Get Pep!

[Power n Glory]

Pep has stepped down as Barca's coach. Would he be an ideal coach to takeover from Wenger?

[Marc Overmars]

I've always found it hard going to categorically say who I want to replace Wenger, but this season I believe Pep is the man and I would welcome him with open arms if he replaced Wenger tomorrow. Plays good football, demands an intense work ethic and is strong on discipline, has all the right ingredients IMO.

The problem is that Wenger won't be going anywhere until 2014 at the earliest, by then Pep will probably have found another club.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I've always found it hard going to categorically say who I want to replace Wenger, but this season I believe Pep is the man and I would welcome him with open arms if he replaced Wenger tomorrow. Plays good football, demands an intense work ethic and is strong on discipline, has all the right ingredients IMO.

The problem is that Wenger won't be going anywhere until 2014 at the earliest, by then Pep will probably have found another club.

He's my choice to Replace AW tbh, like you id love him to come now if the choice was there. But as he is taken a year out it won't happen.

[Letters]

Pep has stepped down as Barca's coach. Would he be an ideal coach to takeover from Wenger?
I've heard worse ideas.

[Flavs]

He's off to Liverpool isnt he?

[Kano]

i think pep will struggle in his next job

[Marc Overmars]

i think pep will struggle in his next job

He's certainly not going to hit the heights he did with Barca, by default because the odds of creating another "best team ever" are pretty slim.

I think it's important he finds the right club. I just hope he doesn't end up at somewhere like Chelsea or City, 2-bit clubs with no honour or prestige with a sense of entitlement.

He strikes me as potentially being "project" manager and that's why I think he's suitable for us. I can also see him as Fergie's successor.

[Joker]

Would love him to take over from Wenger at the end of the season tbh, but I can see Wenger carrying on for another 3 years at least, but which time Pep will have probably found a job as MO says.

[Syn]

Not convinced about Guardiola. As someone else said - let's see how he gets on in his next job. I could've won a lot of trophies if I had messi in my team.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not convinced about Guardiola. As someone else said - let's see how he gets on in his next job. I could've won a lot of trophies if I had messi in my team.

True but then it was Guardiola that moved Messi to a more central role some time in 2008. Perhaps it was a no-brainer but it's a little bit more than just letting him do what he wants - very similar in a way to how Wenger utilised Henry for us.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Not convinced about Guardiola. As someone else said - let's see how he gets on in his next job. I could've won a lot of trophies if I had messi in my team.

On the one hand id say you have a point i mean look at Rikjard won loads with Barca but now he seems to be no where to be seen.

On the other hand, this is the man who got rid of Deco/Ronaldinho/Imbrahimvic and Eto and people said Barca would struggle with those loses. But Pep turned it around and made the one of the Best clubs side if not the Best club side ever, and this is from someone who prefred Rijkards Barca tbh.

But this Barca side seems to have set some sort of blue print of how the game should be played and that is down to Pep.

[Syn]

Fair enough, Charlie. :good:

[fakeyank]

Pep to replace Vinegar?!?! Fuck yea! Not going to happen though, is it.. :(

[Özim]

He's taking a year off, plus he likes his teams to play pass pass football which I hate...so no thanks from me.

In addition everytime he's played Chelsea his team have struggled, even when they won through a few years back.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's taking a year off, plus he likes his teams to play pass pass football which I hate...so no thanks from me.

In addition everytime he's played Chelsea his team have struggled, even when they won through a few years back.

And yet his pass pass footie had let to 2 Cl titles a load of la liga's and Spanish cups can't be all bad tbh.

Best manager in the world tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He's taking a year off, plus he likes his teams to play pass pass football which I hate...so no thanks from me.

In addition everytime he's played Chelsea his team have struggled, even when they won through a few years back.

I'm sure you'd stomach it if it led to trophies.

[fakeyank]

And yet his pass pass footie had let to 2 Cl titles a load of la liga's and Spanish cups can't be all bad tbh.

Third Best manager in the world tbh.

1. Sir Alex
2. Mourinho

[Olivier's xmas twist]

1. Sir Alex
2. Mourinho

Meh id take Pep over them 2 lol.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1. Sir Alex
2. Mourinho

I'd discount them from this discussion on the fair and equitable basis of them being complete shitheads.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I'm sure you'd stomach it if it led to trophies.

:haha:

No Zimm hates pass pass he prefers the counter attacking stuff.

Unless Jose is the manager then he prefer to win by hoofing it.

[Cripps_orig]

No thanks

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No thanks

I knew you always rated Wenger tbf.

[Cripps_orig]

Id rather have Wenger fail every season than have Pep

[McNamara That Ghost...]

You've taken your hate of all things Barcelona related to unprecedented heights. Well done.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Id rather have Wenger fail every season than have Pep

Ach :pal:

Rather have wenger then pep.

[Cripps_orig]

Ach :pal:

Rather have wenger then pep.Im an Arsenal fan...not a Barca one like you :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Im an Arsenal fan...not a Barca one like you :coffee:

Im not a Barca fan and Pep is not a Barca Manager.

[Cripps_orig]

Im not a Barca fan and Pep is not a Barca Manager.Has he left then?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Has he left then?



More or less.

[Cripps_orig]

More or less.I just got back from work and havent read anything about it

Has he left now or end of the season?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

End of the season.

[Cripps_orig]

Good news

Gives Bilbao a better chance in the final

[Özim]

:haha:

No Zimm hates pass pass he prefers the counter attacking stuff.

Unless Jose is the manager then he prefer to win by hoofing it.
Pass pass if f*cking boring to be honest, had 7 years of this sh*t don't want another 7. Been bored out of my mind watching the cr*p we've played for years, sure Barca are a step up from the stuff we played but it's still incredibly repetitive at times, the only thing that makes it better is the fact they have some great players.

Watching them against Chelsea was painful, they really struggled to do anything and kept trying to pass it through the middle.

[Özim]

And yet his pass pass footie had let to 2 Cl titles a load of la liga's and Spanish cups can't be all bad tbh.

Best manager in the world tbh.
Chequebook manager tbh, let's see him do it with a middle table team :coffee:

[Letters]

Pass pass if f*cking boring to be honest, had 7 years of this sh*t don't want another 7. Been bored out of my mind watching the cr*p we've played for years, sure Barca are a step up from the stuff we played but it's still incredibly repetitive at times, the only thing that makes it better is the fact they have some great players.

Watching them against Chelsea was painful, they really struggled to do anything and kept trying to pass it through the middle.
Messi hit the bar with a pen, they hit the post, they had quite a few other chances. They spanked Chelsea who desperately defended and rode their luck.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Pass pass if f*cking boring to be honest, had 7 years of this sh*t don't want another 7. Been bored out of my mind watching the cr*p we've played for years, sure Barca are a step up from the stuff we played but it's still incredibly repetitive at times, the only thing that makes it better is the fact they have some great players.

Watching them against Chelsea was painful, they really struggled to do anything and kept trying to pass it through the middle.

I think it was more to do with chavs being good at the back, And it has been effective for them unlike us.

But i preferd Rikjards Barca Personally that Attacking stuff was much better and i think he had better players as well.


I just got back from work and havent read anything about it

Has he left now or end of the season?

Ah soz, End of the season he goes well in a few weeks i guess.

Press confrence was live on SSN Most of the players were nearly in tears. You could tell Cesc was upset moved all the way for his idol and now he won't have him.

[Syn]

After years of reading Zimm's garbage, this is the first time he has shown some consistency to his preferred footballing style instead of just backing whatever **** is winning trophies at all costs. The commitment to Mourinho's style makes no sense though so it's not a full recovery.

[Joker]

I think Barca are a bit one dimensional (although that one dimension is pretty awesome on most occasions) and the reason they haven't needed a plan B is because plan A has worked so well until now. So I don't blame Guardiola for tactical failings tbh, unlike Wenger who's persisted with a failed style of football for 6 years now.

[Cripps_orig]

Ah soz, End of the season he goes well in a few weeks i guess.

Press confrence was live on SSN Most of the players were nearly in tears. You could tell Cesc was upset moved all the way for his idol and now he won't have him.Really?

:haha:

I need to see this.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

After years of reading Zimm's garbage, this is the first time he has shown some consistency to his preferred footballing style instead of just backing whatever **** is winning trophies at all costs. The commitment to Mourinho's style makes no sense though so it's not a full recovery.

This the same Zimm who said he did not care How the league was won if we had Jose in Charge.

But if we won it Peps Pass pass Footie he'd hate it.


Chequebook manager tbh, let's see him do it with a middle table team :coffee:




Yep thats why when they won the CL last 7 out of the 11 players were from the Barca Academy. Unlike your bou Jose you splashes 300 mill where ever he goes.

Pep has never really spent big since he has been there, mainly because he has not needed to with the sqaud he had.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I think Barca are a bit one dimensional (although that one dimension is pretty awesome on most occasions) and the reason they haven't needed a plan B is because plan A has worked so well until now. So I don't blame Guardiola for tactical failings tbh, unlike Wenger who's persisted with a failed style of football for 6 years now.

But its not A failed style Swansea have proved that its only Wenger has not bought the players for it thats the diffence.

[Cripps_orig]

Yep thats why when they won the CL last 7 out of the 11 players were from the Barca Academy. Unlike your bou Jose you splashes 300 mill where ever he goes.

Pep has never really spent big since he has been there, mainly because he has not needed to with the sqaud he had.He won it with Rijkaards team. Most of his signings, the jury is still out, none have been a major success and the youth players he brought through are alwful like Tello, Thiago etc

[Joker]

But its not A failed style Swansea have proved that its only Wenger has not bought the players for it thats the diffence.

Yes sorry I should have rephrased that. You're right, the style as such can work, but you need top quality technicians to make it work, which we do not have. That is Wenger's fault.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He won it with Rijkaards team. Most of his signings, the jury is still out, none have been a major success and the youth players he brought through are alwful like Tello, Thiago etc

Like i said he has not spent mone cause he did not need too. But like you say not any manager can manage a succesful team and he did.

Even when he let the top players go he still managed to keep Barca a Success. Not saying he will do that with us or he will come to us. We maybe better getting klopp. But id never say no to Pep he had done amazing.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yes sorry I should have rephrased that. You're right, the style as such can work, but you need top quality technicians to make it work, which we do not have. That is Wenger's fault.

:gp:

[Özim]

Like i said he has not spent mone cause he did not need too. But like you say not any manager can manage a succesful team and he did.

Even when he let the top players go he still managed to keep Barca a Success. Not saying he will do that with us or he will come to us. We maybe better getting klopp. But id never say no to Pep he had done amazing.
Villa, Alves, Chygrinski, Mascherano, Ibrahimovic, Cáceres all pretty big transfers if you ask me on top of an already great squad.

He's done well, don't like his style of football though and think that he's had plenty of money to spend as well, for me though he's another Wenger in a sense he won't change something as was proved against Chelsea as they kept trying to play through the middle and had no alternative to a tactic which wasn't working too well against 10 men.

[Özim]

Messi hit the bar with a pen, they hit the post, they had quite a few other chances. They spanked Chelsea who desperately defended and rode their luck.
They were playing 10 men with a makeshift defence on top of that, to be honest what they created was poor I watched it. They had a lot of possession but not that many chances all things considered.

[Ernesto]

1. Sir Alex
2. Mourinho

See, a lot of people say that FakeYank, and I can kinda see where they're coming from (history of trophies, etc). However, if we're looking at a certain point in time, given comparative resources, given the style of football they play, then Pep at Barcelona has to be the best in the world.

[Cripps_orig]

He bought success.

Pretty clear to everyone

[Ernesto]

Yes sorry I should have rephrased that. You're right, the style as such can work, but you need top quality technicians to make it work, which we do not have. That is Wenger's fault.

This. In a nutshell. If we don't have the technicians, and if we can't get the technicians, then we need Hiddink. A manager who can do the very best with what is at his disposal.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hiddink will be spending money galore at Anzhi, I don't really have that much time for him anyway.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Villa, Alves, Chygrinski, Ibrahimovic, Cáceres all pretty big transfers if you ask me on top of an already great squad.

He's done well, don't like his style of football though and think that he's had plenty of money to spend as well, for me though he's another Wenger in a sense he won't change something as was proved against Chelsea as they kept trying to play through the middle and had no alternative to a tactic which wasn't working too well against 10 men.

Rikjard bought those these they were there before pep got there. he has spent money but not much.

[Özim]

Rikjard bought those these they were there before pep got there. he has spent money but not much.
Nope, they were all bought by Guardiola:



2008–09 season
In association with Barça's director of sport, Txiki Begiristain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Txiki_Begiristain), several new signings were made by Guardiola: Daniel Alves (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Alves) and Seydou Keita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seydou_Keita_%28footballer%29) arrived from Sevilla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevilla_FC), Martín Cáceres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart%C3%ADn_C%C3%A1ceres) from Villarreal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villarreal_CF) by way of Recreativo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreativo_de_Huelva), Gerard Piqué (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Piqu%C3%A9) returned from Manchester United (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.), and Alexander Hleb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hleb) was signed from Arsenal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_F.C.). Henrique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrique_Adriano_Buss) was also signed from Palmeiras (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociedade_Esportiva_Palmeiras), but was immediately loaned out to Bayer Leverkusen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_04_Leverkusen).[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Guardiola#cite_note-17) In interviews with the press, Guardiola stressed a harder work ethic than before, but also a more personal approach during training and a closer relationship with his players. Along with the new signings, Guardiola promoted canteranos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantera) Sergio Busquets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Busquets), Pedro Rodríguez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Rodr%C3%ADguez_Ledesma) and Jeffrén Suárez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffr%C3%A9n_Su%C3%A1rez) to the first team squad. His influences as a coach include mostly Johan Cruyff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Cruyff), but also Louis van Gaal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_van_Gaal), Juan Manuel Lillo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Manuel_Lillo) and Marcelo Bielsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcelo_Bielsa).

2009–10 season
During Guardiola's second season (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_FC_Barcelona_season) as manager Barcelona traded Samuel Eto'o and €49 million for Zlatan Ibrahimović (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatan_Ibrahimovi%C4%87). The club also signed Maxwell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell_Cabelino_Andrade) from Internazionale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Internazionale_Milano) and Dmytro Chygrynskiy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Chygrynskiy) from Shakhtar Donetsk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Shakhtar_Donetsk). Many players left the club on the same transfer window; Eiður Guðjohnsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ei%C3%B0ur_Gu%C3%B0johnsen) was sold to Monaco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Monaco_FC), Sylvinho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvinho) and Albert Jorquera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Jorquera)'s contracts ended and other players were loaned out, including Alexander Hleb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hleb) to Stuttgart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VfB_Stuttgart), Martín Cáceres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart%C3%ADn_C%C3%A1ceres) to Juventus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juventus_F.C.), Alberto Botía (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Bot%C3%ADa) to Sporting de Gijón (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporting_de_Gij%C3%B3n) and Víctor Sánchez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADctor_S%C3%A1nchez_Mata) to Xerez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerez_CD).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josep_Guardiola

[Cripps_orig]

Rikjard bought those these they were there before pep got there. he has spent money but not much.:blink:

Pep bought them

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Villa, Alves, Chygrinski, Mascherano, Ibrahimovic, Cáceres all pretty big transfers if you ask me on top of an already great squad.

He's done well, don't like his style of football though and think that he's had plenty of money to spend as well, for me though he's another Wenger in a sense he won't change something as was proved against Chelsea as they kept trying to play through the middle and had no alternative to a tactic which wasn't working too well against 10 men.
Stop speaking sense.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Nope, they were all bought by Guardiola:

Even so he still has not splashed out loads like the guy at Madrid.

Most of Peps players have come from the youth system even when he sold the top players they were still succesful. Id like to see if Jose Sold Madrids top players and playing with players from the youth team how well he'd do.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Can't believe some people on here don't want the most succefull manager of the last 3 years because he either plays poor footie or managed the best team in the world last season.

[Cripps_orig]

Even so he still has not splashed out loads like the guy at Madrid.

Most of Peps players have come from the youth system even when he sold the top players they were still succesful. Id like to see if Jose Sold Madrids top players and playing with players from the youth team how well he'd do.Joses hardly spent much

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Joses hardly spent much

He has spent a fair whach tbh, ok so Madrid had a good sqaud when he got there but he bought in a few players over the last few years.

He'd have spent more then pepe in the last 2 years.

[Özim]

Even so he still has not splashed out loads like the guy at Madrid.

Most of Peps players have come from the youth system even when he sold the top players they were still succesful. Id like to see if Jose Sold Madrids top players and playing with players from the youth team how well he'd do.
Nonsense, he's spent loads...Ibrahimovic alone cost a small fortune as did Villa and Cesc.

He's spent plenty that's a fact.

[Özim]

Can't believe some people on here don't want the most succefull manager of the last 3 years because he either plays poor footie or managed the best team in the world last season.
I don't believe he'll bring success, the Barca formula won't work with the players we have nor will it work without spending big time...in addition I don't want us playing that tippy tappy cr*p we've been playing for years.

[Cripps_orig]

Zlatan :lol:

£45m plus Eto'o which takes it up to £70m+

And Pep doesnt spend money?

:doh:

[Özim]

Zlatan :lol:

£45m plus Eto'o which takes it up to £70m+

And Pep doesnt spend money?

:doh:
Got to be one of the worst signings in history surely, Mourinho did a good job with that deal for sure.

[Cripps_orig]

Got to be one of the worst signings in history surely, Mourinho did a good job with that deal for sure.Pretty much and i like Zlatan but he was terrible for them and certainly not worth that.

Dont forget that Ukranian dude for £20m+ who was terrible and sold asap

Cesc is going to Birmingham this summer as a failure

Villa, again hit and miss. Had his longest drought ever while at Barca and now has a long term injury.

Mascherano has been too shit in DM so move back to CB so another failure

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Oh dear and they wonder why GW has no new posters.

[Cripps_orig]

Oh dear and they wonder why GW has no new posters.Cos the truth is spoken about Barca?

[Özim]

Pretty much and i like Zlatan but he was terrible for them and certainly not worth that.

Dont forget that Ukranian dude for £20m+ who was terrible and sold asap

Cesc is going to Birmingham this summer as a failure

Villa, again hit and miss. Had his longest drought ever while at Barca and now has a long term injury.

Mascherano has been too shit in DM so move back to CB so another failure
Yup agree with that, the players he's added haven't been as good as they should have been, it's really the regulars who have driven that team, players who were there when he arrived.

Barca were winning before he arrived.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Cos the truth is spoken about Barca?


If you took that from what i said then your a numpty.

[Özim]

Oh dear and they wonder why GW has no new posters.
Why because people give their opinions about maybe what he's achieved isn't as spectacular as it might appear on paper?

I don't like his football and wouldn't want him as manager, it amazes me, you discredit Mourinho for all his achievements at multiple clubs...but think that a guy who inherited a winning team with loads of money and has only succeeded at one club is miles better.

Mourinho has already beaten him to the title and it's only take him 2 seasons.

We'll see how Guardiola does next time round, but I suspect that other than tippy tappy football you won't see much else, that's unless he inherits another winning team.

[Cripps_orig]

Why because people give their opinions about maybe what he's achieved isn't as spectacular as it might appear on paper?

I don't like his football and wouldn't want him as manager, it amazes me, you discredit Mourinho for all his achievements at multiple clubs...but think that a guy who inherited a winning team with loads of money and has only succeeded at one club is miles better.

Mourinho has already beaten him to the title and it's only take him 2 seasons.

We'll see how Guardiola does next time round, but I suspect that other than tippy tappy football you won't see much else, that's unless he inherits another winning team.Pretty much

Barca were touted as the best in the world ever. Mourinho comes in to rival them and 2 seasons later, Barca are in turmoil.

Some best side ever they turned out to be :lol:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yup agree with that, the players he's added haven't been as good as they should have been, it's really the regulars who have driven that team, players who were there when he arrived.

Barca were winning before he arrived.

Well obviously and i never said they were not. But its not like he had to spend 500 mill on a new team is it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He didn't inherit a winning team Zim, they hadn't won a trophy for two seasons. Anyway, this is stupid. Out of all the options that are likely to be available, Guardiola is the best on offer (given we know he will be without a club).

[Dennis Bendtner]

The transfer policy has been a bit shit (whoever sanctioned that Ibrahimovic deal deserves a season ticket at the Britannia). And Aliaksandr Pleb was the greatest freeloader of his time. But those players who were there weren't performing at the level of recent years before Guardiola. He definitely maxed them out, and that deserves real credit. Hard to believe now that Xavi wasn't even in the team in the 2006 Champions League final. And Iniesta was a sub was he not? Think he came on at HT for some pubber. Guardiola's dedication and results in that regard are amazing. I think some of those transfers were motivated by a Twitchy complex of needing to have a transfer fix. It's not like any of them compromised Barcelona's success in those seasons. Apart from Cesc :haha:. I don't see much reason as to why Guardiola couldn't succeed elsewhere. He might be able to turn Denilson into Iniesta. But obviously all this has to be proven.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Why because people give their opinions about maybe what he's achieved isn't as spectacular as it might appear on paper?

I don't like his football and wouldn't want him as manager, it amazes me, you discredit Mourinho for all his achievements at multiple clubs...but think that a guy who inherited a winning team with loads of money and has only succeeded at one club is miles better.

Mourinho has already beaten him to the title and it's only take him 2 seasons.We'll see how Guardiola does next time round, but I suspect that other than tippy tappy football you won't see much else, that's unless he inherits another winning team.

Yet he did it hin his 1st season in Italy did he not.

Lets be honest Real desevred to win the league, they had a better squad then Barca and better players and a team that had Gheld together.

Barca's team had not Gheld they were not better then Real sqaud so of couse Jose should have won the league easy simples.

You not liking his Playing still is irrlevant to what i was saying, thats your opionion and your welcome to it.

End of the day out of me an you im not the won who wants the manger to spends mills at clubs and wins things.

My point it you all go on about Wenger out and all this crap and the 1st time somebody Mentions someone good enough to replace him, its we don't want him he plays shit football and all this crap.

Most of you just seem to want a man that will spend 20 Mill on each postion and play some good football.

[Cripps_orig]

He didn't inherit a winning team Zim, they hadn't won a trophy for two seasons. Anyway, this is stupid. Out of all the options that are likely to be available, Guardiola is the best on offer (given we know he will be without a club).Capello tbh

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He didn't inherit a winning team Zim, they hadn't won a trophy for two seasons. Anyway, this is stupid. Out of all the options that are likely to be available, Guardiola is the best on offer (given we know he will be without a club).

Stop talking Sense.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Stop talking Sense.

Both you guys should stop trying to talk logic with Tweedle Dip and Tweedle Shit.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Both you guys should stop trying to talk logic with Tweedle Dip and Tweedle Shit.

:lol:

[GP]

Both you guys should stop trying to talk logic with Tweedle Dip and Tweedle Shit.

:haha:

Which one are you?

[Özim]

Got to say think Guardiola is a coward, as soon as things appear to be coming to an end and he's not getting everything his own way he leaves...it's easy to stick around when things are going well, much harder when things need fixing though.

[Kano]

mourinho has obviously done everything the hard way in management.

started with a tiny portuguese club no one had heard of and won some things, came to england and worked on a very tight budget, them to italy to a team that hadn't won the title 3 years previously and then to the smaller of the madrid clubs that had fallen out of the spotlight and thankfully eventually wins something there when the best team in the world drop their standards a little.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Got to say think Guardiola is a coward, as soon as things appear to be coming to an end and he's not getting everything his own way he leaves...it's easy to stick around when things are going well, much harder when things need fixing though.

At least we now know you think Wenger is a fighter, then.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Got to say think Guardiola is a coward, as soon as things appear to be coming to an end and he's not getting everything his own way he leaves...it's easy to stick around when things are going well, much harder when things need fixing though.

He was leaving anyway, this was decided months ago not just now. As ususal with you its 1 rule Jose Mourinho and 1 rule for everyone else.

We all know had it been Jose who had done what pep done at Barca and decided to take a break, you be saying he deserved it etc.

[Power n Glory]

mourinho has obviously done everything the hard way in management.

started with a tiny portuguese club no one had heard of and won some things, came to england and worked on a very tight budget, them to italy to a team that hadn't won the title 3 years previously and then to the smaller of the madrid clubs that had fallen out of the spotlight and thankfully eventually wins something there when the best team in the world drop their standards a little.

I wouldn't go as far as saying Porto are a tiny club. They have won the European Cup before and are regular champions in Portugal. It's not Brian Clough territory. Porto along with Benfica and Sporting are the biggest clubs in Portugal. But Mourinho did a great job by winning the Uefa Cup and Champs League with them.

[Kano]

i think you missed my point...

[Power n Glory]

i think you missed my point...

Ahhh sarcasm. Never mind.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

i think you missed my point...

:haha:

[Özim]

He was leaving anyway, this was decided months ago not just now. As ususal with you its 1 rule Jose Mourinho and 1 rule for everyone else.

We all know had it been Jose who had done what pep done at Barca and decided to take a break, you be saying he deserved it etc.
Not really, Mourinho leaves winning teams :lol:

Still no bottle Guardiola, should have stuck it out.

[Özim]

mourinho has obviously done everything the hard way in management.

started with a tiny portuguese club no one had heard of and won some things, came to england and worked on a very tight budget, them to italy to a team that hadn't won the title 3 years previously and then to the smaller of the madrid clubs that had fallen out of the spotlight and thankfully eventually wins something there when the best team in the world drop their standards a little.
Yeah very true and winning the CL with that tiniest of club what a terrible achievement and all that following the UEFA Cup the previous season, really awful.

Yeah then came to England to win the title mutliple times for a team who hadn't won it for what 25+ years or more, then of course there was Italy where the Italian side hadn't come close to winning the CL, never mind a treble...what an awful awful manager.

[Özim]

At least we now know you think Wenger is a fighter, then.
:lol: Trouble is he's not managed to turn it around in 7 years!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Not really, Mourinho leaves winning teams :lol:

Still no bottle Guardiola, should have stuck it out.

he had planned to go before this season anyway it was knon not some bottle job.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:lol: Trouble is he's not managed to turn it around in 7 years!

You can't beat that kind of dedication though.

[Dicks and chicks]

On the one hand id say you have a point i mean look at Rikjard won loads with Barca but now he seems to be no where to be seen.

hes managing the Saudi Arabian national football team. Go to Saudi Arabia and you will see him :)

[hobson's choice]

Got to say think Guardiola is a coward, as soon as things appear to be coming to an end and he's not getting everything his own way he leaves...it's easy to stick around when things are going well, much harder when things need fixing though.

I don't think you can call him coward, being the manager at Barca, Madrid, Bayern is got to be fucking stressful as hell. those aren't places where people stick around for too long, it's either know when to leave, or at some point you get told to leave. They turn on people quick at those clubs, look at Rijkaard, didn't even give him the chance the to rebuild.

[cricketsi]

Not really, Mourinho leaves winning teams :lol:

Still no bottle Guardiola, should have stuck it out.

Arguably leaving a team after a winning season, like he did at Porto and Inter shows less bottle because he knew he could never reproduce that success again and didn't have the balls to try.

[GP]

Arguably leaving a team after a winning season, like he did at Porto and Inter shows less bottle because he knew he could never reproduce that success again and didn't have the balls to try.

:gp:

Mourinho is gutless.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Guardiola has been at his own insistence, on a year to year contract. It was pretty widely anticipated that he'd be calling it a day at Barcelona soon, regardless.

[Özim]

Arguably leaving a team after a winning season, like he did at Porto and Inter shows less bottle because he knew he could never reproduce that success again and didn't have the balls to try.
Totally disagree, leaving a losing team is easy as you have rebuild and there's a lot of pressure to do so...Guardiola has had nothing but success, it's how you deal with adversity that shows what you're made of, he's had it easy!

[cricketsi]

Totally disagree, leaving a losing team is easy as you have rebuild and there's a lot of pressure to do so...Guardiola has had nothing but success, it's how you deal with adversity that shows what you're made of, he's had it easy!

I was mainly playing devil's advocate, couldn't really give a shit about either of them to be honest, but Mourinho left Inter when the only way was down, that's a pretty easy time to jump ship without risking your reputation.

[GP]

I was mainly playing devil's advocate

This should be in the Gaming thread, tbh...

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