Will we finish 4th?

[cheesy bites]

3

Arsenal
30 played


62 points



4
Man City
27 played


60 points



5
Tottenham
30 played


53 points



6
Everton

28 played


51 points




Everton win both and they're 5 behind. We play City and Everton away.

[Niall_Quinn]

No, 1st

[JonasTC]

Ofc we'll stay in top4 :) We might be uber shit vs the big teams, but what have kept us up there this season is our consistency vs the shit teams.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

12th

[fakeyank]

Yes. 4th place trophy is coming home. :trophy:

[ARightTouch]

Specialist in 4th place!

[selassie]

All joking aside, Everton will be 5 points behind us if they win both games in hand. We also have to play Everton & City. I don't think 4th place is totally secured yet. As long as we avoid defeat in both of those games I think we'll finish 4th.

[Bumble]

we will finish 4th as everton have to win there game in hand and they have to beat us as well. we have done well against all teams with significantly less resources than us. so unless we get humped by everton and go into some kind of freefall we will be ok.

[Chippy]

3

Arsenal
30 played


62 points



4
Man City
27 played


60 points



5
Tottenham
30 played


53 points



6
Everton

28 played


51 points




Everton win both and they're 5 behind. We play City and Everton away.
What's the point finishing fourth? If we do, this fucking shit will continue. I have supported Arsenal since 1975 and cannot remember so many heavy defeats so close together. Fuck fourth.

[Niall_Quinn]

What's the point finishing fourth? If we do, this fucking shit will continue. I have supported Arsenal since 1975 and cannot remember so many heavy defeats so close together. Fuck fourth.

Finishing in the CL spots this year is massive. No point the cash finally arriving if we can't attract players because they want CL footie.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm just worried about dicking around all summer and waiting until we're sure we've qualified.

[Chippy]

Finishing in the CL spots this year is massive. No point the cash finally arriving if we can't attract players because they want CL footie.
You mean players like Bendter and Sanogo ?? We have qualified for 14 years running and attracted very little ! You are dreaming!! Fifth place and Wumger will go!!!

[Slacker]

It will take something pretty spectacular for us to relinquish the 4th place trophy. After today, you just never know. I'll dip my toe in and say we may be going to the last match again.

[Chippy]

It will take something pretty spectacular for us to relinquish the 4th place trophy. After today, you just never know. I'll dip my toe in and say we may be going to the last match again.
Fuck me! Does the weekend get any worse for footy! Those cunts from down the road come back from 2-0 down to win FFS! :(

[Letters]

Their next game is away at Liverpool.
They're not all that. Least of our worries.

[Chippy]

Their next game is away at Liverpool.
They're not all that. Least of our worries.
Good point letters but bloody annoying anyway! ;)

[IBK]

Fuck me! Does the weekend get any worse for footy! Those cunts from down the road come back from 2-0 down to win FFS! :(

The real head fuck is that we somehow now feel more embarrassed about our season than they do (mind you they are cunts, I suppose).

[cheesy bites]

I fucking told you.

Europa League here we come.

[adzzzbatch]

Thursday night is my pub quiz night though.

[The Verminator]

I'm still very confident we'll get 4th but it's sad that yet again we're resigned to that rather than pushing the leaders to the end from such a strong position.

[selassie]

I'm still very confident we'll get 4th but it's sad that yet again we're resigned to that rather than pushing the leaders to the end from such a strong position.

On current form I think we'll lose to both City and Everton, things are going to get very ugly if that happens. Top 4 is going to go to the wire IMHO.

[The Verminator]

On current form I think we'll lose to both City and Everton, things are going to get very ugly if that happens. Top 4 is going to go to the wire IMHO.

I agree with that analysis but still think we'll come out on top with more points than Everton or Spuds.

[Ollie the Optimist]

im not sure i could give a flying fuck anymore about the top four, it just sums up this season and epic bottle job that it is. everything should be focused on winning the cup.

[Marc Overmars]

Lead the way for half the season...get to March and wonder if we'll even finish 4th.

Only fucking Arsenal.

[Munchies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dK72AcPEpk

Anyone think this season would be any different ? :haha:

Look at the fans celebrating that, as good as a trophy tbf :coffee:

Race for 4th, ITS ON ! :scarf: . I'd rather battle it out with the Spuds agian though. I like Everton.

[Power n Glory]

The wheels are falling off and I'm seriously worried about our FA Cup chances if we can play like that.

[Niall_Quinn]

im not sure i could give a flying fuck anymore about the top four, it just sums up this season and epic bottle job that it is. everything should be focused on winning the cup.

However we manage to limp over the finish line top 4 is absolutely essential otherwise we'll get fucked just at the very moment it's possible to bring some key signings in. Whatever fans think of it, CL football is the goal for most clubs and players now. You aren't at the top of the game if you aren't in that. Even shite like Olympiacos scrape in.

[1_nilto the arsenal]

I have no doubt we will finish 4th. Just a sad end to a season that looked so promising and we all believed, but I guess we should have known that we would collapse, its in our DNA.

[AFC Leveller]

I have no doubt we will finish 4th. Just a sad end to a season that looked so promising and we all believed, but I guess we should have known that we would collapse, its in our DNA.

It's in Wenger's DNA more like.

I dont know how you can be confident we'll finish 4th? Everton are 6 behind with a game in hand (Palace at home) and wehave City up next and then Everton away next week.

when we beat Spuds i thought 4th wasnt a problem anymore but our last two results have brought evrton back in.

[I am invisible]

If anything can kick-start this club back into life, it'll be feeling that 4th place is under threat!

[Xhaka Can’t]

I fear that Everton will be a bigger threat than we have faced in the past.

Both of us have a fixture against Man City - neither of us are probably going to lost that one. But ask yourself this - who do you honestly believe has a better chance of getting anything out of it?

[pmakgreb]

the bookies have us at 1/5 which is a joke, i'd suggest you all lump on Everton at 9/2. Lets be honest here, City will beat us and Everton will beat fulham.

3 points behind with a game in hand. They then beat us and they are level with a game in hand.

Id say by the time we play Wigan we will be in 5th which in its own way may affect Wengers selection for the cup game as we play West ham 3 days later.

[Marc Overmars]

We'll probably fucking beat City knowing our precious 4th place is under threat.

[Bumble]

We'll probably fucking beat City knowing our precious 4th place is under threat.
More likely we beat Everton, can't see us beating city. They are focused unlike the Wigan performance. They just stuffed United in there own backyard and we have just been spanked and drawn to a last minute equaliser which required ricochets off three of our players to go in.

But if fourth is in danger, dread to think how he will treat the FA cup semi, if we don't have any players back from injury.

[Özim]

Kinda shocking that given our position a few months back we might now be in a fight for 4th place, we we miles away from 5th not so long ago!

Looking at the run in February and March though I could see a lot of points being dropped, our inability to perform against the top teams is a real achilles heel, I know people say you can win stuff without beating them but it's very rare that you do so.

[Bumble]

Just shows how quickly things change in football. Massive if we beaten Chelsea we would have beaten Swansea and you would fancy us at home to city too. Thus given us a great chance for the league. Smashed by Chelsea to add to the city and Liverpool debacles and the wheels come off so quickly.

[Letters]

The other two thumpings were followed by a draw and then a win.


It's on :cool:


:deluded:

[Chippy]

However we manage to limp over the finish line top 4 is absolutely essential otherwise we'll get fucked just at the very moment it's possible to bring some key signings in. Whatever fans think of it, CL football is the goal for most clubs and players now. You aren't at the top of the game if you aren't in that. Even shite like Olympiacos scrape in.

Liverpool did not qualify last year and they are having a good season and attracted some top players!

We need to finish outside the top 4 so that ******* resigns and we bring in a new Manager and new Coaching Staff (And of course, a new Medical Team!).

If we finish 4th, this nonsense will continue, I assure you.

[fakeyank]

Liverpool did not qualify last year and they are having a good season and attracted some top players!

We need to finish outside the top 4 so that ******* resigns and we bring in a new Manager and new Coaching Staff (And of course, a new Medical Team!).

If we finish 4th, this nonsense will continue, I assure you.

:gp:

Dont agree with the part of calling him a **** (as I am a mature person now) :geek:

But yes, we finish top 4, same shit different season will continue. If AW is going to resign, I hope we get 4th place. If not, I could give a fuck less if we get it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Liverpool did not qualify last year and they are having a good season and attracted some top players!

We need to finish outside the top 4 so that ******* resigns and we bring in a new Manager and new Coaching Staff (And of course, a new Medical Team!).

If we finish 4th, this nonsense will continue, I assure you.

Liverpool are having a great season, congrats to them. Then they need to have a great season next year, and the year after and the year after that. But will they? Big projects to come yet for Liverpool if they want sustained rather than sporadic success. All it will take is a swish of a chequebook to dismantle that team if they can't keep the players in the luxury they have become accustomed to. Athletico are doing great in Spain too, but they face all the same problems Liverpool face here. It's a bit like not being drowned by the first tidal wave and there's only seven more behind it. Liverpool will have to get some flood defences in if they want to stay above the likes of the chavs or the gypos on a consistent basis. That's what we have been doing and that's why CL football remains very important to our plans.

[Özim]

Liverpool are having a great season, congrats to them. Then they need to have a great season next year, and the year after and the year after that. But will they? Big projects to come yet for Liverpool if they want sustained rather than sporadic success. All it will take is a swish of a chequebook to dismantle that team if they can't keep the players in the luxury they have become accustomed to. Athletico are doing great in Spain too, but they face all the same problems Liverpool face here. It's a bit like not being drowned by the first tidal wave and there's only seven more behind it. Liverpool will have to get some flood defences in if they want to stay above the likes of the chavs or the gypos on a consistent basis. That's what we have been doing and that's why CL football remains very important to our plans.

We got our swish chequebook out last summer, didn't manage to dismantle their team however, the player has to be intent on leaving as well.

[Chippy]

:lol:[QUOTE=fakeyank;382971]:gp:

Dont agree with the part of calling him a **** (as I am a mature person now) :geek:

But yes, we finish top 4, same shit different season will continue. If AW is going to resign, I hope we get 4th place. If not, I could give a fuck less if we get it.[/QUOTE
:) I actually Typed the word "W u m g e r" so I was a bit confused why it was blanked out! LOL!

[Bumble]

Liverpool are having a great season, congrats to them. Then they need to have a great season next year, and the year after and the year after that. But will they? Big projects to come yet for Liverpool if they want sustained rather than sporadic success. All it will take is a swish of a chequebook to dismantle that team if they can't keep the players in the luxury they have become accustomed to. Athletico are doing great in Spain too, but they face all the same problems Liverpool face here. It's a bit like not being drowned by the first tidal wave and there's only seven more behind it. Liverpool will have to get some flood defences in if they want to stay above the likes of the chavs or the gypos on a consistent basis. That's what we have been doing and that's why CL football remains very important to our plans.

Liverpool are a massive club and despite not being in the CL been able to sign some good players. United wi'll be the same despite not being in the CL next year. We will be in that boat too. We are a massive club too, chavs and city throw money around but so do we but we have wasted millions on wages which always gets ignored when people talk about wengera frugal nature. Hence bendtner still being around, and players contracts having to be run for people to leave. At one point we were spending 1m more a week than spuds on salaries yet we finished the season only just ahead of them. That's not value for money.

People think it's some amazing achievement that we can compete against these money bag clubs but each game only 11 players can be on the pitch at one time and our budget is massive compared with about 90% of the division. We never overachieve, just do the bare minimum. If that's something to be proud of then fine but the fans pay the most money and should get something better in return.

The only advantage of the CL is the money, but we don't use the CL to attract players and the money is just used to pay the players and manager. If we fell out of the CL spots, it will not be a traumatic experience apart from playing Thursdays. There are enough revenue streams to cope with the loss and the sort of players we target will be joining arsenal for being arsenal not because we are playing CL football.

I do think we will finish 4th as don't think we will lose to Everton.

[-Xs-]

Players might start to turn up once that 4th place is under threat.

Need to make sure we have absolutely no mathematical chance of winning the league first though, so this one might be a close thing

[Munchies]

If Everton win their game in hand, they're one point behind..

They're playing us next week.

Shit.

Battle for fourth is on

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Relax.

We've got this.

[IBK]

Relax.

We've got this.

Yup. One thing this team can do is scrap for 4th. And in this context I mean this in a positive way.

[fakeyank]

Our specialist in failure will ensure his specialist touch by guiding us to 4th... I have no doubt in that.

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[Maestro]

every single thread on here has descended into a wenger in/out, pro/anti and associated fuckery

is anyone still modding on here :sulk:

[cheesy bites]

So that's a no then to this thread.

[Arsenaladdict]

Yup. One thing this team can do is scrap for 4th. And in this context I mean this in a positive way.


Thats what i said to spud mate who has us down to lose 2-1 today. Told him we always find a way to do it.

After that 1st half id say we're done. Woeful performance.

[Bumble]

yes but only just.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Probably squeeze into them in another last day decider.

[selassie]

It's out of our hands now.

I don't even know what to say, we've gone from title contenders to potential 5th place/dropping out of CL.

[hobson's choice]

We'll get it, not because we are better than Everton, but they still got United and City to play. We on the other hand, have a cupcake schedule, all our games are against teams that really have nothing to play for, other than maybe Norwich on the last day.

[Özim]

Still thing we'll get 4th, we barely deserve it based on our performances in the big games this season though, not really convinced there's been that much progress anymore this season, the attack has been poor and the defence has selectively fallen apart in some games.

[IBK]

Still thing we'll get 4th, we barely deserve it based on our performances in the big games this season though, not really convinced there's been that much progress anymore this season, the attack has been poor and the defence has selectively fallen apart in some games.

Mate. That is very restrained. Over the season there is, simply put, no evidence of progress. An illusion of progress? - Yes, at times. But with our defence now reverting to type - I can't see anything that constitutes real progress.

[Power n Glory]

We'll get it, not because we are better than Everton, but they still got United and City to play. We on the other hand, have a cupcake schedule, all our games are against teams that really have nothing to play for, other than maybe Norwich on the last day.

West Brom will be tough too. They're in the relegation scrap too. But yes, we have an easier schedule.

[Letters]

Mate. That is very restrained. Over the season there is, simply put, no evidence of progress. An illusion of progress? - Yes, at times. But with our defence now reverting to type - I can't see anything that constitutes real progress.
It's very disappointing. Even up to 5 games ago we were right in the mix of the title race but 13 points in 11 games at the business end is pathetic.
The defence has looked a lot better this year, we've got results in games where last year we were dropping points, but the capitulations away against the top 5 have been disgraceful and from a genuine title contender we're now scrapping around to stay in the top 4. I have a feeling we will do it but by now it should be way beyond doubt.

Only the FA Cup win would save this season now.

[IBK]

It's very disappointing. Even up to 5 games ago we were right in the mix of the title race but 13 points in 11 games at the business end is pathetic.
The defence has looked a lot better this year, we've got results in games where last year we were dropping points, but the capitulations away against the top 5 have been disgraceful and from a genuine title contender we're now scrapping around to stay in the top 4. I have a feeling we will do it but by now it should be way beyond doubt.

Only the FA Cup win would save this season now.

Mate. Your post does you credit. :clap: But IMHO the FA Cup will buy a modicum more patience. Nothing more.

[selassie]

This is the first time in a long time that I really feel we are going to drop out of the top 4. I realise Everton have got some difficult games but the momentum is really with them I think they (Everton) will drop points, but I think we will too.

[Letters]

Depends on us. It's not in our hands but all our games are winnable, Everton will drop points. As crap as we were yesterday hopefully the feelgood factor will give us a boost and we'll start picking ip results.

[Letters]

Still thing we'll get 4th, we barely deserve it based on our performances in the big games this season though.
That's neither here nor there. There are only a few big games, there are loads of more routine ones and over the course of a season you finish where you deserve to.

[Bumble]

Depends on us. It's not in our hands but all our games are winnable, Everton will drop points. As crap as we were yesterday hopefully the feelgood factor will give us a boost and we'll start picking ip results.
Every game is winnable though for Everton too. they have palace home next who now will stay up. fancy them to beat united who have nothing to play for. Its the city game but they only need to draw that. Everton don't need to win every game that might be the problem. They have a better goal difference and we are struggling to score at the moment so cant see that improving much.

It is Evertons to lose, but we cant play like we did yesterday and expect to beat teams. We couldn't beat Wigan like that, we will struggle to beat West Ham etc.

I do think we will still finish 4th but we don't beat West Ham on Tuesday and I think that would be it. I still think the pressure is on us more so than Everton as no one would expect Everton to be where they are and people still say that have a harder run in.

[Bumble]

That's neither here nor there. There are only a few big games, there are loads of more routine ones and over the course of a season you finish where you deserve to.
that's it though, you always deserve to finish where you finish, you play everyone twice over 9 months. to finish 4th you don't need to beat the big teams.... to win the league you do.

[Power n Glory]

Seeing how thin the squad look and bad we're performing, top 4 will be tight. Everton have a tough run but our squad is falling apart. West Ham on Tuesday and I don't know who Wenger will select. Giroud will start and he's like a blunt knife up front. They'll play a physical game and dropping deep, playing in front of the defence won't cut it. We'll need a big performance from him.

Ox will probably be rested. He looked like he hurt his hamstring during the game and was constantly stretching to keep going. No idea what shape the rest of the players will be in but Cazorla and Pod shouldn't be starting. I wouldn't risk Ramsey..we need some players back. We need Ozil and Jack back.

[Bumble]

Seeing how thin the squad look and bad we're performing, top 4 will be tight. Everton have a tough run but our squad is falling apart. West Ham on Tuesday and I don't know who Wenger will select. Giroud will start and he's like a blunt knife up front. They'll play a physical game and dropping deep, playing in front of the defence won't cut it. We'll need a big performance from him.

Ox will probably be rested. He looked like he hurt his hamstring during the game and was constantly stretching to keep going. No idea what shape the rest of the players will be in but Cazorla and Pod shouldn't be starting. I wouldn't risk Ramsey..we need some players back. We need Ozil and Jack back.
so that sounds like no ox, ramsey, pod and carzorla.... which would leave arteta in midfield along fatty kallstrom and that's it. we cant afford to rest players, we need ox and ramsey to play for the energy they provide even though they will be knackered.

[Power n Glory]

so that sounds like no ox, ramsey, pod and carzorla.... which would leave arteta in midfield along fatty kallstrom and that's it. we cant afford to rest players, we need ox and ramsey to play for the energy they provide even though they will be knackered.

Ox may be injured and I don't even want to risk Ramsey getting injured again. We're spread thin. Cazorla and Pod have been playing poorly and really shouldn't be playing but we have no choice. I'm hoping Rosicky is back. But it doesn't solve the winger problem. Wenger needs to buy a winger as well as a striker in the summer.

[AFC Leveller]

The reason i dont think we'll get 4th NOW is because we are up against a team who look confident and seem to be picking up points home and away. Not to mention they won the 6 pointer last week. In years gone by we've been up against Spurs and they'd more often than not bottle it but Everton dont look like they'll bottle it + they can afford to draw one of their last 5 (probably City) so we really are up against it.

[Marc Overmars]

With the way we're playing I'd say we're unlikely to finish 4th. We really need to sort our lives out.

[Özim]

With the way we're playing I'd say we're unlikely to finish 4th. We really need to sort our lives out.

It's shocking that we're in a fight for 4th now to be honest, we're pretty much in the same boat as last season,we've just taken a different route to it.

I'm disappointed with what I see as a lack of progress and on top of that the spankings we've had to endure which have just been an embarrassment but have seemingly been written off as a bad day at the office by the manager.

[Niall_Quinn]

If we get a bit of luck on the injury front we'll be okay. Of course, since when did we have a bit of luck on the injury front? It was a bloody sin to lose the game against Everton.

[Chippy]

It's shocking that we're in a fight for 4th now to be honest, we're pretty much in the same boat as last season,we've just taken a different route to it.

I'm disappointed with what I see as a lack of progress and on top of that the spankings we've had to endure which have just been an embarrassment but have seemingly been written off as a bad day at the office by the manager.
If Wenger had bought in January, we could have been challenging for the title. Instead, we look like missing out on fourth. Not that bothered to be honest, if we get fourth, Wenger stays!

[IBK]

It's shocking that we're in a fight for 4th now to be honest, we're pretty much in the same boat as last season,we've just taken a different route to it.

I'm disappointed with what I see as a lack of progress and on top of that the spankings we've had to endure which have just been an embarrassment but have seemingly been written off as a bad day at the office by the manager.

In truth - despite yesterday's scrape through - this Arsenal team looks even more toothless than most of our recent incarnations. I am genuinely concerned that we can't finish fourth.

[Marc Overmars]

If we don't win on Tuesday then it's likely to be a real struggle. I know Everton have the trickier looking fixtures but we have no momentum so 'on paper' projections mean little.

Hopefully getting the cup final in the bank gives us the confidence back.

[GP]

Sincerely yours,

The Breakfast Club.

[AFC Leveller]

It's shocking that we're in a fight for 4th now to be honest, we're pretty much in the same boat as last season,we've just taken a different route to it.

I'm disappointed with what I see as a lack of progress and on top of that the spankings we've had to endure which have just been an embarrassment but have seemingly been written off as a bad day at the office by the manager.

Yep, its now clear that we havent made any real progress. We looked good up until December but when it really mattered, we were found wanting again and the lack of winning mentality + threat upfront cost us. That Liverpool loss was the beginning of the end, the way we were dismantled was embarrassing and not only did it derail us, it also gave Liverpool so much confidence and they've been on a winning run since.

The only bit of progres we have made is in the cup where we've beaten 3 good sides but we still havent won it yet and thngs could turn even uglier if we loss to Hull.

[Zerlathon]

It's probably been my most frustrating season as an Arsenal Fan, as we showed so much promise throughout the majority of the Season only to implode completely when it really mattered. We are now having to depend on Everton messing it up and us having a flawless finish (given their form and ours, it's a little hard to imagine).

I can imagine myself chewing my fingers off (let alone the nails) as the season comes ever closer to finishing.

[Letters]

I don't think Everton dropping points against City or Utd (who, for all their wobbles, have an excellent away record) would be them messing it up.
They've won 7 in a row, if they win 12 in a row then fine, well done them. I don't think they will though.
It's only a couple of points, we have to win tomorrow though.

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder if Utd would be willing to loan Moyes back to Everton for the run-in? Good for Utd, good for us.

I'd be 100% confident of overhauling a Moyes Everton. It's 50/50 trying to peg back a non-Moyes variant.

[pakgunner]

It's probably been my most frustrating season as an Arsenal Fan, as we showed so much promise throughout the majority of the Season only to implode completely when it really mattered. We are now having to depend on Everton messing it up and us having a flawless finish (given their form and ours, it's a little hard to imagine).

I can imagine myself chewing my fingers off (let alone the nails) as the season comes ever closer to finishing. I would say the 07/08 season was the most frustrating, 9 games remaining and 8 points clear at the top then the Eduardo injury and the rest is history. This campaign in truth we were world class only in a handful of games, besides the fact that we defended well against the lower teams we were totally demolished against all our main rivals. When Wenger refused to buy in January it had a negative impact on a team that needed a boost in energy and quality yet we ended up with a player that was injured, the writing was on the wall you could see the performance and disappointment on the players despite calling for backup, but as usual the board and Wenger always ignore the players hints and suggestions. I really hope Wenger just resigns and lets a younger and more pro-active manager take over( klopp or simeone would be perfect).

[IBK]

I would say the 07/08 season was the most frustrating, 9 games remaining and 8 points clear at the top then the Eduardo injury and the rest is history. This campaign in truth we were world class only in a handful of games, besides the fact that we defended well against the lower teams we were totally demolished against all our main rivals. When Wenger refused to buy in January it had a negative impact on a team that needed a boost in energy and quality yet we ended up with a player that was injured, the writing was on the wall you could see the performance and disappointment on the players despite calling for backup, but as usual the board and Wenger always ignore the players hints and suggestions. I really hope Wenger just resigns and lets a younger and more pro-active manager take over( klopp or simeone would be perfect).

Good season summary.

[Power n Glory]

I think this season is worse. We had the 07/08 season there as a reminder but we repeated the same mistakes. It's worse because we went into the season knowing we were short on players. This one makes me sour because I'm looking at Liverpool and thinking that should be us up there. I knew this season Chelsea and City wouldn't be firing on all cylinders and we'd have a chance.

[fakeyank]

I would say the 07/08 season was the most frustrating, 9 games remaining and 8 points clear at the top then the Eduardo injury and the rest is history. This campaign in truth we were world class only in a handful of games, besides the fact that we defended well against the lower teams we were totally demolished against all our main rivals. When Wenger refused to buy in January it had a negative impact on a team that needed a boost in energy and quality yet we ended up with a player that was injured, the writing was on the wall you could see the performance and disappointment on the players despite calling for backup, but as usual the board and Wenger always ignore the players hints and suggestions. I really hope Wenger just resigns and lets a younger and more pro-active manager take over( klopp or simeone would be perfect).

07/08 still makes me cry. Eduardo was also one of my favorite players.. a natural striker. :crying:

This season is worse because we should have learnt our lesson from before! Yet, everyone knew what was going to happen.

[Letters]

If we win the FA Cup then this season is better. Clearly.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7-ji5V70zU

[AFC Leveller]

07/08 still makes me cry. Eduardo was also one of my favorite players.. a natural striker. :crying:

This season is worse because we should have learnt our lesson from before! Yet, everyone knew what was going to happen.

We had a chance to win that Brum game where Adebayory was clean through on goal with Bendtner to his side but he shot and missed. We also lost to Chelsea and Man ure narrowly (both 2-1 and we lead both games).

This season is different because whenever we've gone to a rivals
s ground we've either looked scared (Man u, Man city) or been completly dominated (Chelsea, Liverpool) and that makes it a lot worse.

[fakeyank]

We had a chance to win that Brum game where Adebayory was clean through on goal with Bendtner to his side but he shot and missed. We also lost to Chelsea and Man ure narrowly (both 2-1 and we lead both games).

This season is different because whenever we've gone to a rivals
s ground we've either looked scared (Man u, Man city) or been completly dominated (Chelsea, Liverpool) and that makes it a lot worse.

I still cannot forget Clichy for running away from the ball before we conceded that penalty.

[Marc Overmars]

If we win the FA Cup then this season is better. Clearly.

As long as we finish 4th as well.

[Letters]

As long as we finish 4th as well.
Not so sure about that really. We need the trophy more than we need another CL qualification.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not so sure about that really. We need the trophy more than we need another CL qualification.

Need both and we should be getting both given the size of the club in comparison to those we are up against. Chips are down, manager, players, time to get it done.

[Marc Overmars]

Not so sure about that really. We need the trophy more than we need another CL qualification.

It's the minimum objective.

4th + Cup = good.

Anything else is a flop really.

[Heisenberg]

If we win all our remaining games this season, I think that would result in 4th as well as the cup, because Everton have a tougher run in, which means they're more likely to drop points.

Unfortunately this means cheering on the Manchester clubs :sick:

[selassie]

If we win all our remaining games this season, I think that would result in 4th as well as the cup, because Everton have a tougher run in, which means they're more likely to drop points.

Unfortunately this means cheering on the Manchester clubs :sick:

They have Southampton away too...though not entirely convinced Everton will drop points there. I actually think United might be the only game they drop points in, got this feeling Everton are going to beat City.

We need to win our remaining games, and win them well, because we have inferior goal difference to them too which is a worry. We are -6 to them at the moment.

[AFC Leveller]

I still cannot forget Clichy for running away from the ball before we conceded that penalty.

Typical Clichy lapse.

That season's team was far superior to this one though because not only did we play very good football but we also stood up to Chelsea and Man ure who both had insane teams. Ronaldo, Rooney, Vidic, Ferdinand, Tevez, Scholes, Hargreaves etc all at their pomp while the chavs has Terry, Drogba, Essien, Cole, Lampard et. (both made it to the CL final too).

The same issues that we had then are still very much alive and kicking today in terms of lack of winners, lack of real leaders and inability to produce when it counts.

[Grebbo]

How many times has Everton won 5 games in a row in the last 10yrs? Not often I would't have thought.

I'm sure they'll lose one of their last 5 games.

I'm also sure we'll lose one of our games, I wouldn't even bet on us beating Hull!

Therefore I think this is the year that we'll miss out. Really hope I'm wrong. The only consolation being we didn't miss out to Spurs!

[AFC Leveller]

Everton have won their last 5 or 6 i think so they have the ability. They can afford to draw one of their games and still finish above us if we win all our games as their goal difference is suprior to ours (that 3-0 defeat was HUGELY important and we're paying for not turning up).

Hull away this weekend is potentially tricky and we dont travel well up north these days, not to mention they'll be on a high following their win in the semis.

Gonna be though and if i was to stick my neck on the line i'd say Everton will get 4th and we'll lose or draw either to Hull or Norwich.

[Letters]

I don't think Everton will win 12 in a row. If they do then fair play to them and there's nothing they can do.
Would be surprised if they drop points tonight but I fancy Utd to get something off them at the weekend and City should be able to get something too.
If we do our bit (big if!) I think we'll be OK.

[Özim]

I think we'll finish 4th, but IMO Everton haven't been that great this season and the fact we're somehow in a fight for 4th with them reflects very badly on our performance especially after our good start.

[Marc Overmars]

Back in our hands.

Win against Hull and hopefully Moyes does us a favour this weekend.

[selassie]

Back in our hands.

Win against Hull and hopefully Moyes does us a favour this weekend.

Aye, if we win the next 2 and Everton drop points against the Manchester clubs then it's pretty much done. Saying that, City's seasons is pretty much over so I don't think they will get anything at Everton.

[Özim]

I'm not surprised, Everton are an average team, we've been in a battle for 4th with them however which also kinda shows our level. As I said before fully expect us to get 4th, doesn't prove much though.

[Letters]

:lol:

Never mind :console:

[dazthegooner]

Well we should finish forth as has been said in our hands now' and apart from Walcott our main players are back ish even Diaby is doing his bit by offering to help cut the half time oranges.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Delighted to get home and see that Pulis has done it again!. Got to hand it to him. Perhaps we were wrong to frown upon managers who head butt their players in their birthday suit in the shower.

Everton have been marvellous by their own standards and have done it being positive in their play, on a limited budget with a relatively small squad. Their first choice CB is 35 years old for goodness sake! Convinced he bartered with a cross road demon. We shouldn't be competing with their like at the moment but in fairness we have been competing for the league for longer than we have been competing for fourth. Doesn't excuse the downturn though....

[AFC Leveller]

YES.

[LDG]

Yep.

[GP]

Never in doubt.

[Letters]

No chance. Everton are better than us and have better strikers than us



:coffee:

[Letters]

I fucking told you.

Europa League here we come.
So you did :d

[AFC Leveller]

Yes.

[Marc Overmars]

Progress

[AFC Leveller]

I have to say that last summer after seeing Spuds spunk all that money i thought we were gonna finish outside the top for sure but then we went on a great run and capitulated like never before so 4th is very bitter sweet right now.

[LDG]

I fear for us next year.

[Niall_Quinn]

Won't get 4th next year - no chance.

Champions all the way (now get the fucking chequebook out, dust it off, get it converted to the decimal system and spend some fucking money)

[LDG]

Disgusting how the players are celabrating at home, or with their friends, or in their cars, speeding, drunk, with a gay, whilst also looking grumpy an considering their furture, and giving the club and ultimatum, but also focused on the world cup, but focusing on the next game, but may not play the final

Disgusting.

[dazthegooner]

No! A WBA Player who is a secret Everton fan will start a 22 man brawl we get the blame and are deducted 50 points and relegated :(

[AKBapologist]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bmu4AmwIgAAE8id.jpg

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Relax.

We've got this.

:gp:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Never in doubt.....bring on next seasons regular dose of heartburn

[Grebbo]

4th with two games to go and not the usual heart attack final day.

Easy.