Arsenal vs Man city Sunday 8th April 16:00

[Niall_Quinn]

Ridiculous dive, but Atkinson buys it.

[fakeyank]

City is such a shit club

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Who shifted the goal post just now

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo, dear me.

[Cripps_orig]

Song jsut overhits the pass

[Niall_Quinn]

City is such a shit club

They have 3 players who aren't total bottlers, kompany, lescott and hart. Rest are mercenary scum.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Milner. :lol:

Awful.

[Cripps_orig]

Kos booked

Out for 2 games

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Koscielny booked and suspended for Wolves and Wigan.

Bit horrible tbf.

[fakeyank]

They have 3 players who aren't total bottlers, kompany, lescott and hart. Rest are mercenary scum.

Lescott is one of them!

[fakeyank]

Koscielny booked and suspended for Wolves and Wigan.

Bit horrible tbf.

Dont worry.. we have Song also who can play there!

[Niall_Quinn]

Atkinson the cheat books Kos. He saw that one, the fucking ****. Kos misses 2games now. Do we have more cards than them now? Fucking joke.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Balotelli went for the overhead, didn't work.

[Young Guns 11]

Koscielny, idiot :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

Ox on please.

[Cripps_orig]

Good defending by Benayoun for City

[Niall_Quinn]

Too intricate, too tippy tappy, just hit the fucker.

[Cripps_orig]

RVP offside

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RVP. :doh:

[Niall_Quinn]

We aren't Chelsea, so RvP called for offside.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Come the fuck on, how was that offside

[Maestro]

Lord .....please give us a breeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cripps_orig]

Benayoun :lol:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Need to get walcott off, he's back to being shit again.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're murdering them. Get dean on FFS.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Shyhitty is such a shit team....come on Gunners, fire the silver bullet from the canon and kill these vampires

[Niall_Quinn]

Atkinson the cheat let's the **** away with it again.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Wenger make a fucking sub for cfrists sake, Ox will murder this shite team!

[GP]

This ref is either shit or crooked. There are no other options.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

HOW THE HELL?!

[KSE Comedy Club]

OMG!!!!!!??????

[Niall_Quinn]

No way, that's a fucking miracle.

[Cripps_orig]

How did we not score there?

Benayoun is terrible

[Master Splinter]

Fucking hell.

[Rors]

That's the second one from Vermy today.......

[Maestro]

WTF ...we don't deserve to win this ...ffs Arsenal

[Niall_Quinn]

We've beaten these ****s 3or 4 times in one game even with ref pulling out all the stops. FFS.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Witchcraft in full effect here....no other explanation as to y we haven't scored

[Niall_Quinn]

Theo poor today.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Benayoun off, Ramsey on.

[Cripps_orig]

Ramsey on?

FFS

Just fuck off Wenger

[Niall_Quinn]

Yossi off Ramsey on, need a goal now boyo.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Oh look ramsey what a fucking surprise.

Walcott gets another free pass to carry on stinking up the place.

Yossi hasnt been too bad tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nasri hauled off, Kolarov on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Lesbianwhore off ****arov on.

[fakeyank]

Why the fuck is Ramsey coming on? where is Ox?!

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Benayoun off, Ramsey on.

No Ox, OMFG

[Maestro]

Better not lose this now boys, just don't fuckin' lose this one

[hobson's choice]

Why the fuck is Ramsey coming on? where is Ox?!

Arsene knows

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Song. :haha: It's not going to work every time.

[Niall_Quinn]

Song FFS

[fakeyank]

Oh look ramsey what a fucking surprise.

Walcott gets another free pass to carry on stinking up the place.

Yossi hasnt been too bad tbh.

Arsene knows :rolleyes:

[Cripps_orig]

Wtf was that, Song?

[Niall_Quinn]

Dive by the ****, Atkinson obliges as always.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Sir Ches :bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Citeh are there for the taking but no one wants to have a fucking shot.

[Niall_Quinn]

Santos you **** just shoot!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Santos. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger has to go

Tevez is due

City going for it

We arent

Says it all

[Niall_Quinn]

Carlos **** coming on, fucking disgrace of a player, suits city 100%

[fakeyank]

If AW cant see that we needed to murder them by bringing on Ox, then he doesnt even deserve to be a pub team manager. Completely lost the plot!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aguero off, Tevez on.

[Cripps_orig]

Aguero hauled off

Tevez on

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has to go

Tevez is due

City going for it

We arent

Says it all

Stfu, we've murdered them and you want to sack the manager. Very unlucky and we've had to play 14

[Newguy]

What is ox still doing on the bench??p?

[KSE Comedy Club]

OX coming on YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

should of been 20 mins ago.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Now Oxocube comes on. :doh:

Theo off.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ox inform 5 mins,theo off. Just shoot Ox.

[Cripps_orig]

Ox has 5 minutes :doh:

Just go Wenger

Theo off

Played well with Sagna he did

[hobson's choice]

Takes this long to bring on Oxtail

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ARTETA!!!!!!

[Cripps_orig]

ARTETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Love this ****

[KSE Comedy Club]

ARTETYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Master Splinter]

Arteta!!!!!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Gypsies are looking worried, spent all that cash on the ref and still getting killed.

ARTETA FUCKING GET IN

[GP]

BANG!

[GP]

Goal of the season from the signing of the season!

Arteta :bow:

[Rors]

There you go!(Was that Vince Cable in the front row on the last replay?)

[Niall_Quinn]

Fucking beautiful strike.

[Maestro]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I JUST CAME

FFS Arsenal why oh why do you do this to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Master Splinter]

Citeh are there for the taking but no one wants to have a fucking shot.

You should be manager tbh.

[Cripps_orig]

Any truth to the rumour Arteta to be fined for shooting?

Wengeritis :pal:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Arteta scoring :lol::whistle:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

What a strike.....SUPER

Arteta, the new God

[Niall_Quinn]

Mancini throwing money on the pitch but they are still losing.

[hobson's choice]

Yay, great peice of defending from Lescott:lol::lol:

[Maestro]

Lock up shop boys, hack everything that moves!

[Cripps_orig]

:whistle:Me :haha:

[hobson's choice]

Please City owners, don't sack Mancini

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Song herp derp.

[KSE Comedy Club]

You should be manager tbh.I do have my moments :tiphat:

[fakeyank]

FUCKING SHEIKHS! TAKE THAT U ARAB ****S!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Balotelli sent off finally!

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Balotelli is off

[KSE Comedy Club]

Ballotelli off!

[Rors]

:pal: :wave:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Red for Fagotelli

[GP]

70 mins late, but alright...

[Master Splinter]

Off!!!

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Finally a red for that ****. Should be his third.

[Rors]

(but Neville, never use that circus metaphor ever again...)

[Maestro]

Finally ...fucking fantastic

Spot on Gary, boy is a clown in a circus

[Master Splinter]

Strolling off the pitch.

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

21 mins stoppage time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Four added minutes, a minute of it has gone with barely any action though.

[Niall_Quinn]

Billion quid,and you fucked it up.

[Maestro]

21 mins stoppage time.

Moneytime

[hobson's choice]

The best thing that could've happen for City, is this collapsed, Mancini out, Jose in.

[KSE Comedy Club]

(but Neville, never use that circus metaphor ever again...)I thought it was pretty good tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nasri went there to win the big stuff. What's the score ****?

[Cripps_orig]

Nasri, Nasri whats the score

Nasri, Nasri whats the score

[KSE Comedy Club]

Nasri went there to win the big stuff. What's the score ****?:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Freekick to Citeh. Bollocks.

[Cripps_orig]

Man City free kcik in a dangerous position

[Niall_Quinn]

FFS free kick in a dangerous spot.

[KSE Comedy Club]

tevez taking this one too. no!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey. :haha:

That is horrendous.

[Niall_Quinn]

Omg Ramsey

[Rors]

(Ramsey :haha: )

[Cripps_orig]

Ramsey, just fuck off

[fakeyank]

Ramsey should be shot

[Master Splinter]

Ramsey :doh:.

Get him off.

[KSE Comedy Club]

RAMSEY YOU SHIT****

[hobson's choice]

So shit

[Niall_Quinn]

Rosickys face, thinking what a ****.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 FT! GET IN!

Citeh. :haha:

Arsenal. :bow:

[Maestro]

Ramsey is a flash idiot, will go the way of Bently the ****

[GP]

I'm fucking delighted.

[Cripps_orig]

1-0 FT

Despite Wengers, Citys and the refs best efforts, we won deservedly

[Niall_Quinn]

That's it boys.

Fuck of city

Fuck off Mancini

Fuck off you Arab money scum

Fuck off Atkinson

[GP]

3-1 City win

Arteta (63) Kolarov (42), Silva (57) Aguero (pen, 83)

Yeah? How'd that work out for you?

Mug :lol:

[Maestro]

Sorry guys but that shit from Ramsey just took the gloss off this for me

WTF

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm fucking delighted.

Snap, justice done.

[Niall_Quinn]

Fuck off platt, fuck off Vieria, your boys took a hell of a beating

[Master Splinter]

Yeah? How'd that work out for you?

Mug :lol:

He predicted Arteta to score.

Joker :bow:.

[Cripps_orig]

Time for Kompany to join a big club?

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah? How'd that work out for you?

Mug :lol:

He got our scorer right but totally fucked up on his lot.

[Niall_Quinn]

We can catch shitty, they'll go into free fall now.

[Master Splinter]

Arsenal :bow:.

Citeh :haha:.

Mancini :haha:.

Na$bo :haha:.

Clichy :haha:.

Kolo :haha:.

Vieira :haha:.

Money well spent :bow:.

[Niall_Quinn]

Time for Kompany to join a big club?

Yep, he's the guy we should be buying.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

1-0 FT

Despite Wengers, Citys and the refs best efforts, we won deservedly

Top contender for best f**king post ever

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hopefully Balotelli will take his anger out on Ramsey. Nothing too nasty, just a swift punch in the mush.

[GP]

He predicted Arteta to score.

Joker :bow:.

Joker/Josh/diaby-fan/MS/MO/Letters/Lord Lucan/Kaiser Soze :bow:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Joker/Josh/diaby-fan/MS/MO/Letters/Lord Lucan/Kaiser Soze :bow:

Dude what's ur f**kin prob

I always want the best for my team....I just know that the best is quite unlikely to happen under AW

He did his fair share of trying screw us over today

[GP]

Dude what's ur f**kin prob

I always want the best for my team....I just know that the best is quite unlikely to happen under AW

He did his fair share of trying screw us over today

:doh:

[Sean Goonery]

I think there should be a petition to sell Ramsey. What a bum, VP was wide open for that goal! What does Wenger see in this clown? I'd prefer Ox playing in his place.

[Cripps_orig]

Mancini :wave:

[Niall_Quinn]

Mancini :wave:

What's that, his little yellow card routine? Classless gypsy fuck he is, perfect for them.

[hobson's choice]

Mancini :wave:

I want him to stay

[Master Splinter]

Classless gypsy fuck

:haha:

It's funny because it's 100% accurate.

[Joker]

Yeah? How'd that work out for you?

Mug :lol:

OH CHANGE THE FUCKING RECORD YOU DICKHEAD, DO YOU EVER POST ANYTHING WORTHWHILE ON THIS BOARD? ALL YOU FUCKING DO IS PICK ON POSTERS YOU DON'T LIKE AND TRY TO GET A REACTION FROM THEM, AND THEN LAUGH. I DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS, SO STOP MAKING THAT ACCUSATION, WHICH IS RICH COMING FROM YOU SINCE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO CREATED A SECOND ACCOUNT TO BULLY ANOTHER POSTER.

JUST STFU YOU WANKER.

[GP]

OH CHANGE THE FUCKING RECORD YOU DICKHEAD, DO YOU EVER POST ANYTHING WORTHWHILE ON THIS BOARD? ALL YOU FUCKING DO IS PICK ON POSTERS YOU DON'T LIKE AND TRY TO GET A REACTION FROM THEM, AND THEN LAUGH. I DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS, SO STOP MAKING THAT ACCUSATION, WHICH IS RICH COMING FROM YOU SINCE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO CREATED A SECOND ACCOUNT TO BULLY ANOTHER POSTER.

JUST STFU YOU WANKER.

:lol:

[Master Splinter]

:haha:

:haha:

[Dennis Bendtner]

OH CHANGE THE FUCKING RECORD YOU DICKHEAD, DO YOU EVER POST ANYTHING WORTHWHILE ON THIS BOARD? ALL YOU FUCKING DO IS PICK ON POSTERS YOU DON'T LIKE AND TRY TO GET A REACTION FROM THEM, AND THEN LAUGH. I DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS, SO STOP MAKING THAT ACCUSATION, WHICH IS RICH COMING FROM YOU SINCE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO CREATED A SECOND ACCOUNT TO BULLY ANOTHER POSTER.

JUST STFU YOU WANKER.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/030/403/YouMad.jpg?1260647699

[GP]

:lol:

[milla]

:haha:

[Marc Overmars]

What a breakdown. :lol:

[Master Splinter]

What a breakdown. :lol:

Balotelli or Joketelli?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Balotelli or Joketelli?

Its his mental month tbh.

:pal: Joker, had city one he be as happy as larry.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Dude what's ur f**kin prob

I always want the best for my team....I just know that the best is quite unlikely to happen under AW

He did his fair share of trying screw us over today

You ass must be jealous of your mouth because a lot of shit comes out of it. How the hell did he try to screw us over.

[GP]

You ass must be jealous of your mouth because a lot of shit comes out of it. How the hell did he try to screw us over.

:lol:

Typical Joker

[Özil's Panoramic View]

You ass must be jealous of your mouth because a lot of shit comes out of it. How the hell did he try to screw us over.

go f**k yourself....y did he start Ben over Ox?

and y was Ramsey brought on b4 Ox?

[Özil's Panoramic View]

:lol:

Typical Joker

i'm sure IP addresses can easily be checked by a mod

typical stupid f***, always loves to assume wrongly

[GP]

:lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol:

Typical Joker

Yep :lol: Still waiting for the "we only won cause city were missing players" from him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

go f**k yourself....y did he start Ben over Ox?

and y was Ramsey brought on b4 Ox?

and yet we won.

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger did have a shocker today and we won despite of him, not cos of him

Says a lot that we got the goal from something that goes totally against Wengeritis football

In short, Wenger, thanks for everything but you can leave now

[Syn]

Have a day off. We were incredibly unlucky not to be winning by the time the goal went in. Van Persie hit the post, Vermaelen cleared a goalbound Van Persie header, and Vermaelen/Benayoun then made a mess of a simple chance 2 yards out.

Possession players worked today. There was nothing wrong with the tactics. I would've liked Ox on earlier but otherwise can't blame the manager. It makes sense to play possession players against teams that actually try to play on the ground. I didn't complain for the selection against Tottenham and I didn't complain today. If Benayoun starts against Wolves, I think that would be odd, but I'm quite sure he won't.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wenger did have a shocker today and we won despite of him, not cos of him

Says a lot that we got the goal from something that goes totally against Wengeritis football

In short, Wenger, thanks for everything but you can leave now

another shocker from you or you just wumming some more fore the sake of it.

[Cripps_orig]

another shocker from you or you just wumming some more fore the sake of it.Well no.

99 times out of 100 Arteta, in that position would pass out wide. Its how the team is trained. Fortunately for a second, he thought he played for Everton and thankfully it benefitted us.

I know you think Wenger and his football is alwsome but youre a 14 year old who doesnt know any better. When you pass puberty, you'll appreciate it more

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Well no.

99 times out of 100 Arteta, in that position would pass out wide. Its how the team is trained. Fortunately for a second, he thought he played for Everton and thankfully it benefitted us.

I know you think Wenger and his football is alwsome but youre a 14 year old who doesnt know any better. When you pass puberty, you'll appreciate it more

If you think that you don't know alot, But hey if it makes you feel a big man good luck to ya.

If any of us needs to hit puberty it you you numpty.

[Cripps_orig]

:lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol:

so's your face.

[Cripps_orig]

so's your face.It sure is

:lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It sure is

:lol:

But on a serious note, Do our players really need a manager to tell them to shoot ffs, they should use their brains tbh, Not saying Wenger got everything right cause he did not, think she should have bought on OX sooner but thought the starting line up was ok, no ramsey and gev can't ask for better then that.

And im in my late 20's thank you very much lol.

[Letters]

We are getting fucked in this hardcore

Whats our worse home defeat in premier league history?

:lol:

[Letters]

If AW cant see that we needed to murder them by bringing on Ox, then he doesnt even deserve to be a pub team manager. Completely lost the plot!

:lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Letters WUMming :bow:

[Letters]

Wenger has to go

Tevez is due

City going for it

We arent

Says it all

:lol:

[Letters]

Letters WUMming :bow:

:d

:tiphat:

[Cripps_orig]

I hope this gives me free reign to WUM next time i feel like it

[Syn]

I hope this gives me free reign to WUM next time i feel like it

There's a huge difference in quality. He's not actually saying anything wrong - he's just picking people up for talking garbage. Elegant move - WUMcalona.

If he was to start making shit up that even he didn't believe in order to get a reaction, then shit move - BirmingWUM City.

[Cripps_orig]

There's a huge difference in quality. He's not actually saying anything wrong - he's just picking people up for talking garbage. Elegant move - WUMcalona.

If he was to start making shit up that even he didn't believe in order to get a reaction, then shit move - BirmingWUM City.Tbf whenever i used to go through match thread and do what Letters just did, the Mods put a stop to it.

Letters is just imitating the master tbh

[Olivier's xmas twist]

There's a huge difference in quality. He's not actually saying anything wrong - he's just picking people up for talking garbage. Elegant move - WUMcalona.

If he was to start making shit up that even he didn't believe in order to get a reaction, then shit move - BirmingWUM City.

:haha:

Ach getting Owned by Syn and not for the 1st time.

[Cripps_orig]

:haha:

Ach getting Owned by Syn and not for the 1st time.Not for the last time either

[Syn]

Tbf whenever i used to go through match thread and do what Letters just did, the Mods put a stop to it.

Times have changed. Until recently, **** was the second most used word on GW. You would get away with it now.

Meh. You don't really care. You're having a laugh. He's having a laugh. It's all a bit gay so allow it tbf.

[Marc Overmars]

It's PG style WUMing tbh.

Preferred the Attitude Era on GW. People would fake their own deaths and shit.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Times have changed. Until recently, **** was the second most used word on GW. You would get away with it now.

Meh. You don't really care. You're having a laugh. He's having a laugh. It's all a bit gay so allow it tbf.

Thought that said "its all about a bit of gay Swallow lol.

But back on topic i agree, thats why i come on here. For a bit ot banter and to cheer to boys on nothing too serious like. Few posters seem to take alot of comments to heart or get bothered if they are not in a certain click.

[Coney]

Times have changed. Until recently, **** was the second most used word on GW. You would get away with it now.

Meh. You don't really care. You're having a laugh. He's having a laugh. It's all a bit gay so allow it tbf.

Cunt is not allowed? Rubbish.

[Coney]

It's PG style WUMing tbh.

Preferred the Attitude Era on GW. People would fake their own deaths and shit.

Surely you can't shit if you have already died?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Cunt is not allowed? Rubbish.

:haha:

[cricketsi]

Surely you can't shit if you have already died?

Actually corpses frequently void their bowels shortly after passing.

[The Wengerbabies]

Actually corpses frequently void their bowels shortly after passing.

You live in New Zealand now?

[cricketsi]

You live in New Zealand now?

Yes, for 6 months or so. Will probably be back in UK for Christmas. Christmas at 30 degrees in the blazing sun just isn't right! And you're alive again?!

[The Wengerbabies]

Yes, for 6 months or so. Will probably be back in UK for Christmas. Christmas at 30 degrees in the blazing sun just isn't right! And you're alive again?!

Interesting. New Zealand is a lovely place and you're far away from that brother of yours. I agree Christmas in a non winter environment is wrong.

I never died just been busy.

[cricketsi]

Interesting. New Zealand is a lovely place and you're far away from that brother of yours. I agree Christmas in a non winter environment is wrong.

I never died just been busy.

Well, welcome back anywho. I plan on hosting "Christmas" on 25th June here instead. Just need some crackers! Greg's too busy to bother talking to me these days!

[Cripps_orig]

Well, welcome back anywho. I plan on hosting "Christmas" on 25th June here instead. Just need some crackers! Greg's too busy to bother talking to me these days!Think yourself lucky.

Always been the better bro you have

[fakeyank]

:lol:

:lol:

At last count, I lost how many trophies AW has won us in the last 6 seasons? :whistle:

Ah, I forget, 3 Emirates Cups, 4th place trophies and also mental stability. SAF should be ashamed of himself and try to copy Arsene for his 'numerous' achievements.

Last heard, Mourinho was calling Arsene to tell him how AW is actually the 'special one'... the one with special needs, that is!

http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i501/222242.624super_retard_orig.jpg

[Letters]

What's gone is gone. This side look like they're heading in the right direction now.
9 wins from 10 and 3rd in the table after an awful start.

Arsenal :bow:

Wenger :bow:

:cool:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

What's gone is gone. This side look like they're heading in the right direction now.
9 wins from 10 and 3rd in the table after an awful start.

Arsenal :bow:

Wenger :bow:

:cool:

I can't help agreeing with you on this one. Thou we may not be in a title challenging position this season, the squad have been on the up for an extended period, unlike previous seasons where we fade away towards the end. For the 1st time in many moons, the team seem to be in unison, playing with pride and passion.....overall they just seem happy to be out there representing the Gunners.

I know I have been a strong advocate for AW's departure, but surely he has to be given a considerable amount of credit for our current state. I think he is where he wants to be now with this squad, but must shed the few dead weight and sign a few quality players this summer (Podolski, et al). Do that and we should be able to not only challenge for the title next season, but win it (yea I said it).

[LDG]

I can't help agreeing with you on this one. Thou we may not be in a title challenging position this season, the squad have been on the up for an extended period, unlike previous seasons where we fade away towards the end. For the 1st time in many moons, the team seem to be in unison, playing with pride and passion.....overall they just seem happy to be out there representing the Gunners.

I know I have been a strong advocate for AW's departure, but surely he has to be given a considerable amount of credit for our current state. I think he is where he wants to be now with this squad, but must shed the few dead weight and sign a few quality players this summer (Podolski, et al). Do that and we should be able to not only challenge for the title next season, but win it (yea I said it).

:faint:

This is the ideal senario.

I want us to back it up with a good finish to the season though. Can see us dropping points, but hopefully it'll be of little damage.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

What's gone is gone. This side look like they're heading in the right direction now.
9 wins from 10 and 3rd in the table after an awful start.

Arsenal :bow:

Wenger :bow:

:cool:

Top post, Team looks good and with a few quality addtions we will be up there or even winning a trophy next season. Its good to believe in this lot again tbh.

[Letters]

I can't help agreeing with you on this one. Thou we may not be in a title challenging position this season, the squad have been on the up for an extended period, unlike previous seasons where we fade away towards the end. For the 1st time in many moons, the team seem to be in unison, playing with pride and passion.....overall they just seem happy to be out there representing the Gunners.

I know I have been a strong advocate for AW's departure, but surely he has to be given a considerable amount of credit for our current state. I think he is where he wants to be now with this squad, but must shed the few dead weight and sign a few quality players this summer (Podolski, et al). Do that and we should be able to not only challenge for the title next season, but win it (yea I said it).

The important thing, for me, is that we build on it. We're looking like a good team again. A team which could sustain a serious challenge. The key word there being team. We beat City on Sunday because we're a team, they're just a group of mercenary players who have been chucked together. Yeah, they'll win a lot of games because they're good players but it takes more than that to make a good team. If we have another car crash of a summer and struggle again at the start of next season then we really are in Groundhog Day and Wenger should do the honourable thing (although I still fear things would get worse, the board aren't going anywhere). To sack him now when we're building up some serious momentum would be mad IMO.

[GP]

If the rumours of our early transfer activity are true, then all signs are positive.

Apparently Mertersacker is close to full training as well, which is nice.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The important thing, for me, is that we build on it. We're looking like a good team again. A team which could sustain a serious challenge. The key word there being team. We beat City on Sunday because we're a team, they're just a group of mercenary players who have been chucked together. Yeah, they'll win a lot of games because they're good players but it takes more than that to make a good team. If we have another car crash of a summer and struggle again at the start of next season then we really are in Groundhog Day and Wenger should do the honourable thing (although I still fear things would get worse, the board aren't going anywhere). To sack him now when we're building up some serious momentum would be mad IMO.

This, Its about Building on this not just be happy with this then not doing shite about it. This is where ambtion comes into it. At least with Poldoski we have a player who wants to play for the shirt not for the money. Lets hope the quality player who follow him are the same.

Not sure AW being the right man for the job still but if he is our manager come august ill back him into the new season if we look like we are going into the right direction then.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If the rumours of our early transfer activity are true, then all signs are positive.

Apparently Mertersacker is close to full training as well, which is nice.

Lets hope there is a marqee Sigining in there too. We need one.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:lol:

At last count, I lost how many trophies AW has won us in the last 6 seasons? :whistle:

Ah, I forget, 3 Emirates Cups, 4th place trophies and also mental stability. SAF should be ashamed of himself and try to copy Arsene for his 'numerous' achievements.

Last heard, Mourinho was calling Arsene to tell him how AW is actually the 'special one'... the one with special needs, that is!

http://www.fuckfrance.com/images/i501/222242.624super_retard_orig.jpg

Mourinho, special one? :lol:

He's on the verge of presiding over one of the worst league collapses in a long time.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Mourinho, special one? :lol:

He's on the verge of presiding over one of the worst league collapses in a long time.

Don't worry it will be blamed on Uefa, Spanish fa for favouring Barca rather then real slipping up.

[fakeyank]

Mourinho, special one? :lol:

He's on the verge of presiding over one of the worst league collapses in a long time.

2 CL with two different clubs, league championships and currently STILL leading the la liga by 4 points and not to mention, won Copa del Rey last season. He just needs to not lose to Barca in their game in a few weeks and they will win the la liga.

[Letters]

Anyone who'd want Mourinho as manager is clearly a glory hunter.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2 CL with two different clubs, league championships and currently STILL leading the la liga by 4 points and not to mention, won Copa del Rey last season. He just needs to not lose to Barca in their game in a few weeks and they will win the la liga.

He's not special, he's a very good manager though. No excuses for him if he ballses up a ten point lead within a month, at a club where he has every luxury he could wish for. Talking about what he won during the seasons Wenger won things too is a little bit odd. It could easily be just one Copa Del Rey over two seasons; that would be piss poor for a Special One.

[fakeyank]

Anyone who'd want Mourinho as manager is clearly a glory hunter.

Nobody wants him to be Arsenal manager but to deny that he is a better manager than most managers including Arsene Wenger is just retarded

[fakeyank]

He's not special, he's a very good manager though. No excuses for him if he ballses up a ten point lead within a month, at a club where he has every luxury he could wish for. Talking about what he won during the seasons Wenger won things too is a little bit odd. It could easily be just one Copa Del Rey over two seasons; that would be piss poor for a Special One.

Let the season be over first. They are leading La Liga and in the CL Semi-final currently.. realistic chance of two trophies. Not to forget, he is playing league against one of the best club teams ever to play football.

[Letters]

Nobody wants him to be Arsenal manager but to deny that he is a better manager than most managers including Arsene Wenger is just retarded

I don't think that's true, I think some people do want him as manager (there was a poll about it in Arsenal Debate sometime this season where I remember people saying just that).
I do think he's a better manager than Wenger but he's one of very few who are and he's such an uber-cock I'd never want him managing the team.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Let the season be over first. They are leading La Liga and in the CL Semi-final currently.. realistic chance of two trophies. Not to forget, he is playing league against one of the best club teams ever to play football.

Well in that case don't bring up Mourinho for no reason. Letters certainly didn't quote a post of you beforehand mentioning Mourinho.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Nobody wants him to be Arsenal manager but to deny that he is a better manager than most managers including Arsene Wenger is just retarded

Whilst you may have a point, but bringing him into an arugument to make AW look small is silly imo. End of the day Jose should really win the league this season. The point maccy was making.

What he won in the past has no relevance to this season. Only person who thinks he is the special one is himself.

This is a man who does not want the best for any club he goes too but himself, however you can not deny he is a winner. Even if it is because he spends a bucketload.

[Cripps_orig]

Tbf Real Madrid went bat shit crazy and won 20 in a row or something which opened up that 10 point gap. They were never going to sustain that run. No team wins every game so they are now just coming back to some normal level.

Wouldnt call it bottling tbf.

[Letters]

Tbf Real Madrid went bat shit crazy and won 20 in a row or something which opened up that 10 point gap. They were never going to sustain that run. No team wins every game so they are now just coming back to some normal level.

Wouldnt call it bottling tbf.

That looks very like the sort of posts I was writing after the QPR game when toys were being thrown out of the pram.
Just saying is all. :shrug:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Tbf Real Madrid went bat shit crazy and won 20 in a row or something which opened up that 10 point gap. They were never going to sustain that run. No team wins every game so they are now just coming back to some normal level.

Wouldnt call it bottling tbf.

Of course its bottling it, in a league where the winners will only be Barca or Real and real go 10 points clear and have it pegged by by teams they should be beating easily they would have bottled it if they don't win the league.

Barca have not been that good and should never really be allowed back in at all.

[Cripps_orig]

That looks very like the sort of posts I was writing after the QPR game when toys were being thrown out of the pram.
Just saying is all. :shrug:Tbf we only won 7 games in a row which is a bit shit in comparison.

Plus we arent top and before this run, we had a shocker of a season. Fortunately we hit a blip and improved with that, hit our normal level with defeat v QPR but raised ourselves for Man City.

Lets hope we continue to do so and dont go back to normal

[Cripps_orig]

Of course its bottling it, in a league where the winners will only be Barca or Real and real go 10 points clear and have it pegged by by teams they should be beating easily they would have bottled it if they don't win the league.

Barca have not been that good and should never really be allowed back in at all.Thats football. No team wins every game.

If Real were losing then yeah id call it bottling. They arent

[Letters]

Pretty average WUMming tbh.
Your normal level then.

(see what I did there?)

[fakeyank]

Well in that case don't bring up Mourinho for no reason. Letters certainly didn't quote a post of you beforehand mentioning Mourinho.

I brought SAF for no reason too. As to why I brought them both up, well because they are better managers in every way than AW. Just because Arteta saved Arsene's back by scoring a scorcher, does not take away the fact that he brought on Ramsey to play on the left AGAIN.

[Syn]

Of course its bottling it, in a league where the winners will only be Barca or Real and real go 10 points clear and have it pegged by by teams they should be beating easily they would have bottled it if they don't win the league.

Barca have not been that good and should never really be allowed back in at all.

I think the Man Utd - Bilbao games were supposed to shed light on the myth that only Barca and Real Madrid are good teams considering Barca/Madrid have to face at least one better team than Man Utd. Personally, I still think it's a lot easier to score more goals in La Liga but it's probably tougher to win games against your average team too.

[Letters]

Arteta saved Arsene's back by scoring a scorcher

Oh behave yourself. I wasn't at the game but everyone I know who saw it said we dominated throughout and should have been ahead way before we were. Yes, SAF is a better manager than Wenger. So what? Wenger not being the best manager around doesn't mean he's useless. There aren't many better.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Thats football. No team wins every game.

If Real were losing then yeah id call it bottling. They arent

Fair play and you have a point. But should real not have sown up the league by now like City should off.

[fakeyank]

Whilst you may have a point, but bringing him into an arugument to make AW look small is silly imo. End of the day Jose should really win the league this season. The point maccy was making.

What he won in the past has no relevance to this season. Only person who thinks he is the special one is himself.

This is a man who does not want the best for any club he goes too but himself, however you can not deny he is a winner. Even if it is because he spends a bucketload.

How do you know he does not want the best for any club? He left Chelsea coz the owner didnt like him, he left Inter after making them European champions and he made Porto CL winners as well. Your statement does not make any sense.

As for his past success bearing no relevance to how you look at him... well, if you are just judging by where Real are this season so far, he is still miles ahead of all managers out there.

And finally, I dont need to bring Mourinho anywhere to make AW look small. AW's achievements and team selection/tactics over the last 6-7 seasons are good enough to make him look super small.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I brought SAF for no reason too. As to why I brought them both up, well because they are better managers in every way than AW. Just because Arteta saved Arsene's back by scoring a scorcher, does not take away the fact that he brought on Ramsey to play on the left AGAIN.

Well yes but Fergie isn't on the verge of messing it up. Plus Ferguson is not the same 'careerist' type that Mourinho is. Better managers in every way does not mean they don't make odd individual personnel mistakes. In any case, Ramsey coming on did not affect the game in such a way that would mean we were going to throw the points, Ramsey going on the left is not the reason he sent one sky high from close range, which, under any other midfielder that can keep their rubber legs in check would've been a goal.

[Cripps_orig]

I brought SAF for no reason too. As to why I brought them both up, well because they are better managers in every way than AW. Just because Arteta saved Arsene's back by scoring a scorcher, does not take away the fact that he brought on Ramsey to play on the left AGAIN.This

Arteta went against what Wenger commands and took his own decision and shot from outside the area. We won despite of Wenger, not cos of him. I know some think hes the best in the world cos we won 7 in a row in a horrific season up to that point but all thats done is get us back to just about an acceptable level. We can and should do better than acceptable

[fakeyank]

Oh behave yourself. I wasn't at the game but everyone I know who saw it said we dominated throughout and should have been ahead way before we were. Yes, SAF is a better manager than Wenger. So what? Wenger not being the best manager around doesn't mean he's useless. There aren't many better.

Oh not denying we werent better. We shouldve won that game 4-0 or 5-0 but when you are in need to score a goal, you dont put a player in a position he does not play in and expect to change proceedings. To be mentioned, this is the same player who was played in that position the previous game and sucked goat balls. Not only was he bad out of position, he has been terrible in his own position, CM!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How do you know he does not want the best for any club? He left Chelsea coz the owner didnt like him, he left Inter after making them European champions and he made Porto CL winners as well. Your statement does not make any sense.

As for his past success bearing no relevance to how you look at him... well, if you are just judging by where Real are this season so far, he is still miles ahead of all managers out there.

And finally, I dont need to bring Mourinho anywhere to make AW look small. AW's achievements and team selection/tactics over the last 6-7 seasons are good enough to make him look super small.

The problem with Mourinho is that he is too abrasive a character to ever make what he wants (build a dynasty) a reality. Also, the other problem is after he leaves - he's such a cult of personality which is great for when he is at a club but afterwards...players pine to work with him again. Look at Ibrahimovic's quote about Mourinho, saying he brightens a room, whereas Guardiola pulls down the curtains.

[Cripps_orig]

Fair play and you have a point. But should real not have sown up the league by now like City should off.No cos its not that simple

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I think the Man Utd - Bilbao games were supposed to shed light on the myth that only Barca and Real Madrid are good teams considering Barca/Madrid have to face at least one better team than Man Utd. Personally, I still think it's a lot easier to score more goals in La Liga but it's probably tougher to win games against your average team too.

Lets be real though the Mancs should have beatern bilbao and had they had a better team like they should have they would have.

Not saying all teams in la liga are bad, but if bilbao were in our league where would they finish?

How do you know he does not want the best for any club? He left Chelsea coz the owner didnt like him, he left Inter after making them European champions and he made Porto CL winners as well. Your statement does not make any sense.

As for his past success bearing no relevance to how you look at him... well, if you are just judging by where Real are this season so far, he is still miles ahead of all managers out there.

And finally, I dont need to bring Mourinho anywhere to make AW look small. AW's achievements and team selection/tactics over the last 6-7 seasons are good enough to make him look super small.

Ok so maybe saying he does not want the best for clubs is wrong, but i don't think he cares for clubs more them himself.
Because everything is about him not the club thats why, all the club he has been at the circus has been about him. he don't give a shit about the future of the teams he left.

As for you using him to belittle AW you, do we know he is a better manager then AW and it would take a brave man(poster) to say otherwise, i don't see why you need to compare them, its like comapring barcelona with Villa.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This

Arteta went against what Wenger commands and took his own decision and shot from outside the area. We won despite of Wenger, not cos of him. I know some think hes the best in the world cos we won 7 in a row in a horrific season up to that point but all thats done is get us back to just about an acceptable level. We can and should do better than acceptable

This would make sense if Wenger 'commanded' RVP to hit the post, Vermaelen to clear one inexplicably, Benayoun and Vermaelen to collapse in the six yard box and Ramsey to be a palooka. You could easily say we won 'because' of Wenger as he is the one that bought Arteta, someone that does 'take his own decision'.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No cos its not that simple

Well it is suppose had it been barca who were 10 points clear and Real pulled it back you be branded them bottlers by now. Non?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

This

Arteta went against what Wenger commands and took his own decision and shot from outside the area. We won despite of Wenger, not cos of him. I know some think hes the best in the world cos we won 7 in a row in a horrific season up to that point but all thats done is get us back to just about an acceptable level. We can and should do better than acceptable

Even if W did tell any of his players not to shoot, They should use their brains when they have a chance to shoot and shoot.
But respect to Wenger for buying a player with balls even if it was a panic buy.

Just because he says pass pass does nto mean these lot can't uses their brains.

[Syn]

Lets be real though the Mancs should have beatern bilbao and had they had a better team like they should have they would have.

Not saying all teams in la liga are bad, but if bilbao were in our league where would they finish?

Tbh I genuinely think - on the basis of those two games, mind - that Bilbao are on the same sort of level as Man Utd. Certainly technically, Bilbao are on another level. Maybe Man Utd's grit and Englishness could get them a few more points over the course of the season.

On the basis of those 2 games (...and I don't think Man Utd gave up at any point - they were just completely outplayed), Bilbao would be right up there on our league. But obviously it's not fair to judge them on those two games only - maybe they did put extra efforts into that. Hard to tell. The point was though that there do seem to be some very good teams in Spain. The fact that Barca and Real Madrid are so clear is probably more a reflection of their quality rather than the chasing pack.

[Letters]

Oh not denying we werent better. We shouldve won that game 4-0 or 5-0 but when you are in need to score a goal, you dont put a player in a position he does not play in and expect to change proceedings. To be mentioned, this is the same player who was played in that position the previous game and sucked goat balls. Not only was he bad out of position, he has been terrible in his own position, CM!
To be fair I don't think Wenger is a great tactician or a great motivator. To win trophies he's always needed a strong captain to provide the latter. I think we may have that now (if he stays) and as for great players...well, maybe not like at our best under Wenger but we do look to have the makings of a pretty decent side now. Need a few reinforcements but I don't think we're that far away.
Wenger has failed in some ways in the last 6 years but in other ways he's done well given the amount spent. You really shouldn't underestimate how hard it is to keep a side in the top 4 every single season. No-one bar Fergie has done it, it really isn't that easy. Given that he's done that we should have won some trophies along the way, that is where he has failed. The question for me is whether we're going in the right direction and I'm more hopeful for next season. Right now I am and IMO changing manager would be a far bigger disruption than it's worth, other clubs at our level have changed manager after a few trophyless seasons and it rarely improves things - sometimes temporarily in the honeymoon period but longer term it doesn't tend to.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Tbh I genuinely think - on the basis of those two games, mind - that Bilbao are on the same sort of level as Man Utd. Certainly technically, Bilbao are on another level. Maybe Man Utd's grit and Englishness could get them a few more points over the course of the season.

On the basis of those 2 games (...and I don't think Man Utd gave up at any point - they were just completely outplayed), Bilbao would be right up there on our league. But obviously it's not fair to judge them on those two games only - maybe they did put extra efforts into that. Hard to tell. The point was though that there do seem to be some very good teams in Spain. The fact that Barca and Real Madrid are so clear is probably more a reflection of their quality rather than the chasing pack.

Your not wrong Bilbao were much better and the Mancs were bad. (this is the team that will win our league). Says how bad our league really is tbh when a UTD will win the league because no one has really challenged them and city bottled it.

But i suppose your right there are a few better teams in spain.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tbh I genuinely think - on the basis of those two games, mind - that Bilbao are on the same sort of level as Man Utd. Certainly technically, Bilbao are on another level. Maybe Man Utd's grit and Englishness could get them a few more points over the course of the season.

On the basis of those 2 games (...and I don't think Man Utd gave up at any point - they were just completely outplayed), Bilbao would be right up there on our league. But obviously it's not fair to judge them on those two games only - maybe they did put extra efforts into that. Hard to tell. The point was though that there do seem to be some very good teams in Spain. The fact that Barca and Real Madrid are so clear is probably more a reflection of their quality rather than the chasing pack.

The funny thing about Bilbao is, prior to Bielsa going there, they were far more Premier League-esque in style. Just goes to show what can be done with players willing to play in a different way. And I concur, think they'd be top half certainly, most teams would struggle against their work on the ball - I mean we've got top four in the past by playing football you wouldn't associate with the best way of playing in England. Bilbao are low down in La Liga comparitively but they're competing against teams that are encouraged to keep the ball too and some much better at it, plus they aren't used to coping with two extra competitions (they're in the Copa Del Rey final).

[fakeyank]

To be fair I don't think Wenger is a great tactician or a great motivator. To win trophies he's always needed a strong captain to provide the latter. I think we may have that now (if he stays) and as for great players...well, maybe not like at our best under Wenger but we do look to have the makings of a pretty decent side now. Need a few reinforcements but I don't think we're that far away.
Wenger has failed in some ways in the last 6 years but in other ways he's done well given the amount spent. You really shouldn't underestimate how hard it is to keep a side in the top 4 every single season. No-one bar Fergie has done it, it really isn't that easy. Given that he's done that we should have won some trophies along the way, that is where he has failed. The question for me is whether we're going in the right direction and I'm more hopeful for next season. Right now I am and IMO changing manager would be a far bigger disruption than it's worth, other clubs at our level have changed manager after a few trophyless seasons and it rarely improves things - sometimes temporarily in the honeymoon period but longer term it doesn't tend to.

What gives you more hope about next season than about previous seasons? Myself along with other users have seen this over the years and frankly speaking, I just do not understand what is different this season that hasnt happened before?

- We go on unbeaten runs and make the supporters think we have turned the corner... check
- We look like we are just a couple of re-enforcements short of challenging again.. check
- We look to be doing our transfers done early in a season, doesnt ever happen.. check
- We look to finally have a good captain.. only for him to jump ship either the following summer or the next.. check

[Letters]

What gives you more hope about next season than about previous seasons?

A strong captain (if he leaves we're screwed of course but I don't think he will)

More mental strength (winning 4 games in a row when we were behind, bouncing back from the QPR loss to beat City, winning games when other teams have slipped up to take advantage)

A real team spirit which hasn't been there in the past few years and players who have far more of a connection with the fans and seem to really care about the club (RvP, Ox, Ches, Jack if he's still alive)

Far stronger rumours about early signings than other seasons. The Podolski signing looks to be a done deal.

If you can't see that this looks different to other seasons then you've not been watching recently. It's not just me that feels this way.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

What gives you more hope about next season than about previous seasons? Myself along with other users have seen this over the years and frankly speaking, I just do not understand what is different this season that hasnt happened before?

- We go on unbeaten runs and make the supporters think we have turned the corner... check
- We look like we are just a couple of re-enforcements short of challenging again.. check
- We look to be doing our transfers done early in a season, doesnt ever happen.. check
- We look to finally have a good captain.. only for him to jump ship either the following summer or the next.. check


Oh come on FY even you have to admit, there is a diffrence between this season ending at last.


Last year u felt horrible going into the summer, with Cesc and Nasri both leaving, the sqaud bottled the season and thats the truth, looked like we do even worse this season. Just seemed the club did not know where it was going

Like letters says the mental strength seems to have improved better then last season, we seem not have any drama's of players leaving in the summer.


I feel the club, manager, know what needs to be done and hopfully will do it. we don't have a Cesc saga to stop us strenhening etc.

With the news were are doing our business early seems exciting. Things can only get better after all.

[Letters]

If you've been to any games recently you'll know what I'm talking about.
There is a different feeling right now. More of a connection between fans and players (something sadly lacking of late).
That doesn't mean that the outcome next season will be different of course but the feeling right now is, you can feel it on match day.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

A strong captain (if he leaves we're screwed of course but I don't think he will)

More mental strength (winning 4 games in a row when we were behind, bouncing back from the QPR loss to beat City, winning games when other teams have slipped up to take advantage)

A real team spirit which hasn't been there in the past few years and players who have far more of a connection with the fans and seem to really care about the club (RvP, Ox, Ches, Jack if he's still alive)

Far stronger rumours about early signings than other seasons. The Podolski signing looks to be a done deal.

If you can't see that this looks different to other seasons then you've not been watching recently. It's not just me that feels this way.

:gp:

People are so used to living in the past they don't want to give the future a chance.

If as a fan you can't get excited about a new season then i just don't know.

[fakeyank]

A strong captain (if he leaves we're screwed of course but I don't think he will)

More mental strength (winning 4 games in a row when we were behind, bouncing back from the QPR loss to beat City, winning games when other teams have slipped up to take advantage)

A real team spirit which hasn't been there in the past few years and players who have far more of a connection with the fans and seem to really care about the club (RvP, Ox, Ches, Jack if he's still alive)

Far stronger rumours about early signings than other seasons. The Podolski signing looks to be a done deal.

If you can't see that this looks different to other seasons then you've not been watching recently. It's not just me that feels this way.

A lot of people thought the same about Cesc. He looked like a great captain but on hindsight, he looks to be just about average.

We have gone on unbeaten runs in the last 6 seasons without fail. In 07/08, we were unbeaten till about Jan/Feb I think, in 08/09 we went 16-17 games unbeaten, 09/10 we had a great run after the Chelsea defeat at Emirates (my first game at Emirates) till we decided to fold and die towards March (remember the loss to Wigan after leading 2-0 till 85 min?) then last season we were in 4 trophies till Feb.. what happened afterwards? I just do not see a different pattern this season to think it will be different.

As for team spirit- remember 07/08 when we thought that team looked awesome- Flamini, Cesc, Hleb, Rosicky, Ade looking unbeatable. How about the season before last when Ramsey's leg was snapped.. we thought after that game at Stoke, we'd take it to the next level. Remember 'Let's do it for Rambo'? I see no difference in this team spirit mentality bollocks of this season. I hope I am wrong but history tells me otherwise!

Podolski has been signed, so was Nasri and Chamakh a few seasons back. What was ignored was the need for re-enforcement's in defense and up front.

As for your last statement, No, I cannot see the difference unfortunately. Once again, I re-iterate, I hope I am wrong. I have said this for the last 3-4 seasons but unfortunately I get proven right!

[fakeyank]

Oh come on FY even you have to admit, there is a diffrence between this season ending at last.


Last year u felt horrible going into the summer, with Cesc and Nasri both leaving, the sqaud bottled the season and thats the truth, looked like we do even worse this season. Just seemed the club did not know where it was going

Like letters says the mental strength seems to have improved better then last season, we seem not have any drama's of players leaving in the summer.


I feel the club, manager, know what needs to be done and hopfully will do it. we don't have a Cesc saga to stop us strenhening etc.

With the news were are doing our business early seems exciting. Things can only get better after all.

What makes you think we wont have the same saga for RVP? He hasnt signed a deal yet and the longer it goes, the more rich boys will come sniffing!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

What makes you think we wont have the same saga for RVP? He hasnt signed a deal yet and the longer it goes, the more rich boys will come sniffing!

In Honesty he seems to love this club, The Cesc thing went on for about a few years and he was only going to Barce which messed us up.

RVP has no ties so even if he did go it would be quicker and for a decnt fee.

even if he goes we have podolski coming in which is a quality replacement.

I just think compared to last season it seems diffrent. Me personally was miserable going into last summer just did not know what was going to happen or where the club was going.

now it seems with investment in the team and the core players we have next season could be a top 1.

[Letters]

A lot of people thought the same about Cesc.

No they didn't. A captain that spends all their time making eyes at another club isn't a great one. I do think he did his best for us while he was with us but he clearly had one eye elsewhere all the time. I don't think anyone thought he was a great captain. He did OK but there were depressingly few other options. There was an article earlier in the season when we started to get it together citing RvP as one of the reasons, organising days out and helping the players build some team spirit. Also I think we have other strong characters in the squad like Ches, Jack and the Verminator. I hear the last of those cocked up at QPR but he ran 80 yards in the 95th minute to put the ball in the net vs Newcastle so you have to give him some credit there.

You don't see the difference partly because you take such a black and white view on things (Mourinho is a GENIUS with no faults, Wenger is an IDIOT with no redeeming features - I may be somewhat exaggerating your stance but that's how it comes across), and partly because you don't go to games. If you did you'd feel the difference, especially the connection between the players and between the players and fans. That's something you don't see on TV.

I hope you're wrong too and I hope I'm right. I am the eternal optimist and I do maybe take a too rosy view of things but I see us heading in the right direction and I hope it continues as I'm sure you do. Wenger has his faults as do all managers but he deserves some credit after the mess in last summer (I've no idea whose fault that was, Wenger is not blameless but I don't think he should get all the blame) and getting the team playing again. Who'd have thought we'd be top 3 right now? Not me. To deny him any credit for that is massively unfair. Will we push on from here? We'll see. I'm sure you hope we do as much as me.

[Marc Overmars]

I am the eternal optimist .

No you're not.