What is stalling Theo??

[-Xs-]

Hmm, what is stalling Theo...I think a more accurate question would be what can encourage him to stay? Money? Ambition? Role? A cheese and ham sandwhich?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wenget on Theo:

John Cross ‏@johncrossmirror (http://twitter.com/johncrossmirror)


On Theo: 'I'm not directly involved, no progress. Yes I am (frustrated). He has to make up mind'

What? So who is involved, who deal with contracts then?

[Ollie the Optimist]

last year theo wanted guarentee of CL football, this year it started off being played up front then to guanreteed starter.
it surely only about the money though. as no contract will have those demands in it.


and we can do contracts easily when the player wants to stay, ie kos, vermaelen, rosicky they were all done easily. not saying arsenal arent blameless but theo keeps saying he loves us at the same time as looking for someone else to shag.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The whole thing is boring now, stay/go could not give a feck anymore just sort it quick and let us move on tbh.

[PGFC]

His agents greed.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

The whole thing is boring now, stay/go could not give a feck anymore just sort it quick and let us move on tbh.

This^^^

Even more so when you consider that he's not that good anyway.

Average at best players like Theo, being such a pain in the arse on contract negotiations, just go to show the dire state of the footie side of the club.

Fucking shambles.

[Grebbo]

We will lose our best player every season now, it's inevitable.

Cesc, RVP, Walcott, next year probably Cazorla.

I don't know what is more depressing - losing your best player every season or Walcott being our best player.

[Cripps_orig]

An excellent player no doubt and would love him to stay but he'd be a fool to. Don't blame him for going if he does. Will be an automatic Arsenal legend should he stay as it will have shown he doesn't desert a sinking ship like all the other rats.

[Ollie the Optimist]

An excellent player no doubt and would love him to stay but he'd be a fool to. Don't blame him for going if he does. Will be an automatic Arsenal legend should he stay as it will have shown he doesn't desert a sinking ship like all the other rats.


i know you love theo, but saying he will be an automatic legend if he stays is just fucking stupid. he has done nothing to come even close to being considered a legend

[Özil's Panoramic View]

An excellent player no doubt and would love him to stay but he'd be a fool to. Don't blame him for going if he does. Will be an automatic Arsenal legend should he stay as it will have shown he doesn't desert a sinking ship like all the other rats.

Are you serious? Not very often I disagree with you but to call Theo an "excellent player" is bloody mental, for lack of a better word.

[Grebbo]

Theo has been our best player this season by far, that's not even debatable. Whether that makes him excellent or the rest of our players fucking dog shit is debatable.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Theo has been our best player this season by far, that's not even debatable. Whether that makes him excellent or the rest of our players fucking dog shit is debatable.


pretty sure mertasacker says it is debateable.

[Grebbo]

pretty sure mertasacker says it is debateable.

Nope, he agrees with me.

[Cripps_orig]

Scores and assists regularly. Would be a world beater with the right manager something he doesn't have here or at international level. Considering he's a far better option upfront than Forehead and Giroud and still not played there is a criminal offence. If he goes, he goes with all true gooners well wishes unless he joins Barca/Man utd then I hope he dies

[Ollie the Optimist]

Nope, he agrees with me.

really? because imo he has been our best player this year. it helps i guess that he has started more games but he has been solid every time he has played. theo has gone missing in games, ie last week and everton away

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Theo has been our best player this season by far, that's not even debatable. Whether that makes him excellent or the rest of our players fucking dog shit is debatable.

Which explains our stellar form this season.

Theo :bow:

[Grebbo]

really? because imo he has been our best player this year. it helps i guess that he has started more games but he has been solid every time he has played. theo has gone missing in games, ie last week and everton away

Look at Feo's stats.

If he'd of played every game for us this season he'd be one of the star performers in the league.

[Syn]

If he'd of played every game for us this season he'd be one of the star performers in the league.

Or, more likely, injured.

[LDG]

Who's to say though.

The was great in patches last year, but not consistent.

This is the first time he's actually shown bollocks, but I reckon that says more about shop windows than it does about his attitude.

We've seen it all before.

[Dennis Bendtner]

It sounds like Wenger is trying to mould little bit fan backlash against Walcott. Quite cutting quotes. I mean we all know he's off but Wenger is playing the game.

[Fist of Lehmann]

What? So who is involved, who deal with contracts then?

Dick Law according to the Guardian.

Wenger controls him with levers and a vocoder.

[LDG]

It sounds like Wenger is trying to mould little bit fan backlash against Walcott. Quite cutting quotes. I mean we all know he's off but Wenger is playing the game.

Of course he is.

It's all bollocks. From both sides.

I just despise the fact that Theo only ups his game and workrate when he's looking for the exit. ****.

[Fist of Lehmann]

I just despise the fact that Theo only ups his game and workrate when he's looking for the exit. ****.

Must have found the exit before the Swans game.

[Ollie the Optimist]

wenger has said that we tried to start talks last summer, and it came out htat theo wanted to wait until we had confirmed champions league football, then it was play me up front, now its start me every game. why is he delaying? he said wait for cl football, we got it, then his next demand came out.

[Xhaka Can’t]

If he stays, meh. If he goes, meh.

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[LDG]

Must have found the exit before the Swans game.

True.

It looked like he thought he'd already done enough.

Hence the "injury".

[LDG]

wenger has said that we tried to start talks last summer, and it came out htat theo wanted to wait until we had confirmed champions league football, then it was play me up front, now its start me every game. why is he delaying? he said wait for cl football, we got it, then his next demand came out.

For the love of....

[Xhaka Can’t]

He needs to mehk his mind up.

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

[Joker]

wenger has said that we tried to start talks last summer, and it came out htat theo wanted to wait until we had confirmed champions league football, then it was play me up front, now its start me every game. why is he delaying? he said wait for cl football, we got it, then his next demand came out.

Where are you getting this information from?

[Fist of Lehmann]

True.

It looked like he thought he'd already done enough.

Hence the "injury".

It's Nasri's half season all over again.

[Power n Glory]

He's not signing shit. Hasn't played up front, no chance of silverware and probably no Champs League football next season.

[Cripps_orig]

Where are you getting this information from?Twitter

[IBK]

Seriously. Walcott is one of our best players. The fact we have to obsess about him sucks.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

This^^^

Even more so when you consider that he's not that good anyway.

Average at best players like Theo, being such a pain in the arse on contract negotiations, just go to show the dire state of the footie side of the club.

Fucking shambles.

Spot on, I like Theo and would be happy for him to stay. But When he has woeful games like he did vs Swansea he needs to shut his mouth and worry about improving rather then making silly demands.


Arsenal legend should he stay

No he won't be a Arsenal Legend just because he stays, not even Cesc was Arsenal legend.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Seriously. Walcott is one of our best players. The fact we have to obsess about him sucks.

Been one of our best players these days mean not much, if he wants to go to a better club then he needs to improve alot.

Im not obssessing about him, i just don't care if he goes or stays anymore, the whole thing is boring and we have been here so many times.

Both Theo and the Club are getting excuses in so if he does leave, it will be same old same old.

[Cripps_orig]

No he won't be a Arsenal Legend just because he stays, not even Cesc was Arsenal legend.cos he didn't stay :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

cos he didn't stay :coffee:

No, not really imo he'd just was never an arsenal legend, and he was never going to stay. It jsut seems so easy to dish out this legend stuff here, there and everywhere.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

What's going to be so legendary about Theo should he sign a new contract? Apart from going against the grain by not fucking off with us ie.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It's Nasri's half season all over again.

Seems that way. He too clamied to love Arsenal. Just the trend these days i guess. Seems it some Pantomine going on and everyone from manager to player, has their script.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Little bit handbrake.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Little bit handbrake.

Just a lil bit.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Li'l' bit sharpness.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Li'l' bit sharpness.

Lil bit more moneyness :ninja:

[AKBapologist]

Easily worth 150k a week. :coffee:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Run Theo Run save your self. :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Lol this probably cements his exit.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You know what Moe i'd not blame him, heck if i was KJH and i saw that id go to a liverpool tbh.

[KSE Comedy Club]

He'll either be sold or sign a pre contract and leave on a free.

He's not staying. He would've signed by now otherwise.

[Grebbo]

The thing I can't work out is he's not going to play as a striker for any of the top teams or Liverpool. So why use that excuse? So the reason he hasn't signed is we're shit/or he wants more money.

Just sort something out because the joke of losing our best player every summer is getting boring. At least selling him in January would break the cycle.

[Marc Overmars]

United are now reportedly interested.

:wave:

[PGFC]

If he had any intention of staying he's surely changed his mind after last night.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

United are now reportedly interested.

:wave:

walcott now, Wilshere in the summer.

[hobson's choice]

Honestly he can fuck off, mr above average

[Gervinho's Forehead]

It's sad how low the quality of player has become at Arsenal that we're now bemoaning the the imminent departure of walnutt.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The thing I can't work out is he's not going to play as a striker for any of the top teams or Liverpool. So why use that excuse? So the reason he hasn't signed is we're shit/or he wants more money.

Just sort something out because the joke of losing our best player every summer is getting boring. At least selling him in January would break the cycle.

He wants more money but has to get the fans on side somehow when he pisses off, just as the club will do.


Honestly he can fuck off, mr above average

You really think so.

[selassie]

United are now reportedly interested.

:wave:

Yeah he'll definitely go there, RVP connection, Rooney and all his England buddies.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Yeah he'll definitely go there, RVP connection, Rooney and all his England buddies.

and be played on the right wing, but its ok, he isnt about the money, its about playing up front,


****

[Özim]

IMO he's gone, with the way things are he's bound to be looking at going to a club who will win or try to win stuff...I'm not convinced it's just about playing in the right position.

If he went to Man U or a club like that and won trophies left right and centre I'm sure he'd be pretty content, especially if he's getting more money as well. Nowadays if a player lets his contract run down to beyond just over a year without resigning with us that's because he's gone IMO.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Reason enough for any Gooner to despair when there is moaning of this magnitude over an average, inconsistent git like Theo.

Fucker might unleash a fierce shot resulting in the odd goal, but he can't dribble with all the pace he's got, can't bamboozle a defender with a little trickery, thereby getting pass him, can't pass, seldom puts in a decent cross. Despite all these traits of a non-footballer, he's still among the rank of our better players.

Sad, real sad.

Fuck off Wenger.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Reason enough for any Gooner to despair when there is moaning of this magnitude over an average, inconsistent git like Theo.

Fucker might unleash a fierce shot resulting in the odd goal, but he can't dribble with all the pace he's got, can't bamboozle a defender with a little trickery, thereby getting pass him, can't pass, seldom puts in a decent cross. Despite all these traits of a non-footballer, he's still among the rank of our better players.

Sad, real sad.

Fuck off Wenger.

:gp:

Although I'm sure sir twatington fuck face will be able to do something with him.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

:gp:

Although I'm sure sir twatington fuck face will be able to do something with him.

Not sure about this again. Maybe a few years ago I'd have agreed whoelheartedly, but, of late, a bit of Wengeritis seems to have bitten that old khunt faced bastard a la Welshit.

[Niall_Quinn]

IMO he's gone, with the way things are he's bound to be looking at going to a club who will win or try to win stuff...I'm not convinced it's just about playing in the right position.

If he went to Man U or a club like that and won trophies left right and centre I'm sure he'd be pretty content, especially if he's getting more money as well. Nowadays if a player lets his contract run down to beyond just over a year without resigning with us that's because he's gone IMO.

He's a bench player at Utd and I'm not even sure he'd get the money he's after. Like he'll shift Rooney or RvC from the striker's role? Or even Welbeck or Hernadez. Not a prayer. RvC he's not and never will be. If he wants out he'll have to go to city or the chavs to get his cash. If he actually wants to play he'll have to go to Liverpool. Doubt the Utd fans would want him there either. Nobody outside Arsenal is convinced by Walcott and that's the main reason he's still here, because his realistic options are limited and nobody (mostly nobody) is fooled by the hype surrounding him.

[Marc Overmars]

If the opportunity to play for United arises, it's a bit of a no brainer form his point of view to take it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Reason enough for any Gooner to despair when there is moaning of this magnitude over an average, inconsistent git like Theo.

Fucker might unleash a fierce shot resulting in the odd goal, but he can't dribble with all the pace he's got, can't bamboozle a defender with a little trickery, thereby getting pass him, can't pass, seldom puts in a decent cross. Despite all these traits of a non-footballer, he's still among the rank of our better players.

Sad, real sad.

Fuck off Wenger.

Spot on says it all when loads are pining for him to stay.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's a bench player at Utd and I'm not even sure he'd get the money he's after. Like he'll shift Rooney or RvC from the striker's role? Or even Welbeck or Hernadez. Not a prayer. RvC he's not and never will be. If he wants out he'll have to go to city or the chavs to get his cash. If he actually wants to play he'll have to go to Liverpool. Doubt the Utd fans would want him there either. Nobody outside Arsenal is convinced by Walcott and that's the main reason he's still here, because his realistic options are limited and nobody (mostly nobody) is fooled by the hype surrounding him.

Spot on.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Juventus are lining up a £90,000-a-week deal to persuade Theo Walcott to join them in January.

Arsenal fear they may have to cash-in on Walcott next month following his refusal to sign a new deal at the club.

Although Arsene Wenger insists he will not sell the England international in January, he has gone back on his word before, after claiming he would not sell both Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri in the same window.

He buckled under the pressure with interest from Barcelona and Manchester City and sold the pair - and following Robin Van Persie's exit to Manchester United this summer, another big name star is set to leave the Emirates.

Walcott has refused to commit the club beyond his current terms and United are keen as well - but Juve want him too.

The Serie A side lost out to United for Van Persie but are ready to beat them this time, with a deal around £90,000-a-week, and a guaranteed place up front, in the offing.

Walcott will be available for as little as £8m next month as this is the final time Arsenal would be able to command a fee.


http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/121212/juventus-lining-bumper-deal-land-arsenal-star-187273

[KSE Comedy Club]

Bye.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

CHELSEA have emerged as shock favourites to land Theo Walcott from Arsenal.

Blues boss Rafa Benitez is confident of getting his man as the £15million-rated winger would not have to uproot from London.

Liverpool are long-term admirers and both Manchester clubs are keen.

But Chelsea have sent a scout to watch Walcott — and plan to use him as a more central attacker, a role the England man craves.

Interim boss Benitez will have cash to spend in next month’s transfer window.

He rates Walcott’s lightning pace as a huge asset as he looks to land a player to support Fernando Torres.

The forward, 23, has refused to sign a new £80,000-a-week contract at Arsenal — and can leave for nothing next summer when his current deal runs out.

The Gunners know they could still raise around £15m for the player by selling him in January.

Walcott is likely to try to wait until the summer before moving.

As a free agent he could command a signing-on fee of around £3m plus £90,000-a-week wages.

Chelsea are set to offload striker Daniel Sturridge to Liverpool next month leaving a spot in the squad, which they would like to fill immediately.

But the Blues are so keen on Walcott that they will press on to land the England star even if they have to wait until next summer.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4696846/Chelsea-emerge-as-shock-favourites-to-poach-Theo-Walcott.html#ixzz2EysFcOXF

[KSE Comedy Club]

Bye.

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah he's gone. He has no reason to stay. A shame but he will go with our best wishes unlike ****s such as RVC and ****esc

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Yeah he's gone. He has no reason to stay. A shame but he will go with our best wishes unlike ****s such as RVC and ****esc

Why? Isn't he as massive a **** as those two?

Anyway, he can fuck off for all I care. I've had enough of these nothing players who lack the basics of a real footballer now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why? Isn't he as massive a **** as those two?

Anyway, he can fuck off for all I care. I've had enough of these nothing players who lack the basics of a real footballer now.

If he's really turned down an eye watering and ludicrous (for his age and talent) offer of £80K a week then he's probably the greediest bastard we've ever had at the club, and we've had a few. He can see Gervinho fucking it up in front of goal, Arsenal is by far the most likely place he'll get his wish to play up front. So we can rule that out completely as the reason for his refusal to pay back any of the effort the club has poured into him. I suppose he'll have to fall back on the trophies excuse now. On the other hand, how do the newspapers know what the offer is? If they do then somebody must be leaking it and it won't be the club. 80K for Walcott, it beggars belief. That will be before bonuses too. It wouldn't surprise me if he sits January out and goes for the even bigger pay day in the summer. That'll be a risk if Wenger decides to reward him for his astounding disloyalty and ingratitude. But with silly clubs in the game like city and the chavs he'll likely still have bench options at either club.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

If he's really turned down an eye watering and ludicrous (for his age and talent) offer of £80K a week then he's probably the greediest bastard we've ever had at the club, and we've had a few. He can see Gervinho fucking it up in front of goal, Arsenal is by far the most likely place he'll get his wish to play up front. So we can rule that out completely as the reason for his refusal to pay back any of the effort the club has poured into him. I suppose he'll have to fall back on the trophies excuse now. On the other hand, how do the newspapers know what the offer is? If they do then somebody must be leaking it and it won't be the club. 80K for Walcott, it beggars belief. That will be before bonuses too. It wouldn't surprise me if he sits January out and goes for the even bigger pay day in the summer. That'll be a risk if Wenger decides to reward him for his astounding disloyalty and ingratitude. But with silly clubs in the game like city and the chavs he'll likely still have bench options at either club.

Obviously the greedy **** has an over-inflated opinion of himself, further fueled by the scaly media gits. Wenger does get it right in not rating his average arse.

This game has truly gone to the dogs when a non- footballer like Theo can hold out on a club of our size and prestige at bay over contract negotiations. The petro billionaire clubs have really fucked over football by paying these average players huge wages just to even sit on their bench. Every talentless piece of turd has morphed into a mercenary these days because of the Chavscum and Citeh.

[Xhaka Can’t]

He may go with your best wishes - that is your choice, but don't speak for the rest of us.

[Power n Glory]

Why the shock? We're on a massive decline, Wenger would rather try Gervinho up front over Walcott and we sell our best players every year then fail to replace them. He'd be an fool to sign up for more years of this.

[fakeyank]

Why the shock? We're on a massive decline, Wenger would rather try Gervinho up front over Walcott and we sell our best players every year then fail to replace them. He'd be an fool to sign up for more years of this.

:gp:

No player with even the remotest ambition would sign for us now. On top of that, when you offer 80K while shit like Squillaci and Chakma are making 60K, I am surprised Walcott hasnt publicly come out and said that he is leaving this joke of a club!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yeah he's gone. He has no reason to stay. A shame but he will go with our best wishes unlike ****s such as RVC and ****esc

He'll go with my best wishes like Cesc and RVC did. Don't mean he won't be called a ****. :lol:

End off the day if he goes stays not bothered, just get it done soon.

Straight swap for Nani tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:gp:

No player with even the remotest ambition would sign for us now. On top of that, when you offer 80K while shit like Squillaci and Chakma are making 60K, I am surprised Walcott hasnt publicly come out and said that he is leaving this joke of a club!

Yes and have the fans turn on him, and they will. They already are.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Obviously the greedy **** has an over-inflated opinion of himself, further fueled by the scaly media gits. Wenger does get it right in not rating his average arse.

This game has truly gone to the dogs when a non- footballer like Theo can hold out on a club of our size and prestige at bay over contract negotiations. The petro billionaire clubs have really fucked over football by paying these average players huge wages just to even sit on their bench. Every talentless piece of turd has morphed into a mercenary these days because of the Chavscum and Citeh.

Spot on the guy has been going on about playing as a stiker, when we all know its BS. Put it this way. He is not good enough to play as a striker for Utd or City. So if his choice is to go to the mancs. then he'd be on the wings or on the bench.

Like you say just because he thinks he should be payed that amount don't think he should.

Whats even more funny is alot of Utd fans don't rate him anyway.

[Cripps_orig]

Why? Isn't he as massive a **** as those two? Anyway, he can fuck off for all I care. I've had enough of these nothing players who lack the basics of a real footballer now.Nowhere near being a **** let alone a massive **** like those two ****s. Why? Couple of reasons. 1 - he will have seen out his contract. That's loyalty. He could have left us mid contract like those ****s but he stayed. 2 - those ****s left us when we were in the CL. Theo will leave us when we are in mid table/relegation battle/Bradfords bitches. How can anyone expect him to stay? He's an excellent footballer. He's loved by all true gooners and if he stays he is automatically an Arsenal legend but he won't and we can't blame him for that. Its not for money. That's clear to all and sundry. Its about being lied to by our manager every year and Theo has had enough and is now telling Wenger to put up or shut up in playing him up front. He's seen the likes of Gervinho given a chance and he's been shite and Giroud who's been average. Theo is better than both yet he doesn't get a chance? What's up with that?

[Power n Glory]

I doubt he'll play up front for Man Utd but I think he'd develop into a better winger there compared to here. The noise he's making now about playing upfront is a subtle way of criticising Wenger's development system.

[Cripps_orig]

I can see him upfront for Mancs alongside RVC with Wazza just behind. He's better than Welbeck by far and Hernandez is a super sub

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I can see him upfront for Mancs alongside RVC with Wazza just behind. He's better than Welbeck by far and Hernandez is a super sub

No way will That happen.

[Özim]

I personally think none of our players believe we have a hope of winning anything and the opportunity to go to a club that does is very appealing, Walcott if he does go to somewhere like United will be happy to play simply because he'll know he's part of a team genuinely challenging for trophies that in itself is a motivator to leave.

You can't convince players to stay with out current policy, no player wants to end up 4th for his entire career, after a while it becomes tiresome to see your team falling apart when it matters most.

Ideally Walcott would like to play up front, however I'm sure he'd have no complaints if he was playing on the wing at a big club challenging for honours.

RVP told us pretty much what we already knew in the summer, we lack ambition but when a player comes out and says so he's jumped on as if he's committed mass murder, the facts are there we don't really compete (even though Wenger says we do, he reckons we are very close in both the league and CL every year) for the honours and no player with other clubs interested will stick around as long as this continues.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I personally think none of our players believe we have a hope of winning anything and the opportunity to go to a club that does is very appealing, Walcott if he does go to somewhere like United will be happy to play simply because he'll know he's part of a team genuinely challenging for trophies that in itself is a motivator to leave.

You can't convince players to stay with out current policy, no player wants to end up 4th for his entire career, after a while it becomes tiresome to see your team falling apart when it matters most.

Ideally Walcott would like to play up front, however I'm sure he'd have no complaints if he was playing on the wing at a big club challenging for honours.

RVP told us pretty much what we already knew in the summer, we lack ambition but when a player comes out and says so he's jumped on as if he's committed mass murder, the facts are there we don't really compete (even though Wenger says we do, he reckons we are very close in both the league and CL every year) for the honours and no player with other clubs interested will stick around as long as this continues.

Then he should have STFU with all the crap about wanting to play uptop and said i want to leave simples.

[Özim]

Then he should have STFU with all the crap about wanting to play uptop and said i want to leave simples.
Maybe but I reckon he's basically giving himself an easy get out, if he doesn't get played there and he leaves he can say look this is why I left. I reckon he doesn't have the front to come out and say what he's really thinking, he doesn't seem the type.

[Marc Overmars]

Then he should have STFU with all the crap about wanting to play uptop and said i want to leave simples.

Thing is, I reckon he wants to stay because he won't be a key player at United that's for sure. He wants top dollar though because staying with us is the harder option, I think.

[Cripps_orig]

No way will That happen.Um Ferguson has done it a number of times this season...

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Maybe but I reckon he's basically giving himself an easy get out, if he doesn't get played there and he leaves he can say look this is why I left. I reckon he doesn't have the front to come out and say what he's really thinking, he doesn't seem the type.

Very true. Hech don't blame the lad for leaving, don't really care if he goes or stays. Just want this whole thing sorted.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Um Ferguson has done it a number of times this season...

Yes but Theo is not as good as the strikers he has. Fergie is not stupid to put Theo uptop when he is not even consistant for us let alone them.

RVP and Rooney are fine where they are. Hernadez is much better then Theo and will always be 3rd stiker. Theo will only be Nani's replacment their.

Only places he will play up top is pool or Chavs(unless they buy Falcao).

[Cripps_orig]

Yes but Theo is not as good as the strikers he has. Fergie is not stupid to put Theo uptop when he is not even consistant for us let alone them. RVP and Rooney are fine where they are. Hernadez is much better then Theo and will always be 3rd stiker. Theo will only be Nani's replacment their. Only places he will play up top is pool or Chavs(unless they buy Falcao).:lol:........As for Fergie not playing him uptop cos he's not consistent for us, he's never played for us uptop so how can he be consistent?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

As for Fergie not playing him uptop cos he's not consistent for us, he's never played for us uptop so how can he be consistent?

Says it all. If Wenger don't rate him to play up top. Then why would SAF who is a much better manager. When he has 2 world class strikers there already.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's loved by all true gooners and if he stays he is automatically an Arsenal legend but he won't and we can't blame him for that.

Could you please keep it on topic! This is a thread about Theo Walcott.

[Cripps_orig]

Says it all. If Wenger don't rate him to play up top. Then why would SAF who is a much better manager. When he has 2 world class strikers there already.Cos Wengers a fool?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Could you please keep it on topic! This is a thread about Theo Walcott.

:haha:

Automatic legend Theo.

Ach must be on the wum. Very good sir very good.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Cos Wengers a fool?

Maybe so, still don't rate him there and if a fool don't then someone like SAF won't he be used a a winger its that simple. Nani's goes Theo comes in.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Nowhere near being a **** let alone a massive **** like those two ****s. Why? Couple of reasons. 1 - he will have seen out his contract. That's loyalty. He could have left us mid contract like those ****s but he stayed. 2 - those ****s left us when we were in the CL. Theo will leave us when we are in mid table/relegation battle/Bradfords bitches. How can anyone expect him to stay? He's an excellent footballer. He's loved by all true gooners and if he stays he is automatically an Arsenal legend but he won't and we can't blame him for that. Its not for money. That's clear to all and sundry. Its about being lied to by our manager every year and Theo has had enough and is now telling Wenger to put up or shut up in playing him up front. He's seen the likes of Gervinho given a chance and he's been shite and Giroud who's been average. Theo is better than both yet he doesn't get a chance? What's up with that?

Oh stop the noise about him playing up top its about the money, plain and simple. He won't go to many top teams and play up top and he knows that. These lot give him 120K he sign that deal faster then Flash Gordon.

[Cripps_orig]

I don't know how fast Flash Gordon signs contracts tbh :(

[LDG]

I don't know how fast Flash Gordon signs contracts tbh :(

Gordon's alive?

[Power n Glory]

Then he should have STFU with all the crap about wanting to play uptop and said i want to leave simples.

As if that would make a difference to some of the reactions on here. RVP spelled things out clearly in the summer and it wasn't received very well at all even though we all finally knew where we stood with him.

[Power n Glory]

Says it all. If Wenger don't rate him to play up top. Then why would SAF who is a much better manager. When he has 2 world class strikers there already.

Wenger plays Ramsey on the flank and Gervinho up front. Gervinho didn't even take a penalty against Bradford City yet he's getting games up front when he's missing sitters. I don't trust Wenger's judgement anymore.

[LDG]

It's really difficult to sum up any enthusiasm for any of the players anymore.

Theo? Who gives a shit.

The only thing that means anything to me anymore, is the club. And the club are effectively the supporters now. What a sad state of affairs.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Could you please keep it on topic! This is a thread about Theo Walcott.

Was going to respond to the drivel too, but you've said as much here.

Legend :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

The inability of GWers to read is impressive

[Özil's Panoramic View]

We do read. You said he would become a legend had he stayed on (though he's not really gone yet, but the writing is there on the wall and GWers have read it, even though you might believe otherwise). And what you said was taken for what you meant it to be - a big joke.

Only attribute the lad has is pace which will see him winning a foot race to the ball, often times than not, over a defender. He'll also score a few goals every now and then, but that's about it for him. He can't dribble, can't pass, can't head a ball, can't be relied on for a decent cross or be expected to get pass a defender in a situation where a little trickery to do such is required.

Feo :haha:

Excellent player :haha:

Legend :haha:

Cripps :bow:

Shocker :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Ah the old cant dribble and pass chestnut

Ignoring his assists record i see :haha:

Theo haters sure do have some shockers on here.

As for the legend bi, he will be one if he stays cos he is staying while all the other rats are deserting a sinking ship. He wont stay though cos of the lies Wenger has told him.

[Kano]

and contribute a healthy amount of assists and goals from out wide when no other fucker seems able to for years. best thing we should do is sell him because our policy of selling our important players is working out really well for us.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

:lol: this thread.

what a mess.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ah the old cant dribble and pass chestnut

Ignoring his assists record i see :haha:

Theo haters sure do have some shockers on here.

As for the legend bi, he will be one if he stays cos he is staying while all the other rats are deserting a sinking ship. He wont stay though cos of the lies Wenger has told him.

Au contraire, I don't hate Theo. I just call him how I see him. Him now being a massive **** is probably not his own doing, so it's kind of harsh for us to lay into him for demanding to be treated as a super talent.

The blame must be layed squarely at the idiotic media pundits who created this whole mess of projecting him as a wonder kid. Face it, it's clear that Theo's football intelligence isn't at the level of a top player. He has what I like to call football autism, though his is a bit mild. He has the raw pace and a good shot which are key ingredients to make him into a feared striker. But, he just can't seem to get everything ticking all at once - at least not often enough. Imo, he's fully aware of this shortcoming, and it must affect his confidence to an extent. Hence, him shying away into anonymity in lots of games.

[Niall_Quinn]

and contribute a healthy amount of assists and goals from out wide when no other fucker seems able to for years. best thing we should do is sell him because our policy of selling our important players is working out really well for us.

Walcott's running down his contract, he wants out. He wants to go and play for another team. He'll be in a different shirt trying to score against us. Why do we give a shit about this player any more? Why do we give him even the slightest sympathy?

[Cripps_orig]

Walcott's running down his contract, he wants out. He wants to go and play for another team. He'll be in a different shirt trying to score against us. Why do we give a shit about this player any more? Why do we give him even the slightest sympathy?

Cos hes an Arsenal player who wants to play for us but doesnt accept the BS Wenger keeps spouting?

[Kano]

Walcott's running down his contract, he wants out. He wants to go and play for another team. He'll be in a different shirt trying to score against us. Why do we give a shit about this player any more? Why do we give him even the slightest sympathy?
none of them do (bar jack and jenks) but the important thing is that we try and retain those that at least offer something when they are on the pitch. he does that. so in a situation when we are sinking down the plughole i'd rather we kept those that at least work in this system and can stick the ball in the net or set something up. because once his stats leave the team - who is there to replace them? as we are seeing at the moment, absolutely no-one.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Au contraire, I don't hate Theo. I just call him how I see him. Him now being a massive **** is probably not his own doing, so it's kind of harsh for us to lay into him for demanding to be treated as a super talent.

The blame must be layed squarely at the idiotic media pundits who created this whole mess of projecting him as a wonder kid. Face it, it's clear that Theo's football intelligence isn't at the level of a top player. He has what I like to call football autism, though his is a bit mild. He has the raw pace and a good shot which are key ingredients to make him into a feared striker. But, he just can't seem to get everything ticking all at once - at least not often enough. Imo, he's fully aware of this shortcoming, and it must affect his confidence to an extent. Hence, him shying away into anonymity in lots of games.

:gp:


Walcott's running down his contract, he wants out. He wants to go and play for another team. He'll be in a different shirt trying to score against us. Why do we give a shit about this player any more? Why do we give him even the slightest sympathy?
:gp:

Wenger plays Ramsey on the flank and Gervinho up front. Gervinho didn't even take a penalty against Bradford City yet he's getting games up front when he's missing sitters. I don't trust Wenger's judgement anymore.

Not saying you have to, but SAF is no fool, he won't buy Theo and play him as a striker he just won't.


It's really difficult to sum up any enthusiasm for any of the players anymore.

Theo? Who gives a shit.

The only thing that means anything to me anymore, is the club. And the club are effectively the supporters now. What a sad state of affairs.

:gp:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

As if that would make a difference to some of the reactions on here. RVP spelled things out clearly in the summer and it wasn't received very well at all even though we all finally knew where we stood with him.

If he says i want out, then everyone knows where we stand. We ask the manager and the board be honest with us, then players should to. People were upset with RVP because of what he did on his website. Had he attacked the board and manager then people may have been ok with that. He just seemed to take it out on the club and to hell with the fans, who loved him.

[selassie]

Rumours flyers around...take it with a pinch of salt because it's Twitter, but supposedly he's agreed terms with Chelsea.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if it's true.

[Power n Glory]

If he says i want out, then everyone knows where we stand. We ask the manager and the board be honest with us, then players should to. People were upset with RVP because of what he did on his website. Had he attacked the board and manager then people may have been ok with that. He just seemed to take it out on the club and to hell with the fans, who loved him.

:lol: As seen with the RVP case, some fans need babying when it comes to how much is disclosed. The club tried to make out that RVP wanted to leave for City and wanted more money but RVP revealed what actaully happened. Talks went sour and there wasn't an offical contract offer made by the club. We had already decided to sell after the talks.


Had he attacked the board and manager then people may have been ok with that. He just seemed to take it out on the club and to hell with the fans, who loved him.

That makes no sense. He did attack the Board and Wenger by saying who was present during the meeting and said they lacked ambition. Was he lying?

[Harvey Specter]

Money, position, seeing what clubs are interested.

All things all players do when renewing their contract.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol: As seen with the RVP case, some fans need babying when it comes to how much is disclosed. The club tried to make out that RVP wanted to leave for City and wanted more money but RVP revealed what actaully happened. Talks went sour and there wasn't an offical contract offer made by the club. We had already decided to sell after the talks.

That makes no sense. He did attack the Board and Wenger by saying who was present during the meeting and said they lacked ambition. Was he lying?

RVP kept Prasing Wenger, instead of saying he failed him etc. Anyway you look at it RVC suck 2 fingers up at the fans no matter how the club treated him.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Rumours flyers around...take it with a pinch of salt because it's Twitter, but supposedly he's agreed terms with Chelsea.

I wouldn't be overly surprised if it's true.

CFC Camden :bow:

[Power n Glory]

Rubbish. Fans will take issue with any key player that wants to leave the club even if the reasons are valid and something they agree with. There wasn't a thing RVP could say to stop the backlash. With Cesc, he kept his mouth shut throughout his ordeal with Barca and he was getting pelted for it and people said he should 'man up' and speak for himself.

RVP does that and he still gets pelted. He didn't stick two fingers up at the fans and didn't take any parting shots the way Nasri or Ade did.

[GP]

RVP does that and he still gets pelted. He didn't stick two fingers up at the fans and didn't take any parting shots the way Nasri or Ade did.

:lol:

His 'statement for the fans' was nothing more than a massive 'fuck you' to all of us and you have to be massively up his arse to not see it.

[Özim]

Rubbish. Fans will take issue with any key player that wants to leave the club even if the reasons are valid and something they agree with. There wasn't a thing RVP could say to stop the backlash. With Cesc, he kept his mouth shut throughout his ordeal with Barca and he was getting pelted for it and people said he should 'man up' and speak for himself.

RVP does that and he still gets pelted. He didn't stick two fingers up at the fans and didn't take any parting shots the way Nasri or Ade did.
Pretty much, nothing wrong with what RVP said to be honest, he wasn't disrepectful he said it as it was and I personally respect him for that. We knew the club lacked ambition he simply confirmed it so that noone can question this anymore.

You're right though, fans will criticise a player for leaving...so it's damned if you do damned if you don't. I personally can't see why a top player would want to stay with us right now, what have we really got on offer to make them stay....a 4th place trophy? Please only Wenger and the board give a sh*t about that.

Nothing RVP says was negative about the fans, he talked about Wenger and the board not the fans, I don't like to see our best players leave but I've accepted we're not really giving them any incentives to stay so we can't be surprised when they move on.

[Özim]

On the subject of Walcott, well he'll get more money elsewhere and probably a better chance of success as well for a start, so isn't that an incentive to leave in itself?

He's not being played in the position he wants either, so it's hard to see why he'd choose to stay.

[Cripps_orig]

No problem with what RVP said. The problem lies with who he joined so fuck the ****. If the Theo rumours to chelsea are true, good luck to him

[Özim]

True but we made the choice to sell him to them, there was a time where we'd have never considered it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Rubbish. Fans will take issue with any key player that wants to leave the club even if the reasons are valid and something they agree with. There wasn't a thing RVP could say to stop the backlash. With Cesc, he kept his mouth shut throughout his ordeal with Barca and he was getting pelted for it and people said he should 'man up' and speak for himself.

RVP does that and he still gets pelted. He didn't stick two fingers up at the fans and didn't take any parting shots the way Nasri or Ade did.

If you believe that Van persie loved the fans or the club then more fool you. Theo is diffrent, IMO more fans would get behind him, as he go in a dignified way, not write stuff on his website and then go.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No problem with what RVP said. The problem lies with who he joined so fuck the ****. If the Theo rumours to chelsea are true, good luck to him

This, least Th14, Paddy V, Cesc, had the respect for the fans to play abroad. RVP wanted to go to UTD, was not forced he wanted to go there ad fergie said.

Got no problem with him leaving, don't mean he don't deserve to be booed.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

True but we made the choice to sell him to them, there was a time where we'd have never considered it.

Yeah we sold him, nothing stops him going to Jueventus or a PSG. For all his talk of i love this club, then his 1st choice to go to UTD, pretty much said fuck you to the fans.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:lol:

His 'statement for the fans' was nothing more than a massive 'fuck you' to all of us and you have to be massively up his arse to not see it.

Pretty much. Don't blame That on RVC, blame in for the boy inside him tbh.

[Özim]

Yeah we sold him, nothing stops him going to Jueventus or a PSG. For all his talk of i love this club, then his 1st choice to go to UTD, pretty much said fuck you to the fans.
Maybe he didn't fancy playing in France or Italy, moving to a new country isn't always a simple decision, in addition out of those three teams, Man U are in the biggest league and have the best chance of success in Europe as well.

It's not like Barca or Real came in for him.

In reality though, it's not like the old days for me, we not really rivals of Man U anymore.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Pretty much, nothing wrong with what RVP said to be honest, he wasn't disrepectful he said it as it was and I personally respect him for that. We knew the club lacked ambition he simply confirmed it so that noone can question this anymore.

You're right though, fans will criticise a player for leaving...so it's damned if you do damned if you don't. I personally can't see why a top player would want to stay with us right now, what have we really got on offer to make them stay....a 4th place trophy? Please only Wenger and the board give a sh*t about that.

Nothing RVP says was negative about the fans, he talked about Wenger and the board not the fans, I don't like to see our best players leave but I've accepted we're not really giving them any incentives to stay so we can't be surprised when they move on.

Nope, Henry, Patrick V, Got criticised for leaving, don't even think Cesc did. Players that disrect the club and its fans get criticised and rightly so.

[Özim]

Nope, Henry, Patrick V, Got criticised for leaving, don't even think Cesc did. Players that disrect the club and its fans get criticised and rightly so.
No true, the reaction to those was they're past it....so it's a good thing they moved on (I don't agree with this btw) in addition they'd won loads with us and wanted to add the CL to their CV. Fans also thought Wenger decided to sell them (which makes it ok for some reason?) Only Cesc was young when he left and he got criticism for sure.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Maybe he didn't fancy playing in France or Italy, moving to a new country isn't always a simple decision, in addition out of those three teams, Man U are in the biggest league and have the best chance of success in Europe as well.

It's not like Barca or Real came in for him.

In reality though, it's not like the old days for me, we not really rivals of Man U anymore.

Then why not wait ti run his contract down, then he'd have the pick of the clubs.

[Özim]

Then why not wait ti run his contract down, then he'd have the pick of the clubs.
He's 29 probably didn't want to waste anymore time winning diddly squat, time isn't on his side.

[Power n Glory]

:lol:

His 'statement for the fans' was nothing more than a massive 'fuck you' to all of us and you have to be massively up his arse to not see it.

It's like talking to children. Both you and Charlie.

Clear examples of what I'm talking about. No common sense. The type of people that will slate a player for holding his cards close to chest, like the Cesc situation, but if the true we're spoken you'd have no idea how to take it and think he's personally insulted you. :doh:

Check out Charlie...one minute he says Theo needs to speak up and say what he's doing but on the other hand judges the RVP situation in a totally different light and is slating him. Inconsistent.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It's like talking to children. Both you and Charlie.

Clear examples of what I'm talking about. No common sense. The type of people that will slate a player for holding his cards close to chest, like the Cesc situation, but if the true we're spoken you'd have no idea how to take it and think he's personally insulted you. :doh:

Check out Charlie...one minute he says Theo needs to speak up and say what he's doing but on the other hand judges the RVP situation in a totally different light and is slating him. Inconsistent.

No what i saying is if Theo comes out and says i want to leave, we'd all know where we stand. Will fan boo him? maybe. RVP on the other hand kept the fans waiting. Till he made some statement on his website. That was not only a fuck you to the club but fans too.

I never said Theo should say he hates the club etc. Just if he wants to go say so.

[Power n Glory]

RVP was banned from talking to the press after he held talks with Wenger and Gazidis. They slapped an embargo on him and then tried to screw him over by making it out that he was after City money and fans started turning on him from that point on. He puts out a statement to clear things up and somehow it made things worse. People were saying it made it impossible for us to keep him and position at the club untenable which was rubbish. We bought Poldolski early, before the window even opened and Giroud straight after those contract talks and before the Euros kicked off. We didn't even have a contract offer on the table for him because the talks were so bad. We knew we couldn't keep him and it stems back to months before where Wenger questioned the sense of offering a huge salary to player that's almost at the end of his performance peak. That hint that we'd sell was dropped months ago and people still don't get it. It's unbelievable that we keep having these sort of discussions about players. It's the same way people were quick to say it's okay to let Song go and lap up the rubbish about him being lazy in training. We now see how much of mistake it was to sell.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

:haha:

GW :bow:

[Maestro]

:bow:

....all i can say is "i love gw"

[Maestro]

:haha:

GW :bow:


:good:

[selassie]

I think Fans got mad at RVP for where he went. I was pissed but you can hardly blame him for going there, look at him/them now. It's all about ambition, we all know it is right? It's got fuck all to do with money when the club you play for happily sells it's best players every single summer, not 1, but 2 at a time these days.

Don't worry though, we all take comfort from the fact we're told we're selling our stars for footballing reasons. :rolleyes:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

:haha:

GW :bow:
I miss old GW.

And I wish Walcott would hurry up and make his mind up/just announce it publicly...

[Maestro]

I miss old GW.

And I wish Walcott would hurry up and make his mind up/just announce it publicly...

don't think theo should do any such thing, what and deny us this much fun on here

don't do anything theo stay as you are

[Power n Glory]

I think Fans got mad at RVP for where he went. I was pissed but you can hardly blame him for going there, look at him/them now. It's all about ambition, we all know it is right? It's got fuck all to do with money when the club you play for happily sells it's best players every single summer, not 1, but 2 at a time these days.

Don't worry though, we all take comfort from the fact we're told we're selling our stars for footballing reasons. :rolleyes:

True, it pisses me off to see him wearing that Manure shirt and seeing him score every week. But before he moved to Man Utd and when he released that statement, it was mayhem. Threads on here, his Twitter account, you saw that Youtube clip of the Arsenal fans going into one. That statement caused a serious backlash. That's why it's best the players just to say nothing.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I miss old GW.

And I wish Walcott would hurry up and make his mind up/just announce it publicly...

So do i tbh. everyone seemed more relaxed tbh.

[AKBapologist]

Easily worth £175k per week.

Top scorer and our attack can't function without him. Clearly he's going to be sold this winter/summer. :coffee:

[Cripps_orig]

Played upfront and did more than any of our other strikers this season

Keep him up there and get him to sign

[Power n Glory]

His movement created a lot of space.

[Syn]

Tbh I think the space was always there. That's why, as MS said, Podolski and Chamberlain found some success too. Nobody had to be work too hard today. Cazorla found it all too easy and netted 3 times. Walcott did his job well (including hold-up play). His pace offers a simple out ball and you don't get that option with anyone else. Walcott's goal was superbly taken too.

Really hope he signs a new contract because we're absolutely sick of it. It's not a numbing feeling it's just pure frustration. We keep seeing youngsters develop into quality players - they make their mistakes with us and we suffer through each one. Once they've learned enough to be good, we can't hold on to them. Wilshere says he has been trying to persuade Theo all year but I think we're past the point where we can expect good news.

[Niall_Quinn]

His movement created a lot of space.

It's not his movement as such because he makes the wrong decision more times than the right one. It's his pace and the threat of it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sign da ting Theo. Just hope he was not playing to be put in the shop window.

[Power n Glory]

Tbh I think the space was always there. That's why, as MS said, Podolski and Chamberlain found some success too. Nobody had to be work too hard today. Cazorla found it all too easy and netted 3 times. Walcott did his job well (including hold-up play). His pace offers a simple out ball and you don't get that option with anyone else. Walcott's goal was superbly taken too.

Really hope he signs a new contract because we're absolutely sick of it. It's not a numbing feeling it's just pure frustration. We keep seeing youngsters develop into quality players - they make their mistakes with us and we suffer through each one. Once they've learned enough to be good, we can't hold on to them. Wilshere says he has been trying to persuade Theo all year but I think we're past the point where we can expect good news.

True, Reading weren't as solid but what I like with Theo is that he's quick enough to drop back to play a one two and then dart into the box so someone like Santi or Wilshere can play him in. Plus, because he's always on the move it makes it hard for him to be marked and if they get too close to him he'll drag them out of position. He'll link up well with Santi, JW, Pod and Ox better because he's not so static but he also doesn't lose focus on getting into goal scoring positions. But at least he's shown he can play up front. Played in some good passes, good touches and knew what to do when he had his back to goal. Didn't lose it with a loose touch or get bundled over.

[Kano]

even with a deep lying defence his pace can still stretch and keep them there which helps the midfield lot. promising start there tonight.

[Power n Glory]

As Nevile said, even though he's small, back in his day he'd prefer to play against a big man like Giroud because he knows he won't run in behind him and you can get close to a more static striker. A guy that's always moving and so quick is a nightmare. But not to take anything away from Giorud because I think we'll need his style for certain games.

[Kano]

seriously, as i've said before, if we can pay so many average joes good wages, if money is the sticking point for theo, just pay the lad. he is becoming our most important player in terms of end product and if others before him have been paid in accordance with that status, he should get it.

either way, just sort it out gazidis/wenger/agents/theo. sick of these things lingering over the club. i think the english contingent being close to signing up again might help too.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

seriously, as i've said before, if we can pay so many average joes good wages, if money is the sticking point for theo, just pay the lad. he is becoming our most important player in terms of end product and if others before him have been paid in accordance with that status, he should get it.

either way, just sort it out gazidis/wenger/agents/theo. sick of these things lingering over the club. i think the english contingent being close to signing up again might help too.

Spot on.

[selassie]

seriously, as i've said before, if we can pay so many average joes good wages, if money is the sticking point for theo, just pay the lad. he is becoming our most important player in terms of end product and if others before him have been paid in accordance with that status, he should get it.

either way, just sort it out gazidis/wenger/agents/theo. sick of these things lingering over the club. i think the english contingent being close to signing up again might help too.

Yep, we must do all we can to tie Theo down to a long term contract. The boy is developing into a fine player and make no mistake, we'll lose out big time if he moves to one of the top 3.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

THOMAS VERMAELEN has begged Arsenal to do whatever it takes to keep Theo Walcott.

England star Walcott, 23, could leave the Gunners as early as next month after contract talks broke down.

Chelsea and Liverpool both want to nab the ace, who has rejected an £80,000-a-week offer at the Emirates.

£15million-rated Walcott scored yesterday playing in his favoured central striker role as Arsenal beat Reading 5-2.

And skipper Vermaelen said: “Of course we want him to stay but that is something that is going on between the player and the club.

“I don’t know what is going on behind the scenes — we don’t talk about it.

"Of course, Theo has been invaluable for us when he played this year. He is dangerous for us and I hope he could stay.

“We don’t talk about it because that is going on in football all the time. It happened last time with Robin van Persie in the summer.

"It’s the job of the board and the club what they are going to do with it so we can’t do anything about it.

“We know his qualities — he is quick and goes in behind defenders all the time — and I think we could find him yesterday and it helped us score a few goals.”

Last night’s win at the Madejski was the Gunners’ first outing since their Capital One Cup humiliation against Bradford.

Vermaelen missed the deciding spot-kick at Valley Parade as Arsene Wenger’s men crashed out on penalties.

The defender added: “The team were disappointed because, of course, you want to win.

"But the thing is we were focused straight away again and we know in England we have so many games that we can make it up again immediately.

“You can’t stand still too long with a defeat like that — you just learn from it and move on.

“We had a lot to prove. A lot of people questioned us, and maybe that’s normal, but we wanted to perform yesterday and we think we did that.”


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4703969/Theo-Walcott-transfer-Thomas-Vermaelen-begs-Arsenal-to-keep-Walcott.html#ixzz2FQH33Pz1

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Stewart Robson claims Theo Walcott (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/players/p20467/theo-walcott) is not a centre-forward and should revert to his normal right wing position.
The Gunners (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/clubs/t3/arsenal) star has been desperate to play up front and got his wish during the 5-2 Premier League win against Reading (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/clubs/t108/reading), getting on the scoresheet in the process.
But former Highbury favourite Robson believes the former Southampton (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/clubs/t20/southampton) star isn’t technically strong enough to lead the line for the north London side.

“I don’t think that Theo Walcott is a centre-forward,” he told Hawksbee and Jacobs. “There was a myth going round about him playing there all the way through the youth game but, whenever I went to go and watch Southampton, he was a right winger and played a few games in their first team as a centre-forward.
“If you’re going to play as a centre-forward you have to be good with your back to goal. Theo Walcott is not very good with his back to goal, he gives it away around 80% of the time.”
Arsenal have been linked to both Newcastle (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/clubs/t4/newcastle)’s Demba Ba (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/players/p47412/demba-ba) and Schalke star Klaas Jan-Huntelaar but Robson went on to state that he would be shocked if Arsene Wenger (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/term/arsene-wenger) landed either player.
“They’re both players who Arsene Wenger could go for but they don’t fit the normal style of pay that Arsenal usually go for, maybe he’s just beginning to change is philosophy,” he added.


http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/121218/exclusive-stewart-robson-claims-arsenal-star-theo-walcott-not-good-enoug-1876

Robson :haha:

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Arsene Wenger insists Arsenal still hope to resolve their contract wrangle with Theo Walcott and persuade the England attacker to sign a new deal.

Walcott scored in Arsenal's 5-2 win at Reading and gave a fine display in his preferred position of central striker.

His contract expires next summer and Chelsea, Liverpool and both Manchester clubs have been linked with moves. "It is not my decision - it is Theo's decision as well. If it is my decision it is quickly done," said Wenger.

"I believe he has been educated at Southampton and Arsenal and he has become a top player. I hope that when he considers his future he will consider Arsenal is the best place for him and sign for us."

Walcott signed from Southampton as a 16-year-old in 2006 for an initial £5m rising to £12.5m and has scored 52 goals in 237 appearances for the Gunners.

Arsenal are understood to be willing to pay him around £75,000 per week but the player has yet to agree terms.

The 23-year-old also wants a regular run as Wenger's main striker, where he played to such good effect at the Madejski Stadium.

Walcott said: "Talks are ongoing and it's going to be a slow process. It's taking a long time but hopefully something will happen soon."

Wenger is keen to keep Walcott after watching Robin van Persie and Samir Nasri leave Emirates Stadium during the final year of their contracts in recent seasons.

The Frenchman is also hoping Walcott's fellow England internationals Jack Wilshere, Kieran Gibbs and Carl Jenkinson will agree new long-term deals.

Wenger said: "I do not want to come out on details of Walcott's contract but simply say our desire and will is clear and he knows that. Hopefully we can get to a happy ending. "I believe we have a good core of young English players. We couldn't keep the good core of young foreign players. We hope we will be capable of building a team around the young English players and achieve something together."

Monday's win at Reading may have eased some of the growing pressure on Wenger, who suffered heavy criticism from supporters following Arsenal's shock Capital One Cup quarter-final defeat at League Two Bradford City.

He said: "Our game is based on movement and technical quality and that demands freedom of initiative. When you are in a crisis that sometimes suffers but we have to go beyond that."

Asked whether he thought Arsenal's season had descended into crisis after the loss to Bradford, he added: "It depends what you call a crisis. If you are being slaughtered by everybody you are in a super crisis.

"In the championship our run is not so bad recently. We lost just one of the last six, but because we had not won them and were starting in the middle [of the table], no win becomes highlighted. This run is not fantastic, but not disastrous.

"It was difficult but it was also interesting because you look around and you can see who is mentally strong. It is a test when you have been in a position like we were in.

"There was a unity and I'm pleased everyone in the club remained on board and focused. That's what it is all about."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20764729

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Arsene Wenger insists Arsenal still hope to resolve their contract wrangle with Theo Walcott and persuade the England attacker to sign a new deal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20764729

He's gone.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He's gone.

So's his face :coffee:

[Injury Time]

meh.

[Master Splinter]

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/121218/exclusive-stewart-robson-claims-arsenal-star-theo-walcott-not-good-enoug-1876

Robson :haha:



This is actually the only sensible thing Robson has ever spluttered. Not that Walcott can't improve his game in time.

[Joker]

He's hardly ever been played up front, I don't know how Robson can be sure that he's not good enough to play there. He did well yesterday (albeit against a terrible Reading side) and we won't know for sure until we see him in that position for an extended period of time.

[IBK]

I have to say that for me, Walcott has shown his usefulness to the club. I'm impressed with his response to challenge, and I think he has harsher critics than the likes of Song or Vermaelen have had.

[Özim]

So's his face :coffee:
I hope so, his face wouldn't be much good on the pitch, especially on the wing where legs are probably more important.

[Özim]

I have to say that for me, Walcott has shown his usefulness to the club. I'm impressed with his response to challenge, and I think he has harsher critics than the likes of Song or Vermaelen have had.
Time will tell but I reckon he might be on his way and his response is the typical "shop window" response we see from players before they leave, once they get the move most of them never perform again.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Time will tell but I reckon he might be on his way and his response is the typical "shop window" response we see from players before they leave, once they get the move most of them never perform again.

Well if he is playing for the shop window and to get his move, then he deserves to be booed if he leaves the club.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Well if he is playing for the shop window and to get his move, then he deserves to be booed if he leaves the club.

Like he'll give a f***.

[Özim]

Like he'll give a f***.
Pretty much. Would RVP rather not be booed by us and be with us right now or at Man U where he's challenging for the title?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Like he'll give a f***.

Not saying he would or he does now.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Pretty much. Would RVP rather not be booed by us and be with us right now or at Man U where he's challenging for the title?

RVP don't get booed because he played jusr for a window. Which he never did.

[Niall_Quinn]

I have to say that for me, Walcott has shown his usefulness to the club. I'm impressed with his response to challenge, and I think he has harsher critics than the likes of Song or Vermaelen have had.

He also had a far more protracted honeymoon period than those two ever had. Walcott's an average player. The only reason we can't spot that is because our standards have dropped so low. If we had a board that was in the least bit interested in this club we'd cash in on Walcott and then throw an extra £20million on the fee and get a top class striker. But we won't do that. We won't even keep Walcott, we'll cash in and keep the cash. By "we'll" I of course mean them.

[IBK]

He also had a far more protracted honeymoon period than those two ever had. Walcott's an average player. The only reason we can't spot that is because our standards have dropped so low. If we had a board that was in the least bit interested in this club we'd cash in on Walcott and then throw an extra £20million on the fee and get a top class striker. But we won't do that. We won't even keep Walcott, we'll cash in and keep the cash. By "we'll" I of course mean them.

True re the honeymoon period - but that's not how it works, is it? RVP was mollycoddled through injuries by us for years, but then skipped as soon as he'd put in a single fit season. For anyone but football fans (and certain managers trading off success in the distant past), all there is is the now. Walcott isn't the best player in the world - but lately he's done a job for us, and an effective one at that. He was 13th in the league in goals and assists last season - by a long chalk the next best in our team after RVP. This season he has 5 goals and 4 assists in the PL. But more importantly, he seems to form good partnerships - with RVP last season and with Cazorla this. We don't have many really quick players - and he would be a loss.

The problem, as you correctly point out is that he won't be replaced with better if he goes. Even if he were to be replaced 'like for like', the transfer fee plus the new players wages are likely to be on a par with what Walcott wants.

Truth is, I'm not sure that we are in a position as a team any longer to claim to be ambivalent about the loss of a player of even Walcott's quality.

[SayNoMore]

Need THEO to sign badly, if he goes we have literally zero pace in our team.

SIGN DA TING

[Power n Glory]

True re the honeymoon period - but that's not how it works, is it? RVP was mollycoddled through injuries by us for years, but then skipped as soon as he'd put in a single fit season. For anyone but football fans (and certain managers trading off success in the distant past), all there is is the now. Walcott isn't the best player in the world - but lately he's done a job for us, and an effective one at that. He was 13th in the league in goals and assists last season - by a long chalk the next best in our team after RVP. This season he has 5 goals and 4 assists in the PL. But more importantly, he seems to form good partnerships - with RVP last season and with Cazorla this. We don't have many really quick players - and he would be a loss.

The problem, as you correctly point out is that he won't be replaced with better if he goes. Even if he were to be replaced 'like for like', the transfer fee plus the new players wages are likely to be on a par with what Walcott wants.

Truth is, I'm not sure that we are in a position as a team any longer to claim to be ambivalent about the loss of a player of even Walcott's quality.

:gp:

[Injury Time]

:ilt:

[Power n Glory]

Two minutes before half-time, Theo Walcott received the ball with his back to goal. In close attendance and breathing right down his neck was Reading’s imposing centre-back, Kasper Gorkss. He bumped Walcott once. No response. He tried to bump him again but this time, Walcott was too swift and he quickly spun away from Gorkss and spread the ball wide. The move was only a minor moment in the grand act that was Theo Walcott getting his chance up front but if Arsene Wenger did have one reservation about using him in that position; it was Walcott’s ability to hold the ball up. He was reassured here.

The deployment of Theo Walcott centrally has been a long time coming. Some may read it as a bargaining act to persuade Walcott to sign a new contract with the club but Wenger says he had seen enough in training to convince him it was the right move. Not only that though, he had seen enough in the recent games to suggest that Walcott was the type of striker, in theory, Arsenal needed.

Gervinho had his chance to stake his claim in the humiliating penalty shoot-out defeat to Bradford City but fluffed his lines in front of goal while Arsenal’s performance in the 2-0 win ove rWest Brom was impressive; they still had to earn their goals through penalties. Wenger wanted to build on what was good in that game and as such, the decision to use Walcott as a number 9 against Reading was emblematic of his team’s philosophy. They would play their game – “focus on the quality of our football,” was Wenger’s comments after the 5-2 win. “The game is based on movement and technical quality and that demands freedom of initiative.”

As such, Walcott was as much a decoy as the player who would get onto the end of passes. Because behind him, was a quintet of technical excellence, five players who would move the ball about and revel in the space Walcott created by playing as high up the pitch as possible. Indeed, Walcott’s movement was excellent, always on his toes and looking to spin past his marker. He got behind on numerous occasions too, thriving on the chance to use his pace.

Of course,Reading’s approach also helped play into Arsenal’s hands. They started well, looking to engage Arsenal’s centre-backs by using two strikers – just as Bradford did to much success – and looking to commit midfielders beyond. For the first 10 minutes, it caused Arsenal’s backline a bit of problem and indeed, Reading should have scored when Pavel Pogrebnyak got through but decided to square it instead. But there was a flipside and Reading manager, Brian McDermott, can be accused of being a little naïve here. His 4-4-2 never really pressed Arsenal – and they couldn’t such was Arsenal’s fluency – but nor did they look to defend deep. They did a mixture and neither at times, lending to a disorganised display.

That’s not to take anything away from Arsenal who were brilliant apart from a ten minute spell halfway through the second-half where they conceded two goals. The decision not to start Olivier Giroud was almost symbolic because it meant Arsenal wouldn’t be tempted to hit the ball long without being penetrative. Instead, they were forced to focus on a technical game which wasn’t always accurate – which is where Giroud may have benefited the team due to his ability to protect the ball and as such, the team attempted a number of unsuccessful through-balls for Walcott. Wenger didn’t mind that much as long as it remained with them in the middle of the pitch, where they could work their opponents around. (In the first fifteen minutes, when passes between the midfield in particularly went astray, he couldn’t stay on his seat, moaning constantly to his assistant, Steve Bould). Arsenal’s fourth goal was a perfect illustration of the plan working exactly as Wenger would have intended it to, The Gunners shifting the ball from left to right and then back again and with four left footed passes, the ball was in the back of the net, the final one being the tap-in by Santi Cazorla (who completed his hat-trick).

Cazorla was magnificent last night and as Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain mentioned, the team has “been working on getting him and Jack [Wilshere] in behind the lines, between the defence and the midfield and picking up little pockets of space”. That was achieved, as mentioned earlier, by Walcott stretching play horizontally but also, by the wide men who started high up the pitch at beginning of the build up, then roamed infield when the ball was played forwards and the full-backs supported. Mikel Arteta was the reference point to build attacks around, allowing Wilshere in particular, to push forward and Cazorla to roam. The number of men Arsenal could get into the box was a reflection of Arsenal’s positive approach and paradoxically, it may seem, it helped their crossing game because the pass and move allowed the midfielders to burst into the box naturally.

When Theo Walcott scored the fifth, it was the fitting ending. Vindication of the decision to finally start him up front but for Wenger, it was also vindication of keeping faith, when others doubted, in his way of playing.

A good piece from Arseblog.

http://arseblog.com/2012/12/tactics-column-theo-walcott-selection-epitomises-arsenals-philosophy/

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

‏@TotallyArsenal
Theo Walcott (31.3%) has the best Goal-per-shot percentage in the Premier League this season. Lukas Podolski is third with 29.4%.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

‏@TotallyArsenal
Theo Walcott (31.3%) has the best Goal-per-shot percentage in the Premier League this season. Lukas Podolski is third with 29.4%.

I remember one season in the NBA when Shaq had a 100% 3 point shooting rate.

He had only attempted and sunk one 3 pointer all sesson :lol:

Stats :haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I remember one season in the NBA when Shaq had a 100% 3 point shooting rate.

He had only taken and sunk one 3 pointer all sesson :lol:

Stats :haha:

:gp:

Stats :haha:

Wumger loving stats :pal:

[GP]

Shaq :haha:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Shaq :haha:

As Png would say Racist :coffee:

[GP]

As Png would say Racist :coffee:

Png :lol:

Alwful player of the race card

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Shaq :haha:

Alwful rapper.

[GP]

Alwful rapper.

He was, however, the star of one of the best video games ever.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Png :lol:

Alwful player of the race card

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPVhh7TeQMJC-7uHeL6dUwHmruX-rJ28X54uAAvzomHEBJHbuG

[Özil's Panoramic View]

So what is it that's still stalling Theo? I mean, barring injuries, he has be played consistently this season and has been given a few games as the centre striker. He has also been allowed to take all our corners (ahead of Santi and Mikel who both deliver better corners), even though his ability to do such leaves much to be desired.

Seems like Wenger has bent over to all his demands barring one.

[GP]

So what is it that's still stalling Theo? I mean, barring injuries, he has be played consistently this season and has been given a few games as the centre striker. He has also been allowed to take all our corners (ahead of Santi and Mikel who both deliver better corners), even though his ability to do such leaves much to be desired.

Seems like Wenger has bent over to all his demands barring one.

It's obviously about money. Always has been.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

So what is it that's still stalling Theo? I mean, barring injuries, he has be played consistently this season and has been given a few games as the centre striker. He has also been allowed to take all our corners (ahead of Santi and Mikel who both deliver better corners), even though his ability to do such leaves much to be desired.

Seems like Wenger has bent over to all his demands barring one.

Put it this way, the club said they'd offer him 120K a week, he'd sign up fast. Funny how Jack and the others were able to sign up deals quick.

All this it takes time stuff, is wearing Thin.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

JACK WILSHERE will sing the same old tune to Theo Walcott — urging him not to quit Arsenal’s boy band. The England ace committed his long-term future to the club in midweek along with four other young Gunners.

And now the midfielder wants Walcott to end his contract stand-off with the club and keep the Gunners’ own version of teen idols One Direction together for several more years.
Wilshere, who will be 21 on New Year’s Day, said: “Everybody at the club wants Theo to re-sign. I’m always winding him up, saying ‘C’mon Theo, sign’.
“But that is something he has got to sort out. It is up to him and the club to reach an agreement and I hope they do.
“Theo’s been great for us and he knows what he means to us and the fans. Five of us British boys have just signed so hopefully he can be the sixth and cap it off.” Wilshere reckons the fact he along with Kieran Gibbs, 23, Aaron Ramsey, 22 on Boxing Day, Carl Jenkinson, 20, and teenager Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain all penned new deals will spur Walcott to re-signing. He added: “I think Theo looked at that.
“We’re all great friends, the British boys. We all go out together, have meals together and we all sit together when we’re on the road.
“It was nice to sign a new contract. It’s a great club. It’s like home, my friends and family are down the road. I’ve shown commitment to the club and they’ve shown commitment to me. We have a good thing going on.”
Apart from wanting more than the £75,000-a-week deal that is on offer, Walcott is looking for assurances from Arsene Wenger that he will be allowed to develop into a centre-forward. The Gunners boss once again deployed Walcott in the forward role he craves at Wigan on Saturday.
But unlike his display in the 5-2 thrashing of Reading, the England star did little to suggest his future is there. Often isolated from the rest of his team — and particularly fellow striker Lukas Podolski — Walcott lacked the physical presence to cause Wigan’s centre-backs too many problems. Significantly, it was when he darted into the area from his usual wider position that he forced the vital 59th-minute foul in the box by Jean Beausejour.
Mikel Arteta calmly slotted home the spot-kick to make it three wins in a row for Wenger’s side and boost their Champions League qualification hopes.
Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain were also denied by fine saves from Ali Al-Habsi but Arsenal will know they escaped with a lucky win.
Arouna Kone missed a first-half sitter and Wojciech Szczesny protected the lead with a couple of fine saves from Kone and Maynor Figueroa.
And Wigan boss Roberto Martinez was fuming that Gibbs’s late hand-ball from sub Jordi Gomez’s drive did not bring a penalty.
So a classic 1-0 to the Arsenal in lashing conditions in the North-West that have seen Wenger’s men come a cropper in the past. Wilshere admitted: “It wasn’t our prettiest performance but we got the result.
“We showed great character and we know we can come to places like this and dig out results.”
Wilshere also erased any lingering doubts about his readiness for a crunching challenge having only returned to action at the end of October after missing 14 months with ankle problems.
One no-holds-barred tackle on Shaun Maloney wrongly earned him a yellow card from ref Jon Moss and he was on the receiving end of several meaty exchanges.
Wilshere added: “It is a good feeling when you do a good tackle and you get rewarded for it. I had that feeling — but then the ref booked me!”
Wenger said: “It looked a perfect tackle. I think the ref was a bit provoked by the crowd reaction. I like Wilshere — after 25 minutes you look at him and he is dirty from top to bottom.”
There is no doubting Wilshere’s commitment to the Arsenal — now he just wants Walcott to sing from the same songsheet.



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4711972/Theo-Walcott-contract-Jack-Wilshere-urges-pal-to-sign.html#ixzz2FviG0Kc3

Jack :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Apart from wanting more than the £75,000-a-week deal that is on offer, Walcott is looking for assurances from Arsene Wenger that he will be allowed to develop into a centre-forward. The Gunners boss once again deployed Walcott in the forward role he craves at Wigan on Saturday.
But unlike his display in the 5-2 thrashing of Reading, the England star did little to suggest his future is there. Often isolated from the rest of his team — and particularly fellow striker Lukas Podolski — Walcott lacked the physical presence to cause Wigan’s centre-backs too many problems. Significantly, it was when he darted into the area from his usual wider position that he forced the vital 59th-minute foul in the box by Jean Beausejour. Like i said

Also the rest is such pure BS tbh

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has revealed Theo Walcott is taking advice on adapting to a striking role from Thierry Henry.

The 23-year-old has featured in a central role for Arsenal in recent weeks and has publicly voiced his desire to be considered as a striker under Wenger on a number of occasions.

Henry has been training with his former club during the MLS off-season and Wenger believes the Frenchman's presence could benefit Walcott's development as a forward.

“He will learn something in his position and I am confident he will do well in that position. It's a bit early to compare him to Thierry Henry.

“Yes [Henry] gives him advice. It's always important. Theo is a very intelligent boy. He understands very quickly when you tell him something and that's why I think he can do very well in this position.”

Walcott's future Arsenal is in doubt with just six months left to run on his current deal, and the England international's desire to become the club’s focal attacking point is believed to be one of the stumbling points in negotiations.

Despite the delay in signing a new deal, Wenger admits he has been buoyed by Walcott's performances as a striker but insists he may still be needed as a winger.

“I like the signs that I have seen,” Wenger told the club’s official website. “If you look at my statements, I always said that one day he would play through the middle and it grew in his brain.

“He is now 23. I decided to play Thierry Henry at 23 through the middle because you have to learn a lot before. The fact that you play in other positions as well helps your technique.

“On the wing you need a shorter technique against the line. Once you [then] play in the middle you can go on both sides.

“From [the ages of] 19 to 23, Theo has learnt a lot. Now we will sometimes play him on the flanks and sometimes through the middle. I like what I have seen through the middle.

“He has played two games [through the middle] and you have to be open-minded in our job and give people a chance. If they take it, it's good. If [not], he will still be a fantastic winger so it puts some more assets in his game.

Theo :bow:

Hope he stays and beats Henrys record

[Injury Time]

Will give him one last wave as an Arsenal player today :fingers: then no doubt he will become Theo Walcཔnt

[GP]

Theo can go Play for NY Red Bulls if he wants.

If he's insisting on playing as a striker, that's probably his level.

[Cripps_orig]

Will give him one last wave as an Arsenal player today :fingers: then no doubt he will become Theo Walcཔnt

You're going to the match today? :pal:


oh :(

[Joker]

Most people can see that Walcott has all the right attributes needed to be a top quality striker. Wenger really should have tried him up front earlier in his career (perhaps from 09/10 onwards), he's at an age now when he should now exactly what his best position is. He's probably thinking that the move to Arsenal hasn't been great for his career as a whole, and the way Wenger's used him has been somewhat detrimental to his personal development. I wouldn't blame him if he left, while some fans think he "owes" Wenger and the club because we pay him a weekly wage, in reality Wenger should apologise to him for stunting his development.

[Injury Time]

You're going to the match today? :pal:


oh :(
My turn to get the beers in yeah :cheers: ;)

[Cripps_orig]

My turn to get the beers in yeah :cheers: ;)

Unfortunately or fortunately in my case, i'm not going now :dance:

[Injury Time]

Most people can see that Walcott has all the right attributes needed to be a top quality striker. Wenger really should have tried him up front earlier in his career (perhaps from 09/10 onwards), he's at an age now when he should now exactly what his best position is. He's probably thinking that the move to Arsenal hasn't been great for his career as a whole, and the way Wenger's used him has been somewhat detrimental to his personal development. I wouldn't blame him if he left, while some fans think he "owes" Wenger and the club because we pay him a weekly wage, in reality Wenger should apologise to him for stunting his development.
D- WUM Rating
The drivel is strong with this one :rolleyes:

[GP]

:lol: true

[Injury Time]

Unfortunately or fortunately in my case, i'm not going now :dance:
Stood up again :threaten: :crying: :threaten:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Most people can see that Walcott has all the right attributes needed to be a top quality striker. Wenger really should have tried him up front earlier in his career (perhaps from 09/10 onwards), he's at an age now when he should now exactly what his best position is. He's probably thinking that the move to Arsenal hasn't been great for his career as a whole, and the way Wenger's used him has been somewhat detrimental to his personal development. I wouldn't blame him if he left, while some fans think he "owes" Wenger and the club because we pay him a weekly wage, in reality Wenger should apologise to him for stunting his development.


surprised you're not blaming arseblog :coffee:

[BlindFaith_8]

I reckon his advisors, they want him on par with the 100K players, I personally think he's not worth more than what we have already offered him. Still think he's a sprinter with no real football talent.

[Cripps_orig]

The past few games has proven you wrong tbh

[AKBapologist]

Easily worth 200k a week. :coffee:

Who needs a footballing brain? :bow:

[Cripps_orig]

Apparently not a striker :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

You have to give it to him, whether he's playing for a move or not, he's certainly shown he's got enough about him to be the player we all want him to be.

Now just sign that contract. :(

[Boss]

Sign da ting you hoeee.

[Master Splinter]

Arsenal striker Theo Walcott: "The team showed great quality and belief. It's great for the fans and was great to be part of it.

He's talking like WUMger. He's definitely signing now.

[AKBapologist]

Premier League Assists - 7 Mata & Rooney, 6 Walcott, Podolski, Hazard & Van Persie.

14 goals in 20 games. 4 in the last 3, +winning a penality in a tight game. Who needs consistancy??

:bow:

[LDG]

I wonder how much he wants to be paid.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

He's talking like WUMger. He's definitely signing now.

To me it's like he's saying "It's great for the fans and was great to be part of it, as I'm off in Jan"

[Injury Time]

To me it's like he's saying "It's great for the fans and was great to be part of it, as I'm off in Jan"
This, only need to look at his celebration for the first vrs Ox, although what was that dance with Podolski (I think) anyone got that clip? :lol:

[Syn]

Think it was with Gibbs. And it was beta as fuck.

[Injury Time]

Think it was with Gibbs. And it was beta as fuck.

I found the clip>>>> :handbags:

[Marc Overmars]

Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker

Magnificent from Walcott. Time for Arsenal to do what they have to do to keep him or resign themselves to being a feeder club.

Not often I take this guy seriously but I think he's right here.

[-Xs-]

He's gone, to Manu I reckon

[selassie]

He's gone, to Manu I reckon

I think he's off to. It's the final straw for me and I don't think the board will get away with it anymore, bunch of ****s letting our best players walk every season.

[-Xs-]

Everyone always talks about his consistency, but for the last couple of seasons he has been one of our top performers (consistently enough) to merit being one of the top earners at the club. Is he worth 80k+ a week? Probably not, very few are, but he'd probably earn that at any of the other top 3 clubs because he can win games. He can be frustrating, but I watch him and he reminds me so much of Henry, it would be a great loss to our club IMHO if we sell him with his best years still to come.

[Arsenal Fan]

I can't see the problem with offering him top dollar. It's my understanding that the board are tough and won't be bullied by players but letting a top top player like theo go as a free agent is disgusting business.

We can afford to pay him whatever if we're not paying 20£m for him... And if he wants out we can sell.
I just don't understand the boards business thinking here.

Is a disgrace we let r **** persie and nasri to 1 year of their contract. This shit doesn't happen at united.

[Kano]

Everyone always talks about his consistency, but for the last couple of seasons he has been one of our top performers (consistently enough) to merit being one of the top earners at the club. Is he worth 80k+ a week? Probably not, very few are, but he'd probably earn that at any of the other top 3 clubs because he can win games. He can be frustrating, but I watch him and he reminds me so much of Henry, it would be a great loss to our club IMHO if we sell him with his best years still to come.
it's lazy perceptions that have been stuck with him for a long time, even though, alongside RVP, he was our most important attacker last season. we saw glimpses of it yesterday when he misplaced that pass to cazorla on the break, huge groans reminiscent of those of years gone by toward him. the boy is 22/23 and far from the finished article. over the next couple of seasons, no matter where he is, we will really see him develop into a player. reading th14's biog at the moment reminds you of the stages of development he went through and just how raw he was as a forward in 99 - i distinctly remember he used to miss so many one-on-one's that would drive highbury nuts - but then look what happened to him.

[Ernesto]

Until he puts pen to paper, I'm not going to crow over him, sing his name or even plead with Wenger to 'sign him up'. For all the nonsense AW has come out with in the last 3 or 4 years, that one small recent comment still holds true. These young players have taken so far from Arsenal. They've given nothing. I don't even mean trophies. Signing a new contract is the way to show you're committed, to prove you're a fan, to demonstrate that for all the badge-kissing in the world, therein lies a dedicated player.

It's time for Theo to buck the trend. Show the likes of Nasri, Fabregas, Song and van Persie what it's like to be a hero at one club rather than a mercenary, surplus to requirements at another. However, we've had our fingers burnt one too many times with other players. I'm not going to wait with baited breath for any news, be it positive or negative.

[Grebbo]

He's going to leave isn't he?!

:haha:

We are such a bullshit club.

There is no possible reason why he wouldn't sign his contract now unless he is leaving in the summer. We're playing him up front and will offer him £90k pw (Jack's on £80k pw so £90k for Feo seems 'reasonable')

He's fucking gone.

:haha:

[Newguy]

He's going to leave isn't he?!

:haha:

We are such a bullshit club.

There is no possible reason why he wouldn't sign his contract now unless he is leaving in the summer. We're playing him up front and will offer him £90k pw (Jack's on £80k pw so £90k for Feo seems 'reasonable')

He's fucking gone.

:haha:

Yea I think we may have lost Theo already (this wasnt my thought a few weeks back) during the post interview he said that the win was good for "Arsenal" he realised this then went back to his usual "we" talk, but i think it was a slip.

The ball is in his court and he had made his shop window look really nice for the new year now. I think Wenger has possibly fucked this one up again.

I think hes off.

Nasri, RvC now possibly Walcott....it's ridiculous that our first team starters are allowed to get to the last year in their contract.

I never thought RvC would leave, but he wanted to win trophies at any cost and he may do so at man united but he also said the year before that if he did leave and won something elsewhere that it wouldn't be the same.

Theo has time so i hope he signs but Im not optimistic.

[Maestro]

Interested to know opinions on here, if you were Theo ..why would you stay and sign on?

[Cripps_orig]

If he stays, he will become imo a club legend. Staying when all others have left. He will become an even bigger fan favourite than he is now. Has all the makings to become one of our best ever. Maybe not quite at Bergkamps level but surely Henry level which isnt a bad level at all.

We have a core of British players signed up to long term contracts. He is the best of the lot so if he signs and this team grows together, he can be the leader of something special.

We have Wenger

Hes gone

[GP]

Interested to know opinions on here, if you were Theo ..why would you stay and sign on?

Because we are Arsenal FC ffs.

Not many clubs are bigger, and certainly none where he's going to be 1st team.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

If he stays, he will become imo a club legend. Staying when all others have left. He will become an even bigger fan favourite than he is now. Has all the makings to become one of our best ever. Maybe not quite at Bergkamps level but surely Henry level which isnt a bad level at all.

We have a core of British players signed up to long term contracts. He is the best of the lot so if he signs and this team grows together, he can be the leader of something special.

We have Wenger

Hes gone

Pisses me off how you can always be so bloody right.

A week ago I laughed at you saying Theo is the best of our British contingent....

Just fuck off, man.












:haha:

[hobson's choice]

Theo leaving would be the dumb for him, other than Liverpool, where else is he gonna start up front as a striker

[LDG]

Theo leaving would be the dumb for him, other than Liverpool, where else is he gonna start up front as a striker

Maybe he doesn't care about that! :faint:

Playing up top for us obviously hasn't swayed hin.

He'll go elsewhere, be paid what he wants and bench it or play
wing footy.

[hobson's choice]

Maybe he doesn't care about that! :faint:

Playing up top for us obviously hasn't swayed hin.

He'll go elsewhere, be paid what he wants and bench it or play
wing footy.

Honestly I really don't give a flying fuck about Theo or any of these current players

[LDG]

Me niether. Just pisses me off that all anyone guves a fuck about is money.

No loyalty left :(

[Syn]

Wouldn't mind a swap - Theo for Suarez. If we were managed by Pardiola it would happen because he is championship manager alpha as fuck.

[Marc Overmars]

Me niether. Just pisses me off that all anyone guves a fuck about is money.

No loyalty left :(

Football. :lol:

Awful sport.

[Power n Glory]

Me niether. Just pisses me off that all anyone guves a fuck about is money.

No loyalty left :(

Where do you work and would that line from your boss work on you? :lol:

[Grebbo]

Me niether. Just pisses me off that all anyone guves a fuck about is money.

No loyalty left :(

No players are loyal otherwise they'd never move clubs and nobody would sign anyone.

Theo's been loyal to us. If Arsenal were loyal to him we'd have offered him a new deal two seasons ago when he was shit. We didn't because he was shit, but now he's come good. You win some you lose some.

We're only going to get our best players to be loyal when we start challenging for the league. Why would Walcott sign a new deal with us when we're unlikely to win anything during that new deal??

[GP]

A deal has been on the table for 18 months. He's just refused to sign it.

[Grebbo]

A deal has been on the table for 18 months. He's just refused to sign it.

We should've put him up for sale then. He'd have soon signed when the only club willing to spend money on him was Stoke.

You can't keep on letting players run their contracts down because they all leave!

[GP]

We should've put him up for sale then. He'd have soon signed when the only club willing to spend money on him was Stoke.

You can't keep on letting players run their contracts down because they all leave!

So, you're saying the way to stop them leaving is to sell them?

Alright...

[Grebbo]

So, you're saying the way to stop them leaving is to sell them?

Alright...

No, read it again.

[GP]

It still doesn't make sense. If he wants to leave, he'll leave. If he has to run down his contract, that's what he'll do.

[Grebbo]

It still doesn't make sense. If he wants to leave, he'll leave. If he has to run down his contract, that's what he'll do.

It makes perfect sense. The only way to keep our best players is by offering them big contracts when they're crap and no other top team will touch them with yours. "Sign this £80k pw deal Theo or we're selling you to Stoke next week who'll pay you £30k pw".

It's the only way an unsuccessful club like ours can keep their best players.

We've just done it with the Brit pack. The risk is Ramsey, Gibbs etc never improve. The alternative is what's happened with Theo happening with someone like Ramsey eg we didn't get him to re-sign and he suddenly rediscovers how to play football.

[GP]

It makes perfect sense. The only way to keep our best players is by offering them big contracts when they're crap and no other top team will touch them with yours. "Sign this £80k pw deal Theo or we're selling you to Stoke next week who'll pay you £30k pw".

:lol: You can't force anyone to sign for another club either. How are you going to sell him to Stoke if he doesn't wanna go there? Silly.

[Newguy]

QUOTE=Maestro;238937]Interested to know opinions on here, if you were Theo ..why would you stay and sign on?[/QUOTE]

Basically the same as what cripps said....

5 of the British lads have signed up for long term (so that's basically at least another 3 years). If I were Theo id be thinking Im about to be a leader of one of the top clubs in the world. If I were him id be thinking I can be a legend here, im starting every game, the fans will love me. ...whats not to like??

He said its not about the money. ..it obviously is as he would have signed by now.

Out of the five, imo, Jack and Jenkinson are the ones that love the club and they show it in their performances. I think theo should show his commitment to the club and he'll get his chance to cement his place upfront, we've seen how easy it is to get contracts signed up so ge just needs to sign.

We need a group of players to decide that they want to achieve something together and win the furst trophy for the club in almost a decade. 5 have at least decided to start, no one knows if it will be achievable but if it happens it wont be forgotten....If I were him I'd want to be a part of that.

[Grebbo]

:lol: You can't force anyone to sign for another club either. How are you going to sell him to Stoke if he doesn't wanna go there? Silly.

You don't play him. Join Stoke, sign a new contract or don't get in the squad for the remaining two years of your contract. He'd soon sign, Wenger tried to force him to sign by not playing him this season but it doesn't really work when the player can sign a pre-contract in January.

:doh:

[GP]

You don't play him. Join Stoke, sign a new contract or don't get in the squad for the remaining two years of your contract. He'd soon sign, Wenger tried to force him to sign by not playing him this season but it doesn't really work when the player can sign a pre-contract in January.

:doh:

That will never happen anywhere.

[Grebbo]

That will never happen anywhere.

The alternative is for us to lose our best player every season.

[Syn]

Tbh Grebbo is right.