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Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
26-02-2015, 11:30 PM
In lieu of last night's laughably bad performance against the team that was the easiest draw for us in the competition, it would seem churlish not to put it into some kind of perspective or at least just make it an excuse to make a list of the worst individual humiliations this club has suffered under Wenger.


I am going to produce a top 40 list.....(as i don't think ten would be sufficient) of shockingly bad defeats...this is going to be chronological order so as not to give any humiliation priority over another.


40) Arsenal 0-5 Chelsea (League cup 11 November 1998)
It was a reserve side that was fielded, but to be taken apart so comprehensively by London Rivals still a very big embarrassment


39) Spartak Moscow 4-1 Arsenal (Champions League 22 Nov 2000)
We may have got to the quarter finals for the first time under Wenger that season, still didn't prevent us being completely turned over by average opposition on the way.


38) Man United 6-1 Arsenal (Premier League Feb 25th 2001)
Our defeat to Monaco occurred exactly 14 years after this particular debacle


37) Arsenal 0-3 Middlesborough (Premier League 14th April 2001)
Two own goals courtesy of our Boys from Brazil gift wrapped the title for United that weekend


36) Arsenal 2-4 Charlton (Premier League 4th November 2001)
You know you are doing something disastrously wrong when you are comprehensively beaten by a team including Jason Euell and Claus Jensen


35) Arsenal 2-3 Leeds (Premier League 4th May 2003)
If last night's defending was suicidal this was ritual disembowelment, as we generously kept Leeds United safe from relegation and handed United the title on this day.


34) Arsenal 0-3 Inter (Champions League 17th Sept 2003)
Another quarter final appearance but the European campaign completely got off to the wrong start


33) Arsenal 2-4 Man United (Premier League 1st Feb 2005)
2-1 up at half time, contrived to have a complete meltdown in the second half....United managed to record a comfortable win even though they played with ten men for the last twenty minutes.


32) Arsenal 2-3 West Ham (Premier League 1st Feb 2006)
Last ever defeat at Highbury and to be fair on Wenger two of the goals were as much down to Sol Campbell going mentally AWOL as anything else


31) Sheffield United 1-0 Arsenal (Premier League 30th September 2006)
Memorable because Sheffield United played the last twenty minutes with Phil Jagielka in goal and yet we came no where near scoring


30) PSV 1-0 Arsenal (Champions League February 20th 2007)
Another team who soaked up every one of our attacks with ease and scored on the break, winning the tie 2-1 on agg with a draw in the second leg


29) Liverpool 4-1 Arsenal (Premier League 31st March 2007)
Before the 5-1 defeat there was the 4-1 defeat, you know you've gone to pieces defensively when Peter Crouch gets a hat trick against you


28) Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal (League Cup 22nd January 2008)
Ugh


27) Arsenal 1-2 Hull (Premier League 27th September 2008)
Going into the weekend top, unbeaten in 25 home league matches and then this?


26) Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa (Premier League 15th November 2008)
Villa have won in the league at the Emirates as many times as United and Chelsea, what made this particularly galling was that Villa were fully deserving of the three points.


25) Arsenal 1-3 Man United (Champions League 5th May 2009)
After losing 1-0 in the first leg the tie was far from over, until we contrived to let United stroll to an easy 4-1 agg victory


24) Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea (Premier League 10th May 2009)
Expecting a response after the Champions League exit?...No....go on Chelsea third place is all yours


23) Arsenal 0-3 Chelsea (Premier League 29th Nov 2009)
Another match against Chelsea, another ridiculously easy win for Chelsea


22) Arsenal 1-3 United (Premier League 31st Jan 2010)
Anyone would think we had a mental weakness against the top sides


21) Wigan 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 18th April 2010)
Oddly enough we were still in the title race at this point, and we were 2-0 up and cruising in this game until the 80th minute


20) Arsenal 2-3 West Brom (Premier League 25th September 2010)
Almunia saving a first half penalty was not enough of a danger warning for Arsenal to pull their socks up and put in a performance, so how about going 3-0 down instead?.

19) Arsenal 2-3 Tottenham (Premier League 20th November 2010)
Two nil and we fucked it up

18) Arsenal 1-2 Birmingham (League Cup 27th February 2011)
Chance to win first silverware in almost six years against struggling opponents?....too good of an opportunity to pass up?...not for Arsenal


17) Man United 8-2 Arsenal (Premier League 28th August 2011)
The Benchmark against which all fuck ups past and future are set


16) Blackburn 4-3 Arsenal (Premier League 17th September 2011)
Why concede one own goal when you can concede two?


15) Arsenal 1-2 Man United (Premier League 22nd Jan 2012)
Alex Oxlade Chamberlain has been influential in Arsenal getting back into a game which they were never in, and putting themselves on the front foot...so obviously he has to be subsituted and seven minutes later United get the winner through future Arsenal player Welbeck.


14) Milan 4-0 Arsenal (Champions League 15th February 2012)
Stunk out the San Siro


13) Arsenal 0-2 Schalke (Champions League 24th October 2012)
Another defeat that accompanied an abject performance


12) Arsenal 0-2 Swansea (Premier League 1st December 2012)
Copy and paste from description above


11) Bradford 1-1 Arsenal (Carling Cup 11th December 2012)
Lost 3-2 on Penalties to a side from League Two despite putting out a near full strength XI


10) Arsenal 0-1 Blackburn (FA Cup 16th February 2013)
The lower league compounded misery just kept on coming


9) Arsenal 1-3 Bayern Munich (Champions League 19th February 2013)
Yes Bayern Munich were European Champions by the end of the season and deservedly so, we still didn't need to make this game so easy for them


8) Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa (Premier League 17th August 2013)
A crippled Striker from the French 2nd Division with delusions of postal service signed on a free had been our only movement in the market in the summer, this kind of result was just begging to happen.


7) Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal (Premier League February 8th 2014)
4-0 down in twenty minutes, that is all


6) Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal (Premier League March 22nd 2014)
Only 3-0 down in twenty minutes, signs of improvement


5) Everton 3-0 Arsenal (Premier League 6th April 2014)
By this point our season was flagging, and we need to put our champions league qualification in doubt in order to get back on track


4) Dortmund 2-0 Arsenal (Champions League 16th September 2014)
Could have quite literally been double figures for the Germans


3) Arsenal 1-2 United (Premier League 22nd November 2014)
United were 2-0 and cruising with one shot on target


2) Stoke 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 6th December 2014)
One of four premier league defeats to Stoke and a strong indicator that we'd learnt literally nothing from the previous three


1) Arsenal 1-3 Monaco (Champions League 25th February 2015)
The thing what happened last night.

Marc Overmars
26-02-2015, 11:46 PM
Impressive list tbf.

You forgot the 2 FA Cup defeats at Old Trafford.

Getting spanked 4-0 in 2008 and having Nani take the piss. Then there was that ridiculous 2-0 defeat in 2011, where United won comfortably with about 7 or 8 defenders on the pitch. I think the midfield was made up of O'Shea, Fabio, Rafael and Gibson FFS.

Soon we'll make it a hatrick of abject cup exits there.

McNamara That Ghost...
26-02-2015, 11:53 PM
His trip at to the train station?

I'd place the 4-4 against the Barcodes at Number 1.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
26-02-2015, 11:57 PM
You masochist! What a cheery thread impeccably timed! :d

Xhaka Can’t
27-02-2015, 12:01 AM
4-4 with Spurs has to be up there.

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 12:37 AM
Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal (Premier League March 22nd 2014)

Has to be this. Wenger's 1,000th game. He didn't turn up, the team didn't turn up and the chavs laughed us out of the place. It was a brutal reminder that after almost a decade planing for greatness we still weren't in the ballpark.

Munchies
27-02-2015, 12:39 AM
Wayne Bridge scoring and getting dumped out of the CL

LDG
27-02-2015, 05:26 AM
This list is too kind, and doesn't actually go anywhere near to describing the exasperation, heartbreak and anger felt by those who have watched the same gutless / arrogant / disorganised / injury-wrecked performances time and time again.

The same "wenger locked players in dressing room" and "angriest he's ever been" and "we must get back to playing our game" (IRONIC), follows each performance. Not to mention the familiar lucky dip captain speech "we must do better"

Still got nothing to do with the manager and his philosophy though. Must be the players. We've only gone through about 700 of them (and Diaby) over the last 10 years.

LDG
27-02-2015, 05:29 AM
41 will be losing to Utd in the Qtr Final, unless we can outdo that before then.

LDG
27-02-2015, 05:31 AM
His trip at to the train station?

I'd place the 4-4 against the Barcodes at Number 1.

He did say defeats, but this should be in the top ten anyway! Four up with 45 mins to play! I remember talking to Gary on the phone after. I seriously thought he was going to top himself.

LDG
27-02-2015, 05:39 AM
In lieu of last night's laughably bad performance against the team that was the easiest draw for us in the competition, it would seem churlish not to put it into some kind of perspective or at least just make it an excuse to make a list of the worst individual humiliations this club has suffered under Wenger.


I am going to produce a top 40 list.....(as i don't think ten would be sufficient) of shockingly bad defeats...this is going to be chronological order so as not to give any humiliation priority over another.


40) Arsenal 0-5 Chelsea (League cup 11 November 1998)
It was a reserve side that was fielded, but to be taken apart so comprehensively by London Rivals still a very big embarrassment


39) Spartak Moscow 4-1 Arsenal (Champions League 22 Nov 2000)
We may have got to the quarter finals for the first time under Wenger that season, still didn't prevent us being completely turned over by average opposition on the way.


38) Man United 6-1 Arsenal (Premier League Feb 25th 2001)
Our defeat to Monaco occurred exactly 14 years after this particular debacle


37) Arsenal 0-3 Middlesborough (Premier League 14th April 2001)
Two own goals courtesy of our Boys from Brazil gift wrapped the title for United that weekend


36) Arsenal 2-4 Charlton (Premier League 4th November 2001)
You know you are doing something disastrously wrong when you are comprehensively beaten by a team including Jason Euell and Claus Jensen


35) Arsenal 2-3 Leeds (Premier League 4th May 2003)
If last night's defending was suicidal this was ritual disembowelment, as we generously kept Leeds United safe from relegation and handed United the title on this day.


34) Arsenal 0-3 Inter (Champions League 17th Sept 2003)
Another quarter final appearance but the European campaign completely got off to the wrong start


33) Arsenal 2-4 Man United (Premier League 1st Feb 2005)
2-1 up at half time, contrived to have a complete meltdown in the second half....United managed to record a comfortable win even though they played with ten men for the last twenty minutes.


32) Arsenal 2-3 West Ham (Premier League 1st Feb 2006)
Last ever defeat at Highbury and to be fair on Wenger two of the goals were as much down to Sol Campbell going mentally AWOL as anything else


31) Sheffield United 1-0 Arsenal (Premier League 30th September 2006)
Memorable because Sheffield United played the last twenty minutes with Phil Jagielka in goal and yet we came no where near scoring


30) PSV 1-0 Arsenal (Champions League February 20th 2007)
Another team who soaked up every one of our attacks with ease and scored on the break, winning the tie 2-1 on agg with a draw in the second leg


29) Liverpool 4-1 Arsenal (Premier League 31st March 2007)
Before the 5-1 defeat there was the 4-1 defeat, you know you've gone to pieces defensively when Peter Crouch gets a hat trick against you


28) Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal (League Cup 22nd January 2008)
Ugh


27) Arsenal 1-2 Hull (Premier League 27th September 2008)
Going into the weekend top, unbeaten in 25 home league matches and then this?


26) Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa (Premier League 15th November 2008)
Villa have won in the league at the Emirates as many times as United and Chelsea, what made this particularly galling was that Villa were fully deserving of the three points.


25) Arsenal 1-3 Man United (Champions League 5th May 2009)
After losing 1-0 in the first leg the tie was far from over, until we contrived to let United stroll to an easy 4-1 agg victory


24) Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea (Premier League 10th May 2009)
Expecting a response after the Champions League exit?...No....go on Chelsea third place is all yours


23) Arsenal 0-3 Chelsea (Premier League 29th Nov 2009)
Another match against Chelsea, another ridiculously easy win for Chelsea


22) Arsenal 1-3 United (Premier League 31st Jan 2010)
Anyone would think we had a mental weakness against the top sides


21) Wigan 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 18th April 2010)
Oddly enough we were still in the title race at this point, and we were 2-0 up and cruising in this game until the 80th minute


20) Arsenal 2-3 West Brom (Premier League 25th September 2010)
Almunia saving a first half penalty was not enough of a danger warning for Arsenal to pull their socks up and put in a performance, so how about going 3-0 down instead?.

19) Arsenal 2-3 Tottenham (Premier League 20th November 2010)
Two nil and we fucked it up

18) Arsenal 1-2 Birmingham (League Cup 27th February 2011)
Chance to win first silverware in almost six years against struggling opponents?....too good of an opportunity to pass up?...not for Arsenal


17) Man United 8-2 Arsenal (Premier League 28th August 2011)
The Benchmark against which all fuck ups past and future are set


16) Blackburn 4-3 Arsenal (Premier League 17th September 2011)
Why concede one own goal when you can concede two?


15) Arsenal 1-2 Man United (Premier League 22nd Jan 2012)
Alex Oxlade Chamberlain has been influential in Arsenal getting back into a game which they were never in, and putting themselves on the front foot...so obviously he has to be subsituted and seven minutes later United get the winner through future Arsenal player Welbeck.


14) Milan 4-0 Arsenal (Champions League 15th February 2012)
Stunk out the San Siro


13) Arsenal 0-2 Schalke (Champions League 24th October 2012)
Another defeat that accompanied an abject performance


12) Arsenal 0-2 Swansea (Premier League 1st December 2012)
Copy and paste from description above


11) Bradford 1-1 Arsenal (Carling Cup 11th December 2012)
Lost 3-2 on Penalties to a side from League Two despite putting out a near full strength XI


10) Arsenal 0-1 Blackburn (FA Cup 16th February 2013)
The lower league compounded misery just kept on coming


9) Arsenal 1-3 Bayern Munich (Champions League 19th February 2013)
Yes Bayern Munich were European Champions by the end of the season and deservedly so, we still didn't need to make this game so easy for them


8) Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa (Premier League 17th August 2013)
A crippled Striker from the French 2nd Division with delusions of postal service signed on a free had been our only movement in the market in the summer, this kind of result was just begging to happen.


7) Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal (Premier League February 8th 2014)
4-0 down in twenty minutes, that is all


6) Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal (Premier League March 22nd 2014)
Only 3-0 down in twenty minutes, signs of improvement


5) Everton 3-0 Arsenal (Premier League 6th April 2014)
By this point our season was flagging, and we need to put our champions league qualification in doubt in order to get back on track


4) Dortmund 2-0 Arsenal (Champions League 16th September 2014)
Could have quite literally been double figures for the Germans


3) Arsenal 1-2 United (Premier League 22nd November 2014)
United were 2-0 and cruising with one shot on target


2) Stoke 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 6th December 2014)
One of four premier league defeats to Stoke and a strong indicator that we'd learnt literally nothing from the previous three


1) Arsenal 1-3 Monaco (Champions League 25th February 2015)
The thing what happened last night.

Just a blip.

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 08:55 AM
Just a blip.

winsome, lose some.

AFC Leveller
27-02-2015, 09:19 AM
The chelsea loss last season was the worst i think. We were in the title race and a win would have taken us above them or a point behind i think and there was a lot at stake, london pride, manager's 1000 game, bragging right, valuable points and of course a chance to finally beat Mourinho.

Wenger has simply got to go.

Özim
27-02-2015, 09:29 AM
Lost count of the number of embarrasing results in recent years, these kind of results use to be very rare but now they are fairly regular, this club have shown no sign of progress in almost 10 years now, the manager doesn't really seem to care.

Dein-machine
27-02-2015, 09:46 AM
Surely Anderlecht this year needs to be added.

Dein-machine
27-02-2015, 09:59 AM
In lieu of last night's laughably bad performance against the team that was the easiest draw for us in the competition, it would seem churlish not to put it into some kind of perspective or at least just make it an excuse to make a list of the worst individual humiliations this club has suffered under Wenger.


I am going to produce a top 40 list.....(as i don't think ten would be sufficient) of shockingly bad defeats...this is going to be chronological order so as not to give any humiliation priority over another.


40) Arsenal 0-5 Chelsea (League cup 11 November 1998)
It was a reserve side that was fielded, but to be taken apart so comprehensively by London Rivals still a very big embarrassment


39) Spartak Moscow 4-1 Arsenal (Champions League 22 Nov 2000)
We may have got to the quarter finals for the first time under Wenger that season, still didn't prevent us being completely turned over by average opposition on the way.


38) Man United 6-1 Arsenal (Premier League Feb 25th 2001)
Our defeat to Monaco occurred exactly 14 years after this particular debacle


37) Arsenal 0-3 Middlesborough (Premier League 14th April 2001)
Two own goals courtesy of our Boys from Brazil gift wrapped the title for United that weekend


36) Arsenal 2-4 Charlton (Premier League 4th November 2001)
You know you are doing something disastrously wrong when you are comprehensively beaten by a team including Jason Euell and Claus Jensen


35) Arsenal 2-3 Leeds (Premier League 4th May 2003)
If last night's defending was suicidal this was ritual disembowelment, as we generously kept Leeds United safe from relegation and handed United the title on this day.


34) Arsenal 0-3 Inter (Champions League 17th Sept 2003)
Another quarter final appearance but the European campaign completely got off to the wrong start


33) Arsenal 2-4 Man United (Premier League 1st Feb 2005)
2-1 up at half time, contrived to have a complete meltdown in the second half....United managed to record a comfortable win even though they played with ten men for the last twenty minutes.


32) Arsenal 2-3 West Ham (Premier League 1st Feb 2006)
Last ever defeat at Highbury and to be fair on Wenger two of the goals were as much down to Sol Campbell going mentally AWOL as anything else


31) Sheffield United 1-0 Arsenal (Premier League 30th September 2006)
Memorable because Sheffield United played the last twenty minutes with Phil Jagielka in goal and yet we came no where near scoring


30) PSV 1-0 Arsenal (Champions League February 20th 2007)
Another team who soaked up every one of our attacks with ease and scored on the break, winning the tie 2-1 on agg with a draw in the second leg


29) Liverpool 4-1 Arsenal (Premier League 31st March 2007)
Before the 5-1 defeat there was the 4-1 defeat, you know you've gone to pieces defensively when Peter Crouch gets a hat trick against you


28) Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal (League Cup 22nd January 2008)
Ugh


27) Arsenal 1-2 Hull (Premier League 27th September 2008)
Going into the weekend top, unbeaten in 25 home league matches and then this?


26) Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa (Premier League 15th November 2008)
Villa have won in the league at the Emirates as many times as United and Chelsea, what made this particularly galling was that Villa were fully deserving of the three points.


25) Arsenal 1-3 Man United (Champions League 5th May 2009)
After losing 1-0 in the first leg the tie was far from over, until we contrived to let United stroll to an easy 4-1 agg victory


24) Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea (Premier League 10th May 2009)
Expecting a response after the Champions League exit?...No....go on Chelsea third place is all yours


23) Arsenal 0-3 Chelsea (Premier League 29th Nov 2009)
Another match against Chelsea, another ridiculously easy win for Chelsea


22) Arsenal 1-3 United (Premier League 31st Jan 2010)
Anyone would think we had a mental weakness against the top sides


21) Wigan 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 18th April 2010)
Oddly enough we were still in the title race at this point, and we were 2-0 up and cruising in this game until the 80th minute


20) Arsenal 2-3 West Brom (Premier League 25th September 2010)
Almunia saving a first half penalty was not enough of a danger warning for Arsenal to pull their socks up and put in a performance, so how about going 3-0 down instead?.

19) Arsenal 2-3 Tottenham (Premier League 20th November 2010)
Two nil and we fucked it up

18) Arsenal 1-2 Birmingham (League Cup 27th February 2011)
Chance to win first silverware in almost six years against struggling opponents?....too good of an opportunity to pass up?...not for Arsenal


17) Man United 8-2 Arsenal (Premier League 28th August 2011)
The Benchmark against which all fuck ups past and future are set


16) Blackburn 4-3 Arsenal (Premier League 17th September 2011)
Why concede one own goal when you can concede two?


15) Arsenal 1-2 Man United (Premier League 22nd Jan 2012)
Alex Oxlade Chamberlain has been influential in Arsenal getting back into a game which they were never in, and putting themselves on the front foot...so obviously he has to be subsituted and seven minutes later United get the winner through future Arsenal player Welbeck.


14) Milan 4-0 Arsenal (Champions League 15th February 2012)
Stunk out the San Siro


13) Arsenal 0-2 Schalke (Champions League 24th October 2012)
Another defeat that accompanied an abject performance


12) Arsenal 0-2 Swansea (Premier League 1st December 2012)
Copy and paste from description above


11) Bradford 1-1 Arsenal (Carling Cup 11th December 2012)
Lost 3-2 on Penalties to a side from League Two despite putting out a near full strength XI


10) Arsenal 0-1 Blackburn (FA Cup 16th February 2013)
The lower league compounded misery just kept on coming


9) Arsenal 1-3 Bayern Munich (Champions League 19th February 2013)
Yes Bayern Munich were European Champions by the end of the season and deservedly so, we still didn't need to make this game so easy for them


8) Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa (Premier League 17th August 2013)
A crippled Striker from the French 2nd Division with delusions of postal service signed on a free had been our only movement in the market in the summer, this kind of result was just begging to happen.


7) Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal (Premier League February 8th 2014)
4-0 down in twenty minutes, that is all


6) Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal (Premier League March 22nd 2014)
Only 3-0 down in twenty minutes, signs of improvement


5) Everton 3-0 Arsenal (Premier League 6th April 2014)
By this point our season was flagging, and we need to put our champions league qualification in doubt in order to get back on track


4) Dortmund 2-0 Arsenal (Champions League 16th September 2014)
Could have quite literally been double figures for the Germans


3) Arsenal 1-2 United (Premier League 22nd November 2014)
United were 2-0 and cruising with one shot on target


2) Stoke 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 6th December 2014)
One of four premier league defeats to Stoke and a strong indicator that we'd learnt literally nothing from the previous three


1) Arsenal 1-3 Monaco (Champions League 25th February 2015)
The thing what happened last night.

I think Letter's calls it progress.

Letters
27-02-2015, 10:13 AM
:pal: at your grammar.

Bumble
27-02-2015, 12:18 PM
if you look at the dates, it is very interesting. The Vieira period of 8 years had 8 occasions. The next 10 years had 32. The change in style, the change in type of player. a move from fast powerful players to little tip tappy players.

Letters
27-02-2015, 12:37 PM
if you look at the dates, it is very interesting. The Vieira period of 8 years had 8 occasions. The next 10 years had 32. The change in style, the change in type of player. a move from fast powerful players to little tip tappy players.

I'm not sure the change in style is that relevant, more the change in quality.
And the change of having a strong captain - Wenger isn't a great motivator, he's always needed a strong captain out there. We haven't had one for years.

Munchies
27-02-2015, 12:50 PM
Wenger on unhappy fans: "We play 55 games a season; you're not a fan for 1 game. We are still in the Champions League."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150227/boss-defeat-hurts-more-than-criticism

:haha:

adzzzbatch
27-02-2015, 12:52 PM
Wenger on unhappy fans: "We play 55 games a season; you're not a fan for 1 game. We are still in the Champions League."

:haha:

Deluded :haha:

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 01:22 PM
Wenger on unhappy fans: "We play 55 games a season; you're not a fan for 1 game. We are still in the Champions League."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150227/boss-defeat-hurts-more-than-criticism

:haha:

Everything went against us in that CL game. Apparently.

Playing at home in world class facilities on an immaculate pitch, playing against their reserves, having a team full of internationals and comparatively minimal injury concerns, the ref playing it fair, getting the extra day's rest by playing on the Wednesday. It all stacks up and it's little wonder we lost.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-02-2015, 01:49 PM
He did say defeats, but this should be in the top ten anyway! Four up with 45 mins to play! I remember talking to Gary on the phone after. I seriously thought he was going to top himself.

To be fair if it was performances the 4-4 game would be no1, even though it was 12 men (11 Newcastle and Phil Dowd) vs ten.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-02-2015, 01:53 PM
if you look at the dates, it is very interesting. The Vieira period of 8 years had 8 occasions. The next 10 years had 32. The change in style, the change in type of player. a move from fast powerful players to little tip tappy players.

Yep also half of them all occurred in the last five years

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-02-2015, 01:56 PM
Wenger on unhappy fans: "We play 55 games a season; you're not a fan for 1 game. We are still in the Champions League."
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150227/boss-defeat-hurts-more-than-criticism

:haha:

He really has this PR thing nailed down doesn't he?

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 02:20 PM
He really has this PR thing nailed down doesn't he?

We take each game as it comes!

Wenger out!

Letters
27-02-2015, 02:28 PM
The secret to good comedy is timing:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/27/arsenal-crock-abou-diaby-could-get-new-deal-at-gunners-despite-horrific-injury-record-5081907/?


(I think this would have to go in at number 1 if this happens)

Marc Overmars
27-02-2015, 02:32 PM
I think Diaby will be kept on because I reckon WUMger feels as though he has a duty of care for him.

It has to be pay as you play though to make any sense.

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 02:35 PM
The secret to good comedy is timing:

http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/27/arsenal-crock-abou-diaby-could-get-new-deal-at-gunners-despite-horrific-injury-record-5081907/?


(I think this would have to go in at number 1 if this happens)

We need an new smiley. This one -> :haha: is tired.

Three possibilities. Fake article, or Diaby has some toxic shit on Wenger, or Wenger is punishing us for the reaction to Monaco and at the same time demonstrating he's untouchable.

Not even trying to joke, but there can't possibly, possibly be any footballing reasons for retaining Diaby.

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 02:36 PM
I think Diaby will be kept on because I reckon WUMger feels as though he has a duty of care for him.

It has to be pay as you play though to make any sense.

Oh right, that's not so bad. If he's paying to play then at least we stop bleeding cash, although we won't make any money under the new arrangement.

Özil's Panoramic View
27-02-2015, 02:37 PM
I think Diaby will be kept on because I reckon WUMger feels as though he has a duty of care for him.

It has to be pay as you play though to make any sense.

Unimaginably cruel suggestion.

The poor bloke would starve to death.

Letters
27-02-2015, 03:34 PM
:lol: To be fair it's a bit of a stitch up by the media, it's a mischievous question - he's hardly going to say "dear God no!" in public when asked about a new contact for Diaby.

Munchies
27-02-2015, 03:37 PM
Any other manager would've got rid of him 4-5 seasons ago

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 03:40 PM
:lol: To be fair it's a bit of a stitch up by the media, it's a mischievous question - he's hardly going to say "dear God no!" in public when asked about a new contact for Diaby.

Why is he not going to say that? Isn't it the obvious thing to say? What does he have to complicate things so much?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-02-2015, 03:56 PM
Our Man Arsene is not a man who can deal with confrontation, so it's easier for him to prevaricate and say "not sure we will deal with it next month" and then say the same thing again the next month.

I think he's hoping Diaby gets fed up waiting and leaves, but that's like hoping that Wesley Snipes would decide to pay his Taxes off his own back

Letters
27-02-2015, 04:00 PM
Why is he not going to say that? Isn't it the obvious thing to say? What does he have to complicate things so much?

You know why :rolleyes:

Özim
27-02-2015, 04:05 PM
You know why :rolleyes:

Because he's a coward scared to criticise his own players?

Letters
27-02-2015, 04:08 PM
Because he's a coward scared to criticise his own players?

Do you think it would be good management?

EDIT: He certainly wasn't shy of criticizing them the other evening, although it is rare for him to do so.

Niall_Quinn
27-02-2015, 04:09 PM
Our Man Arsene is not a man who can deal with confrontation, so it's easier for him to prevaricate and say "not sure we will deal with it next month" and then say the same thing again the next month.

I think he's hoping Diaby gets fed up waiting and leaves, but that's like hoping that Wesley Snipes would decide to pay his Taxes off his own back

Is Diaby fit enough to leave under his own steam?

Özim
27-02-2015, 04:11 PM
Do you think it would be good management?

EDIT: He certainly wasn't shy of criticizing them the other evening, although it is rare for him to do so.

I think when it's called for there's nothing wrong with that, other managers have been known to do it and it sometimes has a positive impact on a player.

Letters
27-02-2015, 04:19 PM
I think when it's called for there's nothing wrong with that, other managers have been known to do it and it sometimes has a positive impact on a player.
What do you mean by 'it'? If you mean criticising his players then there is a time and a place and as I say he did do that the other evening.
I wouldn't expect my line manager to be discussing my contract in public though.

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
27-02-2015, 04:23 PM
What do you mean by 'it'? If you mean criticising his players then there is a time and a place and as I say he did do that the other evening.
I wouldn't expect my line manager to be discussing my contract in public though.

I discussed your contract with him over lunch ads

Obviously I can't talk about what we discussed but I'd start looking in the classified section if I were you.

-Xs-
04-03-2015, 01:00 AM
We need an new smiley. This one -> :haha: is tired.

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Something along these lines?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/doc-rivers.gif

AFC Leveller
04-03-2015, 09:26 AM
In lieu of last night's laughably bad performance against the team that was the easiest draw for us in the competition, it would seem churlish not to put it into some kind of perspective or at least just make it an excuse to make a list of the worst individual humiliations this club has suffered under Wenger.


I am going to produce a top 40 list.....(as i don't think ten would be sufficient) of shockingly bad defeats...this is going to be chronological order so as not to give any humiliation priority over another.


40) Arsenal 0-5 Chelsea (League cup 11 November 1998)
It was a reserve side that was fielded, but to be taken apart so comprehensively by London Rivals still a very big embarrassment


39) Spartak Moscow 4-1 Arsenal (Champions League 22 Nov 2000)
We may have got to the quarter finals for the first time under Wenger that season, still didn't prevent us being completely turned over by average opposition on the way.


38) Man United 6-1 Arsenal (Premier League Feb 25th 2001)
Our defeat to Monaco occurred exactly 14 years after this particular debacle


37) Arsenal 0-3 Middlesborough (Premier League 14th April 2001)
Two own goals courtesy of our Boys from Brazil gift wrapped the title for United that weekend


36) Arsenal 2-4 Charlton (Premier League 4th November 2001)
You know you are doing something disastrously wrong when you are comprehensively beaten by a team including Jason Euell and Claus Jensen


35) Arsenal 2-3 Leeds (Premier League 4th May 2003)
If last night's defending was suicidal this was ritual disembowelment, as we generously kept Leeds United safe from relegation and handed United the title on this day.


34) Arsenal 0-3 Inter (Champions League 17th Sept 2003)
Another quarter final appearance but the European campaign completely got off to the wrong start


33) Arsenal 2-4 Man United (Premier League 1st Feb 2005)
2-1 up at half time, contrived to have a complete meltdown in the second half....United managed to record a comfortable win even though they played with ten men for the last twenty minutes.


32) Arsenal 2-3 West Ham (Premier League 1st Feb 2006)
Last ever defeat at Highbury and to be fair on Wenger two of the goals were as much down to Sol Campbell going mentally AWOL as anything else


31) Sheffield United 1-0 Arsenal (Premier League 30th September 2006)
Memorable because Sheffield United played the last twenty minutes with Phil Jagielka in goal and yet we came no where near scoring


30) PSV 1-0 Arsenal (Champions League February 20th 2007)
Another team who soaked up every one of our attacks with ease and scored on the break, winning the tie 2-1 on agg with a draw in the second leg


29) Liverpool 4-1 Arsenal (Premier League 31st March 2007)
Before the 5-1 defeat there was the 4-1 defeat, you know you've gone to pieces defensively when Peter Crouch gets a hat trick against you


28) Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal (League Cup 22nd January 2008)
Ugh


27) Arsenal 1-2 Hull (Premier League 27th September 2008)
Going into the weekend top, unbeaten in 25 home league matches and then this?


26) Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa (Premier League 15th November 2008)
Villa have won in the league at the Emirates as many times as United and Chelsea, what made this particularly galling was that Villa were fully deserving of the three points.


25) Arsenal 1-3 Man United (Champions League 5th May 2009)
After losing 1-0 in the first leg the tie was far from over, until we contrived to let United stroll to an easy 4-1 agg victory


24) Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea (Premier League 10th May 2009)
Expecting a response after the Champions League exit?...No....go on Chelsea third place is all yours


23) Arsenal 0-3 Chelsea (Premier League 29th Nov 2009)
Another match against Chelsea, another ridiculously easy win for Chelsea


22) Arsenal 1-3 United (Premier League 31st Jan 2010)
Anyone would think we had a mental weakness against the top sides


21) Wigan 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 18th April 2010)
Oddly enough we were still in the title race at this point, and we were 2-0 up and cruising in this game until the 80th minute


20) Arsenal 2-3 West Brom (Premier League 25th September 2010)
Almunia saving a first half penalty was not enough of a danger warning for Arsenal to pull their socks up and put in a performance, so how about going 3-0 down instead?.

19) Arsenal 2-3 Tottenham (Premier League 20th November 2010)
Two nil and we fucked it up

18) Arsenal 1-2 Birmingham (League Cup 27th February 2011)
Chance to win first silverware in almost six years against struggling opponents?....too good of an opportunity to pass up?...not for Arsenal


17) Man United 8-2 Arsenal (Premier League 28th August 2011)
The Benchmark against which all fuck ups past and future are set


16) Blackburn 4-3 Arsenal (Premier League 17th September 2011)
Why concede one own goal when you can concede two?


15) Arsenal 1-2 Man United (Premier League 22nd Jan 2012)
Alex Oxlade Chamberlain has been influential in Arsenal getting back into a game which they were never in, and putting themselves on the front foot...so obviously he has to be subsituted and seven minutes later United get the winner through future Arsenal player Welbeck.


14) Milan 4-0 Arsenal (Champions League 15th February 2012)
Stunk out the San Siro


13) Arsenal 0-2 Schalke (Champions League 24th October 2012)
Another defeat that accompanied an abject performance


12) Arsenal 0-2 Swansea (Premier League 1st December 2012)
Copy and paste from description above


11) Bradford 1-1 Arsenal (Carling Cup 11th December 2012)
Lost 3-2 on Penalties to a side from League Two despite putting out a near full strength XI


10) Arsenal 0-1 Blackburn (FA Cup 16th February 2013)
The lower league compounded misery just kept on coming


9) Arsenal 1-3 Bayern Munich (Champions League 19th February 2013)
Yes Bayern Munich were European Champions by the end of the season and deservedly so, we still didn't need to make this game so easy for them


8) Arsenal 1-3 Aston Villa (Premier League 17th August 2013)
A crippled Striker from the French 2nd Division with delusions of postal service signed on a free had been our only movement in the market in the summer, this kind of result was just begging to happen.


7) Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal (Premier League February 8th 2014)
4-0 down in twenty minutes, that is all


6) Chelsea 6-0 Arsenal (Premier League March 22nd 2014)
Only 3-0 down in twenty minutes, signs of improvement


5) Everton 3-0 Arsenal (Premier League 6th April 2014)
By this point our season was flagging, and we need to put our champions league qualification in doubt in order to get back on track


4) Dortmund 2-0 Arsenal (Champions League 16th September 2014)
Could have quite literally been double figures for the Germans


3) Arsenal 1-2 United (Premier League 22nd November 2014)
United were 2-0 and cruising with one shot on target


2) Stoke 3-2 Arsenal (Premier League 6th December 2014)
One of four premier league defeats to Stoke and a strong indicator that we'd learnt literally nothing from the previous three


1) Arsenal 1-3 Monaco (Champions League 25th February 2015)
The thing what happened last night.

Fa Cup, 9 March 2015, 4-1 away to Man u :ninja:

Injury Time
04-03-2015, 07:34 PM
Fa Cup, 9 March 2015, 4-1 away to Man u :ninja:

:woohoo: 1 would make the trip worthwile <_<