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Cripps_orig
04-12-2012, 09:09 PM
No he is not.Who were you before you changed your name?

Maestro
04-12-2012, 09:10 PM
We can't compete with the teams from Greece what with all the money they have.


:haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:11 PM
What a chance for Djebbour!

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:11 PM
Should be 2-1.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:11 PM
should've been 2-1 to oly :lol:

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:13 PM
I think the team is a bit tired and maybe lacks a little bit of sharpness.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
2-1 Olympiakos.

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
:haha:

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
Arsenal :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
2-1!!!! Fantastic goal

Wenger :lol:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
2-1 Olympiakos.

Good goal tbh.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
I think the team is a bit tired and maybe lacks a little bit of sharpness.

:haha:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
2-1!!!! Fantastic goal

Wenger :lol:

meh its not like we needed to win.

Injury Time
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
Normal service resumed.

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:14 PM
Great comber, mind.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:15 PM
Red is the colour, Wenger is the name
He is a a loser and losing is our game!

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:15 PM
Hope we get Barca in the next round.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:15 PM
We have great spirit! :haha:

Globalgunner
04-12-2012, 09:16 PM
As forrest Gump wisely put it "Stupid is as stupid does"

Cripps_orig
04-12-2012, 09:16 PM
We are terrible :haha:

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:16 PM
meh its not like we needed to win.
True, it's not like we're fighting for the 7th place major trophy, this is just a cup for our kids.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:16 PM
Hope we get Barca in the next round.
Yeah, that should be funny :lol:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:16 PM
We have great spirit! :haha:

Worst thing about it, its the best we have played in a while :lol:

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:16 PM
Look at wenger throwing up his arms, that's all he ever does :lol:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:17 PM
We are terrible :haha:

Shitmack should start the next game :haha:

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:18 PM
Look at wenger throwing up his arms, that's all he ever does :lol:
He's planning for his future, penguin impersonator in the arctic....sadly that doesn't pay 7 million a year.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:18 PM
Gervinho. :rolleyes:

Injury Time
04-12-2012, 09:18 PM
Time to get one of our top top quality signings off the bench to mix things up....

hold on a sec.....


just checking.....


we seem to have sent the YTS boys on a school bench trip :ilt:

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:18 PM
He's planning for his future, penguin impersonator in the arctic....sadly that doesn't pay 7 million a year.

Fucking looney!

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:18 PM
Oh look, Gervais legs it and ends up falling over. Shocker.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
True, it's not like we're fighting for the 7th place major trophy, this is just a cup for our kids.

10th Place trophy.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
True, it's not like we're fighting for the 7th place major trophy, this is just a cup for our kids.

:blink:

Injury Time
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
Arsenes jacket, is it padded with cash to keep him warm?

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
we seem to have sent the YTS boys on a school bench trip :ilt:
That's doesn't matter if you believe in the quality of our game.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:19 PM
Oh look, Gervais legs it and ends up falling over. Shocker.

He's so funny to watch! :haha:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:20 PM
Time to get one of our top top quality signings off the bench to mix things up....

hold on a sec.....


just checking.....


we seem to have sent the YTS boys on a school bench trip :ilt:

:haha:

Ralpheroo72
04-12-2012, 09:20 PM
This club saps the life out of you. They dont give and fuck, and now, neither do I. Fuck em all!

Xhaka Can’t
04-12-2012, 09:20 PM
I said before this was a lose/lose match and sure enough we managed to lose it.

At what stage does someone, anyone, take charge and end this?

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:21 PM
This club saps the life out of you. They dont give and fuck, and now, neither do I. Fuck em all!

They're making me go a bit mad tbh :lol:

Xhaka Can’t
04-12-2012, 09:21 PM
This club saps the life out of you. They dont give and fuck, and now, neither do I. Fuck em all!

Problem is, you do give a fuck and will continue to do so.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:22 PM
Problem is, you do give a fuck and will continue to do so.

:gp:

:(

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:22 PM
They've got a 36 year old on to run rings around us. :lol:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:24 PM
I said before this was a lose/lose match and sure enough we managed to lose it.

At what stage does someone, anyone, take charge and end this?

Problem is, with the full sqaud, we'd have bottled it, so its not a shock with this sqaud it has not gone well. Saying that thought we played quite well today, best i have seen us in a while.

Winning is good for the confidence even if losing is not a big deal in this cup.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:24 PM
Meade off, Angha on.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:25 PM
If it's not Gervinho, it will be Ramsey.

KSE Comedy Club
04-12-2012, 09:25 PM
meh its not like we needed to win.

Yes it is.

That what winners do.

Unfortunately we're just losers aiming for the 4th place trophy every season.

Power n Glory
04-12-2012, 09:25 PM
Couldn't give a shit anymore. I have 9% left on my Sky box and need to watch some shows. Entertainment. Fuck wasting time with this shit. I have eps of Boardwalk Empire and a House of Lies to watch!

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:25 PM
Meade off, Angha on.

Who, Who lol's.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:26 PM
Are there any Chelsea fans that would like to swap teams with us, we'll have their players they can have ours.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:26 PM
Yes it is.

That what winners do.

Unfortunately we're jut losers aiming for the 4th place trophy every season.

I meant in the group.

KSE Comedy Club
04-12-2012, 09:27 PM
Couldn't give a shit anymore. I have 9% left on my Sky box and need to watch some shows. Entertainment. Fuck wasting time with this shit. I have eps of Boardwalk Empire and a House of Lies to watch!

I made that decision weeks ago and I feel better for it. I look at the results every week but tbh, I just don't give a fuck anymore.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:28 PM
I meant in the group.
:blink:

KSE Comedy Club
04-12-2012, 09:28 PM
I meant in the group.
I know what you meant mate.

Trouble is, as long as we stay on this path with that attitude, were never gonna win fuck all

Ralpheroo72
04-12-2012, 09:28 PM
I dunno Lloyd, the French are assholes....


Problem is, you do give a fuck and will continue to do so.

Cripps_orig
04-12-2012, 09:28 PM
Shitmack should start the next game :haha:Who are you?

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:29 PM
:blink:

What diffrence does it make if the germans win, we still finsish 2nd. Finish 1st or 2nd makes no diffrence, all teams are good.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:29 PM
We lost the moment we let them equalise.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:29 PM
I made that decision weeks ago and I feel better for it. I look at the results every week but tbh, I just don't give a fuck anymore.
Who does to be honest, boring dogshite football, defeats left right and center and no hunger on the pitch.

Defeat doesn't hurt anymore, it's happens so often I half expect it. I can laugh at it now....that's how far we've fallen.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:30 PM
I know what you meant mate.

Trouble is, as long as we stay on this path with that attitude, were never gonna win fuck all

True i guess.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:30 PM
What diffrence does it make if the germans win, we still finsish 2nd. Finish 1st or 2nd makes no diffrence, all teams are good.
Yes but his point that regardless of where you are what winners do is win even when they don't need to.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:30 PM
Who does to be honest, boring dogshite football, defeats left right and center and no hunger on the pitch.

Defeat doesn't hurt anymore, it's happens so often I half expect it. I can laugh at it now....that's how far we've fallen.

I've said it before and will now say it again: You can either laugh or cry and I chose to laugh. :lol:

KSE Comedy Club
04-12-2012, 09:30 PM
What diffrence does it make if the germans win, we still finsish 2nd. Finish 1st or 2nd makes no diffrence, all teams are good.

Thanks arsene :good:

I feel better already.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:31 PM
Who are you?

Has not done alot tonight, not sure why that should mean an auto starting spot vs West brom.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:31 PM
Gervinho :haha:

what a shit jugler :lol: he's no letters.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:32 PM
Yes but his point that regardless of where you are what winners do is win even when they don't need to.

No its about winning the thing. Im sure Chelsea fans never gave a shit they lost in the group stage, once they won the thing.

KSE Comedy Club
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
Who does to be honest, boring dogshite football, defeats left right and center and no hunger on the pitch.

Defeat doesn't hurt anymore, it's happens so often I half expect it. I can laugh at it now....that's how far we've fallen.

Yep.

The loosing wouldn't piss people off as much if the team showed some fight and the manager bought in some quality to strengthen it when he has the opportunity to.

But it never happens, and on we go down the table.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
2-1 FT. Another defeat.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
Thanks arsene :good:

I feel better already.

:good:

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
It's over. :woohoo:

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
:haha:

What shite!

LDG
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
My word.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:33 PM
It's over. :woohoo:

:gp:

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:34 PM
My word.

:ilt:

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:34 PM
No its about winning the thing. Im sure Chelsea fans never gave a shit they lost in the group stage, once they won the thing.
You really don't get it do you?

When you lose games confidence takes a knock and before you know it you're losing more games.

You won't win the competition with that kind of attitude, maybe that's the problem....we're small time now and just accept mediocrity.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:35 PM
They just went through the team in Wenger's first CL game with us, made me realise even more how dogshite we are......not one of our players would be anywhere near that team.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:35 PM
You really don't get it do you?

When you lose games confidence takes a knock and before you know it you're losing more games.

You won't win the competition with that kind of attitude, maybe that's the problem....we're small time now and just accept mediocrity.

Well its done all you can do is move on to the next one. We were never going there to go an win anyone who thought otherwise is deluded. It was always what it was a bit of fun for the kids.

I said earlier in the day, we needed to win for confidence, but as far as finish 1st or 2nd made no diffrence to who we draw anyways.

Power n Glory
04-12-2012, 09:37 PM
I made that decision weeks ago and I feel better for it. I look at the results every week but tbh, I just don't give a fuck anymore.

Plus I have Far Cry 3 to play!

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:37 PM
They just went through the team in Wenger's first CL game with us, made me realise even more how dogshite we are......not one of our players would be anywhere near that team.

I don't really care for that given they went out in the group stage.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:37 PM
Well its done all you can do is move on to the next one. We were never going there to go an win anyone who thought otherwise is deluded. It was always what it was a bit of fun for the kids.
Ok then, that's good let's write off next season and the season after.....oh why not write off the next 10 years, we're never going to win so why bother, let's just sell our best players make a quick buck and make sure we milk the fans for everything they've got.

Marc Overmars
04-12-2012, 09:38 PM
Barca or Dortmund next please. :pray:

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:38 PM
I don't really care for that given they went out in the group stage.
Dare I say it, it was actually more enjoyable though, think there were two group stages then as well (it was a lot harder to win in that sense).

This sh*t is depressing, we don't deserve to be in the next round, we've been absolutely shite.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:39 PM
Barca or Dortmund next please. :pray:
What do you reckon.....do you think it's worth putting a bet on double figures?

Letters
04-12-2012, 09:40 PM
This sh*t is depressing, we don't deserve to be in the next round, we've been absolutely shite.
Over 6 games we've finished 2nd so yes we do.

Letters
04-12-2012, 09:40 PM
What do you reckon.....do you think it's worth putting a bet on double figures?
I don't think we'll win that convincingly.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:40 PM
Ok then, that's good let's write off next season and the season after.....oh why not write off the next 10 years, we're never going to win so why bother, let's just sell our best players make a quick buck and make sure we milk the fans for everything they've got.

Where did i say that, stop twisting words.

Winning in terms of qualifying would have been nice, but don't think its a big deal. Who ever we draw will more or less turn us over.

Winning in the sense for confidence is a diffrent thing and if you read my posts from earlier in the day, you will see i said we need to win for confidence.

RomfordPele
04-12-2012, 09:42 PM
Good to know we've got shite in depth. Well done again arsene. :good:

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 09:42 PM
Dare I say it, it was actually more enjoyable though, think there were two group stages then as well (it was a lot harder to win in that sense).

This sh*t is depressing, we don't deserve to be in the next round, we've been absolutely shite.

No just the one group stage then. Losing at home to Lens was a hoot though.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:42 PM
Over 6 games we've finished 2nd so yes we do.

Yep or have the rules changed and its measured on how you plaed ?

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:43 PM
This match doesn't even need a reaction thread. :lol:

There is nothing new to be said.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:44 PM
Over 6 games we've finished 2nd so yes we do.
This group is dogshite, we just got lucky.

Gervinho's Forehead
04-12-2012, 09:45 PM
This group is dogshite, we just got lucky.

I agree with you there, we got given the easiest group and made a dogs diner of it.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:46 PM
No just the one group stage then. Losing at home to Lens was a hoot though.
I don't care, I swap it for this sh*t any day of the week...at least it was exciting and unpredictable in those days. I totally hate what we're seeing at the moment, it's got no redeeming qualities.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:48 PM
Yep or have the rules changed and its measured on how you plaed ?
They should be to stop dogshite teams like us getting through a stage we're not really good enough to grace.

Will be fun watching us get turned over again I guess :ilt:

Still I guess Wenger will have something to be proud of once again :coffee:

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:48 PM
This group is dogshite, we just got lucky.

How the fuck did we get lucky if the group was dog shit. Not our fault the other teams were worse. If it bother's you that much don't watch the next stages then.

Even though we all know you will.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:50 PM
How the fuck did we get lucky if the group was dog shit. Not our fault the other teams were worse. If it bother's you that much don't watch the next stages then.

Even though we all know you will.
We got lucky to get a dogshite group...so yeah we were lucky.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:50 PM
They should be to stop dogshite teams like us getting through a stage we're not really good enough to grace.

Will be fun watching us get turned over again I guess :ilt:

Still I guess Wenger will have something to be proud of once again :coffee:

Stop talking Nonsense, we quailfied fair and sqaure end off, stop being bitter. Yes it was not the best result but chage the fecking record.

Who cares if the group was shite of if we were lucky. We did what we had to we got through end off.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:50 PM
We got lucky to get a dogshite group...so yeah we were lucky.

So what who cares.

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:55 PM
Stop talking Nonsense, we quailfied fair and sqaure end off, stop being bitter. Yes it was not the best result but chage the fecking record.

Who cares if the group was shite of if we were lucky. We did what we had to we got through end off.
I'd argue that we got an easy group, so I'd say it's a bit unfair on those in tough groups.

It amazes me you still seem to be supportive of this sh*t....wake the f*ck up!!!

Özim
04-12-2012, 09:55 PM
So what who cares.
I'd rather get through on merit over pot luck.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 09:59 PM
I'd rather get through on merit over pot luck.

Erm we did, we qualifed its the rules, we did it end off.

Özim
04-12-2012, 10:00 PM
Erm we did, we qualifed its the rules, we did it end off.
No it was pot luck

/thread

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 10:00 PM
I'd argue that we got an easy group, so I'd say it's a bit unfair on those in tough groups.

It amazes me you still seem to be supportive of this sh*t....wake the f*ck up!!!

What the fuck you on about we got a group we qulified what more is their to say. How is still supporting anything.

Fuck sake We won within the rules. When Uefa change the rules then you have a point.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 10:00 PM
No it was pot luck

/thread

So what we qaulifed with in the rules. pot luck or not.

Özim
04-12-2012, 10:02 PM
What the fuck you on about we got a group we qulified what more is their to say. How is still supporting anything.

Fuck sake We won within the rules. When Uefa change the rules then you have a point.
How, let's see, you seem to make excuses for everything that happens at this club maybe?

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 10:06 PM
How, let's see, you seem to make excuses for everything that happens at this club maybe?

WTF you on about, we qualfied its not making excues you plank its fact. Am i suppose to say we cheated and should not be allowed to qualify?

Yes we got lucky, But did we not qualify through the rules yes or no?

Özim
04-12-2012, 10:08 PM
WTF you on about, we qualfied its not making excues you plank its fact.
You call me a plank? Really? I suggest you look in the mirror sunshine, you make excuse after excuse about all the things that happen at the club.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 10:09 PM
You call me a plank? Really? I suggest you look in the mirror sunshine, you make excuse after excuse about all the things that happen at the club.

not sure what that has to do with us getting into round of the Cl. So me saying we qualified is making excuses yeah?

Özim
04-12-2012, 10:11 PM
not sure what that has to do with us getting into round of the Cl. So me saying we qualified is making excuses yeah?
It's not just this, is everything....you're constantly making excuses for Wenger, players etc....what will it take for you to really see how bad we are and what's going on.

What we're seeing is inexcusable.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 10:14 PM
It's not just this, is everything....you're constantly making excuses for Wenger, players etc....what will it take for you to really see how bad we are and what's going on.

What we're seeing is inexcusable.

I have said Wenger has to go, i have said the players are bad and the club is run bad so not sure what you on about.

I can see what is going on, i don;t need to say it on here every second.

PS I want to apologise for calling you a plank it was very rude and i did not mean it.

I know what you meant, we were lucky fine i agree, but what can we do, its only Uefa who can change the system.

If you meant that only Winners should get in the CL then its a diffrent matter and i agree.

Letters
04-12-2012, 10:20 PM
We got lucky to get a dogshite group...so yeah we were lucky.
Not really. We were seeded because of our record in the CL over the last 5 years (or however they did it).
So while our draw could have been worse we've earned a decent seeding.
And within that group we've done enough to qualify and in the games I've seen we haven't been lucky, we've deserved to go through.

McNamara That Ghost...
04-12-2012, 10:24 PM
And even if we were 'lucky' it doesn't really add much to a discussion given you could just say we were 'unlucky' to draw Sunderland away in the FA Cup last season when all other Premier League teams drew lower league opposition.

We drew who we drew and we had some terrible performances which deserve analysis but we also got through. Talking about luck or unluck isn't really constructive.

KSE Comedy Club
04-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Plus I have Far Cry 3 to play!

Me too!

Özim
04-12-2012, 11:06 PM
Not really. We were seeded because of our record in the CL over the last 5 years (or however they did it).
So while our draw could have been worse we've earned a decent seeding.
And within that group we've done enough to qualify and in the games I've seen we haven't been lucky, we've deserved to go through.
Do me a favour, the seeding system can't be taken seriously, we're seeded above a team who won the title in our very own country last season and who are clearly they superior to us...how is that a fair seeding system.

The seeding system offers us protection we don't really deserve, look at our performances in recent years, getting knocked out at the 1st sign of a decent team.

Kano
04-12-2012, 11:11 PM
its sad to say but now we are one of the sides the big guns would prefer to draw in the next round. we used to sit there hoping for a pub team second round but we are in that category. they'll be respect for us sure, as we always get this far at least but the favourite teams will expect to win.

Niall_Quinn
04-12-2012, 11:11 PM
Do me a favour, the seeding system can't be taken seriously, we're seeded above a team who won the title in our very own country last season and who are clearly they superior to us...how is that a fair seeding system.

The seeding system offers us protection we don't really deserve, look at our performances in recent years, getting knocked out at the 1st sign of a decent team.

The system is what it is and it seems to have worked well this year in that it has kept out a team that thinks it can buy every trophy. It took ages for the chav's money to buy it.

Özim
04-12-2012, 11:14 PM
The system is what it is and it seems to have worked well this year in that it has kept out a team that thinks it can buy every trophy. It took ages for the chav's money to buy it.
Taking away politics and the whole money thing and looking at it from the point of view of what's happening on the pitch, there's no way we should be seeded above a team with better players who are clearly superior.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:14 PM
Do me a favour, the seeding system can't be taken seriously, we're seeded above a team who won the title in our very own country last season and who are clearly they superior to us...how is that a fair seeding system.

The seeding system offers us protection we don't really deserve, look at our performances in recent years, getting knocked out at the 1st sign of a decent team.

The system is unfair but thats how it is. Blame Uefa for ruining the comp. When City manage to Stay in Europe then im sure they'd get a better group.

They may have won the league and they should have got out their group. its not our fault they could not even make the Europa league. Thats down to their manager who claims they were not ready. What does it matter who they are drawn with then.

Should the CL befor league winners yes. Will that happen no because the money they make off of it. Best you could hope for is a straight knock out.

That way a team like ours would have to work harder would they not?

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:16 PM
Taking away politics and the whole money thing and looking at it from the point of view of what's happening on the pitch, there's no way we should be seeded above a team with better players who are clearly superior.

Were not seeded cause of the state of the team, were seeded cause of getting in the comp the last 16 years. It may not seem fair but thats how it is.

Kano
04-12-2012, 11:18 PM
Taking away politics and the whole money thing and looking at it from the point of view of what's happening on the pitch, there's no way we should be seeded above a team with better players who are clearly superior.
the best thing the seeding system has done this season is to wake everyone up to where the prem stands in europe at the moment. regardless of where city were drawn, a few years back the english champions would've held their own far better than city have. in any group, the prem champs should've have been good enough to qualify.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:21 PM
the best thing the seeding system has done this season is to wake everyone up to where the prem stands in europe at the moment. regardless of where city were drawn, a few years back the english champions would've held their own far better than city have. in any group, the prem champs should've have been good enough to qualify.

:gp:

End of the day if you good enough your good enough, don't matter where your drawn in.

Niall_Quinn
04-12-2012, 11:24 PM
the best thing the seeding system has done this season is to wake everyone up to where the prem stands in europe at the moment. regardless of where city were drawn, a few years back the english champions would've held their own far better than city have. in any group, the prem champs should've have been good enough to qualify.

You can see the dire state of English football every week, the standard is diabolical. Players can't pass, head, cross, shoot, defend, tackle and it's not just us. It has been declining fast, partly because joke clubs like the chavs and the gypos are buying up talent that would previously have been spread around and sticking it on the bench. The TV money must play a part too, nobody even has to try to get rich any more, it just falls in their laps. It also attracts mercenaries in ever increasing numbers. Only good reason to watch the CL these days is to see the foreign teams who can still pass.

Özim
04-12-2012, 11:28 PM
the best thing the seeding system has done this season is to wake everyone up to where the prem stands in europe at the moment. regardless of where city were drawn, a few years back the english champions would've held their own far better than city have. in any group, the prem champs should've have been good enough to qualify.
City's group was pretty tough to be honest, Real who are one hell of a team and Dortmund who look top class.

I don't think English teams have had to face such tough teams in a group for a long time, I agree the PL is weaker though.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:31 PM
You can see the dire state of English football every week, the standard is diabolical. Players can't pass, head, cross, shoot, defend, tackle and it's not just us. It has been declining fast, partly because joke clubs like the chavs and the gypos are buying up talent that would previously have been spread around and sticking it on the bench. The TV money must play a part too, nobody even has to try to get rich any more, it just falls in their laps. It also attracts mercenaries in ever increasing numbers. Only good reason to watch the CL these days is to see the foreign teams who can still pass.

Chelsea Vs City said it all about how the english game has suffered. If that was an advert for 2 of the top teams in the league, then you know the rest are poor. None of the top team have shown any quality this season. from top to bottom this league is a shambles.

Niall_Quinn
04-12-2012, 11:33 PM
City's group was pretty tough to be honest, Real who are one hell of a team and Dortmund who look top class.

I don't think English teams have had to face such tough teams in a group for a long time, I agree the PL is weaker though.

If you can't win it by throwing a billion quid at it that's a poor show. To not even win a game hints that under the pile of cash lurks a pile of shit club.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:34 PM
City's group was pretty tough to be honest, Real who are one hell of a team and Dortmund who look top class.

I don't think English teams have had to face such tough teams in a group for a long time, I agree the PL is weaker though.

City should be beating Ajax no excuse for them not too. With the quality they have they should have done much better. They could have beatern real and nearly did in the opening game.

Kano
04-12-2012, 11:34 PM
You can see the dire state of English football every week, the standard is diabolical. Players can't pass, head, cross, shoot, defend, tackle and it's not just us. It has been declining fast, partly because joke clubs like the chavs and the gypos are buying up talent that would previously have been spread around and sticking it on the bench. The TV money must play a part too, nobody even has to try to get rich any more, it just falls in their laps. It also attracts mercenaries in ever increasing numbers. Only good reason to watch the CL these days is to see the foreign teams who can still pass.
completely agree and what the cl has done is compound that especially seeing pretty much everything about the bundesliga surpass ours.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:36 PM
completely agree and what the cl has done is compound that especially seeing pretty much everything about the bundesliga surpass ours.

The English media hype, and twats like Clive Tydsley going on like we are better then we are. Does not help.

Kano
04-12-2012, 11:39 PM
City's group was pretty tough to be honest, Real who are one hell of a team and Dortmund who look top class.

I don't think English teams have had to face such tough teams in a group for a long time, I agree the PL is weaker though.
they are excellent teams but lets not forget city had at least a point away to madrid until they fucked it up. you would've of expected chelsea/man u a few years back not to be embarrassingly outplayed at home by dortmund. sure, maybe lose the match but joe hart was a one man show. as good as ajax appeared in some games, you would still expect six points there and far more competitiveness, you know that yourself.

Özim
04-12-2012, 11:40 PM
City should be beating Ajax no excuse for them not too. With the quality they have they should have done much better. They could have beatern real and nearly did in the opening game.
I agree about Ajax yes, but the other two teams are pretty good.

Olivier's xmas twist
04-12-2012, 11:41 PM
they are excellent teams but lets not forget city had at least a point away to madrid until they fucked it up. you would've of expected chelsea/man u a few years back not to be embarrassingly outplayed at home by dortmund. sure, maybe lose the match but joe hart was a one man show. as good as ajax appeared in some games, you would still expect six points there and far more competitiveness, you know that yourself.

Pretty much, you'd not be shocked if Mancini got sacked tomorrow tbh. I think Jose would have got City through that group tbh.

Özim
04-12-2012, 11:41 PM
they are excellent teams but lets not forget city had at least a point away to madrid until they fucked it up. you would've of expected chelsea/man u a few years back not to be embarrassingly outplayed at home by dortmund. sure, maybe lose the match but joe hart was a one man show. as good as ajax appeared in some games, you would still expect six points there and far more competitiveness, you know that yourself.
Yeah I agree with that, they certainly should have beaten Ajax, but for me it was a toss up between the other three to go through, although I fancied Real for sure, Dortmund were a big surprise.

Niall_Quinn
04-12-2012, 11:53 PM
The English media hype, and twats like Clive Tydsley going on like we are better then we are. Does not help.

That's all marketing to keep the money flowing.

Olivier's xmas twist
05-12-2012, 12:06 AM
That's all marketing to keep the money flowing.

Pretty much. All these people care about is money. Fifa and Uefa the worst in this. Have ruined footie tbh.

Letters
05-12-2012, 07:13 AM
Do me a favour, the seeding system can't be taken seriously, we're seeded above a team who won the title in our very own country last season and who are clearly they superior to us...how is that a fair seeding system.

The seeding system offers us protection we don't really deserve, look at our performances in recent years, getting knocked out at the 1st sign of a decent team.
We've qualified from the group every single year. That is how we earned our seeding.
It's not luck, it's based on our performances every year. We earned it.

LDG
05-12-2012, 09:12 AM
We've qualified from the group every single year. That is how we earned our seeding.
It's not luck, it's based on our performances every year. We earned it.

No we didn't :sulk:

We've been lucky every year.

We were lucky to draw Barca twice in three years too. And don't you forget it :angry:

Niall_Quinn
05-12-2012, 12:32 PM
No we didn't :sulk:

We've been lucky every year.

We were lucky to draw Barca twice in three years too. And don't you forget it :angry:

We also had Song who could play there.

Özil's Panoramic View
05-12-2012, 02:56 PM
I'm in an optimistic mood today, 1-1.

Of course, this will be due to AW applying an unexpected 4-5-1 formation which will confuse the fuck out of the WBA manager.

Olivier's xmas twist
05-12-2012, 03:01 PM
I'm in an optimistic mood today, 1-1.

Of course, this will be due to AW applying an unexpected 4-5-1 formation which will confuse the fuck out of the WBA manager.

No we lost 2-1 im afraid.

Özil's Panoramic View
05-12-2012, 03:18 PM
No we lost 2-1 im afraid.

That's saturday's predicted result.

Figured I'd keep this thread on topic....