Champions League Play Off Draw Friday 9th August

[Cripps_orig]

Possible opponents

Real Sociedad
Pacos de Ferriera
Fenerbahce depending on the CAS ruling

PAOK Salonika/Metalist Kharkiv
PSV Eindhoven/Zulte Waregem


2nd legs are tonight of the latter 2. Metalist and PSV both up 2-0 so expect them through.


Hope we get Pacos

[LDG]

Really want to avoid PSV.

I know we get beat in Europe past the group stages, but PSV have always fucked us up.

[Grebbo]

Squeaky bum time for Stan.

[Marc Overmars]

Little bit nervous for this play off.

[Munchies]

Fat cunt Alex knocked us out last time we played PSV

[Grebbo]

It'll be nerve wracking and tight I'm sure. That Udinese game a couple of seasons ago was proper nerve wracking.

[Marc Overmars]

Official, the 5 teams we could face:

Real Sociedad
Pacas de Ferreira
Fenerbahce
Metalist Kharkiv
PSV Eindhoven

:sick:

[GP]

Pieces of Furniture :pray:

[Niall_Quinn]

Mentalist Kalashnikovs would be bad as we never play well over there (wherever they are)

[GP]

Ji Sung Park has gone to PSV :lol:

[cheesy bites]

Pacos
Metalist
Fenerbache
Sociedad
PSV

From easy to hard. Anyone but Pacos and ill be nervous as fuck, regardless.

[LDG]

Ji Sung Park has gone to PSV :lol:

Shit.

You just know what's going to happen.

[Özim]

Don't be nervous, we'll make it to the knockout stages and then lose then as usual.

[Marc Overmars]

Metalist and Fenerbahce could be thrown out of the competition. Wonder if you get a bye should you draw them and they're found guilty?

[Letters]

Don't be nervous, we'll make it to the knockout stages and then lose then as usual.
Pretty much, although it has to be said we've hardly gone out to bad sides we should be beating the last few years.

[Cripps_orig]

Pretty much, although it has to be said we've hardly gone out to bad sides we should be beating the last few years.

Which just shows the lack of improvement

[Özim]

Metalist and Fenerbahce could be thrown out of the competition. Wonder if you get a bye should you draw them and they're found guilty?
What for?

Not sure, do the teams who got knocked out get a 2nd chance maybe?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Metalist and Fenerbahce could be thrown out of the competition. Wonder if you get a bye should you draw them and they're found guilty?

Celtic will appeal that they should be there instead.

What's odd is that the ruling doesn't come until after the ties - we could be playing two matches that don't mean anything. UEFA. :doh:

[Letters]

Which just shows the lack of improvement
I think we all know we haven't improved. But the fact we're still getting past the group stages until we go out to teams like Bayern and Barca shows we're not that bad either. What we're doing, and have done for far too long, is stagnating.

[Nayan]

i reckon they'd give their places to some other random team from a madde up country

[Munchies]

Draw in 30 mins or so

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

who are half decent and must we avoid?

[Cripps_orig]

Celtic face Shakthar Karangrady or something

[Xhaka Can’t]

i reckon they'd give their places to some other random team from a madde up country

Bongobongland's time has come!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fenerbahce vs Arsenal.

Come on CAS ruling!

[Marc Overmars]

We got Fenerbahce. :doh:

Lets hope they're kicked out.

[JonasTC]

best team we could draw, they will hopefully not be allowed to go through, so we'll end up with some pub team or no team instead :pray:

[Cripps_orig]

We're out

[Munchies]

Yeah, for match fixing aswell, lets all hope they will get kicked out :lol:

Is this play-off over 2 legs ?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Full draw:

Champions route:

GNK Dinamo vs Austria Vienna
PFC Ludogorets Razgrad vs Basel
Viktoria Plzen vs Maribor
Shakhter Karagandy vs Celtic

League route:
Lyon vs Real Sociedad. :popcorn:
Schalke vs Mentalist Carkeys
Pacos De Ferreira vs Zenit
PSV vs Milan. :popcorn:
Fenerbahce vs Arsenal.

[LDG]

Will take that over PSV, but still. Horrible draw.

[I_Killed_Kenny]

not liking this. our pussy players will be crying at the atmosphere over there! at least they dont have Dids!

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah, for match fixing aswell, lets all hope they will get kicked out :lol:

Is this play-off over 2 legs ?

As always

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We (well Theo) killed Fenerbahce 2-5 we last played there away, I think.

Theo. :bow:

[Munchies]

Their team, and players I know:

1 Turkey GK Volkan Demirel
2 Turkey DF Egemen Korkmaz
3 Turkey DF Hasan Ali Kaldırım
4 Turkey DF Bekir İrtegün
5 Turkey MF Mehmet Topal
6 Nigeria DF Joseph Yobo
7 Senegal FW Moussa Sow
8 Sweden MF Samuel Holmén
9 Nigeria FW Emmanuel Emenike
11 Netherlands FW Dirk Kuyt
14 Portugal MF Raul Meireles
16 Brazil MF Cristian
21 Turkey MF Selçuk Şahin
22 Portugal DF Bruno Alves

No. Position Player
23 Turkey GK Mert Günok
24 Czech Republic DF Michal Kadlec
25 Turkey MF Emre Belözoğlu
26 Turkey MF Alper Potuk
38 Turkey MF Mehmet Topuz
48 Turkey MF Salih Uçan
53 Turkey DF Serdar Kesimal
77 Turkey DF Gökhan Gönül
85 Turkey GK Serkan Kırıntılı
88 Turkey MF Caner Erkin
99 Cameroon FW Pierre Webó

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kuyt. :haha:

Ah crap.

[Cripps_orig]

We'll be fine as long as Kuyts best friend isn't the ref

[Ralpheroo72]

All over for us me thinks, not the worst draw but shit nonetheless

[Munchies]

That Emenike fella has 90+ pace and 90 strength on Fifa 13 , best striker pretty much, everyone uses him up front :haha:

[Cripps_orig]

Do we go in to the Europa when we lose this?

[LDG]

Kuyt. :haha:

Ah crap.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fr58yx-xjLg/TKEB0FcH61I/AAAAAAAAEco/4tijB55ySnY/s320/sloth_goonies-431x300.jpg

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

From arseblog:

For any new player to be eligible for this game, they have to be signed and registered before the end of Monday

we're fucked.

[Munchies]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Fr58yx-xjLg/TKEB0FcH61I/AAAAAAAAEco/4tijB55ySnY/s320/sloth_goonies-431x300.jpg

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/fwhw98fy-thumb.gif

[McNamara That Ghost...]

From arseblog:

For any new player to be eligible for this game, they have to be signed and registered before the end of Monday

we're fucked.

That's initial registration presumably. I doubt it's for the finalised squad submission.

[Alpha]

Andre Santos was playing in Turkey . Probably at Fernebache , I am not sure . He was one of the best players in Turkish league . He signed for Arsenal and Arsenal fans had a chance to see the level of a footballer playing in Turkey . And yet a turkish team can still get Arsenal fans scared to death . What a comedy .

[LDG]

Alpha :bow:

Foreign Ollie :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Should be a routine victory and if not every fucker should be sacked.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

kos and santi suspended too apparently? :doh:

[Xhaka Can’t]

kos and santi suspended too apparently? :doh:

That should spare them from NQ's mass stacking

[LDG]

kos and santi suspended too apparently? :doh:

One or two games?

[Alpha]

kos and santi suspended too apparently? :doh:
They can't be suspended for both games . Maybe for the first leg . Kos can be replaced by Sagna and Santi by the Ox or Serge Gnabry and we are all sorted . No need to panic here .

[Niall_Quinn]

kos and santi suspended too apparently? :doh:

Wow, really? Okay then, sack everyone now.

[Cripps_orig]

They can't be suspended for both games . Maybe for the first leg . Kos can be replaced by Sagna and Santi by the Ox or Serge Gnabry and we are all sorted . No need to panic here .

Gnabry :lol:

We're fucked

[Niall_Quinn]

They can't be suspended for both games . Maybe for the first leg . Kos can be replaced by Sagna and Santi by the Ox or Serge Gnabry and we are all sorted . No need to panic here .

True. Ox can knock all their defenders down and Gnabry can keep shooting until something accidentally goes in.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

That's initial registration presumably. I doubt it's for the finalised squad submission.

applies for 1st leg only apparently

[PGFC]

It's a bullshit draw, if we win UEFA will uphold their ban anyway, if we lose they'll overturn it, fantastic.

[Letters]

We're out
Nah.

We have Wenger

:good:

[Niall_Quinn]

It's a bullshit draw, if we win UEFA will uphold their ban anyway, if we lose they'll overturn it, fantastic.

I still think we should have the lasagne on standby, better safe than sorry.

[Cripps_orig]

Nah.

As a great man once said, We have Wenger

:good:just fixed your little mistake there

[Alpha]

Fenerbache participation to the qualifier is subject to Fifa clearance as they have a disciplinary processing pending . They can be kicked out or forced to play behind closed doors in a neutral ground . It all play in our favor . Bring them on .

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Fenerbache participation to the qualifier is subject to Fifa clearance as they have a disciplinary processing pending . They can be kicked out or forced to play behind closed doors in a neutral ground . It all play in our favor . Bring them on .

they wont be kicked out. they're quite a big club (historically anyway). uefa will bottle it again. they'll get a slap on the wrist as usual.

an organisation that fines people for racism, don't forget. no chance they'll be kicked out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's UEFA that made the initial ban tbf. Up to the CAS what happens now.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

oh seen blud. safe for dat info mandem.

[Boss]

Easy qualification.

Calm the fuck down you pussies.

[Nayan]

eh?


Decisions on Beşiktaş, Fenerbahçe, Steaua
Published: Tuesday 25 June 2013, 19.08CETThe UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body has announced its decisions following the disciplinary proceedings relating to Fenerbahçe SK, Beşiktaş JK and FC Steaua Bucureşti.
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©UEFA.com Latest updates Referee Andranik Arsenyan and assistant Hovhannes Avagyan, who oversaw a UEFA Europa League match last month between FC Inter Turku and Víkingur, have been suspended.

A disciplinary proceeding has been opened in accordance with Article 12 of the UEFA Disciplinary Regulations (integrity of matches and competitions, and match-fixing). The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body on Thursday 22 August.

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Match-fixing preventionPublished: Tuesday 25 June 2013, 19.08CETDecisions on Beşiktaş, Fenerbahçe, SteauaThe UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body has announced its decisions following the disciplinary proceedings relating to Fenerbahçe SK, Beşiktaş JK and FC Steaua Bucureşti. Read more
The UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body (CDB) today announced its decisions following the disciplinary proceedings relating to Fenerbahçe SK (Turkey), Beşiktaş JK (Turkey) and FC Steaua Bucureşti (Romania).

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UEFA statement on TurkeyCAS Málaga decision welcomedDisciplinary proceedings begunTackling racism, match-fixingThe CDB carefully analysed the situation of Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş and has applied the following sanctions:

• Beşiktaş are not eligible to participate in the 2013/14 UEFA Europa League.

• Fenerbahçe are excluded from participating in the next three UEFA club competitions for which they would qualify, including the 2013/14 UEFA Champions League. The ban for the third season is deferred for a probationary period of five years.

The CDB also carefully analysed the situation of Steaua and, taking into account certain mitigating circumstances, the following sanction has been imposed:

• Steaua are not eligible to participate in one UEFA club competition for which the club would otherwise qualify. This sanction is deferred for a probationary period of five years.

All clubs have the opportunity to appeal the decisions of the CDB to the UEFA Appeals Body.

Furthermore, in relation to the individuals of the clubs involved in the cases of Fenerbahçe and Beşiktaş, the CDB decided that certain additional information will be collected in order to consider in further detail the different position of each of the individuals concerned.
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[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Wow, really? Okay then, sack everyone now.

fuck knows, twitter is confused.

apparently only for 1st leg.

someone says cards dont get carried over.

given me a headache tbh.

[Alpha]

they wont be kicked out. they're quite a big club (historically anyway). uefa will bottle it again. they'll get a slap on the wrist as usual.

an organisation that fines people for racism, don't forget. no chance they'll be kicked out.

We are not betting on them being kicked out . Even though we had Bendtner as a main striker I would have been confident of our qualification .

[Nayan]

they wont be kicked out. they're quite a big club (historically anyway). uefa will bottle it again. they'll get a slap on the wrist as usual.

an organisation that fines people for racism, don't forget. no chance they'll be kicked out.


Its a uefa competition and uefa kicked them out already. What do FIFA have to do with it? Im really cconfused now

[Nayan]

ironically, bendter has in fact scored a playoff winning, CL prequalification sealing goal before.

[Marc Overmars]

Its a uefa competition and uefa kicked them out already. What do FIFA have to do with it? Im really cconfused now

Not FIFA, it's the CAS dealing with it, they're an independent body who can overturn Uefa rulings.

Decision will be made on the 28th.

[Cripps_orig]

We'll lose, Fener will lose the appeal, we get reinstated after a big battle with Celtic on who gets in, we go on to win the CL when we shouldn't have been in it and spuds will forever bring that up.

It's happening.

[Ollie the Optimist]

At least we are home for second leg. I think we 'll lose first leg, 2-1 so we need home advantage for second leg. Kos amd SANTI are not suspended as yellows don't carry over from last season. This draw worries me.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Sadly, I don't give a damn if we win this or not. The only good thing about finishing fourth was stopping the Spuds qualifying. We've achieved that already.

[selassie]

Fairly tough draw TBH, sure they aren't brilliant but neither are we. I think it's 60/40 in our favour.

[Özim]

TheY'REnot a great team, the Spaniards Sociedad would have been much harder than them (Socediad are very good saw them last season). Got knocked out by Spartak Moscow last season I think and they're not all that either.

We should get through comfortably.

[Nayan]

Not FIFA, it's the CAS dealing with it, they're an independent body who can overturn Uefa rulings.

Decision will be made on the 28th.

tahts what I figured. quoted swayr's post instead of alphas one sorry

[selassie]

Their not a great team, the Spaniards Socieda would have been much harder than them (Socediad are very good saw them last season). Got knocked out by Spartak Moscow last season I think and they're not all that either.

We should get through comfortably.

Yeah I agree, Sociedad would have been a nightmare draw. I do think we'll get through...though I reckon we're going to make it difficult for ourselves.

TBF, we do usually do well in these qualifiers, we've had enough experience!

[Cripps_orig]

After a little break I've decided to look at this in a positive way.

I reckon we could have taken any of the teams we could have faced. Unfortunately for Fener, it's them. Rumour has it they are appealing their appeal to that CAS thingy as they want to be chucked out cos they are scared of the beating they will get.

We have better players. Scored 5 there last time we faced them in Turkey. See nothing in their squad to really worry me.

Won't be easy but I'm very confident we re in the group stage draw in a few weeks.

We have Wenger.

Fener favourites IMO.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We'll qualify .... we always do but as usual we'll make things hard for ourselves.

1 - 1 first leg, 2 - 0 return leg.

[Niall_Quinn]

After a little break I've decided to look at this in a positive way.

I reckon we could have taken any of the teams we could have faced. Unfortunately for Fener, it's them. Rumour has it they are appealing their appeal to that CAS thingy as they want to be chucked out cos they are scared of the beating they will get.

We have better players. Scored 5 there last time we faced them in Turkey. See nothing in their squad to really worry me.

Won't be easy but I'm very confident we re in the group stage draw in a few weeks.

We have Wenger.

Fener favourites IMO.

We also have Walcott.

Bet the house on the Turks.

[Nayan]

we are utter shit and will lose 1-nil on aggregate

[kas]

Sadly, I don't give a damn if we win this or not. The only good thing about finishing fourth was stopping the Spuds qualifying. We've achieved that already.

Sadly it did not stop them buying some decent players!

[GP]

Miyaichi, Eisfeld, Gnabry, Martinez and Zelalem have been included in #Arsenal's Champions League squad.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Project Youth is back. :bow:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Never left, tbh.

[Gooner23]

Martinez was always going to be in there as he's currently 3rd choice.

Its total Madness by Wenger not to have strengthened the squad, but Eisfeld and Gnabbers at least have a bit about them.

[Ollie the Optimist]

the uefa rule that you can only add one player into the squad between now and the match is stupid. in the middle of a transfer window, you can only add one in. should be allowed to add as many as you want as long as it keeps within the squad rules.

still, we shouldnt have to worry about that rule, we should have got hte players signed already

[GP]

the uefa rule that you can only add one player into the squad between now and the match is stupid. in the middle of a transfer window, you can only add one in. should be allowed to add as many as you want as long as it keeps within the squad rules.

Pretty sure we won't be affected.

[Niall_Quinn]

Miyaichi, Eisfeld, Gnabry, Martinez and Zelalem have been included in #Arsenal's Champions League squad.

Well good luck to them. But we won't be competing in the competition if we are relying on reserves to pad the numbers. TH14 loan starting to look our best option.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

To have any chance of qualifying we will need to win in Turkey, because frankly i don't trust in our ability to beat anyone at the Emirates. It's not because the atmosphere generated by the home fans or any nonsense like that, it's that we are more inclined to push forward at home and with our dreadful joke of a central midfield it will leave our defence exposed...where as away from home i imagine we will sit deeper and counter attack.

[Cripps_orig]

Yeah midfield is a massive problem and how it hasn't been rectified this summer is a joke

[Marc Overmars]

Metalist have been thrown out. :lol:

[Ollie the Optimist]

Metalist have been thrown out. :lol:


there is a good thing about that. shalke have been put through to the groups stage, instead of playing another team in the play offs. so when we lose to febernache, if their ban is upheld and they are kicked out too, we go straight through to group stages rather then another playoff it seems

[Gooner23]

1146:
FOOTBALL
Ukrainian club Metalist Kharkiv are disqualified from European competitions for the 2013-14 season following a match-fixing investigation, Uefa announce. They were due to play Germany's Schalke in the Champions League play-off round later this month.

Uefa have yet to announce whether Schalke will now automatically advance to the group stage or whether to reinstate a team from the previous round.

[Ollie the Optimist]

ignore me then. seen people saying uefa had already put through schalke

[Marc Overmars]

I would have thought PAOK would be given the chance to face Schalke.

[Cripps_orig]

Team should be reinstated

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a calamity.

[Munchies]

Dirk Kuyt (fucking diving bellend) , posted this pic of him recently :

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08_02/dirk_302x322.jpg

Clash of heads with Swansea's De Guzman:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/13/article-2392239-1B47D419000005DC-81_634x438.jpg

[BlindFaith_8]

Fenerbache will be kicked out 100% otherwise Metalist will start claiming Uefa as being dodgy with one rule for cheating for one club and other rule for other clubs. So we will be in group stage no worries and the euros will be flowing through to Stans, Arsene's and the boards bank account.

[Özim]

Real and Barca have just released their Christmas wish list, one of the items is "Arsenal in the last 16 of the Champions League please"