Match Reaction - man u v ARSENAL!!

[adzzzbatch]

GET THE FUCK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gooner23]

Yeeeeesssssss

[AFC Leveller]

over the moon

this is a massive win even bigger than the one at city

winning at OT is a great feeling

cant believe their cheats chose to dive though, horrible

[Maestro]

Cracking open that beer right now, and so should all of you as well.

[Maestro]

cant believe their cheats chose to dive though, horrible

that was the most believable part of this whole game. what was unbelievable was that the ref decided to punish it.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://articles.squarefootball.net/.a/6a00e5521030508834019104738508970c-pi

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not bad.

[Coney]

Match reaction? Guess. Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Gooner23]

Some really good performances out there today.

Special mention has to go to Cazorla and Coq, they were bloody brilliant.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well I had absolutely no faith we'd win this so I'll just let it sink in gradually.

[adzzzbatch]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Roy Keane says LVG has literally been in the door for two minutes. :unsure:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenger. :bow:

King of Manchester tbf.

[Ralpheroo72]

Van Gaal, technical genius!

[AFC Leveller]

danny getting the winne ris just hollywood stuff.

stoke had two plans, long ball to loo bursh or skydiving their way, ref took time but eventually spotted it.

[cheesy bites]

Monumentalwin.

Besides the cup final, this is the best win I can remember for over a decade. Holy fucking shit. Holy fucking shit
FUCK
SHIT

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSS

[Marc Overmars]

We never really looked liked caving. Glorious.

Finally we get a performance and result that proves what we already suspected - we are better than them.

So close to becoming all time record holders for the cup. :cloud9:

Well done boys. Brilliant, just brilliant. :scarf:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger in! :bow:

[Xhaka Can’t]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRQ2mNwMMQ

I will!

[cheesy bites]

THIS REFEREE

GOD DAMN MAN

WHAT A FUCKING REF

LOVE YA

INCREDIBLE

THAT ARSENE GRIN

WELBECK TROLL JOB

GIROUD SEXY AS FUCK

OX DANCING

SANCHEZ TRICKING

CAZORLA DANCING

OZIL SHRUGGING

COQUELIN SMASHING

MERTESACKER DEFENDING

SCZEZNY SCEZNZYING

ARSENAL

ARSENAL FC

[Niall_Quinn]

Van Gaal, technical genius!

He planned this result, it's all part of some devious plot.

[Globalgunner]

Maybe now they will stop holding that fkn Giggs goal up as the greatest thing since the Americans faked the moon walk

[AFC Leveller]

We never really looked liked caving. Glorious.

Finally we get a performance and result that proves what we already suspected - we are better than them.

So close to becoming all time record holders for the cup. :cloud9:

Well done boys. Brilliant, just brilliant. :scarf:

innit

[LDG]

:)

[adzzzbatch]

I'M SO FUCKING HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :patrice::patrice::patrice::patrice::patrice:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think it was my absolute certainty that we'd lose this game that won it

Monreal MOTM IMHO

[Niall_Quinn]

Coquelin MOTM - 43% :bow:

Rooney got 20% :haha: Should be locked up for their own safety.

[adzzzbatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRQ2mNwMMQ

I will!

Yes!
:gp::gp::gp::gp::gp::gp:

[Niall_Quinn]

Maybe now they will stop holding that fkn Giggs goal up as the greatest thing since the Americans faked the moon walk

Wouldn't have thought so.

[cheesy bites]

ALL YOU LADS

WE GET A FUCKTON OF STICK

"YOU BOTTLE IT IN THE BIG GAMES"

"CAN'T BEAT UNITED"

"COWARDS"

HEADS UP FUCKING HIGH TOMORROW

SHOVE IT UP THE UNITED GOBS

OOOOOH TOOO

OOOOOH TOOO BE

OOOOOH TOOO BE A

GOONAH

[LDG]

He planned this result, it's all part of some devious plot.

I smiled big time at those half time subs :lol:

[Letters]

Quite pleased, tbf.

[Niall_Quinn]

Quite pleased, tbf.

I also found it agreeable.

[LDG]

Phil Neville :haha:

[cheesy bites]

Phil Neville :haha:

NEVILLE CRYING

SCHMEICHEL CHOKING UP

ROY KEANE SULKING

WRIGHTY GRINNING

KEOWN SMUG AS HELL

OOOOOOOOOH DRINK IT IN

[AFC Leveller]

confident ahead of the monaco game

unless we fuck up between now and then

[Gooner23]

Fucking chuffed for the away fans. They've been due one of these.

Also, Coq :bow:

[AFC Leveller]

I smiled big time at those half time subs :lol:

lol genius

[adzzzbatch]

SHE WORE, SHE WORE, SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON!!!

[selassie]

Thought we could and should have won by more, we played well today, especially 2nd half where I felt we controlled the game for long periods. Really pleased with the win, now let's go and win the damn thing again!!!

[cheesy bites]

BREATH

Koscielny, Coquelin, Monreal and Cazorla were bloody marvellous. But my god, Sanchez. The outlet to ease the pressure. Held the ball up, danced between defenders, winning valuable free kicks. Best buy of Arsene's career?

[Niall_Quinn]

Hey! Put the fucking program back on! Why have they ended it? Poxy BBC.

[selassie]

BREATH

Koscielny, Coquelin, Monreal and Cazorla were bloody marvellous. But my god, Sanchez. The outlet to ease the pressure. Held the ball up, danced between defenders, winning valuable free kicks. Best buy of Arsene's career?

Coquelin was outstanding again, boy steps up big time in the big games.

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh shit, I'm accidentally watching the BBC News :doh:

[adzzzbatch]

Oh shit, I'm accidentally watching the BBC News :doh:

:pal:

[Dein-machine]

Great result, some good performances - finally we have realised we can beat these scumbags because their actually quite poo.

[Heisenberg]

Wooooooooooooooo

[adzzzbatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdCy6MGOVfw

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ me right now

[AFC Leveller]

wasnt di maria booked earlier in the match? so was the dive his second yellow or first? im lost

[Dein-machine]

Oh shit, I'm accidentally watching the BBC News :doh:

Same here but only to watch us win again.

[Gooner23]

Sanchez final ball wasn't great today but his workrate and positivity is infectious. A brilliant signing.

And have to say, I thought Ozil was class in the 2nd half. Really worked hard and didn't give the ball away.

[LDG]

He left cos you're shit!
He left cos you're shiiiiit!

[Maestro]

wasnt di maria booked earlier in the match? so was the dive his second yellow or first? im lost

manhandled the ref

[Letters]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdCy6MGOVfw

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ me right now
:lol: That will never get annoying.

[adzzzbatch]

He left cos you're shit!
He left cos you're shiiiiit!

DANNY WELBECK!
HE LEFT COS YOU'RE SHIT!!!! :scarf:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

He left cos you're shit!
He left cos you're shiiiiit!

David De Gea :pray:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maybe now they will stop holding that fkn Giggs goal up as the greatest thing since the Americans faked the moon walk

We've knocked them out of the FA Cup three times since then yet BBC hold on to that as though the only time we have faced them.

[LDG]

I feared for us with the ref to start off with. He's usually pretty good is Oliver. Bit he was being a bit of a cock.

Thankfully he took his head out of his arse.

Bellerin was a bit lucky to stay on mind.

But when all's said and done.

Who gives a fuck.

:dance:

[Letters]

We've knocked them out of the FA Cup three times since then yet BBC hold on to that as though the only time we have faced them.

Prefer this one tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8dLy2eOPw0

[Niall_Quinn]

Right then.

Most remarkable thing about the match was the ref. Spent 70 minutes trying to keep Fellaini on the pitch and the last 20 wading into Utd with his cards, deservedly so.

Second most remarkable thing, Utd's diving. It really is pathetic. However, let's not talk about that. Instead, who remembers that dive by Pires?

Next was van Gaal. What a fraud. Does it really take a genius to come up with a plan to stick loobrush up top and lump it to him? Ferguson may be a cunt but you have to feel a bit of sympathy for him having to watch such dross in the so-called theatre of dreams. For the first time that title makes sense, Utd's farmer Giles footie will put anyone to sleep.

Then Di Maria - :haha: So little justice in this game but that was poetic.

Most memorable moment - Welbeck scoring the winner in what was like slow motion at the time. That's what perfection looks like. You desperately want something to happen and then it actually happens.

Alexis, Coquelin and Santi. super.

The rest of them had their moments, good and bad. Was good to see Monreal and Merts emerge from horrible performances in the first half and finish strongly.

Ozil put a ton of effort in too but his decision making was odd all through the match.

Ches provided the black humour. He looked and arch-clown compared to De Gea.

Wenger made a sensible sub, then got a bit unlucky with his later sub because the sending off changed things around. On balance he didn't fuck up and that's what most of us were asking before kickoff.

Hope Ox's injury is not serious. Again he showed glimpses of why he could develop into a world class talent. Fearless player - sometime good, sometimes bad.

Great to be winners.

Utd are losers and it's set to stay that way under the trumped up charlatan van Gaal.

Happy days.

(Where did zim go btw?)

[fakeyank]

Coq is turning into a beast... so glad he signed a new deal. Need to offload Arteta and Flamini and bring a damn fucking good DM instead. These players win you big games and if Arsene doesnt see it now, he never will.

Ref was phenomenal.. he handled the cheating scums perfectly. Yanuzai's dive was ridiculous.. I'd have sent him off if I was the ref.

Chezza needs to buckle the fuck up.. worst player on the pitch!

Gutted for Ox though.. :(

Now all we need is blackburn to knock the cunts (Gerrard) dream out the window.

[Munchies]

What a win :bow:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

FAHHHHHHKINNN GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[adzzzbatch]

Most memorable moment - Welbeck scoring the winner in what was like slow motion at the time. That's what perfection looks like. You desperately want something to happen and then it actually happens.

I loved how the BBC didn't want to give Welbeck any credit for the goal, but prefer to blame it on a "silly mistake"

It was priceless! :haha:

[AFC Leveller]

8 - Only Adebayo Akinfenwa (9 v Liverpool) has conceded more fouls in a 2014-15 FA Cup match than Marouane Fellaini v Arsenal

[Niall_Quinn]

I loved how the BBC didn't want to give Welbeck any credit for the goal, but prefer to blame it on a "silly mistake"

It was priceless! :haha:

Wrighty sticking it to them in the studio was decent.

Lineker moans - looks like Arsenal's name is on the cup.

Wrighty - It is, we are the holders, won it last year.

[Letters]

Most memorable moment - Welbeck scoring the winner in what was like slow motion at the time.
There was this moment where I thought "ZOMG! He's going to **** this up!" and then he didn't.

Yes, was a rather nice moment.
:yippee:

[AFC Leveller]

https://scontent-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10644988_1405709033070065_7888915378551655368_n.jp g?oh=225219af771b26b565524903de86e9bd&oe=55829D62

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Man utd :haha:

Van Fraud :haha:

Dobby the diving house elf :haha:

Wazza :haha:


Michael Oliver :bow: ........... said it before but he and Clattenberg are the best refs in the game. A more spineless ref like Taylor or Mike Jones would have caved into the pressure of Old Trafford and the home crowd. Correct decisions all round though I felt Fellani should have got a yellow earlier.

Santi :bow:

Coquelin :bow:

Our defence :bow:

I didn't think we were that good but they fucked up and we took our chances ....... that's basicallywhat they've been doing to us for the past several seasons so fuck them.


Hope we don't fuck this up now. The cup is there for the taking.

[Niall_Quinn]

Quiz - Who said this?


'A substitute, not a line-up player, I don't have to prove I was right – if that was not a good enough reason, then I'm not a good manager.'

A: Albert Einstein
B: Stephen Hawking
C: Louis 'the Genius' van Gaal.

[Letters]

https://scontent-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10644988_1405709033070065_7888915378551655368_n.jp g?oh=225219af771b26b565524903de86e9bd&oe=55829D62

Look at that smile :loveblush:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Only negative was Chesney. Thought he was a complete clown ........ selfish as fuck, taking too many unnecessary risks just to show off his skills. And his kicking and handling were atrocious as well.

No way is he going to get back in over Ospina at this rate.


Got to go all in for Cech this summer ........ or dare I say it .... De Gea or Lloris if Utd/Spurs drop out of the top four and they want to move to a bigger club.

Might be able to get Danny to have a word with him to entice him .

[Marc Overmars]

I'm so glad Welbeck celebrated, I hate that non-celebration bollocks. The club didn't want him and he fucking stuck one on them. Why wouldn't you celebrate that?

Glorious.

[Gooner23]

The look on Peter Schmeichel's face during the draw was priceless. Especially with O'Leary grinning away at him.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

> Takes one look on Redcafe

> They're all blaming Michael Oliver

:haha::haha::haha:

[Letters]

Do you know what that was like tonight? It was like one of those old Utd vs Arsenal games, the ones when they went a fair way to deciding the title. Both sides going at one another. Loved it (with a side dish of “where are my heart pills” towards the end). Even had we not won I’d still have been very happy with the way we played tonight, obviously the result was a rather nice bonus.

WE DID IT! We know this lot have it in them, Utd aren’t that good. The keep getting results but they are NOT that good. It was about time this lot stood up and showed what they can do in a game like this, and we did. Fantastic. Oh, and a shout out to the ref who made 2 excellent decisions after Utd dives, would have been so easy to give the home team the decision with the crowd baying for it.

:yippee: :patrice: :dance:

[Gooner23]

Only negative was Chesney. Thought he was a complete clown ........ selfish as fuck, taking too many unnecessary risks just to show off his skills. And his kicking and handling were atrocious as well.

No way is he going to get back in over Ospina at this rate.


Got to go all in for Cech this summer ........ or dare I say it .... De Gea or Lloris if Utd/Spurs drop out of the top four and they want to move to a bigger club.

Might be able to get Danny to have a word with him to entice him .

Neuer he is not.

[Letters]

> Takes one look on Redcafe

> They're all blaming Michael Oliver

:haha::haha::haha:

They've had 20 years of refs obeying Fergie's every word. They can f*** right off.

[adzzzbatch]

I'm so glad Welbeck celebrated, I hate that non-celebration bollocks. The club didn't want him and he fucking stuck one on them. Why wouldn't you celebrate that?

Glorious.

And everyone in the media was saying "he's no good for a club like united, but I'm sure he could do a job at Arsenal"

He did just that tonight! :haha:

[Letters]

Only negative was Chesney. Thought he was a complete clown ........ selfish as fuck, taking too many unnecessary risks just to show off his skills. And his kicking and handling were atrocious as well..
I don't rate Ospina that highly either but Chesney does worry me. He's way too cocky.

[adzzzbatch]

They've had 20 years of refs obeying Fergie's every word. They can f*** right off.

they wos robbed! "same old Arsenal always cheating"

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

And everyone in the media was saying "he's no good for a club like united, but I'm sure he could do a job at Arsenal"

He did just that tonight! :haha:

Instead they opted to pay Falcao a trillion pounds a week.

Genius!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Neuer he is not.

At the moment Neuer has more talent in one finger than Ches has in his whole body!

We need a world class keeper if we want to move on to the next level ............ take one look at De Gea tonight, his world class saves nearly kept them in it. He's been doing that all season for that lot ..... they're probably 10 points higher then they should be thanks to his saves. It's the same thing with Courtois and Lloris at their respective clubs.

I'm sick and tired of Chesney's shit. It's not the first time with him and it won't be the last. Like I said, spunk our entire summer transfer budget on Schnierdlin and one of Lloris/De Gea/Cech.

[Letters]

(Where did zim go btw?)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhztpeyJcL1qdtk9ro1_500.png

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Only negative was Chesney. Thought he was a complete clown ........ selfish as fuck, taking too many unnecessary risks just to show off his skills. And his kicking and handling were atrocious as well.

No way is he going to get back in over Ospina at this rate.


Got to go all in for Cech this summer ........ or dare I say it .... De Gea or Lloris if Utd/Spurs drop out of the top four and they want to move to a bigger club.

Might be able to get Danny to have a word with him to entice him .

I didn't think he was a complete clown but he certainly doesn't need to take the risks he takes. I think it is more down to a high opinion of himself rather than trying to show how good he is.

And his handling is generally one of the best I've seen in the prem.

De Gea though......my word is he a goalkeeper.

[Niall_Quinn]

> Takes one look on Redcafe

> They're all blaming Michael Oliver

:haha::haha::haha:

tbf most of them are blaming Di Maria, or AIDSADM as they call him over there and van Gaals dumb subs. And quite a few have condemned the diving. I should think so, it was appalling.

[Marc Overmars]

I don't tend to praise Ozil much but I thought he was very good tonight. Stuck his foot in when needed and consistently picked the right passes. It's not happening for Alexis right now but because of his energy he's always going to be useful when he's not necessarily productive.

This is such an important win. Barring a semi final embarrasment we're going to be in the final again defending OUR trophy. It's huge motivation for the team and most importantly keeps the fans on side. Going out tonight and facing up to the prospect of only a 4th place dogfight to finish the season would have been demoralising.

[WMUG]

Sitting in Manchester Oxford Road station with the smuggest grin you can imagine :d. What a fucking ggame!

[adzzzbatch]

Sitting in Manchester Oxford Road station with the smuggest grin you can imagine :d. What a fucking ggame!

Is the helicopter grounded? :ninja:

Only joking! :lol: :run:

WE FUCKING WON!!!! :patrice:

[GP]

one of Lloris/De Gea/Cech.

Spurs won't sell to us, He's off to Madrid, Chelsea won't sell to us.

[Niall_Quinn]

Get Mad Jens back as Chesney's personal coach.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I don't rate Ospina that highly either but Chesney does worry me. He's way too shit.

YUP

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Get Mad Jens back as Chesney's personal coach.

Why?...so he can learn how to "discreetly" piss behind an advertising hoarding?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Sitting in Manchester Oxford Road station with the smuggest grin you can imagine :d. What a fucking ggame!

I thought the last train had already left? :lol:

[adzzzbatch]

I thought the last train had already left? :lol:

The club arranged with Virgin Trains to charter another train to get supporters back to London.

[Xhaka Can’t]

The club arranged with Virgin Trains to charter another train to get supporters back to London.

United think of everything.

[adzzzbatch]

United think of everything.

Well how would they get back to Surrey!?!?

[adzzzbatch]

Just tunned in to BBC News "Sports Day" :popcorn:

[adzzzbatch]

van gal :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

LVC. :haha:

Sounds like he's about to cry.

[Niall_Quinn]

Even Claude is happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02OOcz5kao

[McNamara That Ghost...]

LVG: This game is decided by goals.

Genius. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://i61.tinypic.com/tase93.jpg

[Master Splinter]

Arsenal :bow:.

Michael Oliver :bow:. I think I've said it before that he's an incompetent at times but not usually a cheat and credit to him for not being swallowed alive by a baying crowd of 66000 cunts and doing his job correctly.

Coquelin was brilliant again. Monreal was fantastic again too. Cazorla is just wonderful when on form. Ozil calm and controlled but he just hasn't done anything since he returned from his injury according to the meticulous Danny Murphy. Sanchez was iffy in his decision-making once more, but he provided some magic touches and his ethic clearly rubs off on others.

WUMger actually made a pragmatic sub. :faint:

Awlsome to see Welbz celebrate :bow:.

The Cup is coming home again tbfh.

[Master Splinter]

Bolton Wanderers :haha:.

Louis van Allardyce :haha:

Di Maria :haha:.

Janudive :haha:.

Shrek :haha:.

Fellaini the giant elbow drone :haha:.

RVC :haha:.
Agent Valencia :bow:.

Phil Neville :haha:.

Quiet Man Paul Scholes Who Never Shuts His Fucking Mouth :haha:.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p95EtPlYVCA

Dat Man Welbz :lol:

[WMUG]

I thought the last train had already left? :lol:

At uni in York, back home now. Won't be able to sleep for a while though still fucking buzzing! GET THE FUCK IN! HAHA!

[LDG]

Wouldn't 1-2 be a Utd fan right now

[Injury Time]

Just got home

Fucking yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! :woohoo: :scarf: :woohoo:

That's all folks :sleep:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_sCrwdXEAA-MSa.jpg

Keown :haha::haha:

:bow::bow:

[Maestro]

pinch myself .....yes you know it's true FUCK YEAHHHHH!!!!!

What a grin on my face, in a train full of surrey saddos

Well Done Arsenal, well done Wenget ...Dat Man Danny. today is gonna be a good day.

[Özim]

Great win last night, at last a win against Man U, we've had to wait a very long time!

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_t-EkDWQAAGWRz.jpg:large


:bow:

[AFC Leveller]

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[AFC Leveller]

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/DCDDA1F0721186833146256277504_3144d41a7ec.1.5.7250 406717672864864.mp4?versionId=aj4TNLvGGOq59xJHk0NS pFj0QreONnLA

[selassie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_sCrwdXEAA-MSa.jpg

Keown :haha::haha:

:bow::bow:

:haha:

[Power n Glory]

It was overdue. A win at Old Trafford! Fantastic work from Ox and a calm finish from Monreal. He's my first choice LB. Doesn't neglect his defensive duties and when going he usually puts in a good cross and there is purpose to him going forward. Saw that again today. A good purchase.

Coquelin is the man. I knew he had this sort of ability. He can pass, good technique and he's a battler. I'm glad he finally got his chance and we had those injuries otherwise we could have lost a very good player.

Ox was really up for this game and it's a shame he picked up and injury. What's going on with these hamstring injuries? The kid only just came back from a layoff and now he's off again. Let's hope he recovers quickly because this kid is hungry for it.

Sanchez was off but worker hard. His pressing helped create that goal and Danny wasn't really in the game either. But the goal shower what hard work and pressing can do when not having the best of games. A valuable lesson.

Oh...the ref! Good to see he wasn't intimated by the crowd. Excellent performance.

[adzzzbatch]

Coquelin had 12 duels with Fellaini tonight. He won 10 of them.

:bow:

[Bumble]

thought we were pretty good. the game lacked quality with the passing but overall we deserved it. good choice by wenger to play welbeck though as giroud wouldn't have scored that goal. I do like welbeck, he isn't clinical but he works really hard and harasses the defence which in combination with sanchez does give the opposition a lot of headaches. The Ox was quality until he got injured.

The ref was excellent too.... unbelievable really.

Reading or Bradford next up and hopefully Liverpool in the final as if both clubs can keep up their domestic form at the moment then it will be a top drawer final. and back to back fa cups for us.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Oh...the ref! Good to see he wasn't intimated by the crowd. Excellent performance.

The United team were a disgrace to the sport.

Had he been the type of quality we've been used to at OT, we'd have been well beaten last night.

[Bumble]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_sA1SkXEAAKV4H.jpg

chortle.

[adzzzbatch]

Wouldn't 1-2 be a Utd fan right now

Genius! :haha:

[Zerlathon]

The United team were a disgrace to the sport.

Had he been the type of quality we've been used to at OT, we'd have been well beaten last night.

If I remember correctly, the commentator on the BBC said that ~8 (of 10?) of Jazunaj's bookings have come from diving? Looking at their Team, they have a good selection of serial divers (the former plus the likes of Rooney, Di Maria and Young to name a few).

It says something when such a "big team" have to resort to such desperate tactics to try and win.

[Power n Glory]

The United team were a disgrace to the sport.

Had he been the type of quality we've been used to at OT, we'd have been well beaten last night.

Indeed. Di Maria would have never been sent off and I'm sure Bellerin would has been off instead. As the commentator said, after picking up a yellow, not every foul is a yellow.

Utd are a disgrace. Diving all the time trying hard to get a penalty and nothing but long ball football. Fraudulent coach and team.

[Niall_Quinn]

The United team were a disgrace to the sport.

Had he been the type of quality we've been used to at OT, we'd have been well beaten last night.

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[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully the press continue to chip away at LVC because he's cracking up.

[Niall_Quinn]

They are hammering the genius, but still a lot of excuses for Utd floating around.

If Rooney had made the run Ox did for our first goal we'd never hear the last of it. However, it turns out Ox was not that great as it was all down to unbelievably bad defending. Welbeck didn't have to do anything for his goal either, suicidal defending by the 'disgrace, disgrace, disgrace, shouldn't wear the shirt' Valencia who played it to Danny on the 1 yard line so even he couldn't miss. There's not much mention of the guy who can't keep his cool in a goalscoring position actually keeping his cool in a goalscoring position and scoring a goal, at Old Trafford, in front of 74,000, in the quarters of the cup.

Januzaj is getting off very lightly. Di Maria was at least touched (brushed) when he dived. Januzaj did it all without any assistance. A classic piece of cheating. But Di Maria is taking the heat because of the red card. On another day Utd could have robbed a draw if the ref had gone along with it. There should be lengthy bans for players who try to influence results like that.

There's also a fair amount of amnesia regarding our legitimate penalty claim and the two miraculous saves De Gea pulled out. On another day we could have scored 4. On chances created it wasn't a close game, we were clearly on top. Even so, a moment of madness by Valencia followed by insanity from Di Maria. van Gaal said himself after the game, the result had nothing to do with us winning it was all down to Utd throwing it away. Bullshit. We went up to their place and beat them fairly comfortably even though we didn't play as well as we know we can.

Never mind. The excuses make it sweeter. Where the excuses are pouring out at this rate you know it's hurting.

[Niall_Quinn]

Really pressing on will be going to France and winning 3-0. Do that and I can see a decent run-in this season.

[LDG]

Louis Van Potatohead :haha:

[Alpha]

I enjoyed the win but not too much . That was a good chance for us to give them a really good beating . It should have been a 1-4 or 1-5 scoreline and we fucked it up .Why is it we never beat them the way they humiliated us ?
Am I the only one to see that ?

[Marc Overmars]

I enjoyed the win but not too much . That was a good chance for us to give them a really good beating . It should have been a 1-4 or 1-5 scoreline and we fucked it up .Why is it we never beat them the way they humiliated us ?
Am I the only one to see that ?

I suppose you have to give De Gea some credit for keeping the score down. Hopefully someone buys him soon FFS.

It's been a long time since we scored more than twice against them. I think it was probably that 3-1 win at Highbury when Barthez gifted us the win. :lol:

[Munchies]

The Di Maria flop stuff is finally seeing light in the media

£200m later, redcafe are still craving a midfield :haha:

So far , one could argue LvG has done worse than Moyes. No European football to manage either.

[Munchies]

I suppose you have to give De Gea some credit for keeping the score down. Hopefully someone buys him soon FFS.

It's been a long time since we scored more than twice against them. I think it was probably that 3-1 win at Highbury when Barthez gifted us the win. :lol:

Valdes is his replacement imo

[Alpha]

I suppose you have to give De Gea some credit for keeping the score down. Hopefully someone buys him soon FFS.

It's been a long time since we scored more than twice against them. I think it was probably that 3-1 win at Highbury when Barthez gifted us the win. :lol:
De Gea is a top keeper , no doubt about it . But if a team like Leicester can score 5 goals against him and ,with the quality we have , we can't get a third ,it looks we give them too much respect .
It doesn't matter how good the Goal keeper is ,when the team is seriously beaten , there is not much he can do . Cassilas is a top top keeper but he collected the balls 6 times from his net at the world Cup against Holland .

[Özim]

There's also a fair amount of amnesia regarding our legitimate penalty claim

It wasn't a penalty it was a free kick, the foul clearly started outside the area.

[AFC Leveller]

I seriously cannot remember a team whith more clear cheats than Man ure. Rooney's diving, Loo brush's elbows (no replays of his clear elbow on le Coq), Janudive, Di Maria and Young all have previous and i was so glad the ref didnt fall for it last night although Young did get away with one in the 2nd half).

[Injury Time]

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Keown :haha::haha:

:bow::bow:

Quote it just one more time :cool: :pal:

Throat sore little bit today :woohoo:

[Dein-machine]

I enjoyed the win but not too much . That was a good chance for us to give them a really good beating . It should have been a 1-4 or 1-5 scoreline and we fucked it up .Why is it we never beat them the way they humiliated us ?
Am I the only one to see that ?

No you aren't - I'm 100% with you. However, too many of us have been groomed into Wenger's school of mediocrity & therefore after numerous beatings at United results like last night seem to wipe away all the shit. Last night we simply beat a very poor United team with a few good performances from the likes of Coq, Santi & Monreal. Most of our attacking play was pretty awful, their defense is shit & they were there for the taking. If we had more cutting edge up top we could have scored 4 or 5 last night but we have mediocre forwards in Welback/Giroud & Sanchez is trying to do too much because he also knows their mediocre. The truth of the matter is that United are simply are very poor shadow of what they were, but in reality so are we. We are able to pub wins against the likes of QPR & Palace because we have better players then them but we don't have the quality to regularly whip the better teams.

[Marc Overmars]

Jesus, this win is about as rare as it gets for us.

Just enjoy it and also enjoy the fact we've now got every chance of making another FA Cup final.

[Power n Glory]

Jesus, this win is about as rare as it gets for us.

Just enjoy it and also enjoy the fact we've now got every chance of making another FA Cup final.

:gp:

A win at old Trafford is enough for now.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Coquelin is the man. I knew he had this sort of ability. He can pass, good technique and he's a battler. I'm glad he finally got his chance and we had those injuries otherwise we could have lost a very good player.


I thought he was amazing. My MoTM easily, disrupted their attacks, made several crucial interceptions and protected our defence very well despite Chesney trying his hardest to give them a goal.

The only minor problem that still concerns me about him is that I still think he's too short. Man Utd were launching a lot of long balls at our defence (cos that's their main form of attack these days despite spunking 210 million last year) and Coquelin wasn't able to head them away decisively all the time because he wasn't able to out jump Fellani or whichever other clogger was there. This meant that one of Merts or Kos usually had to come from the defence to deal with it which left a gap there ........... which if Man Utd were cleverer and better, could have been exploited.



Ox was really up for this game and it's a shame he picked up and injury. What's going on with these hamstring injuries? The kid only just came back from a layoff and now he's off again. Let's hope he recovers quickly because this kid is hungry for it.


Don't think it was a serious hamstring injury.

He was walking fine after the game when congratulating Welbeck and applauding the support; he would have been on crotches if it was a proper hamstring. It was probably a minor tweak or niggle and I reckon he'll be fine for next week.

And given that we had the likes of Theo and Ramsey on the bench there was no need to take any risks. Got to say with that substitution and Wenger also being wise enough to take off Hector when the Manc scum were trying to get him sent off, Wenger made some top draw substitutions yesterday.

[Ollie the Optimist]

spent all day yesterday wondering why on earth i was travelling to manchester as we always lose up there but my god was it worth it. We were outstanding. Pressured them into mistakes, pressured them into cheating and seeing the ref have enough balls to book them rather then give a penalty was great (was coninced he had given a penalty for januaj dive at first) \

Seeing welbeck score the winner and celebrate as well was just brilliant. I don't know how it came across on television but the 9000 away fans up there were loud. Its still ringing in my ears this morning.

[Niall_Quinn]

It wasn't a penalty it was a free kick, the foul clearly started outside the area.

Rules of the game:
"If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding him inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick."

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The United team were a disgrace to the sport.

Had he been the type of quality we've been used to at OT, we'd have been well beaten last night.

Said it before but Michael Oliver is the best in England along with Clattenberg.

He rarely makes a blunder and isn't intimidated by the names or the crowd.

If that was Howard "Man Utd's number one fan" Webb we'd have lost that after he'd given them penalties for diving and sent of Santi for breathing.

The first Bellerin incident was probably a yellow but the second so called incident was ridiculous; he barely touched Young. Yes it probably was a foul but it wasn't worthy of a yellow card no matter how much the Mancs will howl and rage about it.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Jesus, this win is about as rare as it gets for us.

Just enjoy it and also enjoy the fact we've now got every chance of making another FA Cup final.
So are you changing your name to Cuntface then?

[Marc Overmars]

So are you changing your name to Cuntface then?

If one of the mods would oblige. :scarf:

[Niall_Quinn]

The ref is getting credit for not buckling under Utd's sustained diving and that's fair enough. But he failed to send off Fellaini for the elbow on Coquelin. If he'd applied the rules there then Utd's whole game plan would have been eliminated within the first few minutes. I hope the FA reviews this because it's so bloody obvious loobrush was sent out to target Coquelin. Can't be established without doubt but come on. First few minutes and the player with a broken nose gets an elbow in the nose from guess who. Why didn't the BBC show any replays? When there's blood don't they usually show the replay?

Apart from that, Fellaini committed more fouls in the first half than our team combined. He didn't get booked. He continued to foul through the second half and eventually picked up a card but way too little and too late. No wonder he is effective if he can foul with impunity.

There's also talk that Bellerin should have been sent off. Maybe so. Di Maria's stupidity probably saved him by distracting the ref. But then again, if the ref gives our legitimate penalty then Rojo should pick up a booking at least, maybe a red. He also fouled his way through the game but only picked up one card.

We created the better chances. Had more shots on target. Didn't foul persistently and refrained from the long ball that Utd preferred all night.

Utd don't have a leg to stand on. They were well beaten even though we didn't play to our full abilities.

[Niall_Quinn]

Said it before but Michael Oliver is the best in England along with Clattenberg.

He rarely makes a blunder and isn't intimidated by the names or the crowd.

If that was Howard "Man Utd's number one fan" Webb we'd have lost that after he'd given them penalties for diving and sent of Santi for breathing.

The first Bellerin incident was probably a yellow but the second so called incident was ridiculous; he barely touched Young. Yes it probably was a foul but it wasn't worthy of a yellow card no matter how much the Mancs will howl and rage about it.

Can you imagine Dowd reffing that game?

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Late but still, fuck yeah!!!!!! :scarf:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Do you know what that was like tonight? It was like one of those old Utd vs Arsenal games, the ones when they went a fair way to deciding the title. Both sides going at one another. Loved it (with a side dish of “where are my heart pills” towards the end). Even had we not won I’d still have been very happy with the way we played tonight, obviously the result was a rather nice bonus.

WE DID IT! We know this lot have it in them, Utd aren’t that good. The keep getting results but they are NOT that good. It was about time this lot stood up and showed what they can do in a game like this, and we did. Fantastic. Oh, and a shout out to the ref who made 2 excellent decisions after Utd dives, would have been so easy to give the home team the decision with the crowd baying for it.

:yippee: :patrice: :dance:

Pretty much agree with you here except for the bit about result being a bonus.

This game was always about one thing: beating those vile cheating cunts on their own patch.

Way how we went about doing it was always going to be secondary, imho.

[Power n Glory]

I thought he was amazing. My MoTM easily, disrupted their attacks, made several crucial interceptions and protected our defence very well despite Chesney trying his hardest to give them a goal.

The only minor problem that still concerns me about him is that I still think he's too short. Man Utd were launching a lot of long balls at our defence (cos that's their main form of attack these days despite spunking 210 million last year) and Coquelin wasn't able to head them away decisively all the time because he wasn't able to out jump Fellani or whichever other clogger was there. This meant that one of Merts or Kos usually had to come from the defence to deal with it which left a gap there ........... which if Man Utd were cleverer and better, could have been exploited.



Don't think it was a serious hamstring injury.

He was walking fine after the game when congratulating Welbeck and applauding the support; he would have been on crotches if it was a proper hamstring. It was probably a minor tweak or niggle and I reckon he'll be fine for next week.

And given that we had the likes of Theo and Ramsey on the bench there was no need to take any risks. Got to say with that substitution and Wenger also being wise enough to take off Hector when the Manc scum were trying to get him sent off, Wenger made some top draw substitutions yesterday.

I hope Ox isn't out for too long. I really don't want to see Ozil or Welbeck on the wing. I have no idea what Theo's done but he's not making it into this team until he signs a contract extension.

[selassie]

I hope Ox isn't out for too long. I really don't want to see Ozil or Welbeck on the wing. I have no idea what Theo's done but he's not making it into this team until he signs a contract extension.

The Theo situation is weird but I reckon he will struggle to displace Ox even if he does sign da ting. Ox is first choice for me now and I kind of get the impression Arsene sees him as first choice, he starts in all the big games. Ox brings a lot to this team, he was superb yesterday in the first half, tore them apart, he's done that a few times this season too.

[Power n Glory]

The Theo situation is weird but I reckon he will struggle to displace Ox even if he does sign da ting. Ox is first choice for me now and I kind of get the impression Arsene sees him as first choice, he starts in all the big games. Ox brings a lot to this team, he was superb yesterday in the first half, tore them apart, he's done that a few times this season too.

Ox has the footwork and is more suited on the wing with his overall game. I think Wenger has given up on Theo's development as winger. He plays more as wide striker taking less touches on the ball from deep and focused more on off the ball runs. But Theo brings goals and assists in abundance when on form. Only Sanchez can really rival that sort of output. But I think Ox needs to keep himself fit and get a solid run in the team because he'll be an absolute beast and from what I heard, he's dedicated to Arsenal and focused on being that guy for us. He has the right attitude and he'll be an important player for us.

[Bumble]

I think the Ox is great, the press go on about Sterling but I really think the Ox is just as good. I guess it is because he doesn't quite get the run of games Sterling does and also isn't the focus of the Arsenal unlike Sterling.

I know this sounds crazy but I actually think we are going to beat Monaco and go through in the CL. It is so frustrating conceding that 3rd goal as we will definitely score twice there. Also it really doesn't matter if we concede one as we need to score three anyway. We are going to have a Stevie G moment. 2-0 up going into injury time and Cazorlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Niall_Quinn]

They owe us a progression on glorious failure. Monaco will be ultra defensive though. They don't concede many and we'll need to be bang on form to break them down 3 times.

[selassie]

Ox has the footwork and is more suited on the wing with his overall game. I think Wenger has given up on Theo's development as winger. He plays more as wide striker taking less touches on the ball from deep and focused more on off the ball runs. But Theo brings goals and assists in abundance when on form. Only Sanchez can really rival that sort of output. But I think Ox needs to keep himself fit and get a solid run in the team because he'll be an absolute beast and from what I heard, he's dedicated to Arsenal and focused on being that guy for us. He has the right attitude and he'll be an important player for us.

:gp:

I would keep Theo for his stats alone, it would be very silly of us to lose him because wherever goes he will score and assist loads.

I think Ox has world class potential, if he can stay fit and get a consistent run of games then I am hoping he will really kick on. The other thing really missing from his game is goals.

[selassie]

I think the Ox is great, the press go on about Sterling but I really think the Ox is just as good. I guess it is because he doesn't quite get the run of games Sterling does and also isn't the focus of the Arsenal unlike Sterling.

I know this sounds crazy but I actually think we are going to beat Monaco and go through in the CL. It is so frustrating conceding that 3rd goal as we will definitely score twice there. Also it really doesn't matter if we concede one as we need to score three anyway. We are going to have a Stevie G moment. 2-0 up going into injury time and Cazorlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Not crazy, the team has crazy potential, especially offensively. We just need to put in a top class performance, it's definitely possible.

[Marc Overmars]

It would be interesting if we did somehow get through against Monaco, we'd have quite the fixture list to contend with and I'm not sure I'd trust Wenger to keep the team fresh enough to come through it unscathed.

[Power n Glory]

:gp:

I would keep Theo for his stats alone, it would be very silly of us to lose him because wherever goes he will score and assist loads.

I think Ox has world class potential, if he can stay fit and get a consistent run of games then I am hoping he will really kick on. The other thing really missing from his game is goals.

It's crazy for us to let Theo go but I think it would be crazy for Theo to stay. Wenger has taken his development as far as he can and there is zero left for him to learn on the wing.

Where would he go? A step back to step forwards maybe.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I think the writing is on the wall with Theo. I'd have been happy if he was at least given a role to be the guy with pace introduced towards the last third of matches to stretch the opposition. But he isn't even used for that which is crazy given it had proved effective in the past and it plays to his strengths.

[Master Splinter]

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[Master Splinter]

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[Marc Overmars]

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[AFC Leveller]

The team that started yesterday should start in Monaco. We will need to score first and early and keep them under pressure.

[Globalgunner]

Not to rail on Gibbs after that fantastic win, but he would most likely not have scored the Nacho goal. Gibbs is the better athlete but Monreal is the better footballer. Giroud would not have reached the ball on the 2nd goal either. Sometimes Wenger does get it right. Kudos!!!

[Özim]

The Theo situation is weird but I reckon he will struggle to displace Ox even if he does sign da ting. Ox is first choice for me now and I kind of get the impression Arsene sees him as first choice, he starts in all the big games. Ox brings a lot to this team, he was superb yesterday in the first half, tore them apart, he's done that a few times this season too.

Ox is a much more talented player than Theo, he's got it all and if he improves as he should he'll be some player.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I think the Ox is great, the press go on about Sterling but I really think the Ox is just as good. I guess it is because he doesn't quite get the run of games Sterling does and also isn't the focus of the Arsenal unlike Sterling.


I'd go along with that tbf. Though I'd say Sterling is better, and most people here will say Chamberlain is better. #bantz etc Sterling is, by necessity at first, our first choice starter which I don't think is quite the case for Chamberlain yet.

That and the fact Sterling is generally so direct and in a sense gung ho which automatically makes you a better Inglish yoof. Hence, Barkley being the next big thing.

Either way, they're both miles better than Januzaj.

*Reading what I've put I guess I don't really go along with it at all. Oh well.

[rodders]

What a great result however we give the ball away far too easily, just about every clearance went to a Man U player. Has Wenger got a thing about Walcott?

[mr_brighterside]

The United Keeper was incredible. Should be our next £40m purchase....

Great performance and result. Hopefully it'll give us a psychological advantage.

[GP]

I'd go along with that tbf. Though I'd say Sterling is better, and most people here will say Chamberlain is better. #bantz etc Sterling is, by necessity at first, our first choice starter which I don't think is quite the case for Chamberlain yet.

That and the fact Sterling is generally so direct and in a sense gung ho which automatically makes you a better Inglish yoof. Hence, Barkley being the next big thing.

Either way, they're both miles better than Januzaj.

*Reading what I've put I guess I don't really go along with it at all. Oh well.

Just looking at it through rose-cunted glasses.

[AFC Leveller]

Not to rail on Gibbs after that fantastic win, but he would most likely not have scored the Nacho goal. Gibbs is the better athlete but Monreal is the better footballer. Giroud would not have reached the ball on the 2nd goal either. Sometimes Wenger does get it right. Kudos!!!

exactly what i was thinking.

gibbs is nervous in the final third.

[Power n Glory]

Ox out for 4 weeks. Hamstring injury. FFS! What is it with this coaching staff? He's only been back fit for 5 minutes!

[Letters]

Ox is a much more talented player than Theo, he's got it all and if he improves as he should he'll be some player.
Although Theo isn't as bad as you make out he's not been quite the superstar we all hoped he'd be.
Ox is the player Theo should have been, IMO.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Only negative was Chesney. Thought he was a complete clown ........ selfish as fuck, taking too many unnecessary risks just to show off his skills. And his kicking and handling were atrocious as well.

No way is he going to get back in over Ospina at this rate.


Got to go all in for Cech this summer ........ or dare I say it .... De Gea or Lloris if Utd/Spurs drop out of the top four and they want to move to a bigger club.

Might be able to get Danny to have a word with him to entice him .

When quite a number on here were pining for Barkley on here early in the season I opined on the fact that the Ox is equally if not more talented.

That said....

I think we tend to overstate the Ox's powers on occasion despite his obvious abilities. He struggles for the same consistency people hammer Theo for and his end product varies far more greatly than Theo's does..... He has also shown that he cannot always be trusted.....at least not in midfield.

Before he went on his second mazy run, the latter of which resulted in us scoring he was having a very bad game, as was Welbeck. Credit to the two of them, they have the ability to work their way through it.

I get the argument that most see the Ox as more talented than Theo technically and I am certainly in agreement but he absolutely has to arrive first before we can become so nonchalant about various players leaving imo.

What Wenger has failed to appreciate at times of late is the difference in how oppositions set up and play when Theo is on the pitch. It leaves them really exposed to the high press tactic we seem to be increasingly facing these days too. Sometimes a way to relieve the defensive necessities is to bring on an attack minded solution. Particularly one with very unique and difficult to manage skill set to the opposition.

[GP]

I don't really remember anyone pining for Barkley.

He's not even as good as Wilshere.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I don't really remember anyone pining for Barkley.

He's not even as good as Wilshere.

BOBN tbf.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ox out for 4 weeks. Hamstring injury. FFS! What is it with this coaching staff? He's only been back fit for 5 minutes!

Keeps him out of the internationals.

WUMger. :bow:

[GP]

BOBN tbf.

Bonbon is insane though, tbf

[Niall_Quinn]

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[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ZY9sJe0rY&t=88

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I don't really remember anyone pining for Barkley.

He's not even as good as Wilshere.


This board doesn't rate Wilshere much so that isn't saying much.....but perhaps that was the point you were making?

[Power n Glory]

When quite a number on here were pining for Barkley on here early in the season I opined on the fact that the Ox is equally if not more talented.

That said....

I think we tend to overstate the Ox's powers on occasion despite his obvious abilities. He struggles for the same consistency people hammer Theo for and his end product varies far more greatly than Theo's does..... He has also shown that he cannot always be trusted.....at least not in midfield.

Before he went on his second mazy run, the latter of which resulted in us scoring he was having a very bad game, as was Welbeck. Credit to the two of them, they have the ability to work their way through it.

I get the argument that most see the Ox as more talented than Theo technically and I am certainly in agreement but he absolutely has to arrive first before we can become so nonchalant about various players leaving imo.

What Wenger has failed to appreciate at times of late is the difference in how oppositions set up and play when Theo is on the pitch. It leaves them really exposed to the high press tactic we seem to be increasingly facing these days too. Sometimes a way to relieve the defensive necessities is to bring on an attack minded solution. Particularly one with very unique and difficult to manage skill set to the opposition.

Agree with that. :gp:

[AFC Leveller]

The Ox is a huge talent, he has Pace and Power. He is a little bit injury prone right now and needs a run in the side to really push on.

The only time i have seen him struggle was against Saints where he looked like he didnt fancy going up against pacey FBs (Clyne and Bertrand) and didnt take them on or even attempt to. still young enough though and can be a big player for us.

[selassie]

Not to rail on Gibbs after that fantastic win, but he would most likely not have scored the Nacho goal. Gibbs is the better athlete but Monreal is the better footballer. Giroud would not have reached the ball on the 2nd goal either. Sometimes Wenger does get it right. Kudos!!!

Monreal has outperformed Gibbs by a mile this season. He's been one of our best player this season IMO.

[selassie]

Ox out for 4 weeks. Hamstring injury. FFS! What is it with this coaching staff? He's only been back fit for 5 minutes!

Only at Arsenal would we employ a Conditioning Specialist and see the number of injuries rise, you just couldn't make it up....

The amount of muscular injuries we have had this season is not even funny...it's bordering on disturbing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our victory on Monday has certainly thrown the media off our scent. It's a string of disasters at Utd now :haha: They are barely mentioning us, even the Ozil hit pieces have dried up.

[Dein-machine]

Although Theo isn't as bad as you make out he's not been quite the superstar we all hoped he'd be.
Ox is the player Theo should have been, IMO.

I'm more concerned that OX turns out to be the player that Theo is. They have a similar story as coming from Saints hailed as the next best thing. Ox obviously has time on his side but it worries me that Wenger likes him a a CM. Its all to tight for him in there & it doesn't give him the chance to use his real strength which is pace. The other worrying similarity is that there final ball is woefull, look at what OX did in the 1st half at O.T, no pressure, he can cross for a Welbeck tap in or have a low shot into the corner but instead comes up with a nothing dinked cross shot that goes over the bar. Look at Theo this year & he's one on one's with the keeper, he's been hopeless. We can't use the excuse of coming back from injury, a non-league striker would be finishing better than that. Another similarity is the constant injuries, OX is a more physical specimen that Theo so you would hope he wouldn't be as affected but again he's out for 4 weeks.
I really hope I'm wrong as I like OX & if he gets the confidence we're now seeing from the likes of Santi, being played regularly in his correct position, then I think he could become world class.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

When quite a number on here were pining for Barkley on here early in the season I opined on the fact that the Ox is equally if not more talented.

That said....

I think we tend to overstate the Ox's powers on occasion despite his obvious abilities. He struggles for the same consistency people hammer Theo for and his end product varies far more greatly than Theo's does..... He has also shown that he cannot always be trusted.....at least not in midfield.

Before he went on his second mazy run, the latter of which resulted in us scoring he was having a very bad game, as was Welbeck. Credit to the two of them, they have the ability to work their way through it.

I get the argument that most see the Ox as more talented than Theo technically and I am certainly in agreement but he absolutely has to arrive first before we can become so nonchalant about various players leaving imo.

What Wenger has failed to appreciate at times of late is the difference in how oppositions set up and play when Theo is on the pitch. It leaves them really exposed to the high press tactic we seem to be increasingly facing these days too. Sometimes a way to relieve the defensive necessities is to bring on an attack minded solution. Particularly one with very unique and difficult to manage skill set to the opposition.

Yeah I'd go for that. It should depend on the game and the qualities of the opponent right now. Teams that sit back may require Ox whereas teams that may try to press high, Theo is your man.

Mind you, if the Ox adds more end product to his game, namely more goals and has the Gareth Bale explosion season we all know he's capable of, I think he'll soon become one of the first names on the sheet and comfortably the better player.


Only at Arsenal would we employ a Conditioning Specialist and see the number of injuries rise, you just couldn't make it up....

The amount of muscular injuries we have had this season is not even funny...it's bordering on disturbing.

Was listening to the Arsecast Extra yesterday and apparently we are actively recruiting a "soft tissue" specialist so the club is aware of the problem and is trying to rectify it.

Too early to judge on Shad but thus far there hasn't been a remarkable decrease on the injury front; it's been just as bad. Though a lot of that is do to Wenger himself and him running players into the ground.


Our victory on Monday has certainly thrown the media off our scent. It's a string of disasters at Utd now :haha: They are barely mentioning us, even the Ozil hit pieces have dried up.

The media can't even dare to say Ozil is nicking a living now when you have clowns like Mata, Falcao and Di Maria all earning higher wages despite doing nothing. Looks like LVG is finally being exposed for the fraud he is.

[Power n Glory]

Although Theo isn't as bad as you make out he's not been quite the superstar we all hoped he'd be.
Ox is the player Theo should have been, IMO.

Wait...what? Ox is now the player Theo should have been? Do you know how crazy that sounds? Please explain.

[Niall_Quinn]

Many Utd fans seem to have settled on the idea they gifted us the win. I guess it hurts like hell and they are trying to find a way to soothe the pain. They ignore the fact a series of defensive errors led to their goal, we had a penalty denied and De Gea kept the score respectable. Vitally important we go there in the league and beat them again. They'll have nothing to cling to if we can stuff them twice and essentially they'll have swapped places with us as the big club going nowhere fast. If Liverpool and the gypos can beat them too, fuck that would be so sweet.

[fakeyank]

They can settle on anything.. we will settle on a SF spot.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Yeah I'd go for that. It should depend on the game and the qualities of the opponent right now. Teams that sit back may require Ox whereas teams that may try to press high, Theo is your man.

Mind you, if the Ox adds more end product to his game, namely more goals and has the Gareth Bale explosion season we all know he's capable of, I think he'll soon become one of the first names on the sheet and comfortably the better player.


That's quite a fitting distinction there and I would totally agree. This season, surprisingly we have come up against a lot of teams trying to press us high after years of moaning about teams sitting deep and frustrating us. In light of that alone it is strange Theo isn't playing more.

Also I don't mean to sound churlish but obviously when a team wins you can't criticise the manager's decisions......but we don't know that starting Giroud or Walcott would have resulted in us NOT winning the game. For all we know we might have beaten them by more. It's one of those things in football we sometimes seem to accept as an absolute when you win...but actually we don't know for sure that different players wouldn't have resulted in an even better result.

Either way though, you can't criticise the manager if you've just won, I can appreciate that, because what he did did NOT lose you the game.



Many Utd fans seem to have settled on the idea they gifted us the win. I guess it hurts like hell and they are trying to find a way to soothe the pain. They ignore the fact a series of defensive errors led to their goal, we had a penalty denied and De Gea kept the score respectable. Vitally important we go there in the league and beat them again. They'll have nothing to cling to if we can stuff them twice and essentially they'll have swapped places with us as the big club going nowhere fast. If Liverpool and the gypos can beat them too, fuck that would be so sweet.

They will always try and cling on to something....

[Bumble]

I heard a theory today that the reason Theo isn't playing as much is because of the Debuchy injury and the risk of having a non-defensive Theo with Bellerin behind is a bit too risky. Sort of makes a bit of sense but also does show that Theo cant be trusted to adapt.

There are also rumours that contract negotiations have stalled, if that is the case as I can see perhaps someone like Liverpool coming in for him otherwise he really isn't going to anywhere decent. As he will get game time, he is just unlucky that he got injured when Giroud was also injured but he is no fit where we have options.

Also as we have been winning more often than not and don't need to chase the game but also normally only protecting a one goal lead Theo is not really an option off the bench.

[Penguin]

Ox has well and truly overtaken Theo IMO. He does so much more, and the only thing missing now is the goals.

Theo is a niche player who's good in his own unique role, but limits himself so much. It's all well and good that he plays on the shoulder and tries to break the offside trap, but why limit himself to that role? He doesn't even try to get involved at all in the build up any more, it's like having Pippo Inzaghi on the wing.

That might be good for us in a way because we don't have many runners in our team, but the best wide forwards can make those runs and drop deeper and make something happen depending on the situation. Even centre forwards have evolved now and are rarely 'just' poachers. Maybe it's a planned tactic because Theo isn't blessed with great skill on the ball or passing ability, but I still don't like it.

Ox on the other hand is developing into a beast. He takes the initiative, takes risks and frightens defenders when he's running at them. If he adds goals to his game I can't see Theo getting his place back.

[Power n Glory]

'Overtaken'.....:haha: How is that even possible?

[Penguin]

http://endlesspicdump.com/original/overtake%20formula%201.gif

[adzzzbatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM747L9Wf8M

How the times have changed!

[Injury Time]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM747L9Wf8M

How the times have changed!
Some things haven't
http://metro.co.uk/2015/03/09/this-picture-shows-michael-oliver-was-very-harsh-to-send-off-manchester-uniteds-angel-di-maria-v-arsenal-5095629/

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM747L9Wf8M

How the times have changed!

Riley is the most extreme example of a Utd ref. 7 pens awarded to Utd in the previous 7 games he reffed at OT? That should have been enough to get him kicked out of the game but Utd owned the refs, the media, the pundits and the authorities back then. Or rather Ferguson did. One day maybe somebody will go through every one of their matches from that era and figure out how many titles and cups they would have missed out on had the refs played by the rules.

Through it all, the one constant, Rooney's diving. What a fucking disgrace of a player he is and always has been.

[AFC Leveller]

Ox has well and truly overtaken Theo IMO. He does so much more, and the only thing missing now is the goals.

Theo is a niche player who's good in his own unique role, but limits himself so much. It's all well and good that he plays on the shoulder and tries to break the offside trap, but why limit himself to that role? He doesn't even try to get involved at all in the build up any more, it's like having Pippo Inzaghi on the wing.

That might be good for us in a way because we don't have many runners in our team, but the best wide forwards can make those runs and drop deeper and make something happen depending on the situation. Even centre forwards have evolved now and are rarely 'just' poachers. Maybe it's a planned tactic because Theo isn't blessed with great skill on the ball or passing ability, but I still don't like it.

Ox on the other hand is developing into a beast. He takes the initiative, takes risks and frightens defenders when he's running at them. If he adds goals to his game I can't see Theo getting his place back.

Thay is key. He is on the peripheral during the game and although he does get goals, his game is all about making runs and beating the offside trap.

When the alternative (ox) offers you so much more, its no wonder wenger doesnt use theo no more.

[Marc Overmars]

Ox is great but I'd say he blows hot and cold just as much as Theo really. His passing and delivery can often be wayward but he's got years ahead of him to fine tune that and like Theo, injuries have curtailed his development and impact.

They're different players in truth, Theo is probably more one dimensional but that doesn't mean what he can provide isn't effective and shouldn't be utilised more often. I just think it's a shame that now we actually have a bit of squad depth we don't seem to be making the best use of it. Some are even comfortable with the idea of letting Theo go which I don't understand personally.

[Power n Glory]

Thay is key. He is on the peripheral during the game and although he does get goals, his game is all about making runs and beating the offside trap.

When the alternative (ox) offers you so much more, its no wonder wenger doesnt use theo no more.

Wenger's the one who's been encouraging Theo to change his style of play. In some interviews, I've heard Theo say he's studying Ljungberg videos and remember constantly talking up his off the ball movement and even saying he's better at it than Messi. Some examples below.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-walcott-is-developing-ahead-of-messsi
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-vs-arsenal-theo-walcott-5118032
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/7601344/Theo-Walcott-No-more-excuses-for-Arsenals-lack-of-silverware.html

When Theo was younger he'd hug the byline, play from deep and keep having a go at our opponents wingbacks no matter how many times he'd get clattered. Since Theo wants top be a striker and not a winger, I'm guessing playing on the shoulder of defenders wide is some sort of compromise. His goal tally has shot up since. 21 goals in 2012/13 is something else. How can you not want that sort of fire power in the line up? Ox can be a handful when playing well but I can't say he offers much more.

No idea why Wenger hasn't implemented a two striker system yet because it's not as if we're getting the very best out of our 3 man midfield. But either way, I think Theo would be smart to move on because he's been ushered down this wide forward path when he should have been developed as a striker. It's like Wenger has built him up for for this special custom made role but now has no use for him.

[AFC Leveller]

Wenger's the one who's been encouraging Theo to change his style of play. In some interviews, I've heard Theo say he's studying Ljungberg videos and remember constantly talking up his off the ball movement and even saying he's better at it than Messi. Some examples below.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-walcott-is-developing-ahead-of-messsi
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-vs-arsenal-theo-walcott-5118032
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/7601344/Theo-Walcott-No-more-excuses-for-Arsenals-lack-of-silverware.html

When Theo was younger he'd hug the byline, play from deep and keep having a go at our opponents wingbacks no matter how many times he'd get clattered. Since Theo wants top be a striker and not a winger, I'm guessing playing on the shoulder of defenders wide is some sort of compromise. His goal tally has shot up since. 21 goals in 2012/13 is something else. How can you not want that sort of fire power in the line up? Ox can be a handful when playing well but I can't say he offers much more.

No idea why Wenger hasn't implemented a two striker system yet because it's not as if we're getting the very best out of our 3 man midfield. But either way, I think Theo would be smart to move on because he's been ushered down this wide forward path when he should have been developed as a striker. It's like Wenger has built him up for for this special custom made role but now has no use for him.

The Ox offers much more than Theo and is a real modern winger. He runs WITH the ball and has a burst of pace that can get him away from any defender. He tracks back too and his crosses and final ball in general have improved this year. Theo on the other hand gets goals and that because he makes about 10 to 15 runs a game and his timing his really good. apart from that though, he doesnt run with the ball at all this days and as soon as he gets it, he gives it to the right back or CM nearest to him and off his goes looking for the ball in behind. You are right that 2 or 3 years agp he was more of a winger who could get you goals but his game has changed since we changed our formation to 3 attackers.

I can see Theo leaving and thriving for a team like Liverpool. if it were up to me id keep him though and make space for him because his numbers are impressive but as a starter of ahead of the Ox, no.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM747L9Wf8M

How the times have changed!

Just fuhking made me angry all over again!!! fuhk me!

[mastermind84]

No idea why Wenger hasn't implemented a two striker system yet because it's not as if we're getting the very best out of our 3 man midfield. But either way, I think Theo would be smart to move on because he's been ushered down this wide forward path when he should have been developed as a striker. It's like Wenger has built him up for for this special custom made role but now has no use for him.
When I read a statement like this, I often wonder what matches you are watching.

the midfield is the reason the team has dramatically improved in 2015. That on top of playing off the ball.

Theo isn't strong enough or technically good enough to play CF, and we should not be going back to a 2 man midfield.

Theo's best hope at high level football consistently is at Arsenal.

[Power n Glory]

When I read a statement like this, I often wonder what matches you are watching.

the midfield is the reason the team has dramatically improved in 2015. That on top of playing off the ball.

Theo isn't strong enough or technically good enough to play CF, and we should not be going back to a 2 man midfield.

Theo's best hope at high level football consistently is at Arsenal.

Hell, I've often read your posts and find your username hilarious. You should think about changing it.

[mastermind84]

Hell, I've often read your posts and find your username hilarious. You should think about changing it.

Cool, still doesn't chance how brutally wrong your post was.

[Power n Glory]

Cool, still doesn't chance how brutally wrong your post was.

How is it wrong? It's down to perspective. The midfield hasn't dramatically improved because of the 3 man system. It's improved because we've introduced Coquelin and Cazorla. If it weren't for injuries, we'd still be playing Arteta/Flamini, Ramsey and Wilshere as the trio and still losing. It's not the system that works, it's the change in personnel. Coquelin and Cazorla have been sensational. Ozil and Ramsey have been functional in the 3 man system but not close to being at there best or essential to making us tick. I think we should be trying to adjust to get more out of key players.

Example, shoving Welbeck, Ozil and Theo out on the wing makes no sense to me. We lose a good chunk of what each player can offer by shoving them out wide. At least if we’d adapt a two man up front system, we could get a Giroud/Theo/Welbeck partnership going. Giroud’s good at the physical link up play, Theo’s good at making runs behind and finishing. Welbeck also has a desire to play up front and we should be trying develop that. Heck, it may even be worth trying to get Ozil to play behind the striker instead of playing him wide because we usually have better players on the bench for that. No need to be so rigid.

As for Theo as striker, you don’t know until he gets a run of games there. Be dismissive if you want, but I’ve seen people be just as dismissive about Coquelin’s ability as a DM at the start of the season only to be proven wrong. If it weren’t for injuries, the kid wold have never been given a shot.

[mastermind84]

How is it wrong? It's down to perspective. The midfield hasn't dramatically improved because of the 3 man system. It's improved because we've introduced Coquelin and Cazorla. If it weren't for injuries, we'd still be playing Arteta/Flamini, Ramsey and Wilshere as the trio and still losing. It's not the system that works, it's the change in personnel. Coquelin and Cazorla have been sensational. Ozil and Ramsey have been functional in the 3 man system but not close to being at there best or essential to making us tick. I think we should be trying to adjust to get more out of key players.
and the system gets the best out of the personnel.

Imagine Cazorla in a 2-man midfield for a second. Imagine how ran over we would be?


Example, shoving Welbeck, Ozil and Theo out on the wing makes no sense to me. We lose a good chunk of what each player can offer by shoving them out wide. At least if we’d adapt a two man up front system, we could get a Giroud/Theo/Welbeck partnership going. Giroud’s good at the physical link up play, Theo’s good at making runs behind and finishing. Welbeck also has a desire to play up front and we should be trying develop that. Heck, it may even be worth trying to get Ozil to play behind the striker instead of playing him wide because we usually have better players on the bench for that. No need to be so rigid.
Welbeck cant finish, Theo is weak and not good in tight spaces, and Ozil isnt a goal threat.

Id favor it if we had a physically stronger midfield, but we dont.

We would also be going against teams with 3 man midfields against our two.


As for Theo as striker, you don’t know until he gets a run of games there. Be dismissive if you want, but I’ve seen people be just as dismissive about Coquelin’s ability as a DM at the start of the season only to be proven wrong. If it weren’t for injuries, the kid wold have never been given a shot.
Coquelin had to make his game simple to make a name for himself.

Theo is just not good enough in tight spaces.

If we had a guy like Pogba to pair with Ramsey, id be all for it, but we do not.

[Power n Glory]

Coquelin just needed a run of games. He was good before going out on loan to German from what I recall but never never given a chance because Wenger preferred Arteta. If Arteta and Flamini weren't injured, nobody would of heard of him.

As for Cazorla in a two man midfield, bad example. Did you not see him against the two Manchester teams? He can battle.

Also, I'm not talking about a flat 4-4-2 or even suggesting we play that every game. Experiment with a diamond, mess around with a 4-5-1 so we have a player in the hole that can link up with the striker.

Theo not good enough in tight spaces....that Newcastle goal? He's not the best technically but he's a player that operates best in and around the box. That's where you see the best of him, not from outside in the midfield. Welbeck is probably the same. It's a waste putting them on the wing. That's why I say it's best they move on if that's our plan for them.

Also, our midfield isn't even strong now. Ozil hardly tackles and we've had games where it's been Cazorla and Coquelin doing a good chunk of the work in the middle. I don't understand the rigid attitude some of you have as if we're getting the very best out of this squad. You haven't even seen all the options but make wide assumptions as if you have. Just like some did with Coquelin.

[Niall_Quinn]

People who think we can do without Ozil or he's a lazy player or he shirks his responsibilities are dreaming. Since he's been back from injury he's performed at a consistently high level and when we're firing as a team he's generally at the middle of it.

Check this out. The running, tackling, passing, vision, ability in tight spaces, it's all there. A super player and we're fortunate to have him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYmYgChl4E

[AFC Leveller]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/p75x225/1011248_841952789204799_6692579256518645676_n.jpg? oh=9d46aa0c36cc17fabc49b66f24d0a50a&oe=55B7A113&__gda__=1438377303_c906146aa60ce9982e5a4f66b147611 6

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

People generally think we can do without anybody apart from Alexis and maybe Koscielny....the latter of which our fans think is the best in the world but won't say it openly for fear of it seeming silly.

[Marc Overmars]

I don't think it's that silly really to say Kos is one of the best centre backs in the business.

[GP]

Not as god as Kompany haha lol jk

[AFC Leveller]

There is a reason why Bayern begged us to sell him. And that was 2 years ago, today he is even better.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I don't think it's that silly really to say Kos is one of the best centre backs in the business.

That's not what is being suggested.

[Injury Time]

People who think we can do without Ozil or he's a lazy player or he shirks his responsibilities are dreaming. Since he's been back from injury he's performed at a consistently high level and when we're firing as a team he's generally at the middle of it.

Check this out. The running, tackling, passing, vision, ability in tight spaces, it's all there. A super player and we're fortunate to have him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCYmYgChl4E

For me that's where he's stepped up, IMHO a lot of the criticism stemmed from not tackling when lost posession or when play broke down in front of him, there was glimpses against Citeh at home he turned it on for 5 mins put a tackle in, attacked directly and we scored; previously he would jog by the player watch them and give up, now he's adding to midfield defensively as well as the creative bit we know he can do (and perhaps others are now on his wavelength).

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If he does nothing else defensively, he should try to win the balls back he has just lost.... and be in position when we don't have the ball. If he does that I can live without the marauding runs back to make a clean tackle from behind.....though ironically that is usually what is needed if you've just lost the ball.