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Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:37 PM
Good win, lads did us proud tbh could not ask for more then that tbh.

Boss
06-03-2012, 09:38 PM
Proud of everyone in the red and white.

Unlucky not to go through.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
06-03-2012, 09:39 PM
fucking shocking.

van persie you fucking twat. arrogance getting to you now eh? scored shitloads and decide TO CHIP THE FUCKING KEEPER FROM 1 YARD OUT?! fucking tosser.

wenger can fuck off too. its times like this our continual underinvestment in the squad shows up. WHO THE FUCK DID WE HAVE ON OUR BENCH? CHAMAKH? PARK? FUCKING USELESS.

shocking that we couldnt score in the 2nd half against a shite milan team.

wenger, do the honourable thing, and fuck off.

Coney
06-03-2012, 09:39 PM
Respectable. At least we went for it and we didn't even concede. Tantalisingly close.

Cripps_orig
06-03-2012, 09:39 PM
Dont know what to say really.

Rors
06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
Todd Grisham ‏ @GrishamESPN
Great game..brave effort. Arsenal nearly pulled off the impossible. Oh well...if you missed it we'll have highlights @ESPNEWS tonight at 11

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Dog Toffee
06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
Fucking Raping shit Fuck **** b0llockz SOOOO CLOSE FUCK ALL THE DISBELIEVERS

Asthmatic Kitty
06-03-2012, 09:40 PM
amazing first half performance, shocking second half performance.

we are the perennial nearly men, so frustrating we can't kill teams off.

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhh

think we would've done it if oxo cube didn't get injured. where was benayoun btw? injured?

Master Splinter
06-03-2012, 09:41 PM
Terrible miss from RVP. Sell him tbh.


First half brilliant. Second half was affected by injuries and tiredness. And of course the second most corrupt ref in Europe.

Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rosicky, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Sagna all brilliant.

Time to batter Newcastle. If we have eleven players fit.

Dennis Bendtner
06-03-2012, 09:41 PM
Yep. Well done all.

I think Van Persie's miss definitely hit him hard. Very subdued after that. Hope he doesn't dwell on it from here.

Song, Walcott etc made mistakes going forward in the second half with the passing, but that panicking is not surprising when the goal is really needed. The freedom in the first half was because we needed four.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-03-2012, 09:41 PM
Gallant losers. :bow:

It'll endear us to the media because that's what Britain does best.

Rors
06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
Taken on individual and collective merits, you edged it over both legs (Milan by far the better side first leg, but you a couple of universes superior this time out). Came down to a lack of steady finishing in the end.

gunnerrrrr
06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
We have two of the best young footballers in the world in Whilshire and someone who may be even better in Oxo.

RVP im gutted for you......but what a miss son.

Rosicky has been the players we all thought we were getting.

Kos is one of the best defenders in the Prem.

Gibbs is awful, as is our bench...truly shocking options.

Proud of being a gooners but gutted as fuck.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
1st half
Brilliant. Absolutle class, bossed them and fully deserved our lead.

2nd half
We didn't create much and never really played at the same intensity as we did in the first half. But saying that, RVP had an amazing chance, can't believe he didn't smash it. Can't fault the effort, we just ran out of steam in the end, Oxlade picking up a knock was the turning point, and then Theo going off pretty much ended our chances of stretching them IMO.

Great effort, pride well and truly restored. :scarf:

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
Think it be easier to take if we won the game 2-0 but hey thats the Pussy's way of thinking.

players should take heart from this onto the Newcastle game we go.

tigerthesmurf85
06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
Very proud of the boys tonight!!!

First half was a brilliant performance. Sadly with Chamberlain getting injured we lost our control of the game. Still Well done.

Terrible Ref.

3rd place?

Dog Toffee
06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
shit

(I discovered the size button, it rules)

Dennis Bendtner
06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
Purely a side note, but Ibrahimovic gave one of the worst performances I've ever seen.

Joker
06-03-2012, 09:44 PM
WTF was RVP doing with the fucking chip? What a twat, you showboat when you're 5-0 up FFS

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
06-03-2012, 09:44 PM
where the fuck was the urgency in the 2nd half? why the fuck did we sit back? WE HAD THEM ON THE BACK FOOT FFS.

man utd would have murdered that team. they would have scored 8 past them.

but then again fergie's a world class manager and wengers fucking shit.

why the fuck are our players made of feathers? ox kicked the AIR and done his hamstring in??!! fuckin useless. if they get injured all the time whats the point in having them.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:44 PM
Purely a side note, but Ibrahimovic gave one of the worst performances I've ever seen.

Thats why he never does trials.

Globalgunner
06-03-2012, 09:44 PM
Great effort but so typical of us under Wenger. All he seems capable of is keeping us in aholding pattern. Our collapses are predictable and reliable. Sure we can keep him, but we sure as hell wont make any progress under him anymore. Whats left for us now. Spud hunting!!!

selassie
06-03-2012, 09:45 PM
You can't fault the lads for trying and that first half was the best I've seen us play this season by quite a distance.

Shame we couldn't finish them off but we ran out of steam in the end IMHO.

Hope Ox & Theo are OK, we need them for the run in.

Power n Glory
06-03-2012, 09:45 PM
Injuries and the team froze up once the pressure was on. Story of our season. But some good individual performances and a brave team effort. Our team is down to the bare bones now. Chamakh and Park were never going to do shit.

Cripps_orig
06-03-2012, 09:45 PM
You can't fault the lads for trying and that first half was the best I've seen us play this season by quite a distance.

Shame we couldn't finish them off but we ran out of steam in the end IMHO.

Hope Ox & Theo are OK, we need them for the run in.Run in for what exactly?

We have 11 friendlies left.

Bring on the Euros tbh

Boss
06-03-2012, 09:46 PM
Can't believe people are raging after a 3-0 win against the Italian champions :lol:

Calm down, we played well and were unlucky not to qualify.

selassie
06-03-2012, 09:46 PM
Run in for what exactly?

We have 11 friendlies left.

Bring on the Euros tbh

Top 4, it's a trophy dontcha know? :scarf:

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
06-03-2012, 09:47 PM
'judge me at the end of the season'

no silverware. shit season. turned into an embarressment.

hope wenger goes.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-03-2012, 09:47 PM
Top 4, it's a trophy dontcha know? :scarf:

So is our stadium. Well so, Martin Tyler said. :bow:

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 09:47 PM
It was also a shame Song had to start smoking his weed again.

He was wank.

GP
06-03-2012, 09:47 PM
Can't believe people are raging after a 3-0 win against the Italian champions :lol:

Calm down, we played well and were unlucky not to qualify.

Pretty much.

Niall_Quinn
06-03-2012, 09:47 PM
Wiped the floor with those greasy cheats. Great performance, understandably ran out of steam. A couple of misses cost us but how bad are Milan in front of goal, lol? We probably would have shipped a couple against a half decent team. Game changed when Ox was injured. Hope the damage isn't too bad. Ref was the most blatant cheat since the chavs/ bar****s game. Scandalous but that's what you get with uefa. Might be the best thing going out of this having finally played well, we can concentrate on chasing down and burying the scum.

Niall_Quinn
06-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Purely a side note, but Ibrahimovic gave one of the worst performances I've ever seen.

Thought it was one of his better games, he pulled of at least ten ridiculous dives and got FKs for all of them.

She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
06-03-2012, 09:49 PM
only good thing that has come from this is we are out of all competitions.

now wenger can FUCK OFF.

Joker
06-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Our lack of quality in the squad was shown up over the two legs. We had a few injuries in the first leg, and produced an abomination of a performance. And tonight, after expending so much energy in the first 60 minutes, it would have been ideal to bring on some top quality players from the bench so that we could regain our momentum. Instead, the game fizzled out. This is a mediocre Milan team, and the reality is that we've lost 4-3 on aggregate, which is pathetic.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-03-2012, 09:50 PM
Lost 4-3 on aggregate for the second season in a row. :lol:

:(

Dennis Bendtner
06-03-2012, 09:51 PM
Disappointed with Wenger's subs to be honest. On the face of it yes, they are strikers. But they really aren't strikers.

Wanted Oguyogurt on. It might have helped us in midfield where we got gradually worse in the second half. He is a neat player. I'm pretty sure he was set to come on at one point. Sticking a lamppost next to RVP was not going to work.

Oh well.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:51 PM
Great effort but so typical of us under Wenger. All he seems capable of is keeping us in aholding pattern. Our collapses are predictable and reliable. Sure we can keep him, but we sure as hell wont make any progress under him anymore. Whats left for us now. Spud hunting!!!

Nah Wenger got it right today, not his fault Ox and Theo went off when they did or the fact we missed Benny, Ramsey and Mikel tbh. We were just unlucky today.

Niall_Quinn
06-03-2012, 09:51 PM
WTF was RVP doing with the fucking chip? What a twat, you showboat when you're 5-0 up FFS

He was trying to do what he has done 35 times already this season, score. So he finally missed one. What a massive ****! Sell him.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 09:51 PM
Classic WUMger, getting our hopes up like that. :bow:

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:52 PM
Can't believe people are raging after a 3-0 win against the Italian champions :lol:

Calm down, we played well and were unlucky not to qualify.

Are you new here.

same people who slagged the team off this morning are the same ones who are moaning we went out when they said we would.

leaf
06-03-2012, 09:52 PM
tonights performance should give us a boost for remaining games to catch the scum,watching milan in front line is laughable,shows how bad we were in first leg

Cripps_orig
06-03-2012, 09:53 PM
Half time cost us the match

What we needed was for our players to stay away from Wenger and half time denied us that.

His team talk has done its work well

Also RVP :doh:

Just blast it you ****. The arrogance is pathetic. Youre not that good.

Said in the match thread to keep it 2-0 at half time and then show some urgency in the 2nd half. However we got the 3rd before half time, the urgency was gone and it turned out to be a damp squib.

Gubby Allen
06-03-2012, 09:53 PM
He was trying to do what he has done 35 times already this season, score. So he finally missed one. What a massive ****! Sell him.

If you're going to dwell on that, then you have to on the Milan miss too, which was as bad & why the twat tried to kick it with his right foot I've no idea.

Joker
06-03-2012, 09:53 PM
He was trying to do what he has done 35 times already this season, score. So he finally missed one. What a massive ****! Sell him.

All he had to do was place it to one side of the keeper. It was not the time for arrogance, if he had missed because of an aberration, fair enough it can happen but you can't do that when we're trailing 4-3 on aggregate. It's like trying to chip a penalty in a shootout, an experienced professional footballer should not do that.

Niall_Quinn
06-03-2012, 09:53 PM
We keep playing like we have in the last two weeks and we'll catch the (banned word)s. that's all that counts this season.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-03-2012, 09:53 PM
Disappointed with Wenger's subs to be honest. On the face of it yes, they are strikers. But they really aren't strikers.

Wanted Oguyogurt on. It might have helped us in midfield where we got gradually worse in the second half. He is a neat player. I'm pretty sure he was set to come on at one point. Sticking a lamppost next to RVP was not going to work.

Oh well.

It was like the FA Cup semi-final against Man Utd, just threw strikers on - makes it so much easier to defend against but then, we were left with Djourou being one of the few remaining attacking options.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:54 PM
Run in for what exactly?

We have 11 friendlies left.Bring on the Euros tbh

You wern't saying that after the pool game.

latewinner
06-03-2012, 09:54 PM
Great effort but disappointing. When it was virtually impossible to win we bang in 3 goals in the first half. When we need just one goal we create nothing except for the one chance missed by RVP. Everything was set up to just bombard them with pressure and we didnt . Gutted.

Niall_Quinn
06-03-2012, 09:54 PM
All he had to do was place it to one side of the keeper. It was not the time for arrogance, if he had missed because of an aberration, fair enough it can happen but you can't do that when we're trailing 4-3 on aggregate. It's like trying to chip a penalty in a shootout, an experienced professional footballer should not do that.

We need to get you in there for the next game.

Cripps_orig
06-03-2012, 09:54 PM
You wern't saying that after the pool game.Thats cos we were still in the CL :unsure:

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:55 PM
Half time cost us the match

What we needed was for our players to stay away from Wenger and half time denied us that.

His team talk has done its work well

Also RVP :doh:

Just blast it you ****. The arrogance is pathetic. Youre not that good.Said in the match thread to keep it 2-0 at half time and then show some urgency in the 2nd half. However we got the 3rd before half time, the urgency was gone and it turned out to be a damp squib.


:haha:

Coney
06-03-2012, 09:55 PM
Can't believe people are raging after a 3-0 win against the Italian champions :lol:

Calm down, we played well and were unlucky not to qualify.

Yeah - we played a poor first leg, but taking Milan close to ET after 4-0 down is respectable.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 09:56 PM
Thats cos we were still in the CL :unsure:

and we had no chance of going through even at 4-0 we'd have no chance if milan scored 1.

The damage was done before this game, and seeeing the subs before this game it was never going to go our way.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 09:57 PM
Said in the match thread to keep it 2-0 at half time and then show some urgency in the 2nd half. However we got the 3rd before half time, the urgency was gone and it turned out to be a damp squib.

Yeah, in a perverse way I think it might have been better mentality at 2-0, in that we still would have had some chasing to do. 3-0 all but levelled the game out and that probably explains the drop in intensity. A shame we couldn't go up a gear again, but there you go.

All the problems were created ourselves 3 weeks ago anyway, tonight was about restoring pride and we have done that.

Globalgunner
06-03-2012, 09:57 PM
Nah Wenger got it right today, not his fault Ox and Theo went off when they did or the fact we missed Benny, Ramsey and Mikel tbh. We were just unlucky today.
I promise you Charlie. This time next year, we`ll be singing the exact same song. just like last, and the year before, ........you get my drift.

Joker
06-03-2012, 09:58 PM
oh shut up little boy.

out of all competitions, let's celebrate :haha:

Let's not lose sight of the fact that this season is going to be another failure. Out of the UCL in the 2nd round against an average Milan team, out in the FA Cup in the 5th round against a mid table Sunderland team, failure in the Carling Cup and the only thing we have to "look forward" to is 4th place AGAIN. Wenger said two seasons ago, "judge me at the end of the season" and he felt the squad he had created were capable of winning trophies. That didn't materialise, he loaned out a lot of the deadwood at the start of the season, and what's happened is that we've regressed as a club from that time.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-03-2012, 09:58 PM
So RVP had a Bendtner moment, I think he can probably be afforded a little bit of latitude. He could've ballsed up the pelanty but he didn't, let alone thinking about the rest of the season and what he has contributed.

Coney
06-03-2012, 09:58 PM
only good thing that has come from this is we are out of all competitions.


Are we bollocks. We are still leading in the 4th place trophy league.

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/ts_magazine_big_picture/TinPotTrophy.JPG

Gubby Allen
06-03-2012, 09:59 PM
Can't complain too much, we were between poor and woeful in three of four halves. Milan won't go much further though.

They may as well write '3' on the 2nd half injury time boards. You get no minutes or twelve, it still says three. Walcott was down for over a minute - only 3:00 exactly was played so had he not gone down, would the board have said '1'?

Bollocks would it. It'd still said three. Ibrahimovic's arse cheeks could've fell off and he bled to death on the pitch over the next four days & it will have still have said '3' when jobsworth brought the board out.

Don't matter though, we were gone by an hour and with our subs & Song's passing there were no more goals in us.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:00 PM
I promise you Charlie. This time next year, we`ll be singing the exact same song. just like last, and the year before, ........you get my drift.

We very well may who knows, tonight was about restoring pride and the lads did that. Had they scored 1 we'd have probs gone out anyway, is it frustating yes, was it a shock we went out no, this moring if i said we'd be 3-0 up with 10 mins to go We'd all have laughed and said forget about it.

We gave a good effort tonight and restored some pride im happy.

Master Splinter
06-03-2012, 10:00 PM
I think Abbiati saved six times from RVP over the two legs.

Most of them were very good saves as well.

Credit to Abbiati really.

Gubby Allen
06-03-2012, 10:02 PM
We keep playing like we have in the last two weeks and we'll catch the (banned word)s. that's all that counts this season.

You'd rather come 5th and them 6th - or us 4th and them 3rd?

Not saying I have an answer. Need time to think about it.

Power n Glory
06-03-2012, 10:03 PM
We still needed two goals to win that tie and we simply lost our way after half time. RVP could have scored but we could have froze up gone to extra time and still lose. We needed to keep that attacking pressure on to win that tie and as Syn said, we went in a half time and started to over think things.

Also, the injuries and weak bench didn't help matters. Theo and Ox's injuries just took the wind out of us. Gervinho is shit and there was no point in bringing on Park and Chamakh.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:03 PM
Let's not lose sight of the fact that this season is going to be another failure. Out of the UCL in the 2nd round against an average Milan team, out in the FA Cup in the 5th round against a mid table Sunderland team, failure in the Carling Cup and the only thing we have to "look forward" to is 4th place AGAIN. Wenger said two seasons ago, "judge me at the end of the season" and he felt the squad he had created were capable of winning trophies. That didn't materialise, he loaned out a lot of the deadwood at the start of the season, and what's happened is that we've regressed as a club from that time.

No sure why your moaning we were out the CL when we lost in milan as you said, did not see you moaning when we beat spuds and pool and calling the season a failure.

We may not have won the but the lads done as fecking proud today.

Dennis Bendtner
06-03-2012, 10:04 PM
It was like the FA Cup semi-final against Man Utd, just threw strikers on - makes it so much easier to defend against but then, we were left with Djourou being one of the few remaining attacking options.

Yeah. Putting strikers on purely because they are strikers. Doesn't work when they're of this calibre.

Our academy shits out players comfortable in possession. As the only midfielder, Ozyakup was the obvious change when Oxo went off. We lost control after that. We aren't a team accustomed to changing shape much any more anyway, not that radically anyway.

Coney
06-03-2012, 10:04 PM
You'd rather come 5th and them 6th - or us 4th and them 3rd?

Not saying I have an answer. Need time to think about it.

Tough but I think us 5th, though other than chavs, who would be the other 3rd/5th team.

Reason is that the board need a the shock of no CL football to make them spend. If they WERE going to spend, then 4th please.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 10:06 PM
If anything tonight showed that we need to bolster our forward options. Absolute facepalm when Chamakh and Park come on to try and raise and tempo and salvage something, no one is going to be inspired by that.

Joker
06-03-2012, 10:07 PM
The problem was that we lost the midfield in the 2nd half, and it became extremely scrappy. Without AOC injured, we had only two in there, and Song was having one of those days and Rosicky looked shattered.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 10:08 PM
Thought Neville was excellent tonight as well.

Best pundit in the business.

Coney
06-03-2012, 10:08 PM
If anything tonight showed that we need to bolster our forward options. Absolute facepalm when Chamakh and Park come on to try and raise and tempo and salvage something, no one is going to be inspired by that.

I guess they had their death or glory chance tonight. Do something special while you have the chance, or piss off at the end of the season. The appear to have chosen the latter.

Power n Glory
06-03-2012, 10:08 PM
The problem was that we lost the midfield in the 2nd half, and it became extremely scrappy. Without AOC injured, we had only two in there, and Song was having one of those days and Rosicky looked shattered.

Song started believing the hype and player some awful passes. Needs a slap for going for glory in the last few minutes.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:08 PM
If anything tonight showed that we need to bolster our forward options. Absolute facepalm when Chamakh and Park come on to try and raise and tempo and salvage something, no one is going to be inspired by that.

Yeah agree, we need a new striker or a couple and that ACM to replace nasri and MC to replace Cesc.

Dennis Bendtner
06-03-2012, 10:08 PM
If anything tonight showed that we need to bolster our forward options. Absolute facepalm when Chamakh and Park come on to try and raise and tempo and salvage something, no one is going to be inspired by that.

Poldi bhai. :bow:

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:10 PM
I guess they had their death or glory chance tonight. Do something special while you have the chance, or piss off at the end of the season. The appear to have chosen the latter.

TBF Park had like 10 mins and was never going to do anything really if were honest and neither was chamahk tbh.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 10:10 PM
Song started believing the hype and player some awful passes. Needs a slap for going for glory in the last few minutes.

Yeah he was shite, he has these games once a month where he consistently gives the ball away cheaply and then commits the predictable foul trying to win it back.

Globalgunner
06-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Our problems remain. We need better quality both on the pitch and on the bench.We need another striker...who can score. not these masquerades like Chamak and Park. I hope the rumours about Podolski are true but we need to add to the midfield and let the weeds go. Sentiments aside, we need to release Rosicky, Djorou and co. They are taking up the place of good players, not to mention Squid Bentner etc, who should jettisoned with ultimate predjudice ASAP.

Coney
06-03-2012, 10:12 PM
Poldi bhai. :bow:

Is that Azerbaijani for "sell this shit, spend some money and buy some strikers who can put the ball in the fucking net"? If so ....:good:

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 10:12 PM
We ultimately paid the price for the embarrassing shambles of a first leg. The feeling among the vast majority of us was it was pretty much nailed on we were going out - but we got a great reaction from the players and while it hurts, I think we'll remember this night for some time.

They gave it everything, and when the starting 11 could give no more, there was no one on that bench to help them.

GunnerFan4Life
06-03-2012, 10:13 PM
Little Mozart is certainly back.

Koscielny is certainly boss.

Chez is certainly God.

Oxlade Chamberlain is certainly as good as me.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 10:15 PM
It was a shame Benayoun didn't make it, his work rate would have been perfect tonight.

Gah.

Just wasn't meant to be.

Roll on Newcastle.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:16 PM
We ultimately paid the price for the embarrassing shambles of a first leg. The feeling among the vast majority of us was it was pretty much nailed on we were going out - but we got a great reaction from the players and while it hurts, I think we'll remember this night for some time.

They gave it everything, and when the starting 11 could give no more, there was no one on that bench to help them.

Pretty much, I can understand frustation, but for people to say RVP is shit etc, is just rediculas tbh.

Dennis Bendtner
06-03-2012, 10:18 PM
Is that Azerbaijani for "sell this shit, spend some money and buy some strikers who can put the ball in the fucking net"? If so ....:good:

Nearly. But yes, we have very unfortunate striker depth. Wenger's persistence with throwing them (+ obviously Arshavin) on has exacerbated it. He should have latched onto something different by now until we sign some other fucker. As I said, if Ozyakup is on the bench and a key midfielder goes off when we're losing the battle, you have to put him on.

Anyway yeah...I expected little from tonight. But it's a nice win and hopefully the result of the tie hasn't deadened the flow we are in.

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 10:21 PM
Pretty much, I can understand frustation, but for people to say RVP is shit etc, is just rediculas tbh.

It says more about the person making that type of post tbh.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:22 PM
It says more about the person making that type of post tbh.

True, How was the GW meet up Game if you went?

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 10:24 PM
True, How was the GW meet up Game if you went?

Nah, watched from home.

Had a few texts though. Anyone at the match will remember that for some time I reckon.

At least it became exciting.

Maestro
06-03-2012, 10:24 PM
Fucked up the first leg
Fantastic 1st half
No bench
No real quality either side of RVP
Kos, you're the Boss
Ox, you're Tox

Well done lads, tried your best tonight but we just lacked that extra 2% quality.

*PS. Dear Mr WUMger

Theo, Gerv, Chackma, Park, Squilaci, Denilson, Bendtner, Vela, Manuel, Djoana ...can just fuck off already. Their wages can obviously be better utilised.

Yours

High Times

Rolling Dice Anywhere I Go - NQ

fakeyank
06-03-2012, 10:27 PM
I wished Arshavin was still with us!

GP
06-03-2012, 10:28 PM
I wished Arshavin was still with us!

Now that's just silly.

latewinner
06-03-2012, 10:31 PM
Theo and Gervinho need to be squad players or leave

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 10:32 PM
Wilshere would have bossed that midfield as well.

Injury curse needs to piss off tbh.

Globalgunner
06-03-2012, 10:37 PM
Mesbah.......Theo finally found the one fullback that he could take on and beat. Still couldnt take advantage though.

latewinner
06-03-2012, 10:38 PM
That ref was horrible, obviously told to disrupt us as much as he believably could. He was oh so close to not giving the penalty

Syn
06-03-2012, 10:38 PM
Another key part of the learning curve for Szczesny and Oxlade. Wilshere went through it last season. Those 3 are going to form the core for this team. Supported by Gibbs, Jenkinson, Coquelin and Miyaichi. We’ll hold on to Koscielny, Song, Sagna. And Van Persie is in this for the long haul, so I do actually think we’ll be able to strengthen a fair bit this summer even if we don’t spend much. Ironically, just as Wenger has called off ‘Project Youth’ and started bringing in Mertesacker, Arteta and more experienced players, the current crop of youngsters are the ones worth sticking with. They have already shown they are not a bunch of Vela’s. They have been performing at the highest level and they’re not the weak links in this squad. In fact, I think Oxlade staying on could’ve tipped it in our favour today.

Not playing until Monday is nice - gives everyone a chance to recover. Next up, killing off Pardew’s bunch of calypso charlatans would be welcome. Moving St. Totteringham’s day forward a year to April/May 2012 would be very welcome.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:40 PM
Theo and Gervinho need to be squad players or leave

Yeah i'm tending to leaning towatds this tbh. Especailly the former, i hope Gev can settle next season.

Alpha
06-03-2012, 10:41 PM
The game was there for the taking and we fucked it up . RVP squandered the best chance to make 4 . Song becoming complacent . Poor substitution from Wenger Chamack and Park ? just like Squillaci and djourou . But bravo gunners to have restore our pride .

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:41 PM
Another key part of the learning curve for Szczesny and Oxlade. Wilshere went through it last season. Those 3 are going to form the core for this team. Supported by Gibbs, Jenkinson, Coquelin and Miyaichi. We’ll hold on to Koscielny, Song, Sagna. And Van Persie is in this for the long haul, so I do actually think we’ll be able to strengthen a fair bit this summer even if we don’t spend much. Ironically, just as Wenger has called off ‘Project Youth’ and started bringing in Mertesacker, Arteta and more experienced players, the current crop of youngsters are the ones worth sticking with. They have already shown they are not a bunch of Vela’s. They have been performing at the highest level and they’re not the weak links in this squad. In fact, I think Oxlade staying on could’ve tipped it in our favour today.

Not playing until Monday is nice - gives everyone a chance to recover. Next up, killing off Pardew’s bunch of calypso charlatans would be welcome. Moving St. Totteringham’s day forward a year to April/May 2012 would be very welcome.

Think your right Syn we have a nice Spine for this team for the next few seasons, all Wenger has to do is add quality and we'd match any team on our day.

RomfordPele
06-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Hmm, so close and yet so far ... Restored some pride I guess, but irritating substitutions from Wenger again. Chamakh coming on was fair enough, but why why why bring on Park? Jenkinson was the obvious choice for his ability to deliver a decent cross.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Yeah he was shite, he has these games once a month where he consistently gives the ball away cheaply and then commits the predictable foul trying to win it back.

Like you said he was playing like he was High, not the song we all know and love but tbh even though he has foubd crucial passes this season he has not been all that this season.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 10:44 PM
It's getting to the point now where Oxlade has to be one of the first names on the team sheet. Even at 18 he looks a cut above the rest. When he was dead on his feet he was still tracking back and launching into tackles. New Rosicky is also great to see - he was the biggest influence on the super first half IMO.

fakeyank
06-03-2012, 10:53 PM
Now that's just silly.

When Chamakh was coming on, I in fact wished Aliadiere was with us.. may be even Cygan up front. Anyone but Chakma!

Coney
06-03-2012, 10:53 PM
It's getting to the point now where Oxlade has to be one of the first names on the team sheet. Even at 18 he looks a cut above the rest. When he was dead on his feet he was still tracking back and launching into tackles. New Rosicky is also great to see - he was the biggest influence on the super first half IMO.

I think some people are just natural and he is one.

GP
06-03-2012, 10:54 PM
When Chamakh was coming on, I in fact wished Aliadiere was with us.. may be even Cygan up front. Anyone but Chakma!

Don't forget we have alex song who can also play there.

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 10:56 PM
When Chamakh was coming on, I in fact wished Aliadiere was with us.. may be even Cygan up front. Anyone but Chakma!

Fair point.

fakeyank
06-03-2012, 10:57 PM
Don't forget we have alex song who can also play there.

:lol:

:(

I was surprised Song didnt move back into CB with TV5 bombing forward in the last 5 mins. Oh well..

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:03 PM
We ultimately paid the price for the embarrassing shambles of a first leg. The feeling among the vast majority of us was it was pretty much nailed on we were going out - but we got a great reaction from the players and while it hurts, I think we'll remember this night for some time.

They gave it everything, and when the starting 11 could give no more, there was no one on that bench to help them.

Pretty much. Proud of the boys tonight. I've decided to ignore the toddlers and WUMs on this thread, they're just looking for a reaction. It was a fantastic performance and we should all be proud of their efforts. Play like that till the end of the season and whatever happens there'll be no complaints from me.

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:04 PM
When Chamakh was coming on, I in fact wished Aliadiere was with us.. may be even Cygan up front. Anyone but Chakma!

:lol:

It's hardly a substitution to strike fear into the Milan players! Ah well, he did OK actually, won a few headers well. He's not that good but he tried.

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:06 PM
True, How was the GW meet up Game if you went?

It was pretty good. LDG, IT, IT's workmate, Handy, Falvs and me.

LDG
06-03-2012, 11:06 PM
Done us proud. Well done the lads. Top stuff. Hard luck.

Coney
06-03-2012, 11:10 PM
It was pretty good. LDG, IT, IT's workmate, Handy, Falvs and me.

What - was IT doing some woodwork? :unsure:

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:11 PM
What - was IT doing some woodwork? :unsure:

Yes. He was making you a new face.

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 11:13 PM
Yes. He was making you a new face.

:lol:

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 11:14 PM
Spurs 5-2, Liverpool 1-2, Milan 3-0...quite a nice set of results since we decided it was time for our annual bomb out of everything period.

Better late than never, I guess.

Alpha
06-03-2012, 11:15 PM
A decent sub should have been to bring on Miguel or Jenkinson at the left back and push Gibbs forward as a winger . Shift Gervinho to the right and bring on Oguzhan in the middle to help out Rosicky .

LDG
06-03-2012, 11:16 PM
Rosicky :bow: RVP :bow: top draw!!!! Fuck milan. Fuck em all. That's what it's about. As long as we keep fighting like that, i don't give a fuck.

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:23 PM
Rosicky :bow: RVP :bow: top draw!!!! Fuck milan. Fuck em all. That's what it's about. As long as we keep fighting like that, i don't give a fuck.

:good:

Some of the armchair fans and glory hunters on here. Just.
Don't.
Get it.

Nights like tonight are what being a Gooner is about. OK, we went out. But they gave everything, they fought till the end and they nearly climbed the seemingly impossible mountain. The atmosphere was brilliant tonight even after the final whistle. People got it. They got that the players had given everything and that's all we ask. Win, lose or draw so long as they put the effort in they deserve credit and support.

Come on Arsenal :scarf:

Coney
06-03-2012, 11:24 PM
Yes. He was making you a new face.

I'll be a chip off the old block.

GP
06-03-2012, 11:25 PM
Yes. He was making you a new face.


BOOOOM!

:lol:

GP
06-03-2012, 11:27 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03SRbyF0tVeUf/1000x.jpg

:( bless him

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:28 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03SRbyF0tVeUf/1000x.jpg

:( bless him

You could see how gutted they players were at the end. They'd given everything but it just wasn't quite enough.
Hope they pick themselves up and spank the Toon on Monday.

Marc Overmars
06-03-2012, 11:28 PM
Ooh to, ooh to be, ooh to be a Gooner!

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:33 PM
And it's Arrrserrrnal.
Arsenal FC.
We're by FAR the greatest team the world has ever seen.

:scarf:

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 11:34 PM
:scarf:

LDG
06-03-2012, 11:35 PM
ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL ARSENAL

Syn
06-03-2012, 11:35 PM
on the performance…
We gave a good performance tonight and we are disappointed because we touched qualification. We had the chances and we didn't do it, but we were very close. I felt that we suffered a bit in the second half physically because we gave a lot at Liverpool. Overall I feel we didn't have many options on the bench in midfield and in the second half we had more problems keeping the ball than in the first half. When we tired in midfield we had no options on the bench and the regret I have is there. The players put in a faultless performance, with fantastic spirit and you can only congratulate the whole team.

on the first leg…
We have played so many games away in the Champions League and we have never lost 4-0 anywhere. We have played at Real Madrid, at Barcelona and we have played against better teams than Milan so it was very disappointing because our performance was poor.

on feeling proud...
I don't know if it is one of my proudest nights but it is a night when players can be proud to play for this Club because they put every effort in. If you win 3-0 at home you can only say well done to the players. You know that if you play 180 minutes and you miss 90, it is difficult at this level. We were very close.

on whether the players need to be lifted…
We are on a good run in the league and we know it will be difficult [to lift the players] because it is a big disappointment, but the team have grown together. Hopefully from here we can finish the season in a strong way because we know there is no room for disappointment in the league. For us every point is a battle and until the end of the season that is what is in front of us.

on the referee…
I was not happy with the referee tonight because I felt he gave many free kicks in the middle of the park. Every time [MIlan's players] went down a free kick was given to them, and they sensed that very quickly and used it very well.

on Van Persie's second-half chance…
What can I say? The one you would want the chance to go to was Van Persie. He tried to chip the goalkeeper, and you have to give credit to Abbiati. It is a fraction where the players have to make a decision, but credit to the keeper.

on Oxlade-Chamberlain...
For a guy who has never played at the top level in central midfield, he started in a Champions League game and he did well. He tired a bit in the second half after his injury, and he got less of the ball than he did in the first half. When he got the ball, you always think something could happen. He can play all of the places across the pitch, in midfield to wide. You could see he has suffered physically, but also that he has the class to be in there.

on the team's recent good performances...
I have to give credit to Tomas Rosicky for that. He was again outstanding here. In all of these games, he was one of the most influential players, and he does not always get the credit he deserves, so I would like to take this opportunity to give him credit.

on the defensive display...
I felt defensively we were not at the [right] level in Milan. Tonight our defenders were outstanding and the back four did very well. We had a very offensive team and to keep Milan from scoring, we needed an outstanding performance at the back and we did that very well.



http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/-the-players-gave-a-faultless-performance-

GP
06-03-2012, 11:38 PM
Also, Sagna is a fucking machine.

More specifically...

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Letters
06-03-2012, 11:39 PM
Oh, and a word about the referee: ****

I was just talking to LDG before the game about corruption in football. Either that bloke tonight was bent (not like that, although possibly, maybe he's married to one of the AC Milan players, that sort of thing is allowed these days you know) or massively incompetent.

GP
06-03-2012, 11:41 PM
He was shit for both teams tbh. Looked like he didn't know what he was doing.

Bookings for fuckall, then letting more serious stuff go. Mental.

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:44 PM
He was shit for both teams tbh. Looked like he didn't know what he was doing.

Bookings for fuckall, then letting more serious stuff go. Mental.

Well, maybe. I guess when you're there you get into it too much and it's hard to be objective. He seemed to be giving them more but I'm hardly neutral. I think we can all agree he should be killed though.

Syn
06-03-2012, 11:44 PM
It seems that Wenger and the players really believed they would pull it off tonight. If you look at Alpha's thread earlier, most here didn't give us a hope in hell before kick off. We were hoping that the players would make the aggregate score respectable and win on the night, and carry on that winning form onto Newcastle. But, unfortunately, I don't think it has worked out that way. Because the players - to their credit - hadn't given up and did believe they would win, the result on the night was of no consolation. They looked gutted at the final whistle. Usually at this stage of the season, there's a hangover and we suffer in the league. But lets hope we can carry on playing this way.

I also hope the game today showed Wenger that experimenting and trying different things can work. Too often he is too rigid with his tactics. Today, he was forced to try a more attacking team and formation, and it was great. I don't even think we 'clicked' on the night, really. But that urgency and desperation throughout the team was what got us so close. Things might've faded a bit but it was probably through a lack of quality rather than any lack of effort. In previous years, we have had the quality but not the killer instinct/mentality.

Xhaka Can’t
06-03-2012, 11:46 PM
Well, maybe. I guess when you're there you get into it too much and it's hard to be objective. He seemed to be giving them more but I'm hardly neutral. I think we can all agree he should be killed though.

As long as it isn't done humanely, I'm on board with that.

Awful referee.

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 11:46 PM
Oh, and a word about the referee: ****

I was just talking to LDG before the game about corruption in football. Either that bloke tonight was bent (not like that, although possibly, maybe he's married to one of the AC Milan players, that sort of thing is allowed these days you know) or massively incompetent.

He did not want to give us that pen, until the 5th official pointed it out, he denied Milan a corner for some reason. Just think he was clueless more then corrupt. lol.

Then again We know Uefa have put Barca's name on the CL already but thats another story for another time lol.

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:46 PM
He should be shot in front of his family.

McNamara That Ghost...
06-03-2012, 11:47 PM
Cesc Fàbregas Soler ‏ @cesc4official

Very proud to be gooner in a day like today! That shows you what passion can do in the world of football... Arsenal fans were immense!

:lol:

Pining, Cesc?

Letters
06-03-2012, 11:50 PM
:lol:

Pining, Cesc?

He does seem a bit desperate sometimes.
Oh please still love me, Arsenal fans, I didn't want to leave but I have Barca DNA.

:rolleyes:

I don't bear him any malice and he did well for us but he's not going to go down as an Arsenal legend as he seems to want to.

Syn
06-03-2012, 11:51 PM
:lol:

Pining, Cesc?

He's not a gooner. But I genuinely hope he enjoys his inevitable CL medal that his team would've won with or without him.

21_GOONER_SALUTE
06-03-2012, 11:51 PM
Another key part of the learning curve for Szczesny and Oxlade. Wilshere went through it last season. Those 3 are going to form the core for this team. Supported by Gibbs, Jenkinson, Coquelin and Miyaichi. We’ll hold on to Koscielny, Song, Sagna. And Van Persie is in this for the long haul, so I do actually think we’ll be able to strengthen a fair bit this summer even if we don’t spend much. Ironically, just as Wenger has called off ‘Project Youth’ and started bringing in Mertesacker, Arteta and more experienced players, the current crop of youngsters are the ones worth sticking with. They have already shown they are not a bunch of Vela’s. They have been performing at the highest level and they’re not the weak links in this squad. In fact, I think Oxlade staying on could’ve tipped it in our favour today.

Not playing until Monday is nice - gives everyone a chance to recover. Next up, killing off Pardew’s bunch of calypso charlatans would be welcome. Moving St. Totteringham’s day forward a year to April/May 2012 would be very welcome.

Good post but the thing is in these modern times how long can you expect to realistically hold on to such premium young talent when everyone else is coveting the same thing and they've got that salient advantage of being able to provide them with meaningful silverware.

People can say what they like but we could have easily put out a team today of theWhore,RVP, Cesc, Wilshere, Nasri, Song, Cashley, Szczesny and Oxo as an impact sub if we'd done the right things at the right time.

We all scream about Barca but that team has been built on the simple Xavi-Iniesta axis for about a decade or so (both players have been at bar**** far longer than any of the players i just mentioned). Barca have never lost any meaningful young talent (that made an impact in the first team) in over a decade despite having a revolving door of managers and presidents. So when Messi says he's going to be there forever, I f*ckin believe him- can any of us say the same about any of the 3 you highlighted? Already my money is on Szczesny out first.

latewinner
06-03-2012, 11:53 PM
He does seem a bit desperate sometimes.
Oh please still love me, Arsenal fans, I didn't want to leave but I have Barca DNA.

:rolleyes:

I don't bear him any malice and he did well for us but he's not going to go down as an Arsenal legend as he seems to want to.

Think that's unfair. If Brady is Cesc is in my opinion. And I I think he does genuinely want the club to do well

Olivier's xmas twist
06-03-2012, 11:57 PM
He's not a gooner. But I genuinely hope he enjoys his inevitable CL medal that his team will cheat their way to with or without him.

Fixed it for you.

Syn
06-03-2012, 11:58 PM
Good post but the thing is in these modern times how long can you expect to realistically hold on to such premium young talent when everyone else is coveting the same thing and they've got that salient advantage of being able to provide them with meaningful silverware.

People can say what they like but we could have easily put out a team today of theWhore,RVP, Cesc, Wilshere, Nasri, Song, Cashley, Szczesny and Oxo as an impact sub if we'd done the right things at the right time.

We all scream about Barca but that team has been built on the simple Xavi-Iniesta axis for about a decade or so (both players have been at bar**** far longer than any of the players i just mentioned). Barca have never lost any meaningful young talent (that made an impact in the first team) in over a decade despite having a revolving door of managers and presidents. So when Messi says he's going to be there forever, I f*ckin believe him- can any of us say the same about any of the 3 you highlighted? Already my money is on Szczesny out first.

I believe a lot of our youngsters have a real connection to Arsenal. I believe they will want to stay at the club for a long time. Maybe it's unrealistic to expect them to stay if we keep slipping down the table, but I think there is something unique about this current crop over the previous years. We have the quality as well as the right mentality. If you think about Oxlade's performance tonight or Wilshere's performance against Barcelona last year - they were the stand out performers in those key games. We haven't seen that from the likes of Vela. Smashing carling cup pub teams is all well and good. I think having an English core helps to buy us a couple of extra years over the Fabregas/Nasri's. I'm not worried about them leaving because I think we'll be hitting some success and they'll be encouraged by that.

Xhaka Can’t
07-03-2012, 12:02 AM
I believe a lot of our youngsters have a real connection to Arsenal. I believe they will want to stay at the club for a long time. Maybe it's unrealistic to expect them to stay if we keep slipping down the table, but I think there is something unique about this current crop over the previous years. We have the quality as well as the right mentality. If you think about Oxlade's performance tonight or Wilshere's performance against Barcelona last year - they were the stand out performers in those key games. We haven't seen that from the likes of Vela. Smashing carling cup pub teams is all well and good. I think having an English core helps to buy us a couple of extra years over the Fabregas/Nasri's. I'm not worried about them leaving because I think we'll be hitting some success and they'll be encouraged by that.

I believe that youngsters are our future.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 12:03 AM
Think that's unfair. If Brady is Cesc is in my opinion. And I I think he does genuinely want the club to do well

Seems really Cringe to me his tweets, when he was with us he was always going on about Barca, now he is with them he is bleating on about how much he loves the club. Never seem to love the club last season when he was pining to move to Barca.

He wants the fans on side thats all he cares nout for the club, just like Nasri.

21_GOONER_SALUTE
07-03-2012, 12:19 AM
I believe a lot of our youngsters have a real connection to Arsenal. I believe they will want to stay at the club for a long time. Maybe it's unrealistic to expect them to stay if we keep slipping down the table, but I think there is something unique about this current crop over the previous years. We have the quality as well as the right mentality. If you think about Oxlade's performance tonight or Wilshere's performance against Barcelona last year - they were the stand out performers in those key games. We haven't seen that from the likes of Vela. Smashing carling cup pub teams is all well and good. I think having an English core helps to buy us a couple of extra years over the Fabregas/Nasri's. I'm not worried about them leaving because I think we'll be hitting some success and they'll be encouraged by that.

Fair enough, tho you should probably take Ollie's monkier now. But just being a sourpuss for a minute, Szczesny has already gone on record saying he could see himself at Barca someday (sound familiar); Wilshere will stay till the English media makes sure he's got a Rooneyesque ego and then demands 10% of our wage bill for his sole gratification; and Ox has got a dad and an uncle who's greatest career laurel between them is being in the 4th division team of the year, won't be surprised if they whisper to him a Chamberlain should achieve far more. Oh well, we'll still have Feo tho :hurrah:

21_GOONER_SALUTE
07-03-2012, 12:21 AM
I believe the children are our future.
Teach them well and let them lead the way.......

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 12:26 AM
Teach them well and let them lead the way.......

Show them all the beauty they possess inside......

GunnerFan4Life
07-03-2012, 12:33 AM
Players looked heartbroken at the final whistle. You could tell all season (apart from one or two games, if not then the managers tactics) they've been fighting much harder than they have been in the last 2 or 3 seasons, I think we cannot afford to lose Van Persie and build this team with QUALITY and keep the belief that we've had and we'll go one better, but if Van Persie leaves then atleast replace him, or i feel the cycle will start again.

Master Splinter
07-03-2012, 12:37 AM
but if Van Persie leaves then atleast replace him, or i feel the cycle will start again.

Don't forget we have also Eisfeld who can play there. Do not forget.

friskyanders
07-03-2012, 12:41 AM
Some of the people on here are right twats.

Who's the dickhead slating RVP? - Have you ever been to an Arsenal game?

Fuck off and go support Spurs you moron.

Ralpheroo72
07-03-2012, 12:47 AM
Show them all the beauty they possess inside......

...Give them a sense, of pride....

Cripps_orig
07-03-2012, 12:50 AM
Who slated RVP? :unsure:

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 01:02 AM
Who slated RVP? :unsure:

This guy




Also RVP :doh:

Just blast it you ****. The arrogance is pathetic. Youre not that good.

Cripps_orig
07-03-2012, 01:06 AM
This guySpeaking the truth isnt slating :unsure:

Japan Shaking All Over
07-03-2012, 01:23 AM
Just saw the result and proud we went down fighting, sounds like we were a RvP miss away from getting a result. . .

Read the first three pages of this thread. . . .people all fire and brimstone at RvP and Wenger. . .ummm hello

RvP has been an absolute legend this season, has scored close to 30 goals (may even be 30 goals now) this season, won us the game against 'pool and still people get at him like he is public enemy #1 - now I havent seen his miss and it sounds like he tried the extravagant way rather than the simple and I am sure I will shoot myself in the face when I see it but FFS- he is no cu#t!

As for Wenger, it is not his fault either, I agree that his days are numbered and that the bench may not inspire thoughts of obvious glory if used but nothing is guarenteed, even if we had Messi, Ronaldo and Eboue to bring on , we still may never have got the goals we needed. . ,
the striket options are weak but get over it. . .cos it aint going to change this season, and we can only hope it will next, with or without Wenger at the helm.

The lads won 3:nil shame we couldnt get what we wanted, I would have been spunking on my weetabix if we had. . .but I applaud the team bit let it be a lesson to not put in tge kind of kak shift they did in Milan

Syn
07-03-2012, 01:43 AM
I don't know why there is a focus on RVP's miss. It certainly wasn't close to being the first thing that popped into my head after the final whistle. He didn't take that chance but he's not the reason we went out. A lot of close shaves and errors in the game. The first leg had a catalogue of them from our perspective.

And 'arrogance' wasn't the reason he missed that chance. He obviously felt the goalkeeper would react differently than he did and he instinctively did whatever he felt gives him the best chance of scoring. Just because he went for the dink doesn't mean it was arrogance. That's a rather primitive way of looking at it. It was the wrong choice, yes, but if you honestly think he purposely picked that wrong choice because he thought he could pull off a more extravagant finish, you're more wrong than the shot selection itself.

Japan Shaking All Over
07-03-2012, 05:22 AM
I don't know why there is a focus on RVP's miss. It certainly wasn't close to being the first thing that popped into my head after the final whistle. He didn't take that chance but he's not the reason we went out. A lot of close shaves and errors in the game. The first leg had a catalogue of them from our perspective.

And 'arrogance' wasn't the reason he missed that chance. He obviously felt the goalkeeper would react differently than he did and he instinctively did whatever he felt gives him the best chance of scoring. Just because he went for the dink doesn't mean it was arrogance. That's a rather primitive way of looking at it. It was the wrong choice, yes, but if you honestly think he purposely picked that wrong choice because he thought he could pull off a more extravagant finish, you're more wrong than the shot selection itself.


That's a rather primitive way of looking at it

Syn mate, it may be the only way some can look at it considering that a fair few on GW either live in a cave or dine on raw meat!

Joker no doubt thinks RvPs miss is another example of him not turning up for big games!

Ernesto
07-03-2012, 08:13 AM
It was a bit of a bitter pill to swallow, difficult to stomach, and I had trouble sleeping :(

We made the aggregate scoreline look respectable, so well done on that. However, let's not pretend this is a win. The players have to learn from such abject performances away from home in the CL.

RvP's miss in the 2nd half- I think a little too much is being made of it. I think he may even have been offside in as soon as Gervinho struck the ball first time around and I'm pretty sure, if the officiating on the night was anything to go by, that the linesman would've raised his flag had the ball nestled in the net.

Marc Overmars
07-03-2012, 08:26 AM
Having seen the chance again he was quite close to the keeper and would have had to swiftly adjust his footing to slot it either side. It was quite instinctive to go for the chip but those are the fine margins you deal with, it's just one of those things. He probably should've scored but I can think of 32 reasons why having a go at RVP is dumb.

I hope there is no lasting effect and we don't see the collapse™ MKII. We've still got to cement 4th and the Old Boys will probably want to prove a point now AVB is gone.

This club is so much better than a solitary 4th place challenge, hopefully if we can get 4th we remain attractive for a new a manager in the summer. :coffee:

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 08:29 AM
Speaking the truth isnt slating :unsure:


Youre not that good.

Is slating, when its clear he is that good.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 08:31 AM
Syn mate, it may be the only way some can look at it considering that a fair few on GW either live in a cave or dine on raw meat!

Joker no doubt thinks RvPs miss is another example of him not turning up for big games!

You know it, but then again you did not need us to loose to know that lol. He probs splaffed his pants when RVP missed so he could come on GW and gloat.

Flavs
07-03-2012, 09:04 AM
we were awesome in the first half but the change in tactics and the lack of running in our legs killed jthe second off pretty quickly, and we still could of won it had that chance gone in.

Would have loved Park to come on and score as well that would of been awesome. Theo still has a considerable amount of work to do on his decision making and the ref was a wanker.

Great night though, we beat the Italian champions 3-0 at home!!

server too busy!
07-03-2012, 09:13 AM
How on earth can you slate RvP after all he's done this season, the keeper gambled and got lucky. Also lets not forget at the other end they should have buried the tie instead of shooting straight at Szchesny. Whats to say we would have gone through at 4-4 anyway, the boys looked knackered and we had no midfielders. Christ even Park had to play.

Also anyone saying we bottled it is a twat. Bottling it is if we had been 3-0 up at the Emirates and then gone to Milan and lost 4-0. If it hadn't been for a dodgy penalty and the offside goal in Milan we would be through.

The guys should take great pride in this, when we have a proper pitch to play on we destroyed a Milan team that are supposed to be one of the best. And all that with a horrific number of injuries.

Well done Wenger and well done boys!

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 09:19 AM
How on earth can you slate RvP after all he's done this season, the keeper gambled and got lucky. Also lets not forget at the other end they should have buried the tie instead of shooting straight at Szchesny. Whats to say we would have gone through at 4-4 anyway, the boys looked knackered and we had no midfielders. Christ even Park had to play.

Also anyone saying we bottled it is a twat. Bottling it is if we had been 3-0 up at the Emirates and then gone to Milan and lost 4-0. If it hadn't been for a dodgy penalty and the offside goal in Milan we would be through.

The guys should take great pride in this, when we have a proper pitch to play on we destroyed a Milan team that are supposed to be one of the best. And all that with a horrific number of injuries.

Well done Wenger and well done boys!

:gp:

Did not help the Ref be useless and Blowing every time one of theirs went down.

KSE Comedy Club
07-03-2012, 10:03 AM
Full credit to wenger and the lads last night, done us proud.

Real shame we couldnt find the back of the net in the second half but we are paying the penalty for a shite 1st leg.

Now we have to make sure we secure a top 4 finish, get RVP signed up and buy a couple of quality players and we'll be sorted for next season.

On to Barcodes, COME ON ARSENAL!!

Master Splinter
07-03-2012, 10:17 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/9127496/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-faces-prospect-of-another-touchline-ban-following-tunnel-row-against-Milan.html

Wenger :bow: GHELling it up in the tunnel.

Shame he didn't plant a two-footer on the ref's face.

Letters
07-03-2012, 10:18 AM
Just watched the RvP miss again. The ball was very close to the 'keeper, it wasn't as easy a chance as it looked, he had very little time to decide what to do.
If he'd blasted it, it would just have hit the 'keeper and gone God knows where, dinking it probably was the right choice, he just didn't get the height on it he needed to. :(

McNamara That Ghost...
07-03-2012, 10:19 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/34fid1t.gif

Wenger. :bow:

Master Splinter
07-03-2012, 10:27 AM
http://i42.tinypic.com/34fid1t.gif

Wenger. :bow:

The picture isn't working.

The spoiler thing probably hates Drogba.

Young Guns 11
07-03-2012, 10:32 AM
How on earth can you slate RvP after all he's done this season, the keeper gambled and got lucky. Also lets not forget at the other end they should have buried the tie instead of shooting straight at Szchesny. Whats to say we would have gone through at 4-4 anyway, the boys looked knackered and we had no midfielders. Christ even Park had to play.

Also anyone saying we bottled it is a twat. Bottling it is if we had been 3-0 up at the Emirates and then gone to Milan and lost 4-0. If it hadn't been for a dodgy penalty and the offside goal in Milan we would be through.

The guys should take great pride in this, when we have a proper pitch to play on we destroyed a Milan team that are supposed to be one of the best. And all that with a horrific number of injuries.

Well done Wenger and well done boys!

:gp:

People slating RvP are a huge huge joke. That shot would have gone in probably 99 times out of a 100. Just a great save from Abiatti.

We played great and won 3-0! The damage was done though and everyone knew it. I don't really see why people are crying about in terms of yesterdays peformance. Heads up lads. Done us all proud :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
07-03-2012, 10:35 AM
The picture isn't working.

The spoiler thing probably hates Drogba.

Now it is. My fault for hotlinking.

BOBN
07-03-2012, 11:19 AM
Just watched the RvP miss again. The ball was very close to the 'keeper, it wasn't as easy a chance as it looked, he had very little time to decide what to do.
If he'd blasted it, it would just have hit the 'keeper and gone God knows where, dinking it probably was the right choice, he just didn't get the height on it he needed to. :(
The path was clear to just slip it along the ground to the keepers right. It was literally a tap in.

It was like a game or rock paper sissors. Rvp knew the keeper had time for one movement, he anticipated it would he a sideward movement to block the tap in so he chipped it. Instead the keeper came forwards and up. so he out-anticipated rvp.

Cant blame rvp. It was a thinking action, not an arrogant action.

Xhaka Can’t
07-03-2012, 11:21 AM
Bergkamp would have side footed it in.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 11:30 AM
]Just watched the RvP miss again. The ball was very close to the 'keeper, it wasn't as easy a chance as it looked, he had very little time to decide what to do.[/B]
If he'd blasted it, it would just have hit the 'keeper and gone God knows where, dinking it probably was the right choice, he just didn't get the height on it he needed to. :(

Yep, But Gevinho should have buried it 1st time in the top corner tbh.

RVP said if he had the chance he have done the same again.

BOBN
07-03-2012, 11:33 AM
Rosicky :bow: RVP :bow: top draw!!!! Fuck milan. Fuck em all. That's what it's about. As long as we keep fighting like that, i don't give a fuck.
Good post but isnt it a shame that effort like that isnt a given from every team every match

BOBN
07-03-2012, 11:40 AM
Glad people are starting to see kos is better than vermalean. He carries that boy at times.

Marc Overmars
07-03-2012, 11:49 AM
Glad people are starting to see kos is better than vermalean. He carries that boy at times.

Most improved player in the country.

Marc Overmars
07-03-2012, 12:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWT0YyNMpUw

:lol:

Ollie the Optimist
07-03-2012, 12:26 PM
You know it, but then again you did not need us to loose to know that lol. He probs splaffed his pants when RVP missed so he could come on GW and gloat.

yeah its not as if RVP scored a winner against liverpool, equaliser against the scum, barca last year. yeah hes fucking awful, sell the ****,


fucking proud of the lads last night, almost did it, we gave a performance, beat milan 3-0, thats massive, last three games, we have won when no one said we would. fuck fourth, i want third

Dennis Bendtner
07-03-2012, 12:53 PM
Unfortunately, in a dynamic attacking unit last night (Rosicky, Walcott, Oxlade, Van Persie), Gervinho stuck out like a sore thumb. Lots of instances where he immediately looked for Gibbs on the overlap rather than try something himself. Doubt there is much scope for improvement as he is not particularly physically or technically gifted, allied with the cojones aspect.

Syn
07-03-2012, 01:00 PM
Unfortunately, in a dynamic attacking unit last night (Rosicky, Walcott, Oxlade, Van Persie), Gervinho stuck out like a sore thumb. Lots of instances where he immediately looked for Gibbs on the overlap rather than try something himself. Doubt there is much scope for improvement as he is not particularly physically or technically gifted, allied with the cojones aspect.

Disappointing how he has turned out. This season’s Chamakh. I guess it says it all that in the final of a major international tournament, Gervinho - a forward - wouldn’t put himself forward to take a penalty before defenders and kids. He showed little initiative last night.

Niall_Quinn
07-03-2012, 01:07 PM
I don't know why there is a focus on RVP's miss. It certainly wasn't close to being the first thing that popped into my head after the final whistle. He didn't take that chance but he's not the reason we went out. A lot of close shaves and errors in the game. The first leg had a catalogue of them from our perspective.

And 'arrogance' wasn't the reason he missed that chance. He obviously felt the goalkeeper would react differently than he did and he instinctively did whatever he felt gives him the best chance of scoring. Just because he went for the dink doesn't mean it was arrogance. That's a rather primitive way of looking at it. It was the wrong choice, yes, but if you honestly think he purposely picked that wrong choice because he thought he could pull off a more extravagant finish, you're more wrong than the shot selection itself.

RvP did what he's been doing all season, kept his nerve in a split second incident and tried to apply the technique required to do the job right. If it's arrogant not to panic then I hope his arrogance swells as the season moves into the critical stages. The keeper did very well to keep that out. Pure instinct by RvP matched by pure instinct from their keeper, this time it didn't work out for RvP (unlike 35 other occasions that jave kept us out of the relegation zone).

When I watched him step up to take the biggest penalty of our season so far I knew for a fact I would have bottled that and I bet a ton of professional footballers would have too. RvP was ice cool and gave the keeper no chance - even though that scandalous cheating ref was trying to put him off.

Bergkamp missed that penalty against Utd that could have changed anything. Henry missed that chance against Barcelona. RvP misses against Milan. These are all big misses that reduce the status of these players by a tiny, tiny fraction compared to what they gave back and continue to give back to the club. If anyone is allowed one error it's RvP, the best striker in the world (no hyperbole required because it's a fact), a great captain and hopefully an Arsenal player for years to come.

If their is any criticism it should be directed towards the rest of the team. Why does RvP have to do it all? Where are the rest of them?

Wenger got his tactics spot on last night too. He changed his philosophy, kicked his stubbornness into touch and almost pulled off what everyone said couldn't be done. Credit has to go to him too, no matter how you feel about him or his future at the club. In the middle of an awful season there are some very positive developments at Arsenal and the way we fought smart and dominated Milan last night is an indication of that. I had no hope for the run in to this season. Now I have some. It's great, I thought the season was dead but far from it.

Niall_Quinn
07-03-2012, 01:14 PM
:gp:

Did not help the Ref be useless and Blowing every time one of theirs went down.

21 FKs to them, 8 to us. He was a total disgrace and as blatant as fuck. The assistant had to force the **** to give us that pen. Plus the tosser ignored Mexes and V Bommel's repeated fouling, both should have been booked multiple times. Ibrahimovich got whatever he wanted too. That glorified Bendtner only had to look at that ref and the whistle blew. I can fully understand and I fully support Wenger going mental. That ref was a cheat. Whether he was paid by Milan - WHO HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF DOING THIS - or whether he was earning wedge from a gambling syndicate that ref was blatant and he was and remains the worst cheat I've seen since that tool who robbed the chavs. Disgrace and nothing will be done about it. With a decent ref Milan would have had half the possession they ended up with last night.

Dennis Bendtner
07-03-2012, 01:16 PM
Disappointing how he has turned out. This season’s Chamakh. I guess it says it all that in the final of a major international tournament, Gervinho - a forward - wouldn’t put himself forward to take a penalty before defenders and kids. He showed little initiative last night.

Yeah. We get on Walcott's back, but at least there is an upside to him being in the team, and he does score good goals. I saw the penalty thing as an indictment too, but we could overlook that if he was doing something different for Arsenal. Gervinho is providing much of the same every week. He is clumsy, not a great goalscorer and doesn't have a genuine physical trait (i.e. Walcott's pace) to cover for it. Plus he clearly shies away from involvement. Improving on him as a first XI player is imperative.

Syn
07-03-2012, 01:16 PM
edit: At NQ: Agreed. Really thought we'd be nowhere near 4th place not long ago but now we hope to get 3rd. Maybe the club have succeeded in downgrading our expectations but I don't care right now - just looking forward to fighting for 3rd place, and hopefully we can actually strengthen for the first summer in ages. We seem to have players that do actually like playing for eachother and a captain that wants to be here.


When I watched him step up to take the biggest penalty of our season so far I knew for a fact I would have bottled that and I bet a ton of professional footballers would have too.

You surprise me, NQ. For all your fuck 'the man' (not in that way, that's unnatural) talk, I would've thought you'd fancy yourself to pelt it down the middle. But, tbf, for all my 'break their legs you fannies' talk, I would've Gervinho'd up the responsibility.

Niall_Quinn
07-03-2012, 01:19 PM
edit: At NQ: Agreed. Really thought we'd be nowhere near 4th place not long ago but now we hope to get 3rd. Maybe the club have succeeded in downgrading our expectations but I don't care right now - just looking forward to fighting for 3rd place, and hopefully we can actually strengthen for the first summer in ages. We seem to have players that do actually like playing for eachother and a captain that wants to be here.



You surprise me, NQ. For all your fuck 'the man' (not in that way, that's unnatural) talk, I would've thought you'd fancy yourself to pelt it down the middle. But, tbf, for all my 'break their legs you fannies' talk, I would've Gervinho'd up the responsibility.

I was trying to crawl into my own pocket when RvP stepped up for that pen. And then when the ref started his antics... Then I had this horrible fantasy about somebody shouting, "Leave it to Theo", and RvP agreeing.

server too busy!
07-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Also people talking about Wenger should go and how Fergie would never have bottled that etc....didn't Fergie go out in the previous round to Basle?

Stop sucking his cock!

McNamara That Ghost...
07-03-2012, 01:30 PM
Also people talking about Wenger should go and how Fergie would never have bottled that etc....didn't Fergie go out in the previous round to Basle?

Stop sucking his cock!

And the way they went out to Bayern Munich two years ago...

Coney
07-03-2012, 01:38 PM
Just watched the RvP miss again. The ball was very close to the 'keeper, it wasn't as easy a chance as it looked, he had very little time to decide what to do.
If he'd blasted it, it would just have hit the 'keeper and gone God knows where, dinking it probably was the right choice, he just didn't get the height on it he needed to. :(

Just watched the replay and he was a bit wrong footed and was not in a position to blast it - as you say, if he had, the keeper was so close it would have just deflected somewhere else. Mind you, he could have blasted it into the keepers face as hard as he could.

Marc Overmars
07-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Unfortunately, in a dynamic attacking unit last night (Rosicky, Walcott, Oxlade, Van Persie), Gervinho stuck out like a sore thumb. Lots of instances where he immediately looked for Gibbs on the overlap rather than try something himself. Doubt there is much scope for improvement as he is not particularly physically or technically gifted, allied with the cojones aspect.

I think he is as gutless as they come, this is not the type of guy you want on your side when the chips are down. Theo to his credit never stops trying if things aren't working out for him. Gervais must have ran at his marker twice last night from what I can remember, otherwise he was barely involved. Once instance I remember specifically was when we were breaking late in the game and everyone was sprinting to get involved, yet he was jogging and even Gibbs played further forward than him at times.

Most of the time he doesn't even look like he has the ball under control, his legs move faster than his brain does. Incredibly frustrating player because his gangly style can lead to him gliding past players and causing trouble.

A classic WUMger player here.

Letters
07-03-2012, 02:11 PM
Mind you, he could have blasted it into the keepers face as hard as he could.

:lol:

Whoeveritwas above to said it's a bit like rock, paper, scissors is right. We're talking split seconds, RvP could have either tried to put it over the 'keeper or either side. He went for 'over' and the 'keeper guessed right. Had the 'keeper dived to his side and saved a side-foot effort people would be saying 'why didn't he dink it over him'? :shrug:

RvP is the only reason we're in the race for a top 4 finish, slagging him off for not scoring that chance is ridiculous.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 02:18 PM
I think he is as gutless as they come, this is not the type of guy you want on your side when the chips are down. Theo to his credit never stops trying if things aren't working out for him. Gervais must have ran at his marker twice last night from what I can remember, otherwise he was barely involved. Once instance I remember specifically was when we were breaking late in the game and everyone was sprinting to get involved, yet he was jogging and even Gibbs played further forward than him at times.

Most of the time he doesn't even look like he has the ball under control, his legs move faster than his brain does. Incredibly frustrating player because his gangly style can lead to him gliding past players and causing trouble.

A classic WUMger player here.

TBF Gev is not motivaed here and its showing at least with Lille he had class players to play with and he enjoyed his footie. He was never coming here to score goals or be world class so not sure why people thought that.

Gev is the type of players with qualtiy around him he looks world class, but with shite like we have he won't and never will. Saying that its his 1st season in the prem and should be given time to settle like Theo has been given.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 02:23 PM
Disappointing how he has turned out. This season’s Chamakh. I guess it says it all that in the final of a major international tournament, Gervinho - a forward - wouldn’t put himself forward to take a penalty before defenders and kids. He showed little initiative last night.

Not really, i mean Chamack bottle 2nd half of last season Gev never really done that. He does need to improve alot. His thing is taking on players, and he does it well the rest of his game sucks. He was never going to be that good with the team we had anyway, we needed more quality to make him shine.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 04:46 PM
Durham "Milan Toyed with Arsenal yesterday" :haha:

Injury Time
07-03-2012, 04:53 PM
Durham "Milan Toyed with Arsenal yesterday" :haha:
:ilt:

By the way have any of the players or manager mentioned the fans last night? I thought we put in a good 90mins even better than spurs match tbh.

Syn
07-03-2012, 05:12 PM
:ilt:By the way have any of the players or manager mentioned the fans last night? I thought we put in a good 90mins even better than spurs match tbh. rvp on twitter:
I'm very proud to be a gunner tonight we gave everything we had! The fans were incredible best atmosphere I ever experienced thanks so much!

Letters
07-03-2012, 05:20 PM
By the way have any of the players or manager mentioned the fans last night? I thought we put in a good 90mins even better than spurs match tbh.

One of the best atmospheres I've been in during the Emirates era.
I appreciate that's not saying much but when it got to 2-0 the intensity really ramped up as people started to believe we might just do it. The intense booing every time Milan got the ball was fantastic. Great atmosphere after the final whistle too. I've moaned on here about a disconnect between fans and players but last night there was a real connection. Was a great night despite the final outcome.

Marc Overmars
07-03-2012, 05:26 PM
We don't boo the opposition enough in the CL tbh. It happens to every away team in Europe and it's about time we made the Emirates an uncomfortable place for visitors.

Dog Toffee
07-03-2012, 06:01 PM
Yeah, we should beat the opposition fans with cricket bats and lob molotov cocktails too.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 06:04 PM
Yeah, we should beat the opposition fans with cricket bats and lob molotov cocktails too.

:wacko:

Injury Time
07-03-2012, 06:14 PM
Yeah, we should beat the opposition fans with cricket hats and lob prawn cocktails too.
oh you club level scallywags!!!

Coney
07-03-2012, 07:00 PM
RvP is the only reason we're in the race for a top 4 finish, slagging him off for not scoring that chance is ridiculous.

:good:

Ollie the Optimist
07-03-2012, 07:18 PM
wining trophies is great and we want too of course but football is about more then that. last night showed it, we didnt go through but all we can feel is pride. something trophies never replace, the feeling of love for this club, i dont care if we win fuck all if the team fights and gives us all a performance like that. the last three games have been brilliant, written off completely, now not in hte race for 4th but 3rd. im just proud after last night and hte last two games, thats all i ask of the team, trophies will come at some point, but nights like last night are what being a gooner is all about

Coney
07-03-2012, 07:30 PM
Durham "Milan Toyed with Arsenal yesterday" :haha:

:lol: What a prick. Yes - Milan deliberately let us get to within 1 goal of going to extra time and maybe winning the tie, just for a laugh. Right. Stupid cunt.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 08:23 PM
wining trophies is great and we want too of course but football is about more then that. last night showed it, we didnt go through but all we can feel is pride. something trophies never replace, the feeling of love for this club, i dont care if we win fuck all if the team fights and gives us all a performance like that. the last three games have been brilliant, written off completely, now not in hte race for 4th but 3rd. im just proud after last night and hte last two games, thats all i ask of the team, trophies will come at some point, but nights like last night are what being a gooner is all about

So true, but its also about correcting your mistakes that you have made for the last however many years. Im not bothered about not winning anything in 7 years, its not as big as the media make out. Im bothed by the fact that we things that we do need to do to correct problems are the easiet things and they are not being done.

Last 3 games has got me believing that with a few quality singings in the summer(if AW spends the money and not feck over silly prices,if he has the money that is) we will be right up there next season Challenging for honour's next season.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 08:24 PM
:lol: What a prick. Yes - Milan deliberately let us get to within 1 goal of going to extra time and maybe winning the tie, just for a laugh. Right. Stupid cunt.

Mans a knob head, had we lost 1-0 he'd have gone on about how we don't have pride etc.

LDG
07-03-2012, 08:25 PM
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,16429_7576036,00.html


:haha: :haha:

Champagne Charlie :bow:

Letters
07-03-2012, 09:35 PM
wining trophies is great and we want too of course but football is about more then that. last night showed it, we didnt go through but all we can feel is pride. something trophies never replace, the feeling of love for this club, i dont care if we win fuck all if the team fights and gives us all a performance like that. the last three games have been brilliant, written off completely, now not in hte race for 4th but 3rd. im just proud after last night and hte last two games, thats all i ask of the team, trophies will come at some point, but nights like last night are what being a gooner is all about

Spot on. Agree with Charlie too though, it is frustrating to see us make the same mistakes year on year.

Ollie the Optimist
07-03-2012, 09:51 PM
Spot on. Agree with Charlie too though, it is frustrating to see us make the same mistakes year on year.

i agree it is frustatrating but thats not the players fault imo, its wengers but imo more hte boards for not realeasing money etc. something is different this year, i feel different about this team, i feel much more pride in them then i have before. i feel like im supporting my team as one, not just players who play for my team.

Olivier's xmas twist
07-03-2012, 10:00 PM
i agree it is frustatrating but thats not the players fault imo, its wengers but imo more hte boards for not realeasing money etc. something is different this year, i feel different about this team, i feel much more pride in them then i have before. i feel like im supporting my team as one, not just players who play for my team.

Well no their should be no excuses with the money from the manager or the board, it has to be spent on the sqaud end of. None of this saving money business or haggling over deals.

If the Poldoski deal is done then is good to see we can actually get good players for a reasonable price instead of messing about.

Kano
08-03-2012, 04:14 PM
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,16429_7576036,00.html