Cricket Thread

[Cripps_orig]

174 all out

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74-1

Compton gone for 7

Surely the end of his England career

Cook has gone a little bit nuts

[Cripps_orig]

Compton and Trott are horrific.

Compton took 45 balls for that 7

Trott is in 9 from 48

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England 196-1 currently, Cook on 129. :bow:

Trott still on 51. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

210-2, Cook went for 130.

[LDG]

Bell goes for 6.

214-3

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Time to declare now. Stops Root getting a chance to work in on Cook's century record. :ninja:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Cook is just a run machine. 25th ton, 7500 test runs, 10,000 international runs.

if he keeps going as he is who knows how many runs he will end up with? he will go down as one of the great batsman, im sure of it.

[Cripps_orig]

287-5 declared

NZ need 468 to win

[McNamara That Ghost...]

NZ are 65-3, Swann with two of the wickets, Broad with the other.

[Cripps_orig]

144-4

Finn with the 4th

[LDG]

NZ finished on 158-6 with swann having taken 4 of the wickets.

Pissing rain tomorrow though, so hope they have enough play to finish the job.

[Cripps_orig]

England will host the 2019 World Cup

In more important news, The best batsmen of all time has retired from the most entertaining form of cricket of all time

[LDG]

The covers are off :faint:

[LDG]

McCullum goes for 1, c and b Broad.

170-7

[McNamara That Ghost...]

218-8, Swann gets Southee for 38. Swann on five-for. :bow:

[LDG]

Bad light stops play :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Play to resume at 3pm apparently.

[LDG]

Hmmm.

Hasn't stopped raining all day down here, so pretty amazed the northerners are getting away with dry spells.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

220-9!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Anderson gets the final wicket!

England win. :bow:

[LDG]

:dance:

Anderson moves up to 3rd in Englands all time leading wicket takers :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

NZ are terrible.

Cook apart, England look very average. They'll win the ashes cos Aussies are even worse but both are miles behind Soith Africa.

[PGFC]

ODI, Kiwis chasing 228 are 1-2 Anderson :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Took a while for the third to come. 121-3, Taylor goes for 54.

Just before that Nasser was bemoaning the decision for England to go to their best bowler for a needed wicket. :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Buttler. :haha:

Had a chance to get Guptill out on 99.

NZ win. :lol: And Guptill gets his century!

England. :doh:

[Cripps_orig]

England are awful in pressure cricket

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Champions Trophy on soon. :(

[Cripps_orig]

NZ 117-1 off 23 overs

Guptill has a half century. He was dropped by Trott early on in his innings :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

202-2, Guptill just got another century. :bow:

[Syn]

The England wickets are doing nothing this summer. India played a warm-up yesterday and chased down 334 against Sri Lanka. It was like bowling on a road. In county cricket too there have been more runs than usual.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Guptill up to 144. NZ nearing 300.

[Cripps_orig]

God forbid bowlers actually have to use some talent to get wickets instead of letting the pitch do all the work

The likes of McGrath, Warne, Munaf Patel etc will be turning in their graves

[McNamara That Ghost...]

167 for Guptill.

Trott. :doh:

FFS.

[Syn]

God forbid bowlers actually have to use some talent to get wickets instead of letting the pitch do all the work

The likes of McGrath, Warne, Munaf Patel etc will be turning in their graves

Munaf Patel :lol:

The ultimate trundler.

NZ 340-3 with one over to go. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

185 for Guptill.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

NZ make 359-3. :haha:

England need to get the second ever highest run chase in ODIs.

189 off 155 for Guptill. Not bad.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

7.2 runs an over needed.

Over to you Cook and Trott. Eek.

[Syn]

185 for Guptill.

Finn is having a mare.

Think you mean Dernbach? 10 overs for 87 :lol:

England can chase this. They should be trying out a few more youngsters in the top order - might make a similar impact to Joe Root.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah I did, should have realised by the stumps not going flying at the non striker's end and that Finn isn't actually playing.

Casual watching on Sky Go. :bow:

England will start well, Bell with fall over and it'll go tits up from thereon in.

[Cripps_orig]

Pretty much guaranteed Cook and/or Trott will get half centuries off 90 odd balls which won't be good enough but their averages will be boosted and they will be praised as world class by the clueless

[Syn]

Love watching Bell bat. Quality technique and can play every shot in the book.

[Syn]

Cook 31 off 24 balls so far. Bowlers are chucking pies. Would love to lay into these half-volleys.

[Cripps_orig]

50-1

Cook gone for 34

Another flop from him. World class indeed :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

64-2

Bell gone and with him, all hope

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bell has all the technique but none of the staying power.

[Cripps_orig]

Trott has 8 from 17 balls :haha:

[Syn]

Trott has 8 from 17 balls :haha:

:lol:

and now the NZ wicket keeper purposely drops a stumping chance to keep trott in.

This is a good challenge for Root. Ugly style but has a lot of staying power. The anti-Bell.

[Syn]

Did I just hear David Gower right? That was only Trott's 3rd ever 6 in ODIs? Incredible given he averages over 50...though it does explain 75 strike rate.

[Cripps_orig]

Only way England are winning this is if Trott gets out ASAP and it gives their other players enough time

[Cripps_orig]

Root gone for 28

Trott in his 30s off 40 odd balls :haha:

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Morgan goes

Other batsmen have to score exceptionally quick to cover for Trotts pathetic innings of 2 fours and 1 six in 60 odd balls.

He's passed his 50 as expected but the worst player I've seen in cricket ever by a mile

[McNamara That Ghost...]

169-5, Buttler goes for 2.

I don't think England will win this.

[Cripps_orig]

212-6

Woakes gone

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213-7

Bresnan run out

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221-8

Swann gone

Humiliation is nearly complete.

[Cripps_orig]

After 41 overs, England are actually ahead of where NZ were :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

265-9

Anderson gone for a quick fire 28

In other news, Trott scores the most pointless century of all time

[Syn]

Trott 103* off 100 balls.

What an innings.

Cripps :haha:

Awful judge of cricketing ability.

[Cripps_orig]

273 all out

NZ win by 86 runs

England are terrible. Trott is the Messi of cricket. Not a team player and only interested in his own performances

[Ollie the Optimist]

Graham Napier - 8 overs, 3 maidens 32 runs and SEVEN wickets! including 4 wickets in 4 balls.


surely not that bad a shout for the england ODI side?

[Cripps_orig]

The Essex pubber who hit that awesome innings in a T20 match couple of years back?

[Ollie the Optimist]

The Essex pubber who hit that awesome innings in a T20 match couple of years back?

thats him. except he has devolped into a very very good all rounder. got lots of runs and wickets this season as well as last with a very quick strike rate too. better option then dernbach

[Cripps_orig]

Can't be any worse than the crap we have atm.

[Syn]

4 wickets in 4 balls.

Did he bowl some slower balls? Even better - some slower ball bouncers? A dhoosara? A wide yorker? A wide slower ball yorker?

Cricket has gone to shit.

[Ollie the Optimist]

4 wickets in 4 balls.

Did he bowl some slower balls? Even better - some slower ball bouncers? A dhoosara? A wide yorker? A wide slower ball yorker?

Cricket has gone to shit.

nope just fast pace, couple of yorkers and some inswinging on a length lbws. lovely cricket

[Ollie the Optimist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBoLLvh_-Z0

proper fast bowling that.

Napier :bow:
Essex :bow:
Cricket :bow:

[Syn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBoLLvh_-Z0

proper fast bowling that.

Napier :bow:
Essex :bow:
Cricket :bow:

So half volley pies then.

They could've been dealt with a reverse sweep, a dil-scoop or a helicopter shot.

[Syn]

Warm up game between Australia and India in Cardiff.

India were 55/5 off 15 overs. Ended up getting 308/6 off their 50 overs.

Australia will probably chase it down.

[Syn]

Yadav's destroying them. 14/3 off 7 overs. They're so poor - whether it's Tests or ODIs. Only threat to an Ashes whitewash is the weather.

[Ollie the Optimist]

apparently michael clarke had to see a specialist today about his back and lower back injury. if he is injured and cant play in the ashes, they are fucked

[Syn]

Yeah, he has been carrying them over the past year or so. Fantastic player.

[Syn]

37-6 now :lol:

yadav with 5

[Syn]

Australia bowled out for 65. :lol:

[Syn]

Eng 120-2 off 29 overs.

Bell 60*, Root 22*.

[Syn]

Rooty runout. In comes morgy.

150/3 off 34.3

[Syn]

Belly gone for 82. Well played but silly time and shot to get out.

In comes bopsy.

[Syn]

what an innings by Buttler. - 47* off 16 balls. England somehow get to 287/6 off 50 overs. Looked impossible with 10 overs to go.

[Cripps_orig]

NZ 143-6 off 29 overs.

[Syn]

England win. #zomg #butler #ollieyoubender #letssignlarsbender

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Essex are 20-8 in their County Championship game against Lancashire :blink:

20 all out now.

[GP]

:haha:

[Syn]

Ollie :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

20 all out? WTF?

:haha:

[GP]

Honestly, I reckon I could do better than that.

[Letters]

20 :lol:

Ollie :pal:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Honestly, I reckon I could do better than that.

In four deliveries.

[PGFC]

20 :lol:

Ollie :pal:

Even his County side hate him.

[Ollie the Optimist]

The worst thing about that Essex performance is you could make a decent argument that it wasn't the worst performance by us this season


Fucking useless wankers

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23026163

Aussies are in turmoil

[Cripps_orig]

Darren Lehmann is their new coach.

[Syn]

Quality cutter. Played lots of county cric in England. Liked him as a player.

[Cripps_orig]

Boyd Rankin, an Irish player who has played for Irish youth teams up to the full side is in the England squad for the game against NZ tomorrow.

So thats Morgan and now him?

What a farce

[McNamara That Ghost...]

NZ made 201-4 off their 20 overs in the first T20.

England are 39-0 off 3 overs.

[Cripps_orig]

Morgan flops again

Wright has his 50

Bopara is the new batsman in

130-3 off 13 overs

[McNamara That Ghost...]

185-5. 17 off 7 needed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

10 off 4 needed.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

8 off 2 needed. :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

7 off 1 needed. Six for a superover.

FFS England.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England lose again.

:rose:

[Cripps_orig]

Surely the end for Morgan?

Scored only 7 and those took 10 balls which ultimately cost England.

[Syn]

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

It's happened again, it's happened agaaaaaaaaaaaaain...

[Cripps_orig]

KP is back :bow:

Some pub teamer called Tredwell is captain.

Morgan injured

NZ win the toss and field

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rain stops play two balls in. :haha:

England managed to lose a wicket in that time. :doh:

2-1, Lumb went.

[Cripps_orig]

Match abandoned

KP MOTM.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23076230

What a farce the game of cricket is

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Essex vs England today in a test match.

:popcorn:

[Cripps_orig]

Who's Cook playing for?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'll decide when I've seen his batting.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bopara captaining Essex. :lol:

Essex won the toss and will bowl first.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bresnan got a century. :blink:

[Syn]

There was a 15 year old 12th man in the field for Essex. Was pretty good too - made some good dives on the boundary.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ollie. :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Essex v England turned into a bit of a farce

[Syn]

Ramsey is bowling 94mph wide half volleys. Just imagine the feeling of middling one of them dives. I guess pub teamers such as myself will never get forward enough to have a go.

Been watching/working at the varsity cricket between Oxford and cambridge at fenner's. it counts as a first class match whereas if Rutherford hits a century against finn and co. it doesn't. :haha:

Oxford are 438/5 and agarwal is 250*. Cambridge elected to field. Good work lads :doh:

[Syn]

Declared on 550/7. Agarwal 313* :lol: we might see him in the Surrey line up soon. Though there are better prospects playing. Camb lost their first wicket for 20 odd. Enough pub cricket, I'm off to the pub.

[Syn]

After winning the ICC trophy, India have played 2 and lost 2 and today play West Indies and basically need a win. Dhoni has pulled a rosicky and is out for a few months. kohli is captain. Tune in for Sky Sports from 3pm.

In other news, the ICC trophy has now been scrapped and will be replaced by a 'Test match world championship'. From 2017, the top four ranked test nations will battle it out.

Top four :haha:

Time for Wenger to coach India.

[Syn]

The current 'Big four' are SA, England, India and Australia. Odds on Bangladesh sneaking in before 2017?

[Syn]

West Injuns win the toss and put Injuns in to bat. Bat off at 14:30 BST or 15:30 GMT.

[Syn]

India 47-0 from 11.2 overs.

[Cripps_orig]

173-4 off 36 overs

[Cripps_orig]

311-7 off 50 overs

[Syn]

Another standard Virat Kohli hundred saves the day. Whatever.

[Syn]

Cripps :haha:

Remind me again of how Kohli is shit...

[Cripps_orig]

Cripps :haha:

Remind me again of how Kohli is shit...
One word

Sehwag

Syn :haha:

Anyway 14-1

Gayle gone

[Cripps_orig]

56-2

Rain stops play

[Cripps_orig]

74-5

[Cripps_orig]

113-8

[Syn]

This is all going to shit. India better bowl them out under 217 or they won't get their much needed bonus point.

[Cripps_orig]

WI all out for 171

India win by 140 runs

[Syn]

India get a bonus point.

And Cripps, you're welcome. Because you didn't have a clue this match was on before I pointed it out earlier.

[Cripps_orig]

I did. I just didn't post about it like the previous matches.

With the ICC trophy over, not much cricket coming up anyway worth watching

[Syn]

You're welcome.

India are going to Zimbabwe soon. Not sure it'll be on Sky Sports.

Proper cricket coming up:

SA (B team) versus Australia (Jul-Aug)
SA (A team) versus India (Nov-Dec)

[Syn]

WTF?! Dhawan is MOTM?!

That's the most pathetic decision I've ever seen.

edit: Ah not, it's alright. It's some other gay award.

[Cripps_orig]

Really?

Surprised but good call.

His innings set the tone.

[Syn]

SL go from 171-2 to 201 all out. Jadeja with 4 wickets. Injuns chase 202 to win the cup.

[Cripps_orig]

Ponting officially retires

Scored a century in his last match.

What a player

[cricketsi]

I fucking love Test match cricket. Nothing else in sport comes close to the Ashes.

[Cripps_orig]

I take it you haven't watched Cooks shocking innings then?

[cricketsi]

My post should have been in the Ashes thread. Just too excited to finally be home and watching it.

[Cripps_orig]

So you haven't seen it then?

I'm sure your excitement will decrease

[cricketsi]

So you haven't seen it then?

I'm sure your excitement will decrease

This match is fascinating, nothing I'd rather be watching. If you can't appreciate that, I pity you. Only shame is the commentary on Sky is not as good as when it was on Channel 4 or BBC back in the day. I did enjoy listening on the radio in the car though.

[Cripps_orig]

Watch Cook and his lets score no runs tactic he is employing.

If you think that is fascinating, you don't know cricket seeing as scoring runs is the aim

[cricketsi]

Watch Cook and his lets score no runs tactic he is employing.

If you think that is fascinating, you don't know cricket seeing as scoring runs is the aim
:lol: I knew more about cricket as a 10 year old than you're ever likely to know. Presumably you think hitting 30 off 20 balls then getting out would be better, but with 3+ days still to play he's doing absolutely the right thing, building an innings.

It might not suit your attention span, but I suspect the fact it suits your WUMmitude gives it some merit.

[Syn]

Shut up cripps you moron.

[cricketsi]

Shut up cripps you moron.
Yeah, that's what I should be posting in every cricket related exchange with him.

[Cripps_orig]

:lol: I knew more about cricket as a 10 year old than you're ever likely to know. Presumably you think hitting 30 off 20 balls then getting out would be better, but with 3+ days still to play he's doing absolutely the right thing, building an innings.

It might not suit your attention span, but I suspect the fact it suits your WUMmitude gives it some merit.
Oh dear.

Resorting to the WUM thing usually means you have no argument.

Better luck next time

[cricketsi]

Cos you've embarrassed yourself time and time again?

Don't blame you.

Remind me again how scoring no runs is better than scoring runs :haha:

You must have been one dumbass 10 year old

So if a dumbass is smarter than you, what does that make you?

Scoring more runs over a longer period of time is better than scoring fewer runs faster. Not rocket science is it?

[GP]

So if a dumbass is smarter than you, what does that make you?

Scoring more runs over a longer period of time is better than scoring fewer runs faster. Not rocket science is it?

Rocket science :lol:

Awful brain surgery

[Cripps_orig]

So if a dumbass is smarter than you, what does that make you?

Scoring more runs over a longer period of time is better than scoring fewer runs faster. Not rocket science is it?

But you're not smarter. I've just proven that.

Dear god, it's like talking to a brick wall.

What's better, scoring 30 off 20 balls or 20 off 146 balls?

It's a no brainer.

Just look at today's play. The whole talk is of Agars innings. 98 off 101 balls. No doubt you think that was an awful innings though cos by your logic, runs don't matter. Staying at the crease does :roll eyes:

[cricketsi]

But you're not smarter. I've just proven that.

Dear god, it's like talking to a brick wall.

What's better, scoring 30 off 20 balls or 20 off 146 balls?

It's a no brainer.

Just look at today's play. The whole talk is of Agars innings. 98 off 101 balls. No doubt you think that was an awful innings though cos by your logic, runs don't matter. Staying at the crease does :roll eyes:

Scoring 30 off 20 balls will usually better, except in some circumstances when you are playing for time to save a match, when time at the crease might be more important.

Here's one for you:

In the context of this afternoon's play for England, what is better, scoring 30 off 20 balls and getting out, or scoring 29 off 150 balls and still being in at the close of play? There's only one correct answer here by the way, and if you can't work it out you're beyond cricketing redemption.

[Syn]

Brainless discussion. And Cripps, if you don't want to be called a WUM you won't avoid Cricketsi's last point. If you're capable, answer it.

[Cripps_orig]

The last point where he said there's only one answer and acting all high and mighty?

[Syn]

The last point where he said there's only one answer

You're acting no different. And yes. It's not about scoring 'fast' or 'slow'. Anyone who has played cricket to a decent level knows the red ball does a lot more in the air and off the seam. It seems you're not capable of acknowledging the relative probabilities of surviving when pushing forward with the bat to score runs compared to playing with soft hands and defending. Do you seriously think batsmen enjoy hanging about doing 'fuck all' but surviving? You think Dravid enjoyed dropping his hands against 90mph bowling and taking bruises around the ribs in every Aussie tour? He does it to survive.

What would you call a football fan who keeps shouting about how every team shouldn't worry about defending and just throw everyone forward in every attack? Or a boxing fan who keeps saying a boxer shouldn't worry about guarding his face but only punching the opponent? Because that's equivalent to what you're saying. In any sport there is this balance between playing safe and attacking, and the top guys in their field are successful because they work out those changing odds according to the changing conditions. This is really basic stuff.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Cripps, you should gone with Kohli :haha: rather than pollute the thread with the usual bullshit. He got out for 2 so you'd have a point.

[Cripps_orig]

And when someone is playing defensively in football, you are amongst the first to criticise. Why is this so different?

I'm no hypocrite. I like to be entertained. I'm a fan and I want England to win this series. Not particularly fussed if they don't but as long as its entertaining, to fans that's the main thing.

Is this entertaining? No. It's to put it in a way you'd understand, Stokeing it up.

If a number 11 batsmen can come out and play like that, then accomplished batsmen have no excuse not to

[Cripps_orig]

Cripps, you should gone with Kohli :haha: rather than pollute the thread with the usual bullshit. He got out for 2 so you'd have a point.

Usual bullshit which no one has ever proven me wrong in.

:doh:

[Cripps_orig]

Lets give you Testicles a question of your own. It is one I have asked before and hasn't been answered and I've just been reminded of it by the usual bs WUMming by Dennis Bendtner whoever he is.

Put a kid in front of a tv and make him watch Agars innings. Then put him in front of Cooks.

Which is more likely to get him in to the game of cricket?

Tests are not popular these days. That is something that can't be argued against. The crowds all over the world at Test matches are very low. Why is that?

Another question that is that's been avoided whenever it has been asked

[Syn]

And when someone is playing defensively in football, you are amongst the first to criticise. Why is this so different?

:blink:


I'm no hypocrite. I like to be entertained. I'm a fan and I want England to win this series. Not particularly fussed if they don't but as long as its entertaining, to fans that's the main thing.

Is this entertaining? No. It's to put it in a way you'd understand, Stokeing it up.

If a number 11 batsmen can come out and play like that, then accomplished batsmen have no excuse not to

It doesn't matter if it's entertaining or not. The bottom line is - it's not a choice between scoring 80 off 70 balls and 80 off 210 balls. It's a choice between scoring 80 off 70 balls with probability x, and scoring 80 off 210 with probability y. You're too stupid to realise this.

[Syn]

Lets give you Testicles a question of your own. It is one I have asked before and hasn't been answered and I've just been reminded of it by the usual bs WUMming by Dennis Bendtner whoever he is.

Put a kid in front of a tv and make him watch Agars innings. Then put him in front of Cooks.

Which is more likely to get him in to the game of cricket?

Tests are not popular these days. That is something that can't be argued against. The crowds all over the world at Test matches are very low. Why is that?

Another question that is that's been avoided whenever it has been asked

Highest grossing films of all time:

1 Avatar
2 Titanic
3 The Avengers

Best selling doesn't mean most skillful. We're not talking about what is more popular so don't change the subject. You criticising batsmen for playing slow is suggesting they're not doing their jobs properly. You're saying they could score the same runs in less balls. That's the issue I'm taking up with you. The 'entertaining' argument is a nice cop out but we're not discussing it right now because we have done many times before.

[Cripps_orig]

:blink:



It doesn't matter if it's entertaining or not. The bottom line is - it's not a choice between scoring 80 off 70 balls and 80 off 210 balls. It's a choice between scoring 80 off 70 balls with probability x, and scoring 80 off 210 with probability y. You're too stupid to realise this.

Doesn't matter if its entertaining or not? Wtf?

And you call me stupid?

I'm a fan. It's all that matters. Making stupid emoticon faces cos you're too idiotic to get the comparison doesn't get you off.

Entertainment may not matter to the players, it does to fans. You're not a player no matter how deluded you are

[Dennis Bendtner]

Why don't you sort out a tour of England, ring up Afridi and ask him to open the batting for you. Let us know how you get on.

[Cripps_orig]

Highest grossing films of all time:

1 Avatar
2 Titanic
3 The Avengers

Best selling doesn't mean most skillful. We're not talking about what is more popular so don't change the subject. You criticising batsmen for playing slow is suggesting they're not doing their jobs properly. You're saying they could score the same runs in less balls. That's the issue I'm taking up with you. The 'entertaining' argument is a nice cop out but we're not discussing it right now because we have done many times before.

And they can score the same amount in less balls. There's no excuse. A number 11 did it. All this defensive shit does is add pressure.

The best form of defence is attack. You may have not have heard of this cops you aren't the brightest but it relates to this. If Cook gets out early tomorrow, this whole evening session has been a waste. Some would say it has been already.

If he does score runs and gets a 50 or a hundred, it will be to facing deliveries like he did today which again backs up my point. If he can do it tomorrow then why not do it today? It's all hypothetical ATM of course.

I noticed how both my questions were conveniently left unanswered as they have been many times. Didn't expect an answer. You don't have one that would justify your not scoring runs is better than scoring runs tactic.

[Syn]

Doesn't matter if its entertaining or not? Wtf?

And you call me stupid?

I'm a fan. It's all that matters. Making stupid emoticon faces cos you're too idiotic to get the comparison doesn't get you off.

Entertainment may not matter to the players, it does to fans. You're not a player no matter how deluded you are

Players are there to win. That's their job. They win by scoring runs or taking wickets and ultimately whether their team wins. Whether they entertain you doesn't matter in terms of how well they're doing their job. You can win ugly, you can win in style - as we know, it all counts the same. You're suggesting players are not doing their job well because they're not entertaining you. But if they're scoring runs - and Trott, Cook and many others you criticise average high (50 in Tests) and their team is winning, they are doing their job. What about this is so difficult to understand?

[Cripps_orig]

Why don't you sort out a tour of England, ring up Afridi and ask him to open the batting for you. Let us know how you get on.

Wtf are you on about?

More importantly who are you? It's not the first time you've tried to act all clever and made to look an idiot due to things you know f all about.

Keep out ofmit

[Cripps_orig]

Players are there to win. That's their job. They win by scoring runs or taking wickets and ultimately whether their team wins. Whether they entertain you doesn't matter in terms of how well they're doing their job. You can win ugly, you can win in style - as we know, it all counts the same. You're suggesting players are not doing their job well because they're not entertaining you. But if they're scoring runs - and Trott, Cook and many others you criticise average high (50 in Tests) and their team is winning, they are doing their job. What about this is so difficult to understand?
I'm looking at it from a fans pov. And Cook, Trott etc play the same way in ODIs and they are shit in that so it doesn't get them results. It didn't get them the win in New Zealand either and England since beating India to go top of the rankings a couple of years back have been poor in tests.

[Syn]

And they can score the same amount in less balls. There's no excuse. A number 11 did it. All this defensive shit does is add pressure.

That's the crux of your argument. And it's simply not true. On the odd occasion, playing overly aggressively will pay off. But generally batsmen are cautious because they need to be cautious. Your logic is not right either. Sport isn't transitive. Just because a no.11 scores 100 off 90 doesn't mean a no.3 should. But over time, the no.3 should definitely average more than the no.11.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Don't you understand the difference between batting at 1,2,3 and 11?

No one is denying there's more than one way to skin a cat. But for some reason you're placing batting at the top in direct comparison with the bottom. New ball, often cloud cover, fresh seamers compared to old ball and sunshine. It's completely different.

Best not to go down the idiot route when you're consistently on your own in these threads.

[Cripps_orig]

That's the crux of your argument. And it's simply not true. On the odd occasion, playing overly aggressively will pay off. But generally batsmen are cautious because they need to be cautious. Your logic is not right either. Sport isn't transitive. Just because a no.11 scores 100 off 90 doesn't mean a no.3 should. But over time, the no.3 should definitely average more than the no.11.

A number 3 should try :good:

Playing defensively and getting out which always happens helps no one.

There is overly aggressive but there is overly defensive and the latter is what Cook was doing today and there was no reason to be. This Aussie attack is shit. Put the pressure on them by scoring runs. Not on your own team be not scoring runs

[Cripps_orig]

Don't you understand the difference between batting at 1,2,3 and 11?

No one is denying there's more than one way to skin a cat. But for some reason you're placing batting at the top in direct comparison with the bottom. New ball, cloud cover compared to old ball and sunshine. It's completely different.

They are all cricket players aren't they? Number 11 batsmen will have to bat nearly every innings in a test so you're saying they shouldn't bother?

[Dennis Bendtner]

They are all cricket players aren't they? Number 11 batsmen will have to bat nearly every innings in a test so you're saying they shouldn't bother?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[Cripps_orig]

The ball is round. New or not it does the same thing.

Cloud cover is bs.

As is sunshine.

Neither play a part in a batsman innings

[Dennis Bendtner]

Agreed.

[Syn]

The ball is round. New or not it does the same thing.

Cloud cover is bs.

As is sunshine.

Neither play a part in a batsman innings

Believe it or not, that's ultimately what you're arguing despite everyone in world cricket telling you different.

[Cripps_orig]

Believe it or not, that's ultimately what you're arguing despite everyone in world cricket telling you different.

So the opening batsmen can play the same way as Agar did then after all

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Isn't the point that it's far, far, far more likely you're going to get out cheaply if you play like it's a limited overs game than if you try and build an innings. And a number of batsmen getting out cheaply when there's still, say, 3 days left is suicide. It might look good for 15 minutes smashing 20 off an over or two but is ultimately fruitless. And yes players can have an innings like Agar's today where everything they hit is gold, but more often than not they don't, and far more often than not they go out very quickly. And it ignores the point that a number 11 can play with such freedom because no one expects anything of them, whilst a top order batsman is expected to build a solid score for the next one's in not just get quick runs for the sake of it.

And yes, obviously a 70 ball hundred is hundred is preferable to a 400 ball hundred, but there is a hell of a lot more chance involved when you just play swing-and-a-miss as opposed to being disciplined and protecting your wicket. And that's ignoring how difficult it is to do it in the first place.

In any case, if I derided test matches so much and went on and on and on about how boring and pointless they are I just wouldn't watch them in the first place. Ah screw it I don't care.

Anyway, Agar may as well retire now. It's all downhill from here.

[Dennis Bendtner]

^ yes.

The problem with complaining about the lack of attacking is the assumption that every scenario in cricket is the same. When it obviously isn't. Equating an opener's innings to a tail-ender's, equating an ODI to a Test match, equating a match in England with one in the subcontinent, equating playing the new ball to playing the old one.

But hey, apparently the ball is round so :shrug:

[Cripps_orig]

^ yes.

The problem with complaining about the lack of attacking is the assumption that every scenario in cricket is the same. When it obviously isn't. Equating an opener's innings to a tail-ender's, equating a match in England with one in the subcontinent, equating playing the new ball to playing the old one.

But hey, apparently the ball is round so :shrug:It is round :good:

Ok answer me this as you and others have failed to answer the previous 2.

Agar just plays the innings of the match and then gets out. When he came in, Aussies were 117-9, that's pressure. He got out and a few minutes later, England come out to bat under the same conditions on the same pitch with what I assume is the same ball yet they play like they did. Why? Your ridiculous theory of new ball, conditions etc doesn't wash today as they had the same things going on Agar did yet he produced and they haven't. And they are meant to be the batsmen.

[Dennis Bendtner]

It is round :good:

Ok answer me this as you and others have failed to answer the previous 2.

Agar just plays the innings of the match and then gets out. When he came in, Aussies were 117-9, that's pressure. He got out and a few minutes later, England come out to bat under the same conditions on the same pitch with what I assume is the same ball yet they play like they did. Why? Your ridiculous theory of new ball, conditions etc doesn't wash today as they had the same things going on Agar did yet he produced and they haven't. And they are meant to be the batsmen.

:lol:

[Syn]

Jebus. :haha:

anyway, India are about to finally get beaten by Sri Lanka in the final. Unless dhoni can maverick up another rescue mission on a ridiculous pitch. Should see Rohit Sharma's wicket - the ball might as well have rolled.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Dhoni rescue mission on one leg :lol:

Why is he even playing.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Now someone's hit malinga with a bottle of water :unsure:

[Dennis Bendtner]

Dhoni trying another hero-job. 9 needed off 4.

[Dennis Bendtner]

He's done it :haha:

[Syn]

Fucking hell. That guy is something else.

[Syn]

Genuinely thought that was beyond him. He can't even jog ffs.

[Dennis Bendtner]

He just makes me laugh. What a weirdo.

[Syn]

Sure I wasn't the only one mumbling abuse at him when he kept hobbling singles off the first ball. He seemingly makes the most ridiculous decisions and then when the situation's almost impossible, he gets them home. Don't think Beven was even in the same league in terms of being the maverick. Australia were always favourites and he would just finish 40 off 40 balls. The way Dhoni carries the tailenders through it is remarkable.

[Dennis Bendtner]

"The most flexible player of the series."

"Cycle Agarbatthie's Most trusted player of the series."

What the fuck are these awards?

[Syn]

Dunno. They've been handing out silly cheques after every game. Getting their sponsors in, I suppose.

[Dennis Bendtner]

:haha: Arun Lal the clown forgets to present the trophy.

Dhoni is a different kind of finisher because of that ability to shit a colossal six out of nowhere. From what I know Bevan was more of a knock and run type. Dhoni compromised in that regard today by his dodgy hamstring. So might as well leave 15 for the last over and hit a couple of sixes. You've actually seen him do it before where there's loads of wickets in hand and he takes it to the last few balls for no apparent reason anyway.

[Syn]

:haha:

Funniest presentation ceremony of all time.

[Syn]

Couldn't understand a word B Kumar was saying. Worse than Adebayor.

[cricketsi]

Has Cripps started a new thread because he got banned from this thread or something? Or did he just finally concede the point. If it's the former, this thread should continue.

[Letters]

It's the former.

[Boss]

Dhoni :bow: :bow:

Beast of a man.

[Kano]

this threads too big, we need a new cricket thread.

[cricketsi]

I was at Hove, watching some pub teamers playing the ICC European t20 or some bollocks like that. Shockingly low quality stuff, but enjoyable nonetheless. The majority of Italy and Denmark's teams were Indian or Pakistani though, didn't hear a word of Italian or Danish spoken out there!

[Syn]

Afridi scores 76 and took 7 wickets for 12 runs in pakistan's win against West Indies.

DSL :haha:

JtL :haha:

Dennis Bendtner :haha:

Afretard :bow:

[cricketsi]

Damn, 7 wickets in a ODI, mental, and he didn't even need his full 10 overs! Cricket would benefit from a stronger Windies team, as of old though.

[Syn]

It doesn't help that their most talented player missed the prime years of his career due to contract issues as because he prioritised IPL (non) cricket.

The West Indian people are crazy for cricket. Yet we saw in the 2007 World Cup how much ridiculous ticket prices and general administration is ruining the game over there. They just have so much raw talent that is going to waste because of improper coaching. Time for Sir Viv et al. to do some mentoring.

[cricketsi]

It doesn't help that their most talented player missed the prime years of his career due to contract issues as because he prioritised IPL (non) cricket.

The West Indian people are crazy for cricket. Yet we saw in the 2007 World Cup how much ridiculous ticket prices and general administration is ruining the game over there. They just have so much raw talent that is going to waste because of improper coaching. Time for Sir Viv et al. to do some mentoring.

Yeah, the ticketing at that World Cup was scandalous. I really do hope they sort it out, the more strong teams the better.

[Cripps_orig]

India won the 2nd ODI v Zimbabwe by 58 runs

Dhawan with a century :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23493953

India v Pakistan the must watch match

[Ollie the Optimist]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23493953

India v Pakistan the must watch match

why? it'll probably be fixed :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

It's the biggest rivalry in cricket

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

With the exception of Sri-Lanka we have quite a good draw there, Australia are no better at one day cricket presently than they are at Test Cricket.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Indian cricketer S Sreesanth has been charged with 38 other people over a spot-fixing scandal that has rocked the Indian Premier League.

Prosecutors brought charges of criminal conspiracy and cheating against Sreesanth, two of his Rajasthan Royals team-mates, and other non-cricketers.

Spot-fixing involves players bowling wides and no-balls at certain times arranged beforehand with bookmakers.

Sreesanth and team-mates Ajit Chandila and Ankeet Chavan deny the charges.

They were arrested in May along with scores of bookmakers.

A separate spot-fixing investigation by cricket officials led to cricket chief N Srinivasan stepping aside last month pending the outcome of the probe.

He left his post as the head of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) after his son-in-law Gurunath Meiyappan was arrested for suspected spot-fixing.

He and his Chennai Super Kings (CSK) franchise were exonerated by the inquiry, but the Bombay High Court has now ordered a "re-investigation".

Correspondents say the ruling could delay the return of Mr Srinivasan.

The scandal broke in May when Sreesanth, Chavan and Chandila were arrested.

Sreesanth and Chavan were later freed on bail, but Chandila remains in jail.

The trio, all bowlers, were suspended by India's cricket board and the Rajasthan Royals.

The IPL is considered to be the world's showcase for Twenty20 cricket.

Top Indian and international players take part, contributing to what is the world's richest cricket tournament.


from bbc news. im not even surprised

[Cripps_orig]

India won the 5th ODI v Zimbabwe.

Won 5-0

[Rors]

Painful press conference with 'KP' on TMS right now...

[Cripps_orig]

Watched Hampshire v Lancashire in the T20 this evening.

Hampshire 202-3 off 20 overs.

Some pubber with a brilliant 100 off 60 odd balls

Lancashire 201-4 off their 20.

Brilliant match and ending. Cricket is truly alive and well after a shocker so far this summer

[Ollie the Optimist]

Essex make finals day. :dance:

[Syn]

Amla to play the final six championship matches of the season for Surrey. Little bit more rain + little bit Amla = Surrey to be undefeated for the rest of the season.

[Syn]

Gambhir signs for Essex.

Another one we've missed out on.

Wenger :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Gambhir signs for Essex.

Another one we've missed out on.

Wenger :lol:

ive no idea how essex pulled that one off. we've done ok in last three signings. rutherford, tait and now Gambhir.

[Cripps_orig]

Monty joins Essex.

[Syn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/23837020

Fantastic news for Glamorgan. And considering how shit they are, it's badly needed.

[Cripps_orig]

Zimbabwe beat Pakistan by 7 wickets in the first ODI.

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

England v India will be a five test series

[Ollie the Optimist]

They can lose 5-0 this time instead of 4-0

[Cripps_orig]

England are nowhere near as good these days

[Syn]

And India are much better than they were now that they've got rid of their statistically legendary old fucks.

pujara's genuinely the best batsman from either team.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England vs Ireland in a ODI today.

Ireland 36-2, Joyce just trod on his wicket. Took a while before anybody realised the bail was off. :haha:

England: Carberry, Wright, Taylor, Ballance, Morgan, Bopara, Buttler, Stokes, Tredwell, Finn, Rankin.

Ireland: Porterfield, Stirling, Joyce, O'Brien, Wilson, O'Brien, Mooney, Johnston, Dockrell, Murtagh, Sorensen.

[Cripps_orig]

Rankin who has played for Ireland lining up for England against Ireland....

Cricket can be ridiculous at times

[Cripps_orig]

Gambhir signs for Essex.

Another one we've missed out on.

Wenger :lol:

Gone back to India

[Syn]

For family reasons. Spurns any chance he had of impressing for India for the SA tour.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rankin who has played for Ireland lining up for England against Ireland....

Cricket can be ridiculous at times

And Joyce who had played for England, including one against Ireland. :whistle:

South Africa vs India during the day, then Australia vs England at night. :cloud9:

Carberry. :haha:

Village fielding.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

95-3, Tredwell gets O'Brien.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

121-4, Tredwell gets Wilson.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

161-5, good catch by Morgan.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Finn still kneeing the stumps over. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Carberry drops another one. :haha:

FFS.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Porterfield smacks it for six to get his century!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

229-7, Rankin with four-for.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

STAY AWAY FROM THE STUMPS FINN!!

[Dennis Bendtner]

I saw Ashish Nehra out shopping a few weeks back. The legend.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ireland make 269-7 off their 50 overs.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England 25-3. :doh:

[Cripps_orig]

55-4

All down to the Irishman and Indian

[Cripps_orig]

Morgan has his 50

In other news, Aussies got 362-3 off 50 overs v Scotland.

Scotland 98-6

Finch with an awesome century

[McNamara That Ghost...]

140-4 now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bopara gets his fifty. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And Morgan his century. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England win by six wickets. :scarf:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sreesanth banned for life. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Zimbabwe beat Pakistan in the 2nd test to draw the series 1-1

First time they have beaten a major Test nation since 2001.

Pakistan :haha:

[Ollie the Optimist]

small change to DRS. after 80 overs, both teams get their reviews topped up back to 2.

think its both a good thing, and a bad thing. the best solution would have been to still keep umpires call but the team doesnt lose a review if it is umpires call. this just allows more timewasting really

[Syn]

Funny to see England and Australia moaning about it all summer. It's not ready.

India :bow:

Were right all along. Needs more work - particularly hotspot and hawkeye.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tendulkar will finally retire after the matches against West Indies. :bow:

[Dennis Bendtner]

:bow:

It was going to happen sooner rather than later but it feels strange all the same.