

on Kieran Gibbs' injury…
Gibbs sees a specialist tomorrow, he had a setback. We will know more about it tomorrow morning.

on going into the market…
Frankly I don't know yet, it depends on what happens to Gibbs. Vermaelen does quite well at left back, it is not the position where he feels happiest but he does it with a good spirit. On the right side tonight I played a midfielder [Francis Coquelin], who I feel has done quite well.


Get a full back ffs

[dazthegooner]

If he does get a full back it will only be on loan but I think he really should get an experierenced left back in full time as Gibbs will never play a full 90 minutes never mind a full season.

[Marc Overmars]

Not seen the game yet but I heard we weren't at our best, so I'm delighted we managed to grab a late win, we don't do it often enough.

Come on you Gunners!!

[LDG]

A loan at full back will be fine.Priority is still a striker.

[Özim]

Good win at Villa even if we didn't play well, RVP should never have been booked after that lovely bit of skill.

Mertersacker with a horrible error for the goal, you just expect them from him though.

Onwards and upwards.

[Cripps_orig]

Good win at Villa even if we didn't play well, RVP should never have been booked after that lovely bit of skill.

Mertersacker with a horrible error for the goal, you just expect them from him though.

Onwards and upwards.

Um it was Vermaelen

Mertesacker could do f all. Had a great game though

[Özim]

Um it was Vermaelen

Mertesacker could do f all. Had a great game though
MOTD said it was Mertersacker.

[GunnerFan4Life]

Theres a stat that Arteta as set up more chances than Mata and Silva this season, and in the last couple of games, I've seen stats that he's passed the most in the attacking third or in a match out of everyone who played. I think he's grown into the position, he's no ball carrier the way Silva and Fabregas are, but he knows what hes doing. Think we still need a CAM playmaker.

[Cripps_orig]

MOTD said it was Mertersacker.I watched the game. It was Vermaelen shite ass weak header to Mertesacker that was cut off by Albrigton. No defender would have got to that pass before Albrighton

[Ollie the Optimist]

just seen the RVP "dive" what a load of total crap. is there anyway you can appeal a yellow card as that one was a fucking joke. how the fuck was that a dive?

[Özim]

I watched the game. It was Vermaelen shite ass weak header to Mertesacker that was cut off by Albrigton. No defender would have got to that pass before Albrighton
From the BBC:


Villa were gifted a deserved route back in shortly after the break as Vermaelen sold Per Mertesacker short with a simple pass.

As Mertesacker hesitated, Albrighton poked the ball around the Germany international, then slotted past Szczesny for the landmark strike.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16173216.stm

Although Vermaelen did sell him short Mertersacker should maybe have done better, maybe a better defender would have. Vermaelen has been great recently though as well definitely our best defender this season.

Mertersacker is one of those players you know has an error in him, he doesn't seem the solid dependable defender, he is pretty slow and doesn't exactly think ahead of the game like Adams did for example.

[Ollie the Optimist]

From the BBC:



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16173216.stm

Although Vermaelen did sell him short Mertersacker should maybe have done better, maybe a better defender would have. Vermaelen has been great recently though as well definitely our best defender this season.

have you seen the goal yourself? everyone in the world can see that if verm hadnt of made a shit header, merts would have been fine. but once again you are moaning because you dont like him. it was verms error, not his

[Kano]

posted by syntos claus earlier:

Thomas Vermaelen: Great win today! I wasn t easy. Thanks to @YossiBenayoun15!! U saved me today mate!

Yossarian: Important win I'm so happy finally to score in the league after long time..this goal is for thomas vermaelen!!

[Özim]

have you seen the goal yourself? everyone in the world can see that if verm hadnt of made a shit header, merts would have been fine. but once again you are moaning because you dont like him. it was verms error, not his
MOTD and the BBC site disagree somewhat, yes I saw the goal on MOTD and watched in horror as the Villa guy steamed past the German snail and scored.

Vermaelen's pass was bad, the snail should have done better though and a better defender would have.

You are right though, I do think Mertersacker is average and I agree with Dixon when he says this guy isn't the answer.

[Ollie the Optimist]

MOTD and the BBC site disagree somewhat, yes I saw the goal on MOTD and watched in horror as the Villa guy steamed past the German snail and scored.

Vermaelen's pass was bad, the snail should have done better though and a better defender would have.

jesus. you and ach are the same. wont accept that kos and merts are good cos you dont like them so any chance you get even when everyone else agrees it wasnt his fault you will still moan. what could he do? we know he is not hte quickest. verms header was shit, if he made a good one, it owuld have been fine. 7 games, 4 goals conceded tells me the defence is fine so no point in moaning

[Cripps_orig]

Other than fouling Albrighton and getting sent off, cant see what else Mertesacker would have done.

Or any other defender.

Fact is, wasnt his fault. All down to Vermaelen. Mertesackers had a couple of shaky moments but overall hes done great and long may it continue.

[Özim]

jesus. you and ach are the same. wont accept that kos and merts are good cos you dont like them so any chance you get even when everyone else agrees it wasnt his fault you will still moan. what could he do? we know he is not hte quickest. verms header was shit, if he made a good one, it owuld have been fine. 7 games, 4 goals conceded tells me the defence is fine so no point in moaning
You say that but in the last 2 games defensive errors have cost us goals.

[Cripps_orig]

You say that but in the last 2 games defensive errors have cost us goals.Kos and Verm

F all to do with Mertesacker in either

In short, Mert :bow:

[Xhaka Can’t]

From the BBC:



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16173216.stm

Although Vermaelen did sell him short Mertersacker should maybe have done better, maybe a better defender would have. Vermaelen has been great recently though as well definitely our best defender this season.

Mertersacker is one of those players you know has an error in him, he doesn't seem the solid dependable defender, he is pretty slow and doesn't exactly think ahead of the game like Adams did for example.

I love Vermaelen about as much as a man can love another man, but the goal conceded was down to him.

[hobson's choice]

Didn't even know there was a game today, until I clicked on here during my break. So I see we won:good:.

How was the game, who stood out?

[Cripps_orig]

They were all pretty shit. No one really stood out. If you just look at stats then RVP with a goal and an assist is the stand out performer

[Thierrymon]

He's one sexy bastard.

He looks like a cross between the Haribo kid and harry potter.

[Marc Overmars]

What a shit decision to book RVP, even in real time it looked like a penalty!

[LDG]

Although Vermaelen did sell him short Mertersacker should maybe have done better, maybe a better defender would have. Vermaelen has been great recently though as well definitely our best defender this season.



By your own admission, you haven't watched a lot of our games this season, so how you can pontificate that Verms has been our best defender is beyond belief.

Koscielny has been our stand out defender this year, assisted by some good performances (and some bad ones) from Verms and Merts. Verms has cost us two goals in the last three conceeded, one own goal, and a bad pass last night. Merts has had some wobblys, but has made us more assured from set-pieces. Kos has read the game better than any other, and has bailed us out of shit loads of trouble.

Problem is, if you only watch MOTD, you're only gonna see the goals, and not all the good stuff he does.

They've all fucked up in some way shape or form, but defenders are usually at fault for goals conceded. In any match, in most goals conceeded.

Point of fact is, we're not shipping many since our "rejuvination". And that is down to better defending all round. Which I'm sure we're all pleased with.

[server too busy!]

Reading that Zenit are willing to give us back the money we paid for Arshavin, snatch their hands off!

I can't wait for Wilshere to come back, Ramsey just isn't cutting it.

As others have said and even Verm himself, it was his fault for the goal. He also played back a couple awkward back passes to Szjcsdbnkfn.

I still think we look more comfortable with Kos on the right and Miguel on the left. Kos was doing fine on the right for a few games before, don't understand why change it.

[Marc Overmars]

Even if Zenit are willing to pay half of what we paid them, there's no doubt we should just cut our losses and flog him.

He is better than Theo and Gervinho on his day, but doesn't even have a quarter of their application.

[GP]

we should all chip in and get him a nice concrete overcoat for xmas haha lol jk

[Kaiser]

Btw, Per was already on a yellow he took for the team after Frimpong ballsed up a two yard pass. If he went diving in there vs. Albrighton, he'd be off and the result would've been different.

[LDG]

Btw, Per was already on a yellow he took for the team after Frimpong ballsed up a two yard pass. If he went diving in there vs. Albrighton, he'd be off and the result would've been different.

Good point. Well made.

Nice to have you back btw KK.

No homo.

[Kaiser]

:tiphat:

[Flavs]

We won again!!


Yawn

[Japan Shaking All Over]

had to set my alarm clock for 4:30am to watch that game! yes, we didn't play well but we got a result in the kind of game (1 nil up, pegged back, under pressure) that would have seen us cave in in times gone by.

What I think is important is the boys showed some bottle and waited fro their chance, those that are saying that we can kiss 4th goodbye have a point because we do need to play better but we are not going to blow teams away every game. Gerv who I rate had a mare and deserved to be taken off, players get tired and we need to have the kind of squad that allows us to replace players without batting an eyelid, yesterday Rosicky and Beni played well but Arshavin's days are numbered, he played like he knows something we don't (January departure??)

However as much as I agree with those saying we need to play better, I don't think we are shit and I would say that 25 points out of 30 is not exactly bad form.......we have a run of games coming up that can not only allow us to get in the top 4 but cement a position at the top of the league.

Far from being nervous, I am very optimistic!

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Week on week it seems we keep saying the same thing, 'experience in our side is turning what would last season have been a draw/loss into a win'.

It's no co-incidence that we're actually winning these types of games now rather than falling apart like an embaressing pack of wolves. This is why we've said all along we needed experience and youth mixed together; there's some things youth do no understand about the game; certain positioning, certain ways of playing a pass, maturity about playing... all of these are accrued through experience.

Our squad is stronger than it has been over the past few years and there's an element of competition for places (Arshavin can't even get more than 15 minutes when last year he would start!).. it certainly helps in games; instead of Denilson and Bendtner coming on in the 80th minute to try and win a game, we have Benayoun coming on. Players who actually know how to make a difference. Had this been last year we would have seen Bendtner come on down the wing, lose the ball 100 times and attempt pathetic crosses that go straight into row Z.

Would Denilson have got on the end of that corner like Yossi did last night? Or even Clichy? Not a chance. These aren't players who stand up and are counted for during times of pressure.. they buckle. But experienced players like Mertesacker, Santos, Yossi etc don't buckle. It's no co-incidence we've bought decent experienced players and we are getting you exactly what we want... a WIN instead of draws/losses.

I just hope he strengthens in the january window and lets a few players like Arshavin go. If he doesn't this squad will deplete over the next few months, they're already knackered by all the hard work they've had to put in to save the season.

[Power n Glory]

Still a bit too early for this talk. We had tight games last season where we got a late winner or goal and I think Wenger had the says to back it up as well. A couple o seasons ago, Bendy was good at tlresfuing points for us as well.

But we haven't passed December yet and it's early days. I'm little worried about the team because games are getting tougher and tougher our performances are starting to dip. That has always been the trend to our season. It's never a sudden fall from grace. When we're playing well we don't just suddenly crash and burn. It's a slow process wheals starts with sluggish games and the team looking less sharp. It's been a couple of games now and we've looked sluggish. The creativity has dried up and I don't want to get to situation where we dob't know where our next goal will come from. We've depended on RVP for too long and nobody else has stepped up their goal game.

Wenger will have to rotate the team a little. Bring in Rosicky and give the Ox and Benni a few games. Grinding out results is good, but we need a few playere to hit form.

[Letters]

I'm concerned about our over-reliance on RvP. We're an injury to him away from mid-table which, given his injury record, is a little alarming.
In past seasons we've often crumbled under pressure, there are signs that we've getting better in that regard - quite a few times now we've either gone behind or been pegged back and gone on to win games. Long way to go but we're looking like we'll battle all the way for a top 4 spot and that's all you can ask.

[Grebbo]

We are a very ordinary team without RVP and Chesney. Nobody else stands out as quality and that is a worry when you're trying to overtake Chelsea (who'll spend £50m next month) and Spurs....yes, Spurs. I just hope they bottle it as usual.

[Özim]

We are a very ordinary team without RVP and Chesney. Nobody else stands out as quality and that is a worry when you're trying to overtake Chelsea (who'll spend £50m next month) and Spurs....yes, Spurs. I just hope they bottle it as usual.
Pretty much agree, those are our two top quality players the rest are OK but nothing to harp on about.

The fact people go on about cr*p like Koscielny says a lot about the quality we possess at the moment IMO.

We've sold all our other top class players, if either of the above two get injured we're in serious trouble.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Is anyone here seriously suggesting Vermaelen doesn't stand out?

Or are some so myopic they can't see beyond their own preconceived perception of our utter shiteness?

And Koscielny is in no way 'crap'. If you think he is, you have not been watching.

[Özim]

Is anyone here seriously suggesting Vermaelen doesn't stand out?

Or are some so myopic they can't see beyond their own preconceived perception of our utter shiteness?

And Koscielny is in no way 'crap'. If you think he is, you have not been watching.
According to some Koscielny has been our best defender....I agree with you though Vermaelen is pretty good so he's another player who's important...we've been a lot better since he's been fit.

Koscielny is average at best though IMO, a player made to look good by players like Vermaelen, just look how awful he is when Vermaelen isn't around...also cost us a goal against Man City.

[Xhaka Can’t]

According to some Koscielny has been our best defender....I agree with you though Vermaelen is pretty good so he's another player who's important...we've been a lot better since he's been fit.

Koscielny is average at best though IMO, a player made to look good by players like Vermaelen.

Koscielny has done a damed good job making himself look good by his, erm...goodness.

[Özim]

Koscielny has done a damed good job making himself look good by his, erm...goodness.
We've had a good run coinciding with the return of Vermaelen and form of RVP (and brilliance of Chesney), but Koscielny is nothing special...he's an accident waiting to happen as we've seen many times before and will no doubt see again sometime.

[Xhaka Can’t]

We've had a good run coinciding with the return of Vermaelen and form of RVP (and brilliance of Chesney), but Koscielny is nothing special...he's an accident waiting to happen as we've seen many times before and will no doubt see again sometime.

I can't wait to hear you declare yourself right if six games or so from now, he slips and loses footing.

[Marc Overmars]

Koscielny was hit and miss last season but we've certainly seen more hits this year.

[Özim]

I can't wait to hear you declare yourself right if six games or so from now, he slips and loses footing.
Glad you're ready for it, always better to be prepared when you have walking disasters playing.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Glad you're ready for it, always better to be prepared when you have walking disasters playing.

You clearly speak the truth when you say you don't watch much, because your ignorance is crystal clear.

[GP]

Koscielny has done a damed good job making himself look good by his, erm...goodness.

:gp:

Kos has been superb.

[Syn]

Nothing much to debate here. Kos has been, without doubt, nothing short of excellent this season. I don't know whether he can keep it up. Arshavin looked fantastic but then rapidly declined. But kos is performing so consistently that it's getting to the point where it's not just 'good form', but actually suggests he is a top defender. He'll have a game where he fucks up. Vidic does. Vermaelen did yesterday. Szczesny will have a day where needless sidestepping the attacker will backfire. But it won't make him a bad keeper because on average he has been a 8/10 keeper. At the moment, Kos is a 9/10 defender.

[Power n Glory]

Kozza has been good all season. We've looked solid at the back since Merts arrived. I don't think the defence is a problem this year. I'm more concerned about the middle and our attacking options.

I didn't get a chance to watch the game but it's worrying to hear that we struggled to pass the ball around. I heard Frimpong was terrible with his ball distribution and it shows how vital Song is but it also shows how ineffective Ramsey and Arteta can be. From what I hear, the passing improved once Rosicky came on. If fit, he should be starting ahead of Ramsey and maybe Benni should be getting more games as well.

Also, Gervinho hasn't turned into the goalscorer we all hoped he could be. You could tell from his Lille clips that he was a scruffy finisher. Also, his final ball isn't that good and suffer sometimes because of it. But, he has been effective.

We need someone to step their game up in the next half of the season. Walcott is still our second higest goalscorer and he's only on 4 goals. Now that we have no real wingbacks, Gervinho and Walcott we'll struggle a little and the central playere will have to do more to support and link up with them. Was reading on Zonal Marking the other day and it spoke on how Theo had a quite game because RVP was drifting towards Gervinho's side when playing against City because he was getting marked by Toure forced down that side. Ramsey and co should be the link between the wings and RVP so we can quickly switch play from flank to flank but that isn't happening.

[Master Splinter]

After RVP, Koscielny has been our best player. Then Szczesny and Song probably. In fact, they've been equally as influential as it's a team game, not a RVP one as most idiots will try to convey.

I've pointed it out a few times (and maybe others have too) but Vermaelen has been quite shaky in a few games. His reckless runs forward can often leave us stupidly exposed too. Not that I'll be calling him rubbish now though, because this kind of stuff is outweighed by him being mostly excellent throughout his Arsenal career.

It would help if people actually watched games, rather than use their pre-conceived judgements to define a player.

And if you can't watch full games, that's fine. Just don't use Match Of The Day or Sky highlights for a full assessment of a game. And most importantly, don't make things up.

[Özim]

You clearly speak the truth when you say you don't watch much, because your ignorance is crystal clear.
You don't really need to watch avidly to know what's going to happen with Wenger in charge, basically the same thing that happens every year.

[Xhaka Can’t]

You don't really need to watch avidly to know what's going to happen with Wenger in charge, basically the same thing that happens every year.

Your statement makes no sense as it has nothing to do with how Koscielny has been playing this season.

[fakeyank]

Kos has been brilliant this season. Our back four looks better 'so far'. I just hope we can carry it on.

[Özim]

Your statement makes no sense as it has nothing to do with how Koscielny has been playing this season.
He's a player in his manager's image, he plays OK for a while then has a period when he can't do anything right.

Incidentally I watched the Man City game and low and behold he was partially at fault for the goal.

[Xhaka Can’t]

He's a player in his manager's image, he plays OK for a while then has a period when he can't do anything right.

You don't watch and you don't know what you are talking about.

[Özim]

You don't watch and you don't know what you are talking about.
We'll see.

[Power n Glory]

You don't really need to watch avidly to know what's going to happen with Wenger in charge, basically the same thing that happens every year.

You do if you think Kozza has been rubbish all season. That is far from the truth and based on last season. The shape and style of play you see now is totally different from what we are used to seeing.

[Kano]

He's a player in his manager's image, he plays OK for a while then has a period when he can't do anything right.

Incidentally I watched the Man City game and low and behold he was partially at fault for the goal.

you realise that the defence was in the middle of readjusting the positions they had been playing in for two thirds of the match? he has stood in fantastically well at right back when needed in games you probably haven't seen and so your opinion is lopsided.

[Ollie the Optimist]

zimm what drugs are you on? they seem pretty good.

[Letters]

zimm what drugs are you on? they seem pretty good.

If they make you that fucking miserable all the time I don't want any.

[GP]

If they make you that fucking miserable all the time I don't want any.

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2009_10_27/AMD-set-to-increase-Radeon-HD-5800-prices/AMD_ATI_Marvin_5870_350.jpg

tbh

[Letters]

People have picked me up on my 'obsession' with Zimm but the last few pages...well, read it for yourself. It's completely pointless debating with someone who forms a snap opinion of players - sometimes based on preconceptions about them rather than watching them play for us - and just REFUSES to amend or revise that opinion regardless of how they do.
If said player plays well, even for an extended spell, it's dismissed, any mistake is siezed on and held up as 'proof' of the opinion being correct.

:shrug:

[Coney]

People have picked me up on my 'obsession' with Zimm but the last few pages...well, read it for yourself. It's completely pointless debating with someone who forms a snap opinion of players - sometimes based on preconceptions about them rather than watching them play for us - and just REFUSES to amend or revise that opinion regardless of how they do.
If said player plays well, even for an extended spell, it's dismissed, any mistake is siezed on and held up as 'proof' of the opinion being correct.

:shrug:

The grammatical error in that last sentence proves that all of your posts for the last 4 years are utter crap.

[Letters]

<_<

:getcoat:



Your face is a grammatical error :p

[Coney]

<_<

:getcoat:



Your face is a grammatical error :p

You should put a fullstop to that.

[Letters]

:lol:

[LDG]

Much lols over the last few pages.

Zimm :lol:

Arse

^

Head

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I seem to remember a few seasons ago Song being our most omproved player by a long way. . .Kos is that this year. . . .:pray: to see Theo take tje same accolade

[Cripps_orig]

I must admit, Kos has improved. From being one of the worst CBs around last season to being better than Djouou this season is an improvement. Not much of an improvement but as a great man once sais "it doesn't matter if you improve by an inch or a mile, improving is improving" I have no doubt that in 10 years time he will finally reach the level Miquels at right now. Yay can't wait

[LDG]

I must admit, Kos has improved. From being one of the worst CBs around last season to being better than Djouou this season is an improvement. Not much of an improvement but as a great man once sais "it doesn't matter if you improve by an inch or a mile, improving is improving" I have no doubt that in 10 years time he will finally reach the level Miquels at right now. Yay can't wait

:haha:

[Grebbo]

Would Kos and Verm get into the Manure, Citeh, Chelsea, Spurs teams? I'm not so sure. It's alright saying that Kos has been amazing but he was coming from being shit so being anything other than shit is going to make him look good. Plus our defence is usually so poor that any half decent defensive performances stand out.

Gallas has been Spurs' best defender and they are above us in the league by a few points plus a game in hand. We shouldn't have sold him imo.

[LDG]

:lol:

[Letters]

Are you pissed again?

[LDG]

Me?

I was laughing at Grebbo's awful post.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Would Kos and Verm get into the Manure, Citeh, Chelsea, Spurs teams?How does 'Fuck Yes' grab you?

[Cripps_orig]

Vermaelen would. Kos? :lol:

[Syn]

Robin wum persie:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-striker-Robin-van-Persie-conned-Alan-Hutton-into-getting-sent-off-fumes-Aston-Villa-boss-McLeish-article845727.html

[Özim]

Vermaelen would. Kos? :lol:
Pretty much, Vermaelen would have a chance but Kos :lol:

As Grebbo said, going from being utterly sh*t it's not that hard to improve, plus some people are easily impressed on here, must be something to do with Wenger's 5 second memory rubbing off on them or something!

[Master Splinter]

Robin wum persie:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-striker-Robin-van-Persie-conned-Alan-Hutton-into-getting-sent-off-fumes-Aston-Villa-boss-McLeish-article845727.html

Leading from the front :bow:.

RVP - Woolcheer - Szczesny

What a glorious WUM spine we have.

Just need Mertesacker to turn into a little bitch now.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Pretty much, Vermaelen would have a chance but Kos :lol:

As Grebbo said, going from being utterly sh*t it's not that hard to improve, plus some people are easily impressed on here, must be something to do with Wenger's 5 second memory rubbing off on them or something!

Yeah, it couldn't be you, it must be everyone else - you know, the people that actually go to matches or watch him play on television.

[Letters]

My guess would be WUM, tbh. :shrug:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Would Kos and Verm get into the Manure, Citeh, Chelsea, Spurs teams? I'm not so sure. It's alright saying that Kos has been amazing but he was coming from being shit so being anything other than shit is going to make him look good. Plus our defence is usually so poor that any half decent defensive performances stand out.

Gallas has been Spurs' best defender and they are above us in the league by a few points plus a game in hand. We shouldn't have sold him imo.

:blink:

Gallas has played a grand total of three games in the league for the Spuds this season. Five appearances in total.

[Letters]

:blink:

Gallas has played a grand total of three games in the league for the Spuds this season. Five appearances in total.

You can prove anything with facts :sulk:

[Grebbo]

:blink:

Gallas has played a grand total of three games in the league for the Spuds this season. Five appearances in total.

Dang.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Pretty much, Vermaelen would have a chance but Kos :lol:

As Grebbo said, going from being utterly sh*t it's not that hard to improve, plus some people are easily impressed on here, must be something to do with Wenger's 5 second memory rubbing off on them or something!

zimm if our kos is really that shit, given that he played in pretty much all our matches so far this season, do you think we would be on a run where in the last 7 games we have conceded 4 goals? held out in europe against dortmund and marsaille. you say kos wouldnt get into the chelsea defence or the united defence, going on this seaosn they would jump at the chance to have him right now. the united team who have such a better defence then us, had 6 goals by city at home put past them, lost to basel with fuck ups, lest said about chelsea the better. yet when we faced them, city had to work fucking hard to score and tbh we deserved a draw.

use your brain, watch the matches fully and hten comment. but seeing as you odnt watch them because you are fed up wenger even though we are winning right now you cant comment fully

[gunnerrrrr]

Kos now settled into this league is in my opinion our best defender and if he carries on with the form and performances he has shown in the league and europe i may be tempted to start branding the word "World Class" around.

If anyone is saying the boy has been shit, they simply have not watched any Arsenal games on TV or in flesh....its pure BS.

[Cripps_orig]

Kos now settled into this league is in my opinion our best defender and if he carries on with the form and performances he has shown in the league and europe i may be tempted to start branding the word "World Class" around.

If anyone is saying the boy has been shit, they simply have not watched any Arsenal games on TV or in flesh....its pure BS.Bit late.

We've had 2 games since