Fergie to retire!

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Do you expect Swansea to finish higher than Everton when they've only just started life in the Prem? They're a newly promoted team. The debate is about credentials and if you read around you'll hear people say that Moyes shouldn't be the boss of Man Utd because of his lack of credentials. He'll be tested and we'll soon find out.

:lol: but i thought their managers better? surely he can help them finish higher in the league if thats the case? nice backtrack. 'swansea havent finished higher because its their second year in the premiership..' . lets not act like they're a wigan or a reading, they are a well run club with great potential.

14 points :lol:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Look at Evertons squad. Millions spent on it. Swansea squad, around 20p.

Swansea have a trophy and will play in Europe. Everton showed no improvement from last season and Everton fans not so long ago were calling for Moyes to fuck off

:haha:

'no improvement from last season'

last season:
38 games: 56 points
this season
36 games: 60 points

2 days ago you said swansea were miles better and had improved because they had scored 2 more goals than they had last season. well everton have 4 more points than they had last season with 2 games left. but let me guess, now it doesnt count right?

[Cripps_orig]

Everton finished outside of the qualification places for Europe last season. Likewise this.

I'd say that's no improvement.

Swansea, mid table in their first season in the PL. decent effort. Qualified for Europe and won a trophy in their 2nd. I'd say that's improvement.

Laudrup has done in his first season wha Moyes has tried but failed to do in 10.

It's no contest. If finishing 7th is sign of success for you, then so be it

[Power n Glory]

:lol: but i thought their managers better? surely he can help them finish higher in the league if thats the case? nice backtrack. 'swansea havent finished higher because its their second year in the premiership..' . lets not act like they're a wigan or a reading, they are a well run club with great potential.

14 points :lol:

Back track....you need a backhand. :doh:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Everton finished outside of the qualification places for Europe last season. Likewise this.

I'd say that's no improvement.

Swansea, mid table in their first season in the PL. decent effort. Qualified for Europe and won a trophy in their 2nd. I'd say that's improvement.

Laudrup has done in his first season wha Moyes has tried but failed to do in 10.

It's no contest. If finishing 7th is sign of success for you, then so be it

oh ok. so it wasnt an improvement but it is an improvement if you look at the stats but it isnt an improvement according to your criteria. ok :wacko:


you know how you said swansea improved because they had scored 2 more goals than last season. well you wouldnt believe this, guess how many more goals everton have scored compared to last season?

but remember, when its everton, they havent improved right?

thank you and goodnight.

[Cripps_orig]

I have no idea what you're talking about now.

Bottom line.

Laudrup has won a trophy at an inferior club in his first season. Moyes failed for 10 years.

Argue that

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

sure. the reason swansea are inferior to everton is because of moyes.

14 points.

argue that

[Cripps_orig]

sure. the reason swansea are inferior to everton is because of moyes.

14 points.

argue that
Well no. Everton were a big club before Moyes came along. They even managed to win a trophy in the 10 years previous to Moyes coming. In the 10 years he's been there? Not a thing.

And I see you couldn't argue the trophy case. End of discussion.

[Xhaka Can’t]

:ilt:

[GP]

:ilt:

:gp:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

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:wacko:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Is that a close-up of his nose?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Well no. Everton were a big club before Moyes came along. They even managed to win a trophy in the 10 years previous to Moyes coming. In the 10 years he's been there? Not a thing.

And I see you couldn't argue the trophy case. End of discussion.


:lol: big club?

everton season finishes prior to moyes:

16th
13th
14th
17th
15th
6th
15th
17th
13th

whats that, the equivalent of someone like fulham nowadays? are fulham a big club as well? :lol:

trophy argument? ive owned you on that several times. premier league finishes are more important

if swansea get relegated you think they'll be happy with a tin pot? you think birmingham fans are jumping with joy? oh.

[PGFC]

Is that a close-up of his nose?

:d

[Cripps_orig]

:lol: big club?

everton season finishes prior to moyes:

16th
13th
14th
17th
15th
6th
15th
17th
13th

whats that, the equivalent of someone like fulham nowadays? are fulham a big club as well? :lol:

trophy argument? ive owned you on that several times. premier league finishes are more important

if swansea get relegated you think they'll be happy with a tin pot? you think birmingham fans are jumping with joy? oh.
Then why are you on Wengers case all the time?

Game set and match I say

Was a close one admittedly but I come away with a 6-0 6-0 6-0 win

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

oh the wenger comparison.

you see i answered that last week:

'and i dont get this comparison between me bashing wenger for not delivering trophies and then apparently contradicting myself by wanting moyes here. lets get one thing straight, we speak of them in different context; at everton, no-one expects moyes to deliver trophies every year but at arsenal its completely different because we expect trophies and something to show at the end of every season. whilst finishing 5th is good for everton, finishing 4th is bad for us. you can only compare the two if moyes had the resources wenger has had but he hasnt, he's had less than most managers in the league.

we are an elite club playing in the champions league, underperforming because of self inflicted wounds. there is no indication of that at everton, there is no loony manager making horrendous decisions, no manager who makes tactical howlers, no self inflicted wounds. im not sure how much economic background you have but to put it in blatant terms, everton are busting gut and managing to perform on the production frontier even though they shouldnt be e.g. they are over-performing, while we are underutilising resources and performing inside the frontier. everton can push a gut to try and take another step up but it will never happen; their gate receipts, stadium, lack of commercials wont allow it. its different here because we have all of that in place so if moyes came here, i think he'd do better with the resources available.'

so scrap the 6-0 6-0 6-0, i think i just finished you with the people's elbow.

charlie used to give me bigger tests :pal:

[Cripps_orig]

Now that's done and dusted, back to the topic in hand.

Has Wenger made any comment on Fergie retiring? Their rivalry is arguably the biggest Fergie had and one of the best we have seen til Wenger did what he did and Fergie left him miles behind.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Then why are you on Wengers case all the time?

Game set and match I say

Was a close one admittedly but I come away with a 6-0 6-0 6-0 win

:haha:

Hardly ever a dull moment on here.

[Niall_Quinn]

:haha:

Hardly ever a dull moment on here.

Except during the matches.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Except during the matches.

I take it you've never seen BSP, Milner, Barry, Valencia and a few other usual suspects serving up endless entertainment on here then.

[Munchies]

Now that's done and dusted, back to the topic in hand.

Has Wenger made any comment on Fergie retiring? Their rivalry is arguably the biggest Fergie had and one of the best we have seen til Wenger did what he did and Fergie left him miles behind.

I gather he'll make a comment tomorrow (or whenever the pre-match conference takes place)

But yeah, the rivalry was amazing to watch, the 'mind-games' that went on etc. But Fergie relaxed on them when he saw how turd we became.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

They're really priding themselves on this idea of longevity and stability. We'll see how much they're willing to stick to their guns should things go tits up.

:lol:

Happy Moyes Day.

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[Özim]

Now that's done and dusted, back to the topic in hand.

Has Wenger made any comment on Fergie retiring? Their rivalry is arguably the biggest Fergie had and one of the best we have seen til Wenger did what he did and Fergie left him miles behind.

:lol: I do miss Cripps, wish he would be allowed back!

[Niall_Quinn]

:lol: I do miss Cripps, wish he would be allowed back!

Same here.

Let him back! In forum fighting is crap without him.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

He's been making quite a name for himself over on Goonersworld. :lol:

Racked up over 2000 posts already since joining back in February.

Said he still fancies coming home, nonetheless.

Free Cripps!

[GP]

He was a great poster and a fine human being haha lol jk

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Hopefully, if he's ever ever allowed back, he'll start referring to you by name this time. :lol:

[GP]

Who?

[Özil's Panoramic View]

You.

[GP]

Oh.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

K.

[Özim]

He's been making quite a name for himself over on Goonersworld. :lol:

Racked up over 2000 posts already since joining back in February.

Said he still fancies coming home, nonetheless.

Free Cripps!

Makes a mockery of comments he wouldn't last a minute on other forums, clearly not true.

He should have been allowed back a long time ago, don't see what he did that was so bad, he'd been a poster for years and provided much needed entertainment on here as well.

[fakeyank]

Makes a mockery of comments he wouldn't last a minute on other forums, clearly not true.

He should have been allowed back a long time ago, don't see what he did that was so bad, he'd been a poster for years and provided much needed entertainment on here as well.

:gp:

I dont even know what he did!! What was so bad that he hasnt been let back in?!?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Guys, can you stop discussing this on multiple threads. There's one in General Chat for this kind of nonsense.