Match Reaction vs United

[BOBN]

:sulk:

So what are you exactly saying? Özil will keep feeding Walcott like that, and Walcott will keep missing those chances every game and therefor you dont like Özil...?
Lets hope he does.

All im saying is that a £42m player shouldnt be relying on shyte. I dont see Ronaldo waiting for anybody.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Ozil is a different player though. He's never been one to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and turn it around single handedly. He's part of the harmony, not the leader. But when he's part of that harmony, he improves it tremendously. And that's what we've seen.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Ozil is a different player though. He's never been one to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and turn it around single handedly. He's part of the harmony, not the leader. But when he's part of that harmony, he improves it tremendously. And that's what we've seen.

I think that is well summarised.

I do think the club lacks a player or two with the sheer audacity and brilliance to take the game by the scruff of the neck (pardon the repeated cliche) when we are absolutely not on it in the game and nick a point or 3.

I think the problem is that, because of his price alone, people expect Ozil to be the type of player above. I don't think that is wholly fair but I understand why people feel that way.

[IBK]

I think that is well summarised.

I do think the club lacks a player or two with the sheer audacity and brilliance to take the game by the scruff of the neck (pardon the repeated cliche) when we are absolutely not on it in the game and nick a point or 3.

I think the problem is that, because of his price alone, people expect Ozil to be the type of player above. I don't think that is wholly fair but I understand why people feel that way.

TBF though shouldn't a 42M player be a game changer rather than one of the pack? Of course we should give Ozil time to bed in and play with our full contingent of regular goal scorers, but at present you would be hard pressed to tell, on performances on the pitch, which of Cazorla, Rosicky and Ozil cost more. Ozil has given the team a lift in other ways. I don't think it's unfair to have expected a little more from him footballing wise so far.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

That's precisely the problem I was highlighting.

People will differ on their thoughts on it naturally. I think he is a game changer. I just don't think he's a one man game changer or likely to ever force results in our favour with regularity. I wasn't expecting him to be that sort of player either so regardless of his price tag, I never had much trouble squaring his lack of the knack for the aforementioned.

In fairness there are only a handful of players who regularly change games on their own at this level. Of course no truly great team really relies on one player to constantly do it on their own, but there are but a handful who regularly do it in the absence or whenever their team isn't clicking as well as when their team is playing well.

We would struggle to name more than several players in world football of that ilk.

[Marc Overmars]

He's not someone who'll score worldies when we're playing shit to dig us out of a hole, we had one of those but lets not go there...

He's all about the service, you can see it when he tries for a difficult cut back rather than putting a hopeful ball in the mixer like a normal player would.

[Syn]

He's not someone who'll score worldies when we're playing shit to dig us out of a hole, we had one of those but lets not go there...

He's all about the service, you can see it when he tries for a difficult cut back rather than putting a hopeful ball in the mixer like a normal player would.

He is, and he's probably a little too selfless for his own good. But my view is that he has joined us to grab the headlines. He has all the ingredients - one the best first touches in world football, lots of pace, a good brain...he just needs to beef up slightly and then Wenget will do his job of turning those with awful composure in front of goal into fantasy football mavericks. He was already an assist machine, now I reckon he wants a fuckload of goals.

[BOBN]

Tbf hes a better ball carrier than I had him down for, not just a pass merchant like that Fabregas.

So thats all the more reason he should be able to decide games. Yeah he needs time to settle, but if hes shyt he needs to own that. Not really interested in this "if Player A did Y" nonsense.

[JonasTC]

I really dont get football fans/media today... Its all about scoring, no mather what your position is :s I even heard some media talking about Gibbs not doing well enough, because of his scoring statistics (and Wilshere aswell). A guy like Zinedine Zidane would have no chance of winning ballon d'or in todays football, who i think Özil reminds me most about. who btw, people hardly knew about, when he was Özils age.

Im sure we weill see great things from this guy, as soon as he settles in this country/culture, the premier league and within the team. He's still a young guy and will develop even further.

[IBK]

That's precisely the problem I was highlighting.

People will differ on their thoughts on it naturally. I think he is a game changer. I just don't think he's a one man game changer or likely to ever force results in our favour with regularity. I wasn't expecting him to be that sort of player either so regardless of his price tag, I never had much trouble squaring his lack of the knack for the aforementioned.

In fairness there are only a handful of players who regularly change games on their own at this level. Of course no truly great team really relies on one player to constantly do it on their own, but there are but a handful who regularly do it in the absence or whenever their team isn't clicking as well as when their team is playing well.

We would struggle to name more than several players in world football of that ilk.

Personally, I'd sum it up by saying he's a team changer rather than a game changer. All well and good, and of course true game changers are uncommon. But if you look at the traditional top 4 (excluding us), all of them (apart from perhaps Spurs - and they sold their game changer to RM) have 2 or more players who can change a game on their own. As we have seen with our own recent examples - you need players like these to help you pick up points when the team has an off day. Its fair to say that perhaps Ozil is a victim of the type of player he is and the manager's decision to break the bank for that type of player, but 42M is enough money to bring a true 'game changer' to the club. I wouldn't be without Ozil, because clearly he has helped to lift our players. But footballing wise, so far his on pitch exploits have not matched his off-field contribution. That's not reactionary or an indication that he can't go on to become a monster under Wenger's tutilage. Just an observation so far. Lets hope that given what we have paid for him his improvement will be quicker than that of the developmental players who cost a lot less for the manager to develop.

[IBK]

I really dont get football fans/media today... Its all about scoring, no mather what your position is :s I even heard some media talking about Gibbs not doing well enough, because of his scoring statistics (and Wilshere aswell). A guy like Zinedine Zidane would have no chance of winning ballon d'or in todays football, who i think Özil reminds me most about. who btw, people hardly knew about, when he was Özils age.

I'm sure we will see great things from this guy, as soon as he settles in this country/culture, the premier league and within the team. He's still a young guy and will develop even further.

I take your point, and tend to agree that Ozil will come good. Personally, I think its fair enough that when a club - even more so Arsenal - spend that amount on a player, the spotlight is on him and people are looking for him to work miracles every week.

[Nayan]

Tight game. Thought we looked leggy and tired. Second half much better, and two big strikers bearing down on a perfect crosses from sagna really should've yielded a goal.
I don't think we were good value for three points but its a shame we didn't scarp our way to a draw.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Personally, I'd sum it up by saying he's a team changer rather than a game changer. All well and good, and of course true game changers are uncommon. But if you look at the traditional top 4 (excluding us), all of them (apart from perhaps Spurs - and they sold their game changer to RM) have 2 or more players who can change a game on their own. As we have seen with our own recent examples - you need players like these to help you pick up points when the team has an off day. Its fair to say that perhaps Ozil is a victim of the type of player he is and the manager's decision to break the bank for that type of player, but 42M is enough money to bring a true 'game changer' to the club. I wouldn't be without Ozil, because clearly he has helped to lift our players. But footballing wise, so far his on pitch exploits have not matched his off-field contribution. That's not reactionary or an indication that he can't go on to become a monster under Wenger's tutilage. Just an observation so far. Lets hope that given what we have paid for him his improvement will be quicker than that of the developmental players who cost a lot less for the manager to develop.

I actually do think we need a game changer and have done since we sold the skunk. That is why I advocate the next forward we sign being of the absolute best quality we can afford, within reason.

And I think we need to acquire that game changer rather than mould Ozil into it. I think we should allow Ozil to be Ozil. He can obviously afford to score more but I don't think it's really his game to ever be a 1 in 1 or a 1 in 2 goal scorer.

[Globalgunner]

Ozil is an exceptional player, however he needs other exceptional players around him otherwise , similar with the departure of Van P, it will beat case of one step fowardsand one step backwards. His lift on the team is tangible but we are imo still 1 or 2players away from the calibre of the invincibles, a team that can stand up to any other in this league or in Europe.The fear is that if we don't make the right purchases soon. We may end up where we were in 2009, on the cusp of great team only to see all our best players leave us in disillusionment. Players like, Ozil, Cazorla, will not be here in 2 years time if we still haven't won anything.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Yes that's true. Too many times we've rested on our laurels and thought further investment was not needed. Unfortunately football doesn't work like that because the level of competition is so high.

We're now in a sound financial position so must make use of it by signing 1-2 top players every year, say 1 in january and 1 in the summer. Or at the very least, 1 top signing and a few other less profile players in a calendar year. In other words, we need to go back to being a normal football club i.e. investing in the areas that need investing. This is something we stopped doing during project youth.

[Injury Time]

Typical. :crying: