Cheap ass scousers want cheaper tickets

[footloose, the wanderer]

1. Should they get them

2. Why?

3. Shouldn't Liverpool FC subsidise their tickets ? They do get 45% of the gate from an FA Cup 5th round game (even tho' 80+% of gate receipts will be from gooners)

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I think you already have put it down to a B game, rather than A.

Because they are fucking expensive. Absurdly expensive.

We already do. About £2 per away game.... every little helps.

I would assume if away fans get them cheaper, home fans would too? How dare they!

[Xhaka Can’t]

This is in direct contrast to the Spuds when they demanded that Arsenal increase the price of League Cup tickets from the traditional concessionary rates.

[Ollie the Optimist]

its a tough one this, i thought the liverpool fans demanding in that letter for tickets around the 25 quid mark were taking the piss given that a week before the fa cup they are charging us 40 odd quid and for crap views.

in general, i think the emirates is the best for away fans. good seating, good views and facilities etc etc but yes the money we charge is too high however when you see a fact that no premier league side charges less then 40 quid for Arsenal fans, yet you see nothing about in the media, its quite hard to have sympathy to a certain extent. take villa for example, they were charged around 35 quid for away tickets at the emirates yet charged us 45 quid (or at least that was the cost of my ticket)

a lot of grounds have crap views for away fans, Anfield is one of them, west ham, QPR are others where there are restricted views because of poles etc yet still charge stupidly high prices for restricted views. Norwich regularly charge the big clubs 50 quid an away ticket yet you never hear anything about that. there was a huge fuss last year made by man city fans about the 62 quid away ticket cost for the Arsenal game and the media went mad over it, the linesman of the match even got involved by telling city the fans had paid 62 quid and go say thank you. earlier that season city had charged us around 55 quid, and the following week, we played chelsea away and got charged 61 quid for the ticket. nothing was said in the media.

while away fans are getting ripped off, and yes Arsenal are the highest priced away tickets, it seems to me that this has turned into an anti arsenal crusade by other fans and the media. I'm not supporting arsenal charging 62 quid a ticket, i think its too much myself, but a lot of other clubs are charging way to much too. take liveprool and their restricted view, they knock about a pound off the normal price yet someone could have a pillar in their way and pay around 45 quid. thats not exactly right either is it? prices are generally too high all round, Arsenal might be the highest but chelsea/city both charge around 55-60 quid per away ticket, a lot of the smaller clubs charge us more then we charge them. Swansea is another example, last year they were a category C fixture, so away fans charged roughly 25 quid yet charged us 45 quid for the league game at theirs. Arsenal's prices are generally the highest, but they are not the worst when you take into account what you get, IMO its the best facilities, unrestricted views etc. Prices all over need to come down, but the way the media have gone about Arsenal's prices is wrong as its acting as if they are the only ones who charge away fans. One final example, in the COC game v chelsea, we charged everyone a tenner, in the same round, man united charged norwich fans 45 quid.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

It's also worth noting that the SoS [our self-appointed fan group] statement wa smade in conjuction with your own Black Hand Gang.
http://www.blackscarfafc.co.uk/bsm-calls-on-arsenal-to-do-the-right-thing.html

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I don't mind Liverpool moaning about them but I will absoutely not accept criticism about the ticket prices from Man City and Chelsea fans, which I have seen on both Bluemoon and The Shed End. Just hyprocrisy.

Can their small minds not realise that it's only because of their inflation of the football market through offering ridicolous salaries and transfer fees that it's now come to us charging these ticket prices for us to even stand of a chance of competing fairly.

All in all, £93 is a tad ridicolous London or not - at the very least get it down the the £70 range. Hopefully the club use the increased commerical revenue to ease the burden of the matchgoing fans on top of spending more on signings.

[The Ogg Monster]

The tickets are a fucking rip-off, they arent 'cheap scousers' theyre just fans, like me who want to watch their team but cant afford it.

[Marc Overmars]

The tickets are a fucking rip-off, they arent 'cheap scousers' theyre just fans, like me who want to watch their team but cant afford it.

Pretty much. Paying in excess of £62 for a football match makes my eyes water.

Our B & C games are reasonable but there is a huge leap in price for A games that needs to be revised.

[Letters]

The tickets are a fucking rip-off, they arent 'cheap scousers' theyre just fans, like me who want to watch their team but cant afford it.

Unfortunately for you 60,000 people can and do afford it. Supply and demand, innit.

[The Ogg Monster]

But the real fans suffer, all those emty seats at the Emirates before kick-off, half time, final whistle make me sick whilst im watching and living every moment from a shitty internet stream or the pub.

The tickets a so expensive, ive only seen arsenal once at the emirates but went to Highbury plenty of times and im only 26.

[Letters]

But the real fans suffer, all those emty seats at the Emirates before kick-off, half time, final whistle make me sick whilst im watching and living every moment from a shitty internet stream or the pub.

The tickets a so expensive, ive only seen arsenal once at the emirates but went to Highbury plenty of times and im only 26.
Sure, but we all want £40m signings and the money to pay their wages.
Gate receipts are a significant percentage of our income. I agree it's not right but nor are lots of things in the modern game.
Whaddaya do? :shrug:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Don't blame the player, blame the game.



It's what we have to do to compete in a post Russian/Arab/Oil football world. The sooner UEFA have the balls to fully implement FFP the better for us all.

[Munchies]

But the real fans suffer, all those emty seats at the Emirates before kick-off, half time, final whistle make me sick whilst im watching and living every moment from a shitty internet stream or the pub.

The tickets a so expensive, ive only seen arsenal once at the emirates but went to Highbury plenty of times and im only 26.

I hardly go to premiership games now. Think the last one was a few years ago against Chelsea (which my friend got tickets for but sold to me)

Either Carling Cup when its around a tenner, fa cup games, or the Emirates Cup in the summer.

As Letters said though, if you're not going to go, you'll get 100s of other fans who will.

[footloose, the wanderer]

Don't blame the player, blame the game.



It's what we have to do to compete in a post Russian/Arab/Oil football world. The sooner UEFA have the balls to fully implement FFP the better for us all.


Amen to that

[fakeyank]

I think the ticket prices arent too bad, tbh..

[footloose, the wanderer]

Initial post wasn't really aimed at 'pool supporters - mostly at who should be subsidising them....

Liverpool FC will pocket 45% of a reputed average gate of £3,000,000 - that's £1,350,000 - surely they could afford £10-20 subsidy for their 9,000 fans (£90-180,000) still leaving them with £1,170,000 -£1,260,000)?

Why should Arsenal FC have to reduce the cost for 'pool fans?

[Xhaka Can’t]

I think the ticket prices arent too bad, tbh..

I'm going to have to start charging you 'administrative fees'.

[Marc Overmars]

I'm going to have to start charging you 'administrative fees'.

Probably more reasonable than the booking fee they charge tbh.

[Özim]

The tickets are a fucking rip-off, they arent 'cheap scousers' theyre just fans, like me who want to watch their team but cant afford it.

You're right, they don't set the prices of tickets for their clubs either, on top of that the other thing is, the further north you go the less people earn generally, so essentially the cost of a ticket is higher for them.

[Özim]

Sure, but we all want £40m signings and the money to pay their wages.
Gate receipts are a significant percentage of our income. I agree it's not right but nor are lots of things in the modern game.
Whaddaya do? :shrug:

We've got the 2nd biggest squad in Europe apparently, maybe we should trim it (get rid of players who maybe aren't really up to it) and also lose the players who are injury prone in our squad.

This may help a bit at least.

[Power n Glory]

I don't mind Liverpool moaning about them but I will absoutely not accept criticism about the ticket prices from Man City and Chelsea fans, which I have seen on both Bluemoon and The Shed End. Just hyprocrisy.

Can their small minds not realise that it's only because of their inflation of the football market through offering ridicolous salaries and transfer fees that it's now come to us charging these ticket prices for us to even stand of a chance of competing fairly.

All in all, £93 is a tad ridicolous London or not - at the very least get it down the the £70 range. Hopefully the club use the increased commerical revenue to ease the burden of the matchgoing fans on top of spending more on signings.

They've inflated the market with crazy wages and transfer fees but we've never tried to compete with that. We've only just started paying players over £100k. Prior to this season, we'd try to keep wages low and on an even scale. We used to have a load of unproven talent on £30k-£60k. We hardly ever spent over £15m on a signing. Even if the FFP starts to work and clubs reduce their outgoings by a significant amount, the clubs won't slash ticket prices.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Probably more reasonable than the booking fee they charge tbh.

Nah.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Initial post wasn't really aimed at 'pool supporters - mostly at who should be subsidising them....

Liverpool FC will pocket 45% of a reputed average gate of £3,000,000 - that's £1,350,000 - surely they could afford £10-20 subsidy for their 9,000 fans (£90-180,000) still leaving them with £1,170,000 -£1,260,000)?

Why should Arsenal FC have to reduce the cost for 'pool fans?
Because the prices will be reduced for everyone. And since the price for everyone will be lower, matchday revenue will be lower and we won't take as much as we originally would so it's not as if we're somehow getting one over you. On the other hand, both clubs may even get the same/more since this game is sandwiched between far bigger games, all no doubt category A, and likely to feature weakened team/s. I would think this fixture is a much more attractive proposition to watch, now it is cheaper. As you say, the difference for the clubs is tiny, negligible, but the difference for fans is rather large especially when you take travel into account.

Your fans were calling for it too, so it's not as if this was some sort of demand the club made.

In any case, going by the Black Scarf people, all this does is bring it in line with your policy last season.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sure, but we all want £40m signings and the money to pay their wages.
Gate receipts are a significant percentage of our income. I agree it's not right but nor are lots of things in the modern game.
Whaddaya do? :shrug:

Do we really want all that? Or would it be better to kick the chavs, the gypos, psg, the spaniards etc out of the game and make everything cheaper across the board? Bigger prices are mostly going to fund bigger margins for fewer individuals. Stupid wages, stupid transfer fees, for players that aren't fit to lace the boots of the guys who played for a tenner. Everyone says you can't go back, but it will have to after it collapses. In 20 years there may be 20-30 clubs across Europe all playing in some shitty league with tickets £500 each and all the other clubs bust. That's the way it's going. Pumping more cash into it, or dragging it out of the fans, will just accelerate the crash.

[Letters]

We've got the 2nd biggest squad in Europe apparently, maybe we should trim it (get rid of players who maybe aren't really up to it) and also lose the players who are injury prone in our squad.

This may help a bit at least.
We had a massive clear out in the summer, we have all, you included, been lamenting how thin our squad is :shrug:

[Letters]

Do we really want all that? Or would it be better to kick the chavs, the gypos, psg, the spaniards etc out of the game and make everything cheaper across the board? Bigger prices are mostly going to fund bigger margins for fewer individuals. Stupid wages, stupid transfer fees, for players that aren't fit to lace the boots of the guys who played for a tenner. Everyone says you can't go back, but it will have to after it collapses. In 20 years there may be 20-30 clubs across Europe all playing in some shitty league with tickets £500 each and all the other clubs bust. That's the way it's going. Pumping more cash into it, or dragging it out of the fans, will just accelerate the crash.
Well, obviously the ideal is a more equitable distribution of money in the game and it to be brought down to less obscene amounts all round but I don't see what will make that happen. Will the bubble burst? We've just been through a massive recession and people kept on going so I'm not sure what would make that happen.

[Ollie the Optimist]

read on twitter that making this a category B fixture only helps about 7000 Arsenal fans and the liverpool fans which frankly is a load of bollocks. The cup credit system means that this is the 7th credit, and the club have made Bayern a Cat A fixture meaning they get full price from all season ticket holders while the liverpool away fans get cheaper tickets for an away game.

While any time Arsenal lowering prices is a good gesture, what they should have done is made this the "8th" cup credit as it was drawn after Bayern was announced. seems to have left a lot of ST holders not wanting to go to Bayern as it could be an extra 100 quid at renewal time on top of an already hugely expensive ticket