Weekend Fixtures 11th/12th February

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great ball from Ade.

[Cripps_orig]

2 great assists

[Cripps_orig]

And theres the 3rd assist :bow:

Couldnt give a fuck about the actual goals

Do they have to show Harry after every goal?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ade nearly moved in to an offside position there, he can't help himself. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Why is 'Arry doing Theo's golf swing after every goal?

[Cripps_orig]

Best assist so far :bow:

Now for the main event

[Olivier's xmas twist]

And theres the 3rd assist :bow:

Couldnt give a fuck about the actual goals

Do they have to show Harry after every goal?

Yes its "arry week remember, he looks like he is gonna keel over after every celebration lol

[Cripps_orig]

ADEBAYOR ADEBAYOR

ADEBAYOR ADEBAYOR

Great finish

Harry needs to STFU

[WengerISaLizard]

wow, this commentary is apalling, never seen motd saw poor and clearly masturbating to a football club

what the fuck

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Defoe :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

wow, this commentary is apalling, never seen motd saw poor and clearly masturbating to a football club

what the fuck

Man Utd late 90s/early 00s

[Özim]

Tottenham pretty awesome today, once upon a time we played exciting stuff like this.

Wenger out.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

wow, this commentary is apalling, never seen motd saw poor and clearly masturbating to a football club

what the fuck

You have to remember it "Harry week" so they are making him and spuds look good

[McNamara That Ghost...]

'Arry. :lol:

It's funny he is the one being tapped up.

[Marc Overmars]

Adebayor is a very good striker.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Tottenham pretty awesome today, once upon a time we played exciting stuff like this.

Nah barcodes were alwful

[Cripps_orig]

Tottenham pretty awesome today, once upon a time we played exciting stuff like this.

Wenger out.

Ade was a bit shit though admittedly, wouldnt you agree?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Adebayor is a very good striker.

He's also a twat

[Özim]

Ade was a bit shit though admittedly, wouldnt you agree?
Thought Saha was excellent, scored two goals today and played very well...looks like a good signing :lol:

As for Adebayor, I liked the bit after he scored his goal.

[alexander]

He's also a twat

A twitchy twat.

[Cripps_orig]

Thought Saha was excellent, scored two goals today and played very well...looks like a good signing :lol:

As for Adebayor, I liked the bit after he scored his goal.

:lol:

As a great man once said, you say it best when you say nothing at all

[Marc Overmars]

I wonder if City will sell him to Spurs though?

Surely they will prefer to flog him abroad.

[Cripps_orig]

Flog him to us

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I wonder if City will sell him to Spurs though?

Surely they will prefer to flog him abroad.

Spurs can't afford him well his wages arry has said as much.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

"I think the Golden Era of English players is over". When did it begin, Hansen?

[Özim]

I wonder if City will sell him to Spurs though?

Surely they will prefer to flog him abroad.

Doesn't matter where you flog him, he won't last more than a season there. That's his trademark.

[Marc Overmars]

Here we go :popcorn:

[Özim]

Here we go :popcorn:
Yeah that's right, that's what his agent says to him at the end of every season.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I wonder if City will sell him to Spurs though?

Surely they will prefer to flog him abroad.

They wouldn't be able to get wages subsidised then, so I doubt it. They'll probably take him on loan again though, unless Citeh get fed up with Dzeko.

Pearce. :lol: Nearly back to his old commentating days then.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Flog him to us

yep lets just give him the 150K a week wages he wants, not to remember RVP who hates ADE

[Cripps_orig]

Doesn't matter where you flog him, he won't last more than a season there. That's his trademark.True but what a season it would be should he come back home

Bigger than Henry coming back imo

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yeah that's right, that's what his agent says to him at the end of every season.

:lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Decent move there by Liverpool

Johnson just wide

[Özim]

True but what a season it would be should he come back home

Bigger than Henry coming back imo
Well I doubt it, Henry is a legend and scored a hatful of goals for us and won countless trophies. Adebayor doesn't have a hatful and we won nothing with him.

[Cripps_orig]

Great save Reina :bow:

best in England by a mile

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Evans' push on Suarez. :haha:

As effeminate as it gets.

[Özim]

:Eriksson: Hwayne HHHHrrrrrooooooooney :/Eriksson: got two goals in this one.

[Cripps_orig]

Thats a foul by Rio.

Went through Suarez to get the ball

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jose Enrique really did have a bit of a shocker.

[Cripps_orig]

You'd have thought with so many cameras at games today, they'd wise up and put one in the tunnel

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Where's Motson for the proper ROOOONEEEEEEEEYYYY treatment?

[Marc Overmars]

Spearing. :haha:

Wazza. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

You'd have thought with so many cameras at games today, they'd wise up and put one in the tunnel

Valencia v Inter. :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Spearing :haha:

Hauled off cos he was ugly.

[Cripps_orig]

Rio :lol:

Great defending

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Suarez only kissed his own wrist because he hadn't shook Evra's hand.

[Cripps_orig]

De Gea :bow:

Finally showing his worth and proving the faith me and Fergie have in him

[Marc Overmars]

Rafael copying Evra's celebration. :lol:

What a little chump.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fergie hadn't calmed down for his BBC interview then. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

BBC showing the Kenny sky interview :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They're showing Kenny's interview with Geoff Shreeves. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

MOTD referencing Sky! :o

[Cripps_orig]

MOTD referencing Sky! :oBBC :haha:

Thats why they are alwful these days

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Bad day for football?

It was a fucking handshake.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bad day for football?

It was a fucking handshake.

It wasn't.

[Cripps_orig]

Lineker asking the question if it could be the other way around

Thats why hes the best in the business

Sky presenters would never do that

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rio. :lol:

Doing his Kofi Kingston impression.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

It wasn't.

You know what I mean.

And if I may say so that was a bloody quick reply.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

You know what I mean.

And if I may say so that was a bloody quick reply.

:lol: I type quickly.

[Cripps_orig]

Everton v The Bulldozer up now

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton vs Chelsea on now. :popcorn:

[Marc Overmars]

Chavs on now. :rose:

[Cripps_orig]

Torres :haha:

Thought id get that out the way

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brilliant defending from Chelsea again.

Lampard. :haha:

Why does that dolt keep getting picked?

[Cripps_orig]

Didnt realise Gary Cahill was dropped for this :lol:

Great ball through by Lampard to Pienaar

[Marc Overmars]

Is Pienaar on loan or have they signed him?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good shot Frank, good thing 'Arry is his uncle really.

[Marc Overmars]

How long has AVB got left?

Managers before him have been sacked for a lot less than this.

After he's gone we should tap Mata up tbh.

[Cripps_orig]

Cashley :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

How long has AVB got left?

Managers before him have been sacked for a lot less than this.

After he's gone we should tap Mata up tbh.

Next 2 games id say.

Get knocked out of the Cup v whoever they face and lose to Napoli in the first leg and hes gone

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cech is so weak.

[Marc Overmars]

What a tackle that was from Neville. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Cechs a bit shit

[Cripps_orig]

We didnt hear the "You Dont Know What Youre Doing" chants :(

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cech. :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Its a shame Terry wasnt playing in this

[Marc Overmars]

Time for the main event.

[Cripps_orig]

We're on :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Donovan is very good, glad he'll be gone by the time we face them. Plus, Keane, Henry and Donovan all doing well since coming back to the Prem, all coming back from the MLS. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

O'Shea. :lol:

What a clogger.

[Cripps_orig]

That was a very good finish by the Pub Teamer

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mertesacker. :(

Went down like my picked horse at Aintree.

[Marc Overmars]

Merts, someone of your height shouldn't be trying stepovers.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey. :bow:

Better than Anderton's double post effort.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That was a brilliant cross from Arshavin.

[Cripps_orig]

That was a great cross from Arshavin

Henry couldnt miss

[McNamara That Ghost...]

MON. :lol:

You deserved it because you were as negative at home as twas ever thus against the top sides.

[Marc Overmars]

Henry. :bow:

Same time next year?

[Cripps_orig]

Henry. :bow:

Same time next year?Wasnt too happy that we got him back in January.

But its just kinda hit me now that we probably wont see him in our colours again. This guy is just immense.

As a great man once said, You Never Know What You've Had Til Its Gone

Thats how i feel atm

[Cripps_orig]

Good goal from Graham

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Is Pienaar on loan or have they signed him?

He's on loan i think they may sign him back in the summer though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Holt. :bow:

What a man.

[Marc Overmars]

Graham is a must get.

As is Holt.

[Cripps_orig]

Swansea fans :haha:

How stupid they must feel

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Put it away Holt. :sick:

[Cripps_orig]

How old is this Holt Pub Teamer?

[Cripps_orig]

What a shot by Naughton

What a save as well

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Blackeye up next, involved in their usual goalfest.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Class from Yakubu.

[Cripps_orig]

Yak :bow:

Feed the Yank and he will score

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a pub team special from Hoilett. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pedersen. :haha:

Worst shot ever.

[Cripps_orig]

Brilliant effort from Yak

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a goal from Mackie. :blink:

[Cripps_orig]

Great finish by Mackie for his 2nd

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bolton vs Wigan now.

[Marc Overmars]

Bolton fans are brave to keep turning up for home games.

[Cripps_orig]

Ryo is on

[McNamara That Ghost...]

A manager shouldn't have his football kit on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great wondergoal by Mark Davies.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How can Wigan be two points away from 16th? :wacko:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great save from Elmohamady to deny Ryo.

[Cripps_orig]

Brilliant from Al Habsi :bow:

Ryo misses a sitter

[Marc Overmars]

Wolves, Wigan and Bolton will go down I reckon.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fulham vs Scrote City on now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a strike from Pogrebnyak.

[Marc Overmars]

Great finish from Pog

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That was a shocker of a challenge from Pogrebnyak, good thing Pulis won't mention it though.

[Cripps_orig]

Progrebniak :bow:

More for the Shawcross impression than the goal

FFS thats a Dempsey goal

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Pulis to send a DVD to the FA :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And then Palacios scissors Dempsey.

Pulis is going to send a DVD of tackling to the FA?! :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Pulis will send a DVD of tackling to the FA :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Pulis. :haha:

He is mental.

[Cripps_orig]

"We won't be complaining. We're Stoke and we don't complain," Pulis told reporters

Pulis :haha:

Also Dempsey :doh:

[Marc Overmars]

We're Stoke and we don't complain. :angry:

[Marc Overmars]

Dempsey's open goal miss. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

First clip they show in the montage of what happened today is the non-handshake. :rolleyes:

Also, Pulis. :haha: Hope the FA send him a DVD back, one of football, or maybe rugby.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Puils is a tit tbh was not going on about dvd's when Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg did he.

as for Ivan Drago (Fulham russian) Needs to be careful ffs.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Evra wasn't enthusiastic about shaking hands, but you can't blame him given he's having to shake hands with someone who racially abused him. Anyway, if anyone could be excused not shaking hands it would be Evra. He was after-all the victim in this whole case, not Suarez. I've seen the clip again, and Evra does look like he's extended his hand and Suarez deliberately ignores it. With Rio you can see him actively looking to shake his hand, but Ferdinand ignores it, but with Evra he simply moves onto the next guy in line (De Gea)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u__SQfaf6H8&feature=player_embedded

I'm not a fan of Evra, but he's done nothing wrong throughout this episode IMO.


I don't have a problem with him not being enthusiastic about it. Suarez obviously wasn't either. I'm really not on board with all the moralists who place so much importance on that handshake. But afterwards, I think Evra was sly in portraying that he was in fact adamant on shaking Suarez's hand - with the arm grab - just to stir the pot. I thought it was very opportunist. Now he's emerging as some dignified hero.

[dazthegooner]

tbh Suarez did nothing wrong if he didn't want to shake his hand he doesn't have to if anything Evra should be charged with assulting him by grabbing his arm ;)

[Syn]

Evra was the bigger **** in all of this. Hope he's having sky diving lessons when Ramsey scores next.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm not sure he was though neither of them particularly ingratiated themselves by the end. Sure you don't have to shake somebody's hand if you don't want but the suggestion was that Suarez had said (I am guessing privately) that he would. Kenny got a bit confused in what he was saying post match though, probably through anger towards Geoff Shreeves. I think he thought Suarez was going to but didn't know that he actually hadn't, Suarez may have acted the bigger See You Next Tuesday because it's possible he acted against the wishes of his club.

[Ollie the Optimist]

dont think evra was taht wrong in celebrating, it didnt help but he had been to anfield and booed the whole time, had more racism thrown at him during that game (monkey impressions etc) booed the whole time and has liverpool going on about how suraez is victim and yet to recieve an apologly, yes he shouldnt have celebrated but in the circumstances its understandable. not right of course but you can see why.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sky's programme on soon. Wolves vs WBA should be a proper GHELfest; local derbies. :bow:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

They're both childish and pathetic. Evra was given the opportunity to react as he did and for that reason Suarez is an idiot. Frankly all the talk about the body language of who dropped their hand (of which I am guilty of as well) is clutching at straws and isn't helping things either.

What's worse though is the media reaction. It's been blown out of all proportion, whilst simultaneously covering over many, much worse, actions of ex and currant-United players.

Making this ridiculous handshake circus compulsory does nothing to promote respect. It only gets airtime when the players don't get on, like yesterday. Normally they're quick enough to go to the adverts, or a chance to show the teams.

[Ollie the Optimist]

They're both childish and pathetic. Evra was given the opportunity to react as he did and for that reason Suarez is an idiot. Frankly all the talk about the body language of who dropped their hand (of which I am guilty of as well) is clutching at straws and isn't helping things either.

What's worse though is the media reaction. It's been blown out of all proportion, whilst simultaneously covering over many, much worse, actions of ex and currant-United players.

Making this ridiculous handshake circus compulsory does nothing to promote respect. It only gets airtime when the players don't get on, like yesterday. Normally they're quick enough to go to the adverts, or a chance to show the teams.

handshake being comulsory as you say doesnt promote respect i get that. the question i have though is why did the fa cancel john terrys handshake and not this one? surely its both or none at all. no one covered themselves in glory but liverpool have been the worst throughout the whole affair, t shirts, statements etc. all could have been solved if first statement was we wont comment until we have report/evidence etc

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolverhampton: Hennessey, Foley, Johnson, Bassong, Ward, Doyle, Edwards, O'Hara, Jarvis, Ebanks-Blake, Fletcher.
Subs: De Vries, Stearman, Hunt, Berra, Hammill, Milijas, Jonsson.

West Brom: Foster, Reid, McAuley, Olsson, Ridgewell, Odemwingie, Morrison, Scharner, Mulumbu, Thomas, Fortune.
Subs: Fulop, Tchoyi, Andrews, Long, Dorrans, Jones, Cox.

Referee: Lee Mason (Lancashire)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They're both childish and pathetic. Evra was given the opportunity to react as he did and for that reason Suarez is an idiot. Frankly all the talk about the body language of who dropped their hand (of which I am guilty of as well) is clutching at straws and isn't helping things either.

What's worse though is the media reaction. It's been blown out of all proportion, whilst simultaneously covering over many, much worse, actions of ex and currant-United players.

Making this ridiculous handshake circus compulsory does nothing to promote respect. It only gets airtime when the players don't get on, like yesterday. Normally they're quick enough to go to the adverts, or a chance to show the teams.

It does seem contradictory they're saying "a line could've been drawn under it" yet are frothing at every opportunity of asking whoever they can about it. I mean, even on Sky's programme today they talked about the hullabaloo from yesterday before they talked about the game they are screening.

[Joker]

Evra was the bigger **** in all of this. Hope he's having sky diving lessons when Ramsey scores next.

How was he the bigger ****? He was the one who was racially abused by Suarez, and then got a lot of abuse at Anfield and had a fan make a money gesture at him. However, he got on with the game and didn't react. And anyway, why should Suarez have such an issue with shaking Evra's hand? He's not the victim in this, Evra is. If Evra didn't want to shake Suarez's hand, I'd bet people would be up in arms and claiming Evra's playing the race card and should man up and get on with the game.

This is not meant to be slur on Liverpool FC, as I have no problem with club or it's supporters at all. Looking back at the celebration of Evra, yes perhaps he was a bit OTT, but how Evra can be seen as having behaved worse is bizarre.

And it seems that Suarez had told Liverpool he would shake Evra's hand, so he's let the club down in that regard as well.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9070435/Liverpool-manager-Kenny-Dalglish-insists-that-Luis-Suarez-will-follow-etiquette-and-shake-Patrice-Evras-hand.html

“People are already speculating on the pre-match ceremony,” Dalglish said. “But from Luis’s point of view, we have spoken to him and I know he will shake the hand of Patrice Evra and the other Manchester United players before the game.”

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Evra was the bigger **** in all of this. Hope he's having sky diving lessons when Ramsey scores next.

We all know Evra is a ****, but Luiz who has been a prick since the world cup, showed once again how classess he really is and liverpool have no choice but to sell him for the sake of the clubs reputaion.

He agreed with his manager he shake hands and he never done it letting kenny down and LPFC down.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

handshake being comulsory as you say doesnt promote respect i get that. the question i have though is why did the fa cancel john terrys handshake and not this one? surely its both or none at all. no one covered themselves in glory but liverpool have been the worst throughout the whole affair, t shirts, statements etc. all could have been solved if first statement was we wont comment until we have report/evidence etc
Our PR team should be flogged and sacked there's no doubt about it. But you're right, it should have been cancelled yesterday. And altogether.

Maccy: Hypocrisy in the media? Surely not.

Joker: I'll hazard a guess that privately the club are disappointed with Suarez. Whether he wanted to or not, frankly I don't care. Anyone could predict the furore if he didn't do it. Edit: Actually I wasn't aware of that interview in the Telegraph; Suarez has made him look a bit foolish.

Either way, he'll be gone in the summer.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How was he the bigger ****? He was the one who was racially abused by Suarez, and then got a lot of abuse at Anfield and had a fan make a money gesture at him. However, he got on with the game and didn't react. And anyway, why should Suarez have such an issue with shaking Evra's hand? He's not the victim in this, Evra is. If Evra didn't want to shake Suarez's hand, I'd bet people would be up in arms and claiming Evra's playing the race card and should man up and get on with the game.

This is not meant to be slur on Liverpool FC, as I have no problem with club or it's supporters at all. Looking back at the celebration of Evra, yes perhaps he was a bit OTT, but how Evra can be seen as having behaved worse is bizarre.

And it seems that Suarez had told Liverpool he would shake Evra's hand, so he's let the club down in that regard as well.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9070435/Liverpool-manager-Kenny-Dalglish-insists-that-Luis-Suarez-will-follow-etiquette-and-shake-Patrice-Evras-hand.html

“People are already speculating on the pre-match ceremony,” Dalglish said. “But from Luis’s point of view, we have spoken to him and I know he will shake the hand of Patrice Evra and the other Manchester United players before the game.”

:lol: I said what I said not realising Kenny actually did come out and say Suarez would shake Evra's hand. There you go then, that shows why Suarez is getting rightly pilloried for it.

[Ernesto]

Should more be made of Rio Ferdinand not shaking Suarez' hand?

Since when did he become such an activist? Could not shaking hands with the Uruguayan also incite a riot? It seems it was a pre-meditated snub as well. My reasoning behind this is that he had such a short space of time to think (and I'm not actually sure Rio thinks at all) between Suarez not shaking hands with Evra and making an informed decision to withdraw his own hand.

He's a prat.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Should more be made of Rio Ferdinand not shaking Suarez' hand?

Since when did he become such an activist? Could not shaking hands with the Uruguayan also incite a riot? It seems it was a pre-meditated snub as well. My reasoning behind this is that he had such a short space of time to think (and I'm not actually sure Rio thinks at all) between Suarez not shaking hands with Evra and making an informed decision to withdraw his own hand.

He's a prat.

Its a Non issue though, Rio did not do it out of spite like suraez he did it because he did not like the way suarez went back on his word.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save from Hennessey to deny Thomas.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Should more be made of Rio Ferdinand not shaking Suarez' hand?

Since when did he become such an activist? Could not shaking hands with the Uruguayan also incite a riot? It seems it was a pre-meditated snub as well. My reasoning behind this is that he had such a short space of time to think (and I'm not actually sure Rio thinks at all) between Suarez not shaking hands with Evra and making an informed decision to withdraw his own hand.

He's a prat.

he would have shaken hands with him but he saw him ignore evra so decided not to shake a racists hand

[Ernesto]

Its a Non issue though, Rio did not do it out of spite like suraez he did it because he did not like the way suarez went back on his word.

It smooths relations, though. In my opinion, he's taking a really unnecessary "holier than thou" stance on hand-shaking. First Terry and now Suarez.

Like I say, it would've been really interesting to see how it would've panned out had Suarez shaken hands with Evra. Turdinand, I'm guessing, still wouldn't have offered his hand to Suarez, but I'm sure he wouldn't have got anywhere near the same backlash.

[Ernesto]

he would have shaken hands with him but he saw him ignore evra so decided not to shake a racists hand

I just don't think so. And, again, I'm second-guessing the actions of a moronic footballer who believes Twitter to be the pinnacle of social convention, but I think he's incapable of making such a split second decision. It was oly De Gea separating him and Evra in the line-up, after all.

Rio's dodged a bullet today, in my opinion.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Suarez deserves the flak given that assurance to Dalglish beforehand. Fair enough. Personally I still find the handshake a trivial thing that should be left to the players, but obviously Suarez didn't help his club at all. I still find the opportunism of Evra afterwards distasteful (and typical of him, I guess). I'd say he knew he was on a win-win.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It smooths relations, though. In my opinion, he's taking a really unnecessary "holier than thou" stance on hand-shaking. First Terry and now Suarez.

Like I say, it would've been really interesting to see how it would've panned out had Suarez shaken hands with Evra. Turdinand, I'm guessing, still wouldn't have offered his hand to Suarez, but I'm sure he wouldn't have got anywhere near the same backlash.

Well he wouldn't have got the same 'backlash' because he wasn't the one found guilty of racially abusing another player - the onus is on Suarez to show contrition, especially when his club is under the impression that he would. If you're right about Rio not thinking about things too much then it's entirely possible withdrawing his hand was a snap reaction to what he saw.

[Ernesto]

I just can't believe BBC's Match of the Day decided to use footage from Sky to gauge Kenny Dalglish's reaction to the non-handshake.

Since when has that ever happened before? It's ridiculous.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I just don't think so. And, again, I'm second-guessing the actions of a moronic footballer who believes Twitter to be the pinnacle of social convention, but I think he's incapable of making such a split second decision. It was oly De Gea separating him and Evra in the line-up, after all.

Rio's dodged a bullet today, in my opinion.

dont agree wit this, he has seen his captain and his brother be racially abused so he was right not to shake terrys hand (if thats true, i didnt see it) i think he was prepared to put this aside if sureaez shook hands but he didnt, rio ignored him on principle i think after that and rightly so

[Ollie the Optimist]

I just can't believe BBC's Match of the Day decided to use footage from Sky to gauge Kenny Dalglish's reaction to the non-handshake.

Since when has that ever happened before? It's ridiculous.

why is it? the sky interview was brilliant and really had dalglish on the rocks. maybe he didnt acutally speak to bbc either

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I can't say if he spoke to them or not but Lineker did say he refused to talk about that incident to the BBC. Can't see the problem, they'd only have read out what he had said anyway, like they did for Fergie's reaction(s) when he wouldn't speak to them.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Suarez deserves the flak given that assurance to Dalglish beforehand. Fair enough. Personally I still find the handshake a trivial thing that should be left to the players, but obviously Suarez didn't help his club at all. I still find the opportunism of Evra afterwards distasteful (and typical of him, I guess). I'd say he knew he was on a win-win.
This.

I didn't realise Dalglish had come out and said he would do it; he's made him look like an idiot. I still think Evra was just as childish, knew he would get away with any reaction and the media reaction is over the top, but the whole thing is so inevitable it's just as annoying as anything else. And once again we as a club look foolish.

[Ernesto]

Well he wouldn't have got the same 'backlash' because he wasn't the one found guilty of racially abusing another player - the onus is on Suarez to show contrition, especially when his club is under the impression that he would. If you're right about Rio not thinking about things too much then it's entirely possible withdrawing his hand was a snap reaction to what he saw.

We're kinda singing off the same hymn sheet here. He wouldn't have got the same backlash, mainly to do with the fact that it was only about Luis Suarez, Pat Rice Evra and the underlying race row. That we can agree on.

It's just that by snubbing Suarez, Ferdinand made himself an attention-seeker, made himself part of the story and was suddenly considered one of the pre-match handshake 'protagonists'. He could've done a little more to defuse the situation, but that's just me, I suppose.

[Cripps_orig]

Kenny did speak to the BBC but refused to speak about the incident and Jonathan Pearce/Pierce whatever being too much a pussy didnt ask him about it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Another great save from Hennessey to deny Scharner this time.

[Cripps_orig]

And once again we as a club look foolish.Tbf, all the YNWA stuff already does that ;)

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Tbf, all the YNWA stuff already does that ;)
<_<

Point taken.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

O'Hara gives Scharner a good kicking. And gets booked for it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It smooths relations, though. In my opinion, he's taking a really unnecessary "holier than thou" stance on hand-shaking. First Terry and now Suarez.

Like I say, it would've been really interesting to see how it would've panned out had Suarez shaken hands with Evra. Turdinand, I'm guessing, still wouldn't have offered his hand to Suarez, but I'm sure he wouldn't have got anywhere near the same backlash.

He's have no reason not to shake his hands if that was the case, it be silly. End of the day he saw what suraez did, and it went from there.

[Ernesto]

why is it? the sky interview was brilliant and really had dalglish on the rocks. maybe he didnt acutally speak to bbc either

When have the BBC ever used footage from Sky before, this is what I'm asking....

When you consider the context and the consequence, it seems like needless media attention, all in all. It smacks of 'we want to see what Kenny Dalglish makes of a handshake that never happened, as opposed to what he thought about 90 minutes of football'. Am I the only one who thinks that is ridiculous?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Kenny did speak to the BBC but refused to speak about the incident and Jonathan Pearce/Pierce whatever being too much a pussy didnt ask him about it

He refused because all this problem could have been solved a long ago, had he done what was right, instead of protecting that racist prick. and making the world thing it was pool against the world etc.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves 0-1 WBA, Odemwingie!

Poor old Hennessey. :haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

1-0 Odemwinge

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Suarez:"I have spoken with the Manager since the game at Old Trafford and I realise I got things wrong.

"I've not only let him down, but also the Club and what it stands for and I'm sorry. I made a mistake and I regret what happened.

"I should have shaken Patrice Evra's hand before the game and I want to apologise for my actions.

"I would like to put this whole issue behind me and concentrate on playing football."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/luis-suarez-i-m-sorry

Finally. And that's all it needed. I doubt the media will consider it 'dealt with' now though, even though they suggested they would but at least that part of the mess is sorted.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves 1-1 WBA, Fletcher! Great finish.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

We should have made that type of statement months ago!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 HT.

[Dennis Bendtner]

That does explain the spiky Shreeves interview then, if he didn't know the handshake didn't happen. Then again, Dalglish's interviews are hardly joyous at the best of times. Maybe the yanks are fed up.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.

"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/ian-ayre-luis-was-wrong

:cold:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves 1-2 WBA, Olsson! Another shocker from Hennessey, although he wasn't helped by that brainless oaf O'Hara.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/ian-ayre-luis-was-wrong

:cold:

:lol: I wasn't expecting that. And on the club website too.

Suarez. :wave:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save by Foster to deny Fetcher's looping header.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves hit the bar! :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Odemwingie with great skill to get in on goal and then goes completely tame in his finishing, cleared off the line.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Some on RAWK are saying Yanks Out! :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Thomas off, Cox on.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Some on RAWK are saying Yanks Out! :haha:

Really

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves 1-3 WBA, Odemwingie again!

[Cripps_orig]

Woy :bow:

Mick :wave:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Some on RAWK are saying Yanks Out! :haha:
And Ayre.

They're a complete joke. It's self parody now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves. :lol:

A shambles without Pingpong.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And Ayre.

They're a complete joke. It's self parody now.

Who is the editor for the official website? He can't be a Liverpool supporter.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Who is the editor for the official website? He can't be a Liverpool supporter.

I have an image that clearly shows Ferguson at his computer :ninja:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wolves 1-4 WBA, Andrews! What a hammering. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-5, Odemwingie hat-trick. :haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sam matterface

"Its Wolverhampton 1 west brom 0" :doh:

[Marc Overmars]

Wolves. :haha:

So Suarez has been condemed by his own club? Thought as much seeing as he's the guilty party in all of this and Evra is innocent. Hopefully Liverpool follow the sound advice Fergie gave yesterday and sell him in the summer.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wolves. :haha:

So Suarez has been condemed by his own club? Thought as much seeing as he's the guilty party in all of this and Evra is innocent. Hopefully Liverpool follow the sound advice Fergie gave yesterday and they sell him in the summer.

:gp:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Two Wolves supporters having a go at each other. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

BBC Update still has it at 14.40 for me

[Dennis Bendtner]

This will leave scars for Wolves. They're in trouble. Wouldn't be a surprise if Bert gets sacked.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-5 FT. :haha:

McCarthy, off you pop. :wave:

[Marc Overmars]

Clubs who get beaten 5-1 in a local derby. :haha:





Oh...

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

BBC SPORT Technical problems are affecting our live text commentaries - we are trying to rectify this

:doh:

The updated site is fantastic.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Wolves' owner stormed into the dressing room after a loss to Liverpool. A home pounding by local relegation rivals? Mick is definitely screwed.

[Cripps_orig]

Has anyone sent a message to the bbc live update and told them the new look sucks?

[Cripps_orig]

Blackburn out of the relegation zone

Kean :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Has anyone sent a message to the bbc live update and told them the new look sucks?

I daresay there would've been many complaints if the Points of View board is anything to go by, bet they all got the same automated response, too.

Also, back to manual text commentary. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aston Villa: Given, Hutton, Dunne, Collins, Cuellar, Petrov, Albrighton, Gardner, Keane, Bent, Heskey.
Subs: Guzan, Warnock, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Bannan, Weimann, Baker.

Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Lescott, Kolarov, Barry, De Jong, Milner, Silva, Johnson, Aguero.
Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Pizarro, Dzeko, Savic, Nasri, Clichy.

Referee: Michael Oliver (Northumberland)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nasri. :lol:

Could've been oh so different.

Also, Gary Neville is co-commentating. :popcorn:

[Joker]

Heskey playing right midfield? :blink:

[Coney]

Has anyone sent a message to the bbc live update and told them the new look sucks?

Yes.
They sent a reply showing the URL for their help and info stuff. Basic translation of their message was 'fuck off, we'll do what we like'.

[Coney]

Heskey playing right midfield? :blink:

Well, right midfield. Not sure about the 'playing' bit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aguero hits it well, straight at Given though.

[Dennis Bendtner]

Just saw on SSN that Dalglish apologised for the Shreeves interview. I'm pretty sure the Yanks have kicked some arse here. This is a bit too civil...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd have accepted their apology.


Manchester United thanks Liverpool for the apologies issued following Saturday's game.

Everyone at Old Trafford wants to move on from this. The history of our two great clubs is one of success and rivalry unparalleled in British football.

That should be the focus in the future of all those who love the clubs.

Short and sweet. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tame shot from David Silva.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Heskey. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Some viewers are finding it hard to discern between the two shirts. :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Heskey covering at right back. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milner. :wacko: Should've struck it first time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Johnson hits the post!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This performance from Villa isn't going to dissuade the protests against McLeish, they can't have struck ten passes together once.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Collins vs Aguero, it's not even slightly fair. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 HT.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tevez is back at Citeh on Tuesday. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

God know how Citeh aren't winning.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Petrov booked.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Villa 0-1 Citeh, Lescott. It had been coming for 62 minutes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Heskey hauled off, N'Zogbia on.

Dunne was booked earlier.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Streaker on the pitch? :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Albrighton off, Ireland on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Johnson off, Nasri on.

[Master Splinter]

Cuellar should have scored.

Villa should just have beeen pumping balls into the box all match.

[Master Splinter]

What a save from Hart!

Villa could have won the game 2-1.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gary Neville names Barry MotM, that says it all.

[Master Splinter]

Dunne looks hurt.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Possible dislocated shoulder for Dunne there if not an injury to his collarbone.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 FT. So poor.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Villa need to be careful tbh, could be in the relegation fight soon enogh

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Big 'Eck is fast becoming the Nigel Quashie of management.

[Master Splinter]

McLeish :haha:.

Yanks out tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

McLeish :haha:.

Yanks out tbh.

Funnily enough all the clubs under yank ownership seem to or have been dire this season lol

[Dennis Bendtner]

We basically got McLeish the Villa job.

Oh dear. He is awful.

[Master Splinter]

ts fucking frustrating McLeish has decided its time to attack now. This could have been won. Fucking knob jockey


Amazing what happens when you have a go. McLeish you ballbag.


Why not attack earlier you complete word removed Mcleish!!


McLeish out. Fucking bell end.

VillaTalk :bow:.

Spot-on as always.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Big 'Eck thought the gameplan was spot on, they were just unlucky. :wacko: He goes on to say the performance was decent and the discipline of the players was exemplary. I suppose he has to say that because they're so obviously playing in the way that he wants.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Big eck to take another brum club down

[Cripps_orig]

MANCHESTER UNITED'S tunnel bust-up with Liverpool on Saturday was sparked by a spitting storm.

United keeper David De Gea was spat at as he walked to the Old Trafford dressing room at half-time.

Players from both sides had to be parted by stewards as the explosive confrontation threatened to escalate into a full-on brawl.

Police became involved in an effort to calm tensions and keep the feuding sides apart following an explosive first 45 minutes, which saw Luis Suarez refuse to shake the hand of Patrice Evra before kick-off.

It is unclear who was responsible for the spitting but a source said: "De Gea was making his way to the tunnel and was clearly shocked to be spat at.

"Obviously the players reacted angrily and both teams became involved, before stewards managed to quieten it down."

Tempers were frayed again at the end of United's 2-1 victory when Liverpool substitute Craig Bellamy got involved in a confrontation with the Old Trafford head of security as players left the pitch.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4124704/Utd-spit-row-sparked-bust-up.html

Diouf might not play for Liverpool anymore but his spirit lives on

As for Bellamy :doh:

Has there been a bigger twat in football?

[GP]

Mick McCarthy sacked :lol:

[Flavs]

not surprising really i thought Coyle would be sacked today as well and then they would just swap over

[Flavs]

you know we should just have a managers thread. In fact...