The Welbz Thread (official)

[milla]

Even if Welbeck turns out to be a bad player its just what we deserve.

The fans hounded out Gervinho and now hes one of the best in Europe.

Still not sure why we sold Gervinho, he is an excellent wide forward. Very unpredictable footballer IMO.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Gervinho shite here

Goes Roma and turns into a beast

Mismanagement.

[I am invisible]

I'm glad Gervinho's doing well for himself, but I can't say I miss him either - one of those rare cease where his move to Roma has probably worked out well for everyone. Good luck to him though...

[AFC Leveller]

Gervinho shite here

Goes Roma and turns into a beast

Mismanagement.

Bischof was injured and out of a job.

He came here, earned money and became fit.

Great management by Wenger.

[I am invisible]

One positive thing about Welbeck is the number of pot shots he's been taking in and around the area. OK, he hasn't pulled them off yet but he's showing that little bit of selfishness and hunger for goals you need in a striker.
He's got good instincts, in terms of making the right runs at the right times - if he stays positive, and keeps getting in the right places, then the goals will come. I really don't think he needs to do too much more than calm things down a bit when he's about to pull the trigger?

I never thought I'd be holding Özil up as an example of how to finish, but he should be looking at Özil's goal as a good example to follow. Improving his finishing doesn't necessarily mean he has to drastically improve his shooting technique and accuracy - it can just mean going for the simple option, and almost passing the ball into the net, and I really can't see that it would take much work to get him doing that...

[adzzzbatch]

I'm just gonna leave this here:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/1355257750059.gif

[GP]

I'm just gonna leave this here:

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/1355257750059.gif

Clear mismanagement

[Xhaka Can’t]

:haha: it was comical, the opportunities he missed for us. He got great service, but no matter how much he had handed to him on a plate, he could be relied upon to completely fuck it up.

[AFC Leveller]

Clear mismanagement

He scored....himself.

[GP]

He scored....himself.

He's not completely over the line.

Hawkeyes says... no goal.

[AFC Leveller]

He's got good instincts, in terms of making the right runs at the right times - if he stays positive, and keeps getting in the right places, then the goals will come. I really don't think he needs to do too much more than calm things down a bit when he's about to pull the trigger?

I never thought I'd be holding Özil up as an example of how to finish, but he should be looking at Özil's goal as a good example to follow. Improving his finishing doesn't necessarily mean he has to drastically improve his shooting technique and accuracy - it can just mean going for the simple option, and almost passing the ball into the net, and I really can't see that it would take much work to get him doing that...

I've seen some of misses and he seems to like that dink over the keeper in one on one situations. It works when the goaly is off his line but a lot of time the GK knows what Wellbeck will do. I'd prefer him to actually go for a real finish and build confidence from that.

[I am invisible]

I've seen some of misses and he seems to like that dink over the keeper in one on one situations. It works when the goaly is off his line but a lot of time the GK knows what Wellbeck will do. I'd prefer him to actually go for a real finish and build confidence from that.
I just keep thinking of the way Henry used to finish for us. You'd rarely see him hitting the ball at a hundred miles an hour off his laces into the only spot he could possibly place it in - most of the time, he'd use some variation of a side-foot, whether he was opening his body up to bend it round the keeper, or simply rolling it underneath them as they rushed towards him, and he scored goals for fun like that. Not all successful strikers have to be super-sharp-shooters, who can flash a ball into the net with half a chance - others can be more about clever use of momentum and movement, and using that to fashion more straightforward chances for themselves that don't require such incredible finishes? This is the direction I think we should be pushing Welbeck towards...

[I am invisible]

97% pass completion rate against Villa, apparently? That's fucking impressive for a CF...

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

97% pass completion rate against Villa, apparently? That's fucking impressive for a CF...

Gazidis :bow:

[Letters]

:patrice:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Gazidis :bow: :bow:

[LDG]

Fanny Welshit

[Marc Overmars]

New Wrighty, I'm telling you.

[Maestro]

:d smile danny, smile

[Niall_Quinn]

The Caf


Whenever I see this bumped I either assume he has scored or fallen over in comical fashion. Which is it this time?


He's scored a hat-trick.

:haha:

[LDG]

Someone tell me we're not signing Wellbeck, because if we do let's all shut up shop and give up the guy couldn't score if you paid a hooker to do him.

What a terrible terrible signing he would be, don't know what would posess anyone to sign this sorry excuse for a footballer, on the brightside Sanogo will have someone to at least on a par with him when it comes to missing the target.


Quite right.

[BOBN]

I'm in mourning for the 16million we've pissed down the drain
:pal:

Tell us more about football, o wise one :bow:

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Herbert :haha:

You've had a shocking week pal.

[LDG]

How long til Wenget converts him into a left winger?

[Letters]

How long til Wenget converts him into a left winger?

If Sanogo is fit on Sunday then Welbeck will be dropped for him. Nailed on certainty.

http://kopnijbiegnij.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Wenger-laughing.jpg

[Master Splinter]

6 in 6 for club and country for Welbz. :bow:

His Smile :bow:.

[Marc Overmars]

Athlete ball strikers. :bow:

[AKBapologist]

Welbeck 4... Falcao 0.

Had to be said tbh.


And Zim. :lol:

[GP]

Imagine if Welbz score more than Falcoa this season :lol:

I mean, you don't have to imagine because it's definitely happening, but still :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Signing a crock journeyman and selling a young, athletic player with scope to improve.

Genius!

[AFC Leveller]

No disrespect to Giroud but he would have never scored those goals.

Dat pace and power!

[pakgunner]

No disrespect to Giroud but he would have never scored those goals.

Dat pace and power!
Giroud has never scored a competitive hat-trick at Arsenal let alone a champions league game. Only once against Vietnam 11.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Vietnam :lol:

[Power n Glory]

Fantastic finishing from the kid. Was sceptical at first but the goals he scored, the last in particular, were just clinical. As adapts more to our style, he’ll get more goals.

[selassie]

I really like him. I think his all round game is already really decent and he geniunely links up well with the other attacking players. His finishing last night was superb.

There is definitely room for improvement and I hope he keeps on developing because we could potentially have a gem on our hands here.

[Globalgunner]

He scores when he wants…
He scores when he waaaaaants…
Danny Welbeck, he scores when he wants…
He scores when he wants…
And he’s not a cuuuuuunt….
Danny Welbeck…
He scores when he wants!

[I am invisible]

Wel happy with Danny's goals last night - that was exactly what I wanted to see from him...


He's got good instincts, in terms of making the right runs at the right times - if he stays positive, and keeps getting in the right places, then the goals will come. I really don't think he needs to do too much more than calm things down a bit when he's about to pull the trigger?

I never thought I'd be holding Özil up as an example of how to finish, but he should be looking at Özil's goal as a good example to follow. Improving his finishing doesn't necessarily mean he has to drastically improve his shooting technique and accuracy - it can just mean going for the simple option, and almost passing the ball into the net, and I really can't see that it would take much work to get him doing that...


I just keep thinking of the way Henry used to finish for us. You'd rarely see him hitting the ball at a hundred miles an hour off his laces into the only spot he could possibly place it in - most of the time, he'd use some variation of a side-foot, whether he was opening his body up to bend it round the keeper, or simply rolling it underneath them as they rushed towards him, and he scored goals for fun like that. Not all successful strikers have to be super-sharp-shooters, who can flash a ball into the net with half a chance - others can be more about clever use of momentum and movement, and using that to fashion more straightforward chances for themselves that don't require such incredible finishes? This is the direction I think we should be pushing Welbeck towards...

...get your movement and timing right, and most of the time all you'll ever have to do is poke it home, or roll it under/around the keeper, like you're making a pass...

[Marc Overmars]

get your movement and timing right, and most of the time all you'll ever have to do is poke it home, or roll it under/around the keeper, like you're making a pass...

Exactly. Finishing can always be improved if given time but the first thing a striker needs is to put himself about and get into promising positions, otherwise there's never an opportunity to score. There's a reason why Podolski doesn't play despite being one of the best finishers we have and it's because he's a sloth who offers no movement.

[Gooner23]

I know Gala's defence was dreadful but was so good to see a player making runs in behind for a change. Alexis and Chamberlain were doing it as well. We haven't had that for a long time.

[LDG]

Any Utd meltdown's after Welbz tonked it?

[sibreen]

Also, Welbeck > Balotelli

Rodgers :pal:

[Master Splinter]

Welbeck hits the post against Citeh and it's 'Wayward Welbeck' from McNumpty: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29192068.

Scores a hat-trick in the CL and not a peep from McLOLty. He was reporting on the game too.

Not that you should be posting one of your rubbish, uninformative, pointless articles after every game. But you can't criticise a guy for narrowly missing the target one week and then fail to highlight his excellence another. Journalism :bow:.

[Niall_Quinn]

Any Utd meltdown's after Welbz tonked it?

Seriously massive. Welbz thread on cafe is split into three camps. The "He's still shit and Falcao will score eventually" camp, the "told you we should never have sold him, especially to Arsenal, and so what if I cheer his goals" camp, and the "come on guys, can we all just be friends" cunts.

[Marc Overmars]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By4vaAdIYAEtSDI.jpg:large

[I am invisible]

Seriously massive. Welbz thread on cafe is split into three camps. The "He's still shit and Falcao will score eventually" camp, the "told you we should never have sold him, especially to Arsenal, and so what if I cheer his goals" camp, and the "come on guys, can we all just be friends" cunts.

There's also a 4th "Welbeck forced the move and we had no choice but to let him go" camp, which absolves them of any kind of responsibility for anything, even having an opinion...

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I'm not quite comfortable with singing....'he scores when he wants'.....but happy to see him go from strength to strength and to see fans get on his side considering the hysteria at the prospect of signing him shortly before we did.

[Syn]

Watching one of those player highlight vids on youtube, Welbeck's performance really was as close to a 10/10 complete CF performance that you could get. Won't be particularly memorable because although it was against CL opposition, Galatasary were very disorganised. When asked about if he had learned anything new about Welbeck since he joined, Wenger said he was surprised by his finishing ability, his technical ability and his pace. I'd add movement to that. He didn't get played much as a CF at Man Utd but the movement and runs he is making shows a real striker's instinct. In every aspect really - his touch, pace, strength...he's showing greater potential than he did at Man Utd. And that's not just down to biased opinions - Welbeck's using the momentum of joining a new club and the confidence of playing regularly in his favoured position.

Since the move, he has got 2 goals for England, 4 goals in 5 games for Arsenal (hit the inside of the post against Man City too) and his general game looks very good. The most exciting thing about it is that because he's surprising people with his technique and athleticism, we're yet to be able to judge what his ceiling is. Obviously he still has it all to do but the early indication is he's ready to become a top player.

[Injury Time]

Watching one of those player highlight vids on youtube, Welbeck's performance really was as close to a 10/10 complete CF performance that you could get. Won't be particularly memorable because although it was against CL opposition, Galatasary were very disorganised. When asked about if he had learned anything new about Welbeck since he joined, Wenger said he was surprised by his finishing ability, his technical ability and his pace. I'd add movement to that. He didn't get played much as a CF at Man Utd but the movement and runs he is making shows a real striker's instinct. In every aspect really - his touch, pace, strength...he's showing greater potential than he did at Man Utd. And that's not just down to biased opinions - Welbeck's using the momentum of joining a new club and the confidence of playing regularly in his favoured position.

Since the move, he has got 2 goals for England, 4 goals in 5 games for Arsenal (hit the inside of the post against Man City too) and his general game looks very good. The most exciting thing about it is that because he's surprising people with his technique and athleticism, we're yet to be able to judge what his ceiling is. Obviously he still has it all to do but the early indication is he's ready to become a top player.

Wenger will soon train that out of him or our staff will cripple him :rose:, perhaps Wenger try playing players in their best positions and get a few more surprises?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well this is going to go down well...

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150903/danny-welbeck-undergoes-knee-surgery

WUMger. :bow:

[PGFC]

Mmm, maybe the thread should be renamed The UnWelbz Thread.

Never mind, He'll be like a new signing in January instead.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The thing is...it's just so cynical. It says on there the decision was taken last week to go for surgery yet we just happen to announe this after the transfer window has closed.

Arseholes.

[Gooner23]

Thats a piss take by the club.

[PGFC]

Cynical? clubs have just spent £865 million for a few footballers contracts in the middle of Europe's largest humanitarian crisis since WW2, I think I'm losing heart with football altogether.

[Marc Overmars]

WUMger has got one over us all.

Again.

[selassie]

I Knew he was badly crocked, the silence was deafening.

[Niall_Quinn]

Cynical? clubs have just spent £865 million for a few footballers contracts in the middle of Europe's largest humanitarian crisis since WW2, I think I'm losing heart with football altogether.

Didn't you know it trickles down? The richer the rich become the more everyone benefits. Surely you have noticed?

[PGFC]

Oh yes, thanks for that, were would we be without your wit and wisdom, bless you :good:

[adzzzbatch]

Oh FFS! :rolleyes:

This club really takes the piss.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well at least he'll become a much better player while he's out injured. And if he's due back in February then we all know what happens come the January transfer window.

[Ollie the Optimist]

if the club had any sense of humour, they would have announced this decision at 6.01pm on tuesday

[fakeyank]

Look at the bright side.. when he returns, he will be like a new signing.

[Bumble]

Well at least he'll become a much better player while he's out injured. And if he's due back in February then we all know what happens come the January transfer window.

The Gilberto effect as I like to call it.

So up front is now a choice of Theo or Giroud. Still prefer Theo. Perhaps we should focus on defending and counterattacking at speed with Theo, Sanchez and the Ox as the front three.

[Master Splinter]

https://redlondon.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/wenger-smiling.jpg


http://www.wengerball.com/wp-content/uploads/wenger-smiles.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/20/article-2608972-1D3948B800000578-143_634x424.jpg


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[Bumble]

if the club had any sense of humour, they would have announced this decision at 6.01pm on tuesday

I don't know... although the deadline was 6pm I think clubs had an extra couple of hours before it properly closed. As I think there were announcements after 6pm.

[alexander]

Shame.
Out of the choice of Welbeck and Theo, I would go with Welbeck all day. Nearly as quick, but works much harder, is stronger, and a (slightly, albeit still cack) better chance of putting the ball in the net.
if they did know last week, then it makes not getting another striker in a massive, massive error.

[Injury Time]

At least we've sorted the Diaby replacement then :trophy: :rose:

[Kano]

Giroud and Theo our strikers :lol:

[Alpha]

Injury to Wellbeck gives more chance to Campbell . The boy has talent but never been given fair chance to show it .We couldn't get what we wished ( Benzema ) so I wouldn't mind seeing Campbell in action a little bit more .

[Power n Glory]

Injury to Wellbeck gives more chance to Campbell . The boy has talent but never been given fair chance to show it .We couldn't get what we wished ( Benzema ) so I wouldn't mind seeing Campbell in action a little bit more .

He has potential and should be given a chance.

[fakeyank]

Injury to Wellbeck gives more chance to Campbell . The boy has talent but never been given fair chance to show it .We couldn't get what we wished ( Benzema ) so I wouldn't mind seeing Campbell in action a little bit more .

:gp:

May be this will work out the same way Coquelin worked out for us. We know our manager doesnt have the intelligence for things like this, unless forced upon.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

He has potential and should be given a chance.

My thinking is if that l'ouiseau doesn't automatically start someone who he has given a 140k a week contract to he's even less likely to hand a chance to someone he's tried to get with.
Coquelin is an outlier....expect to see Giroud, Walcott and Sanchez beasted.

[Power n Glory]

My thinking is if that l'ouiseau doesn't automatically start someone who he has given a 140k a week contract to he's even less likely to hand a chance to someone he's tried to get with.
Coquelin is an outlier....expect to see Giroud, Walcott and Sanchez beasted.

True and it's worry that Coquelin was on his way out the door before injury problem and fortune brought him into the first team. It's all good Wenger saying if he cost £40m people would say he's a great signing but he needs to take a look in the mirror on that one. Was he close to giving away £40m? Someone needs to question him on that.

With Campbell, I think he needs a fair run in the team and it won't happen. An odd League Cup game won't cut it. But he also needs to have an amazing game that gets attention and that's not always possible.