Group G - England, Swiss, Bulgaria, Wales...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry is awful.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 half time at Wembley. Tyldesley are making it out like England became world-beaters during that half.

[Marc Overmars]

Fucking awful match. Don't know why I bother watching England.

Young looks decent, seems to be going from strength to strength.

[Niall_Quinn]

Barry is awful.

We should sign him in a few years.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Is it just me or does Smalling run as if he has splints?

He's so immobile with the ball. His touch is worse than Dirk's.

[Coney]

Barry is awful.


We should sign him in a few years.

Needs to pick up a couple of recurring injuries first. :good:

[Niall_Quinn]

Is it just me or does Smalling run as if he has splints?

He's so immobile with the ball. His touch is worse than Dirk's.

Smalling is a superstar now regardless of how he plays. Signed for the right club to ensure his future.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We should sign him in a few years.

Kill me now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Has Chiles been taking tips from O(r)tis? That plug for the CL/Rugby WC and the score reports was horrible.

[Niall_Quinn]

Is it my imagination or are Wales shit?

[Niall_Quinn]

England's had to buy the ref and linesman to beat Wales???

[Cripps_orig]

England's had to buy the ref and linesman to beat Wales???

I thought you'd be watching the match on ESPN tbh

Anyway yes Wales are shit

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought you'd be watching the match on ESPN tbh

Anyway yes Wales are shit

Norway isn't it?

[Cripps_orig]

Norway isn't it?

Denmark v Norway.

Big match in that group

Our very own beloved Bendtner has scored twice

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry with a great tackle to deny Ramsey.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hart. :lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Shaqiri scores again

2-1 Swiss

[Master Splinter]

Flap from Hart.

If England are the fourth best team in the world, then Wales must be about ninth.

And yeah, Bale was onside and would have likely scored. Corruption :bow:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bale. :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Barry with a great tackle to deny Ramsey.

How much did that hurt to say?

[Master Splinter]

Bale :haha:.

More importantly, England are woeful.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Lampard with his trademark show-up-when-all-the-work-is-done run... and blazes it over.

[Niall_Quinn]

Denmark v Norway.

Big match in that group

Our very own beloved Bendtner has scored twice

He'll be unbearable for weeks. Expect a book about how we screwed him over and missed out on the greatest striker in history as a result.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How much did that hurt to say?

A fair bit. However I can be safe in the knowledge he'll show his true worth again soon. :good:

[Marc Overmars]

I believe England play Spain in November.

lol @ at the thought of Lamps and Barry trying to keep up with tiki taka.

[Niall_Quinn]

Blimey, Wales getting on top.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rooney. :haha:

WTF?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lampard hauled off, Parker on.

[Cripps_orig]

Would be funny if Parker got booked

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Freekick to Wales, dangerous area.

[Master Splinter]

Is the England never lose with Theo in the team record still going?

Come on Wales :pray:.

England are truly shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bale puts it over.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a chance for Earnshaw. :doh:

Ramsey's ball. :bow:

Actually it was even more of a sitter than I thought it was.

Earnshaw. :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Earnshaw misses a sitter

[Master Splinter]

Earnshaw you retard :doh:.

Time for him to be put down tbh.

Wales :bow:.

Rambo :bow:.

[Coney]

How did Earnshaw miss that?

[Niall_Quinn]

OMFG What a miss! Some Welsh bloke blazes it over when it was close on impossible to miss.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Downing off, Johnson on.

[Niall_Quinn]

What a miss, by the way. Should be 1-1 (2-1 actually because Bale was clean through and the linesman tackled him).

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Pathetic dive by Cole who was beaten like an uppity slave. Offside anyway.

[Master Splinter]

England need scumbag refs to win them a game against Wales.

Oh dear.

Corruption :bow:.

[Maestro]

Rambo has made about 5 key passes tonight.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Earnshaw. :haha:

Ramsey with good play to find Bale.

[Niall_Quinn]

Breaking news, Earnshaw is shit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Earnshaw > Chamakh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Collison off, King on.

[Master Splinter]

I'd love to see an Iwelumo - Earnshaw strike partnership.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-1 Switzerland, Shaqiri hat-trick. :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Wales passing and movement. :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Shaqiri hat-trick. :bow:

Sign him up, Coyle.

[Marc Overmars]

Tickets were £45 to this on the door because they couldn't sell it out.

Is it any wonder no one gives a shite about the national team anymore?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rooney off, Carroll on.

[Cripps_orig]

Rooney hauled off

Carroll on

[Cripps_orig]

Tickets were £45 to this on the door because they couldn't sell it out.

Is it any wonder no one gives a shite about the national team anymore?

I was tempted to go but realised it was England playing so thought fuck it

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Earnshaw. :haha:

I mean, how the hell?

[Niall_Quinn]

England favourites to win Euro 2012.

[Master Splinter]

They just showed it again.

Earnshaw :haha:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey gets MotM.

ITV. :bow:

Always rated them tbf.

[Master Splinter]

First time they've ever got the MOTM right on TV.

[Niall_Quinn]

Stupid crowd singing songs about how they want to be reigned over.

[Cripps_orig]

Ramsey MOTM :bow:

Why is he so shit for us?

[Maestro]

Rambo sponsor's MOTM

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 full time.

[Cripps_orig]

2131: Oh dear. I've just watched that Robert Earnshaw miss again. Oof.

2119: Oh dear - I've just watched it for a fourth time. It really was a terrible miss.

2118: What. A. Miss. Oh it gets worse every time you watch it. Darcy Blake's nod back from a cross falls to Robert Earnshaw at the back post, the keeper nowhere and the goal gaping, but the Cardiff striker manages to spoon over when it looked easier to score. What a wasted chance for Wales.

:lol:

1-0 FT

[Niall_Quinn]

England shit. Wales better team. Wales pretty shit too but not as shit as England. Ramsey awesome (so was Bale to be fair). Wales very unlucky to go down 1-0. FT.

[Marc Overmars]

Ramsey MOTM :bow:

Why is he so shit for us?

We don't face opposition as shite as England.

[Niall_Quinn]

We don't face opposition as shite as England.

Or teams managed by stupid Italians that get bitch slapped by kids called Theo.

[Maestro]

Ramsey MOTM :bow:

Why is he so shit for us?

well he's only playing against the likes of England, Swiss, Bulgaria etc ...we have to deal with the Stokes and Newcastles of this world

[Dog Toffee]

Ramsey MOTM :bow:

Why is he so shit for us?

Because you're only thinking of the last game, when he was surrounded by dross. Either that or your blind, he's great for us.

As for England, they're shit.

[Cripps_orig]

Because you're only thinking of the last game, when he was surrounded by dross. Either that or your blind, he's great for us.

As for England, they're shit.

And you call me blind :lol:

[Maestro]

We don't face opposition as shite as England.


:good:

[Niall_Quinn]

Because you're only thinking of the last game, when he was surrounded by dross. Either that or your blind, he's great for us.

As for England, they're shit.

Nah, Ramsey has been off form since he came back from the injury. Tonight's the best I've seen him play in a long time. Either he doesn't feel as much pressure playing for Wales or England don't present much of a challenge.

[Dog Toffee]

And you call me blind :lol:

Yes, yes I do Denilson lover.

[Master Splinter]

Yes, yes I do Denilson lover.

:lol:

:popcorn:.

[Cripps_orig]

Yes, yes I do Denilson lover.

Wenger lover

:pal:

Beat that, bitch

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger lover

:pal:

Beat that, bitch

Chamakh lover :pal:

[Cripps_orig]

Chamakh lover :pal:

:p

[Cripps_orig]

England squad

Goalkeepers
Scott Carson, Joe Hart, David Stockdale

Defenders
Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Phil Jones, Micah Richards, John Terry, Kyle Walker

Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Stewart Downing, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Ashley Young

Forwards
Darren Bent, Andy Carroll, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck, Bobby Zamora.


Rio :pal:

[Cripps_orig]

7/10/11 Montenegro v England

7/10/11 Wales v Switzerland

11/10/11 Switzerland v Montenegro

11/10/11 Bulgaria v Wales

England need a point

Swiss v Montenegro could decide 2nd.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England: Hart; Cole, Terry, Cahill, Jones; Walcott, Parker, Barry, Young; Bent, Rooney.

Barry. :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Hart; Jones, Terry, Cahill, Cole; Walcott, Parker, Barry, Young; Bent, Rooney.

FFS. Posting at the same time again.

Also, come on Bulgaria.

[Rors]

henrywinter Henry Winter
Just been thrown out of City Stadium press room. 'This is for VIPs and you are ONLY a journalist' said official. Charming

:pal:

[Rors]

Bent-y :bow: Cue the usual claptrap about him being out of his depth...

[Master Splinter]

I think Welbeck should have played.

Bent might be out of his depth.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

henrywinter Henry Winter
Just been thrown out of City Stadium press room. 'This is for VIPs and you are ONLY a journalist' said official. Charming

:pal:

:haha:

Hopefully a sign of things to come.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Hart; Jones, Terry, Cahill, Cole; Walcott, Parker, Barry, Young; Bent, Rooney.

FFS. Posting at the same time again.

Also, come on Bulgaria.

You mean Montinegro

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Montenegro: Mladen Bozovic, Zverotic, Djudovic, Savic, Kascelan, Vukcevic, Pekovic, Vladimir Bozovic, Beciraj, Jovetic, Vucinic.
Subs: Blazic, Jovanovic, Batak, Djalovic, Damjanovic, Cetkovic, Delibasic.

England: Hart, Jones, Terry, Cahill, Cole, Walcott, Barry, Parker, Young, Bent, Rooney.
Subs: Carson, Jagielka, Baines, Lampard, Downing, Welbeck, Zamora.

Referee: Wolfgang Stark (Germany)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wales: Hennessey, Gunter, Blake, Ashley Williams, Taylor, Bale, Crofts, Ramsey, Allen, Bellamy, Morison.
Subs: Myhill, Matthews, Nyatanga, Vaughan, Edwards, Robson-Kanu, Church.

Switzerland: Benaglio, Lichtsteiner, Von Bergen, Klose, Ziegler, Frei, Inler, Shaqiri, Xhaka, Behrami, Derdiyok.
Subs: Wolfli, Von Bergen, Degen, Rodriguez, Emeghara, Fernandes, Mehmedi.

Referee: Bjorn Kuipers (Holland)

Will watch this until the England game starts.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FIFA 12's commentary team are doing the England game.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo with some good work, beat a player. :o

[Syn]

Come on Theo, you poncy, ball-less, pathetic excuse of a man.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Huge deflection on Ashley Young's shot, puts it safely behind for a corner. Bozovic was stranded though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Walcott shot, just about saved by Bozovic. Decent strike on the volley, right at him though really.

[Syn]

Theo misses a great chance.

[Cripps_orig]

Theo :bow:

Fucking love this guy.

Brilliant player

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Parker was made to look an idiot by Vucinic there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Ashley Young.

Theo assist! :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

0-1

Theo assist

[Syn]

Theo's shit was way off there...thankfully young reacted quickly.

[Master Splinter]

Theo :bow:.

England's saviour.

What's that record Theo has? Is it that England have never lost when he has played or is it when he has started?

Anyway, Theo :bow:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry. :haha:

Fucking awful.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 Bent.

[Cripps_orig]

0-2 Bent

Would have loved him here

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo dumped on his arse.

[Cripps_orig]

Blatant penalty that was

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Starfish from Jones.

Stevie Me teaching the young ones well.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo. :doh:

WTF was that?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-2 Montengro!

Hart. :lol: How the hell did that go in?

[Cripps_orig]

1-2

Someone scores

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ah Big Man deflected it in, that's why. :haha:

1-2 half time.

[Cripps_orig]

Thought it was a Hart blunder at first but it was deflected

1-2 HT

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The SSN Drone could not be any more patronising to Montenegro if he tried.

[Cripps_orig]

Half time in all the other matches on Sky as well bar Irelands so might as well watch that although id rather watch Wales v Swiss

Shaqiri :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey played a suicidal ball again. Shaqiri is awesome.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Disallowed goal for Derdiyok. What a ball from Shaqiri though.

[Cripps_orig]

Goal disallowed for Swiss

Right decision

Would have been a Shaqiri assist though

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a chance for Morison.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nice dive by Bale.

[Cripps_orig]

That should have been a Welsh penalty

More importantly

Bale :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ziegler sent off. :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ah fair enough it was a high-footer. Good lad, kick the shits out of them when it isn't going on your way.

[Cripps_orig]

Former Spud isnt he?

Just seen the replay. A bit harsh

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RAMSEY!!!

Granted it was a pelnaty.

[Cripps_orig]

1-0 Wales

Ramsey pen

[Cripps_orig]

Hart saves from Bet your ass

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hart thought about messing up then. It'd good that it is unusual for him though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England's midfield. :lol:

So weak.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Parker has had a shocker.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How is that not a pelnaty for Montenegro?

[Cripps_orig]

Montenegro should have a penalty

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ashley Cole. :lol:

Terrible defending.

[Cripps_orig]

All Montenegro

[Cripps_orig]

2-0 Wales

Bale

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wales 2-0 Switzerland, Bale.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ashley Young off, Downing on.

[Cripps_orig]

Young hauled off

Downing on

Young fans on here :lol:

Hes a bit shit tbh

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Why can't we get this Ramsey for Arsenal?

[Cripps_orig]

Wenger

[Cripps_orig]

Bent off for Lampard

[Master Splinter]

Parker is shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenger

Hmmm, let's send Wenger out on loan and bring Michael Laudrup in.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Parker is shit.

Pretty much. Plays with passion though, apparently.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Barry. :doh:

How is he still on? Or alive for that matter.

[Master Splinter]

Parker and Barry giving the ball away is all that's happened while I've been watching this.

[Master Splinter]

Rooney :haha:.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rooney sent off. :haha:

He'd miss the first game of Euro 2012 if England make it so says Tyler.

[Cripps_orig]

Wazza sent off :lol:

And he misses the first game of Euro 2012

[Master Splinter]

Time to pump the ball up to Theo tbh.

[Cripps_orig]

Wellbeck on for Theo

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How the hell did I hear first two games and of the World Cup?

I've had a Barry.

Anyway, Theo hauled off.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

If this is the midfield England end up playing in the summer, they will get annihilated. Again.

[Master Splinter]

If this is the midfield England end up playing in the summer, they will get annihilated. Again.

Cahill and Terry is not so good either.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cahill and Terry is not so good either.

This is true.

[Master Splinter]

Downing :lol:.

[Rors]

henrywinter Henry Winter
Rooney off. Crazy kick on Dzudovic. Echoes of Beckham at France 98? Distracted by off-field?

:doh:

[Cripps_orig]

I was waiting for the distracted by the off field shite to come up

Didnt take long

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wales win!

Ramsey. :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Montenegro should just shoot at Hart.

He's a prolific spiller.

Apart from that he's faultless though.

[Cripps_orig]

henrywinter Henry Winter
Rooney off. Crazy kick on Dzudovic. Echoes of Beckham at France 98? Distracted by off-field?

:doh:So good they named him twice? :unsure:

[Rors]

Montenegro should just shoot at Hart.

He's a prolific spiller.

Apart from that he's faultless though.

"You just feel so much safer with him between the sticks"... :unsure:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Montengro. :bow: Only been a nation in its own right for five years and are already better technically than England.

Pretty streaky save from Hart.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England shouting at Jovetic for diving.

[Rors]

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-2!!!

[Master Splinter]

England :haha:.

[Cripps_orig]

FFS

Wanted to see Shaqiri in the summer

[Rors]

Hart wasn't even in the same postcode as the flight there..

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hart wasn't even in the same postcode as the flight there..

He usually gets those though so we can let him off.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-2 full time. England. :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

2-2 FT

England qualify

yay

Montenegro are in the play offs

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Montenegro.

:bow:

[Rors]

606 tonight after all then

[GP]

England :haha:

Hart is shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Rooney. :haha:

Surely that will be considered violent conduct?

[GP]

3 game ban then?

:haha:

[Cripps_orig]

The ban could be extended :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'd have thought so. SSN Drone saying it is a minimum one match ban is hardly news as any sending off would be at least a one match ban.

Friendly vs Spain in November. :rose:

[Rors]

Here we go then... Let's listen out for the keywords..

[Rors]

"Frustration". Good work Sav...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Robbie Savage is calling it as frustration. :rolleyes:

[GP]

Full house!

[Rors]

Someone from Nor'oftheborder putting Crouchy over.. :wacko:

[Master Splinter]

Robbie Savage being some sort of sage across every media outlet in this country is not just confirmation that the world is absolutely beyond help, it's evidence that we're in a hell more hellish than anyone could ever have imagined.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bring in 'Arry and Pearce?

:haha:

[Rors]

"Redknapp" "Pearce" We're rattling through the bit of paper here.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Robbie Savage being some sort of sage across every media outlet in this country is not just confirmation that the world is absolutely beyond help, it's evidence that we're in a hell more hellish than anyone could ever have imagined.

BBC. :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Beckham for England

[McNamara That Ghost...]

All Savage can say is "Rooney is world class and he should play". Er, he'll be suspended numbnuts.

[Rors]

Robbie Savage being some sort of sage across every media outlet in this country is not just confirmation that the world is absolutely beyond help, it's evidence that we're in a hell more hellish than anyone could ever have imagined.

"What do you know about Squillaci Robbie?"
"That he's got a funny name!"

"The ground here looks just like a spaceship, although I have no idea what a spaceship looks like"

"It's a load of rubbish all this talk about altitude being a problem - I went for a run along the beach earlier and felt fine"

Good god...

[Rors]

"Passion" "desire".. I'm losing it here.

[Cripps_orig]

Hart had no chance for that cross

[Rors]

So Rooney must play (if he can) as he "is world-class", but at the same time "England will fluff it". And this man won a 'Rising Star' punditry award?

[Rors]

Don't try and play semantics Robbie son...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ah Agent Capello interview on Sky. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England the biggest football nation in the world? :lol:

WTF?

[Rors]

Hypocrisy from Robbie here.

Virtually every week - mainly when it involves "his mate" Roberto - he insists that money is not an issue as "anybody would take the money!". Now it's "an absolute disgrace" that Capello earns 6million a year....

[Rors]

Of course, we're losing sight of the real issue here. Thursday June 7th 2012, 11:35, BBC One. The 'This Week' Euro2012 preview. Yes that will likely mean Calum bleedin' best again, but with any luck we will get to hear the now Shadow Energy and Climate Change Secretary once again say "I hope they have been practicing those penalties".

Flint-y :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Callum Best. :doh:

It must be tough to find anyone that wants to do a preview job at 11:35 pm.

[Master Splinter]

It must be tough to find anyone that wants to do a preview job at 11:35 pm.

Savage not available?

Stephen Fry probably will be though. We don't see him enough on TV.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stephen Fry. :bow:

Not sure what his football knowledge is like, never really heard him speak about it. Not that the BBC really care for that anymore.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Savage's views on how Germany have rebuilt their team...

"I don't care about Germany".

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Savage thinks Beckham was 27/28 in 1998. :wacko:

[Rors]

"How old was Beckham when he got sent off, 27 or 28 wasn't he?"

No, Robbie, he wasn't...

[Cripps_orig]

:haha:

That would put Becks in his 40s now

What a player :bow:

[Rors]

Always worth looking at this stat at times like this. Since 1966, England have only 'won' 6 games in the knockout stages of major tournaments:

1968 - 0
1970 - 0
1972 - DNQ
1974 - DNQ
1976 - DNQ
1978 - DNQ
1980 - Out in Group Stage
1982 - Out in Second Group Stage, drew both games there ( Keegan :pal: )
1984 - DNQ
1986 - Paraguay in R2
1988 - Out in Group Stage, losing all three games
1990 - Belgium in last minute, Cameroon in ET following a Lineker dive.
1992 - Out in Group Stage
1994 - DNQ
1996 - Spain on penalties having been mullered all game
1998 - 0
2000 - Out in Group Stage
2002 - Denmark
2004 - 0
2006 - Ecuador 1-0, being a lucky deflection away from going one down after nine minutes.
2008 - DNQ
2010 - 0

QED. How do you like that Custis?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That's a pretty dreadful record.

[Master Splinter]

England :haha:.

Awful team.

[Cripps_orig]

England were a bit shit in the 70s then?I blame the foreigners tbh

[McNamara That Ghost...]

England were a bit shit in the 70s then?I blame the foreigners tbh

True. Liverpool's side were full of them.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Savage not available?

Stephen Fry probably will be though. We don't see him enough on TV.


Robbie savage is the biggest cunt going tbh, all he is doing is trying to disract people from talking about his precious wales not qulaifying. should worry about them more then england.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Huh?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Huh?

what i was saying was Robbie did not want to stress about wales shortcomings from the england fans. so he tries to lick their arses byt chatting shite.

so all in all what i meant was Savage is a cunt thats all

[Rors]

"Rugby League is now the embodiment of working class sport" - Joey bleedin' Barton

Would that be the sport "turned around" by the x-million Sky deal? :rolleyes:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

England goalkeeper Joe Hart has blasted the decision to send off Wayne Rooney during Friday night's final Euro 2012 qualifier in Montenegro.

Hart described referee Wolfgang Stark's decision to dismiss Rooney as "the most pathetic sending-off I've seen in my life."

The Manchester United star will miss the start of next summer's finals through suspension after his challenge on Miodrag Dzudovoic.

Pathetic
Hart said: "I saw it all. It was pretty pathetic. It was supposedly a kick but it was pathetic.

"It was the most pathetic sending-off I've seen in my life.

"I feel for Wayne, who is disappointed, because 10 minutes later I saw Danny Welbeck take it on the jaw and nearly have his head knocked off.

"I was thinking 'what's happened there?' and 'why is that not a red card?'

"That's football and that's what we have to deal with these days. There was nothing we could have done at the time.

"We moved on as a team, Welbeck did really well upfront after he came on and did a great job."

Hart is full of pride after helping England book their place in Poland and Ukraine next summer.

He said: "We are over the moon. It was a case of 'job done.' We have got England as a nation to a major tournament next summer.

"We are a good bunch of players, a proud bunch of players. We played for our country, knowing we had to get to get to a tournament and we've done that.

True grit
"It was a difficult atmosphere and they are a good side but we are there although we wanted the win and the manager said we got sloppy in the last five minutes.

"We showed true grit and true determination and I am so proud to be part of this England team."

England led 2-0 through goals from Ashley Young and Darren Bent's fourth in his last five internationals.

But Elsad Zverotic reduced the arrears on the strike of half-time and Andrija Delibasic's late header rescued a point for the home side who have qualified for the play-offs.



http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12016_7230527,00.html

Ok Joe if you say so

[Cripps_orig]

Wtf?

Hart :doh:

[Master Splinter]

Gary Neville believes England are not good enough to win Euro 2012, saying they lack mobility and invention.

After Friday's 2-2 draw in Montenegro, media coverage focused on Wayne Rooney's red card but Neville argued that England had more pressing worries.

"What we should be talking about is the spine of a team that has no mobility and can't keep the ball," he wrote in the Mail on Sunday.

"The real issue is that the spine of the team is not good enough."

The defender, who won 85 England caps, pulled no punches in his assessment of Fabio Capello's side.

"When I look at it coldly, a team that has John Terry, Gary Cahill, Scott Parker, Gareth Barry, Darren Bent and Rooney in its central positions is nowhere near good enough to take on the major nations such as Spain.

"I'm not having a go at individuals; there are some very good players among those names.

"[But] Rooney aside, there is hardly any pace, very little invention and hardly any rotation of positions. Compare that with the spine of Spain: Carles Puyol, Gerard Pique, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, David Villa and Fernando Llorente."

England take on Spain in a friendly at Wembley next month with Neville keen to see a number of younger players given a chance.

"Let's be clear, England are not as good as Spain but you can't just accept they're better," said Neville.

"You have to find a way to stop them, to disrupt the rhythm and to hurt them going forward - because England need to believe that, in a one-off, they can beat Spain.

"The rest of Europe is watching and if Spain do what most people think they will do and destroy us, just like France did in February 1999 at Wembley when they were world champions, then England will go into Euro 2012 thinking they have no chance.

"There are younger players - Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Tom Cleverley, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Danny Welbeck - who are mobile, talented and not tainted by previous failures.

"Somehow, Capello has to mould those with the more experienced players into a team to compete with Spain because the team that played on Friday would be well beaten. It's now time for Capello to be brave."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15232130.stm

Big Man :haha:

Cahill :haha:

Barry :haha:

Parker :haha:

Ratface is spot-on tbf.

But he also has to get in the free promotion for Fergie, of course.

[Marc Overmars]

Arguably the best pundit in the business tbh.

[Master Splinter]

Arguably the best pundit in the business tbh.

Not a compliment tbf.

It's like being the best speaker in the Agbonlahor household.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Behind Souness. And most of the ones for the La Liga programmes. Although I suppose I am really damning him with faint praise.

FFS MS, why do we keep doing this?

[Master Splinter]

It's fucking creepy.

vpgreg did say you were secretly me once.

Maybe he was right? :unsure:

[Cripps_orig]

Has anyone checked if Rooney senior had a bet on what minute Wazza would be sent off v Montenegro?...

Those are the rumours going around atm

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's fucking creepy.

vpgreg did say you were secretly me once.

Maybe he was right? :unsure:

Did he? Well I can understand it but I think our different attitudes to F1 probably confund that. I think.

[Master Splinter]

Did he? Well I can understand it but I think our different attitudes to F1 probably confund that. I think.

It was when I first joined and he said I might be one of your aliases. Probably jokingly, but he does seem to enjoy outing duplicate accounts. Even though he's - apart from Joker - always wrong.

I also don't have as much disdain for Garry Barry tbf.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't know why I do really, I should be happy he is regularly in Citeh's team. Guess it's bewilderment when it comes to England that does it.

One of my aliases? :lol: Vpig. :doh: I don't think I really give myself time to post as somebody else.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey starts for Wales.

[Cripps_orig]

BULGARIA v WALES (GROUP G, 1905 BST)
Dewi Hughes reports: "A surreal atmosphere awaits Wales in Sofia, with fewer than 600 spectators expected at the Vasil Levski Stadium because of a boycott by Bulgaria fans. Victory and a possible third-place finish is the carrot for Wales at the end of another fruitless campaign, but defeat to managerless Bulgaria would see Gary Speed's improving side finishing bottom of Group G."


I guess any racism will be easy to spot

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bulgaria: Mihailov, Manolev, Zanev, Miliev, Terziev, Gadzhev, Tonev, Petrov, Popov, Domovchiyski, Ivanov.
Subs: Vladislav Stoyanov, Minev, Genchev, Bojinov, Delev, Rangelov, Aleksandrov.

Wales: Hennessey, Gunter, Ashley Williams, Blake, Taylor, Allen, Ramsey, Crofts, Bale, Bellamy, Morison.
Subs: Myhill, Matthews, Nyatanga, Vaughan, Edwards, Robson-Kanu, Church.

Referee: Pawel Gil (Poland)

[Cripps_orig]

Djourou starts

[Cripps_orig]

0-1 Wales

Bale

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Huge deflection apparently.

WPOTY.

[Cripps_orig]

1-0 Swiss

Derdiyok

[Cripps_orig]

2-0 Swiss

Lichsteiner

[Cripps_orig]

0-1 FT

Wales win

Ramsey :bow:

Arsenal captain when RVP leaves in 2012?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bulgaria 0-1 Wales, full time.

Gary Speed. :bow:

Captain Ramsey. :bow:

Bale. :good:

[Master Splinter]

Arsenal captain when RVP leaves in 2012?

Is he going to Barcelona?

[Cripps_orig]

Is he going to Barcelona?

Soon

[Cripps_orig]

Swiss won 2-0

[Cripps_orig]

SSN breaking news

Rooney banned for 3 games

Hes out of the group games

Surely he cant go now?

[Marc Overmars]

Wazza you fucking cock.

[Ollie the Optimist]

think it would be best to leave him behind. anyway if he does go, he will only play one game before we get knocked out

[Marc Overmars]

think it would be best to leave him behind. anyway if he does go, he will only play one game before we get knocked out

I can see it now.

England get out of the group without Rooney.

Rooney comes in for the knockouts.

We lose.

Cappello is destroyed.

No mention of the fact the team is shite.

Perfect excuse.

[Cripps_orig]

Its likely FA will appeal.

However if UEFA find the appeal frivolous, they can extend the ban to 4.

[Syn]

Great news.

Now Oxoface has a great chance of making the England squad.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Its likely FA will appeal.

However if UEFA find the appeal frivolous, they can extend the ban to 4.

how can they appeal? its not like he hasnt done it before. stupid twats will get it upped to four cos of a stupid appeal

[Olivier's xmas twist]

SSN breaking news

Rooney banned for 3 games

Hes out of the group games

Surely he cant go now?

Why he will only miss the group games anyway. he be well rested so who knows if we get out the group he could perform well

[Master Splinter]

Shrek :haha:.

[Cripps_orig]

A host of leading names from the world of football took to Twitter to blast UEFA's decision.

Everton captain and former England defender Phil Neville said: "Rooney banned for 3 games what a joke - if it was a Dutch, Spanish, Italian or German player they wouldn't even get 1 game. #fact"

Manchester United striker Michael Owen added: "Disappointing news regarding Wayne Rooney. Missing 3 games on such a big stage seems a bit harsh."

And former Wales international Robbie Savage blasted: "Rooney 3 game ban "joke" !! Doesn't deserve it!"


:doh:

Also leading names? :lol:

[Maestro]

England will not win the damn thing, so might as well blood a team that might be alive for the 2014 World Cup. Nothing to lose whatsoever, may the GHEL be with you.

Hart

Richards/Walker Jones/Terry Smalling/Ferdinand Cole/Baines

Rodwell/Milner
Cleverly/Lansbury Jack/Gerrard

Oxo Cube/Theo Johnson/Young
Welbeck/Caroll/Sturridge

[Cripps_orig]

Bent will definitely go this time

Best English striker around