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saintnickle
12-04-2014, 01:00 PM
To be fair the point I was making is that 120million doesn't buy you a lot, if you consider Ozil transfer fee, wages and add ons you aren't left with a lot of change. So it wouldn't be hard to suppose that money is being spent on that, not all at once but being ear marked for that. Ill grant you I'm speculating but you seem to be reaching because its too hard to accept that you can't compete as both a football club and a business

If you get rid of 3 players who are on say 70k a week each the 120million buys you 3 40million pound players .So say we get rid of bendtner ,diaby and podolski we could in theory buy 3 world class players and cover their wages.

Özim
12-04-2014, 01:03 PM
This squad can be and should be culled dramatically in the summer IMO, that will free up more money for new signings.

Bendtner, Park, Fabianski are definitely gone maybe even Vermaelen.

I'd also get rid of Monreal, Jenkinson, Diaby, Miyachi, Sanogo, Giroud personally, maybe even Arteta and at a push Wilshere.

That way we can rebuild and put a decent squad together.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
12-04-2014, 01:15 PM
Jf
If you get rid of 3 players who are on say 70k a week each the 120million buys you 3 40million pound players .So say we get rid of bendtner ,diaby and podolski we could in theory buy 3 world class players and cover their wages.

But then your having to cover the transfer fee, Bendtner is leaving on a free, Diaby has Aids of the knee and Podolski how much are you going to get for him.
And you think you are going to be able to sign three decent players to replace them without raising the bill higher than it was before hand?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
12-04-2014, 01:18 PM
You can't get better players in to replace the rubbish because they will all want to be on the same or better wages as the decent players you still have at the club.
You can try it anyway you like, it's not a Rubix cube it doesn't work. You can't run a football club as a business and expect to challenge

Power n Glory
12-04-2014, 01:55 PM
We receive an extra £50m or so in revenue from the TV and commercial deals annually, that goes towards the player wage bill along with the salaries we've cleared off the books from player exits, £120 in cash for actual transfers. Why is that so complicated?

You don't pay for wages from the savings!

fari
12-04-2014, 07:34 PM
This squad can be and should be culled dramatically in the summer IMO, that will free up more money for new signings.

Bendtner, Park, Fabianski are definitely gone maybe even Vermaelen.

I'd also get rid of Monreal, Jenkinson, Diaby, Miyachi, Sanogo, Giroud personally, maybe even Arteta and at a push Wilshere.

That way we can rebuild and put a decent squad together.


Sanogo is one for the future. he has the tools but with a little confidence he can be something. You saw the way Wenger went and talked to him at half time. I'd keep OG as a backup to another striker. jenks i'd give one more season and then make a decision. As someone else said though this stuff isn't alchemy, no one has the magic formula...case in point look at pool this season, no one expected them to be where they are.

IBK
12-04-2014, 08:19 PM
You can't get better players in to replace the rubbish because they will all want to be on the same or better wages as the decent players you still have at the club.
You can try it anyway you like, it's not a Rubix cube it doesn't work. You can't run a football club as a business and expect to challenge

Mate. I agree emphatically that clubs like Citeh and the Chavs have a financial edge over us that we cannot bridge - however hard we try to run a successful commercial operation. There could be no more justifiable reason for our lack of success. But I think the real issue here - and the one that has worn many Gooners down, is that we could have done more these part few years with what we have had. And this season more than any other has shown that we are if anything regressing in terms of the efficacy of Wenger's methods. I for one believe that it is the manager's shortcomings, rather than our rivals' riches, that have sunk us this season. I know that you share many of the same frustrations on the playing side. And this is why I feel that finances have become a smokescreen hiding where we are going wrong under Wenger - and are really a different argument.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
12-04-2014, 09:33 PM
Mate. I agree emphatically that clubs like Citeh and the Chavs have a financial edge over us that we cannot bridge - however hard we try to run a successful commercial operation. There could be no more justifiable reason for our lack of success. But I think the real issue here - and the one that has worn many Gooners down, is that we could have done more these part few years with what we have had. And this season more than any other has shown that we are if anything regressing in terms of the efficacy of Wenger's methods. I for one believe that it is the manager's shortcomings, rather than our rivals' riches, that have sunk us this season. I know that you share many of the same frustrations on the playing side. And this is why I feel that finances have become a smokescreen hiding where we are going wrong under Wenger - and are really a different argument.

It could be the fact that I'm mentally exhausted after watching the FA cup semi mind and experiencing the full gamut of emotions there are to be had, but can't really disagree with you

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
12-04-2014, 09:37 PM
Sanogo is one for the future. he has the tools but with a little confidence he can be something. You saw the way Wenger went and talked to him at half time. I'd keep OG as a backup to another striker. jenks i'd give one more season and then make a decision. As someone else said though this stuff isn't alchemy, no one has the magic formula...case in point look at pool this season, no one expected them to be where they are.

I'd like to be proved wrong as I want every Arsenal player to succeed, and I'm developing a soft spot for this lad because you have to respect someone who tries. But I just don't see he has the technical ability to match his enthusiasm and work rate. Again I repeat I hope I'm wrong, because I really like him

IBK
12-04-2014, 10:00 PM
It could be the fact that I'm mentally exhausted after watching the FA cup semi mind and experiencing the full gamut of emotions there are to be had, but can't really disagree with you

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