Match Reaction vs Chelsea (neutral)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pre-season treble. :bow:

Another title.

Wenger gives Mourinho a good beating.

[PGFC]

Meaningless :coffee:

[AFC Leveller]

Huge win, beating maureen in a meaninglful game is huge. he will be seething right now.

well done boys, great start to the season.

[Marc Overmars]

Arsenal. :bow:

Mourinho. :haha:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Finally beaten that disingenuous turd

[Maestro]

FUCK OFF MOURINHO YOU CUNT

Well Done Boys, now come on Wenger add a couple of good quality signings please

[Letters]

The Quintuple is ON!

[Niall_Quinn]

I think the two main talking points, Falcoa is BACK! Amazing from him. And what can you say about Azzah? Sublime.

[Niall_Quinn]

Winning is a habit and so far we have the habit. Let's keep lifting the trophies all season long.

[Maestro]

Have a good look Terry, you crying cunt

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hit him Wenger!

[Maestro]

FUCK OFF MOURINHO, don't shake our hands

[Niall_Quinn]

What's Maureen up to now? How far will he go to hog the limelight?

[adzzzbatch]

Chucking his losers medal into the crowd what a cunt.

[Marc Overmars]

Insincere handshakes from Mourinho just to keep himself in the limelight in defeat. What a cunt.

[adzzzbatch]

Insincere handshakes from Mourinho just to keep himself in the limelight in defeat. What a cunt.

Completely ignored and walked away from Arsene.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maureen, whatever he does, what a cunt.

[Niall_Quinn]

Completely ignored and walked away from Arsene.

That's because he's pure class.

[Maestro]

beat them with their azzard and without out superstar

go and die you cunts

[adzzzbatch]

dignified? :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Did that twat just call a little kid a loser on TV?

[Niall_Quinn]

We defended with 10 men :haha:

Is he serious?

[adzzzbatch]

what. a. cunt.

[Niall_Quinn]

what. a. cunt.

He really is, isn't he? Rivalry aside, he's just a cunt.

[Niall_Quinn]

They're showing the chav misses before the goal? :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yes yes ... Team 🏆👏 I want more successful!!!

Alexis. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Would have been very different if Costa had been playing. Easily 4-0 to the chavs. And we had the added advantage of Alexis not playing. So it was all against the chavs really.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mourinho's thoughts? "The best team lost".

:haha:

Suck it up you arsehole.

[Syn]

Mourinho's thoughts? "The best team lost".

:haha:

Suck it up you arsehole.

Should ban any cunt that has a good word to say about him. He's a pathetic little man.

[Syn]

https://vine.co/v/eHMaVHDzvmP

Wenger blanks him twice.

This shaking hands bollocks is stupid. Why would you want to shake hands with a pathetic little shit that moans about you all day in the press.

[Munchies]

Maureen :haha:

JT :haha:

Cisc :haha:

Cech :bow:

Defence :bow:

Ox :bow:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That's what I like to hear, the fact that he thinks the better side lost shows this defeat has ruffled him.

He will hate losing to Wenger, he considers him inferior to him and this will hurt.

[Kano]

One minute Wenger was there and then

https://vine.co/v/MHpHdxiO7TV

[Munchies]

https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11325394_1479468532368097_2142874430_n.jpg

Keane :pal:

[Niall_Quinn]

That's what I like to hear, the fact that he thinks the better side lost shows this defeat has ruffled him.

He will hate losing to Wenger, he considers him inferior to him and this will hurt.

Yep, we are celebrating, they are making excuses, that's the way it should be.

[Letters]

He really is, isn't he? Rivalry aside, he's just a cunt.

Horrible, horrible team. From the owner to the manager to the players to the fans.
No redeeming features whatsoever.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It takes somebody special to lose a final against a Specialist in Failure.

[Master Splinter]

"They had a couple of chances in counter attacks but we had ours in organised football."


Organised football? Is that what this loathsome manchild has had his teams playing over the years? I thought I had been watching expensively-assembled teams and talented players reduced to the role of backstreet thugs who are instructed to do anything in order to stop rivals big and small playing their organised football.

[Munchies]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLatDNZWEAEiANw.jpg

[Letters]

It's good to see Mourinho rattled by us and Wenger. It was always worrying when Fergie was nice about us, it showed he didn't see us as a threat.

[Munchies]

https://twitter.com/Alexis_Sanchez/status/627874196908048384

:bow:

Alexis - Winner

[Gooner23]

I kind of wished Wenger had shaken his hand, with a massive grin on his face.

Any win over these scumbags is delightful. They truly are a loathsome club in all aspects.

[Penguin]

Mourinho doesn't deserve a handshake. I'd have been happier if our players blanked him too.

[AFC Leveller]

This win is made even more special by the fact that maureen is about to commit suicide.

[Niall_Quinn]

I kind of wished Wenger had shaken his hand, with a massive grin on his face.

Any win over these scumbags is delightful. They truly are a loathsome club in all aspects.

I kinda wished Wenger had punched him in the face.

[Syn]

Didn't think it would be a #gamechanger like Windows 10, but JayTee was right. Cech could save us 12-15 points. Unbelievable presence, pace and desire.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

lol Daily Heil already painting Wenger as the villian in the piece.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3183106/Arsene-Wenger-snubs-Jose-Mourinho-TWICE-Chelsea-boss-shakes-hands-Arsenal-player-Wembley.html

Nothing about what an utter disrespectful and repugnant cunt Mourinho has been to Arsene over the years.

[Injury Time]

I kinda wished Wenger had punched Letter in the balls.

Is that why he gave up the season ticket?

[fakeyank]

I'm so glad that we beat the cunts. I despise them more than Spurs and I think Mourinho is a man I can honestly say that I actually hate. Hope he gets infected with ebola in his balls!

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[Munchies]

lol Daily Heil already painting Wenger as the villian in the piece.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3183106/Arsene-Wenger-snubs-Jose-Mourinho-TWICE-Chelsea-boss-shakes-hands-Arsenal-player-Wembley.html

Nothing about what an utter disrespectful and repugnant cunt Mourinho has been to Arsene over the years.

Just saw that now :haha:

[Munchies]

I'm so glad that we beat the cunts. I despise them more than Spurs and I think Mourinho is a man I can honestly say that I actually hate. Hope he gets infected with ebola in his balls!

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:gp:

I hate Chelsea more than Spurs too.

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/lgPKwvw.png

[GP]

http://streamable.com/ri9a

[GP]

http://i.imgur.com/wzyC1Fs.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

lol Daily Heil already painting Wenger as the villian in the piece.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3183106/Arsene-Wenger-snubs-Jose-Mourinho-TWICE-Chelsea-boss-shakes-hands-Arsenal-player-Wembley.html

Nothing about what an utter disrespectful and repugnant cunt Mourinho has been to Arsene over the years.

Mail will be in a panic. All the creative heads of fantasy will be in trying to spin this as Ozil being anonymous.

[Power n Glory]

I small victory in the first of many battles but a sweet. Fuck BT Sport by the way. Missed this game so can't say much at all. Just good to see us wind up Jose.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I small victory in the first of many battles but a sweet. Fuck BT Sport by the way. Missed this game so can't say much at all. Just good to see us wind up Jose.

As an indicator of how the season will go it tells us absolutely nothing, but I think it's important to prove we can beat that clinical narcaccist.
In the past be it league cup, league or community shield we have come up short every time.
But yeah agree one battle from many.

[alexander]

I know its only the community shield, but we had a near full team out there, only alexis missing, and so did they, bar Costa. They wanted to win, it was a tough, but we beat them fair and square. Its the confidence they seem to have at the mo that pleases me, long may it continue.
As for the non-handshake, well i dont blame Wenger. Mour has done nothing but bad mouth him/arsenal in the press over and over, while wenger just took it. Wenger must be soooo happy to beat that moaning little fucktard.

[selassie]

Felt we played quite well, we defended very well and broke with poise. In the grand scheme of things winning the Community Shield doesn't mean a lot but the fact we ground out a win and beat them can only be good for team morale and belief.

Mentality this team looks ready to me, we just need to be consitent and get off to a good start. If we keep a relatively fit squad together then I maintain we should at the very least put in a proper title challenge.

[Kano]

This really got to that snivelling little prick today. That whole thing at the end was designed purposely to highlight Wenger not shaking his hand because he couldn't handle the defeat. Wenger avoided him at the end of the game and he waited and waited because he couldn't get over the fact that even in victory, Wenger didn't want to press palms. So sit and wait in front of all the camera's, make himself look 'dignified' and force Wenger into a handshake, to gain a little victory because he couldn't on the pitch, or try to make Wenger look bad. He just can't get rid of that superiority complex that obsesses him.

[Munchies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy1V8KoYpTA

Arsenal fan tv vid with Moh

[Niall_Quinn]

Said best by Aaron Ramsey:


Start as you mean to go on... #AFC pic.twitter.com/c59EgaejXr
— Aaron Ramsey (@aaronramsey) August 2, 2015

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The highlights on at 10:30pm on BBC1.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Love the win, love the Cech and Per love in. Mourinho put in his rightful place. Better late than never....

[Syn]

He might be a bitter twat but Roy Keane does come out with some cracking statements. 'Selfies and six-packs' will stand the test of time.

Will be watching at 10.30 on mute, fapping at Mourinho's tears. Have no quickly accessible porn stash as I have Windows 7.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Monreal flattened Cahill. :lol:

[Maestro]

Monreal flattened Cahill. :lol:

well done nachos and per flattened Cesc, that's how to play these cunts ...rough em up

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ox. :bow:

I liked Mesut's pass to Theo too.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Danny Murphy with Power, Pace bingo.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

well done nachos and per flattened Cesc, that's how to play these cunts ...rough em up

They don't like it up'em!!!!!!

[Maestro]

Bellerin was really poor today

[Maestro]

They don't like it up'em!!!!!!

arsenal mkII :d

[McNamara That Ghost...]

A real coup signing Methuselah apparently.

[Letters]

Anyone seen Zim?

[Maestro]

nachos flattens ivanovic, good boy nachos

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm so glad that we beat the cunts. I despise them more than Spurs and I think Mourinho is a man I can honestly say that I actually hate. Hope he gets infected with ebola in his minge!!

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Fixed your post.

[Maestro]

nachos takes out falcao

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ivanovic. :haha:

What a clown.

[Maestro]

Ivanovic. :haha:

What a cunt

true

[Maestro]

nachos blocks falcao

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arsenal. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Keown thinks Mourinho has worked his magic on Falcao already. :wacko:

[Syn]

Garbage judgement from Keown in general - for a change. Not sure why he's grouping Wenger together with a cunt like Mourinho.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Very poor post match analysis. The discussion on handshakegate was overdone yet still avoided any mention of context. In what world would anyone subjected to years of bile want to shake that narcissistic scroate's hand and who in their right mind would expect Wenger to do so?

Well done Wenger.

[Heisenberg]

A handshake is undermined if the parties concerned don't like or respect one another. If it's disingenuous, why bother with the charade? Also, more pertinently, Mourinho is a total dick.

[Static]

http://i.imgur.com/lgPKwvw.png
Aahhahahaaa that's hilarious. Merts in the second picture looks like a lunatic.

[Niall_Quinn]

Garbage judgement from Keown in general - for a change. Not sure why he's grouping Wenger together with a cunt like Mourinho.

Yeah, he's turning into a massive twat tbf. Who wants to shake hands with a wanker who insults you all year long? I mean he's only called him a paedophile and a specialist in failure, so what the fuck is Wenger's problem?

Wenger should be applauded for not kicking the little bitch in the balls. But like any grinning, middle of the road idiot, Keown and most of his co-dribblers just want to be "mature" about these things. Can't have an opinion that deviates a single degree from the line being shat out by the PC crowd.

[Niall_Quinn]

Keown thinks Mourinho has worked his magic on Falcao already. :wacko:

I think a memo has gone around. Must have come in the same envelope with the instructions on how to incessantly apologise for azzah.

[Marc Overmars]

This really got to that snivelling little prick today. That whole thing at the end was designed purposely to highlight Wenger not shaking his hand because he couldn't handle the defeat. Wenger avoided him at the end of the game and he waited and waited because he couldn't get over the fact that even in victory, Wenger didn't want to press palms. So sit and wait in front of all the camera's, make himself look 'dignified' and force Wenger into a handshake, to gain a little victory because he couldn't on the pitch, or try to make Wenger look bad. He just can't get rid of that superiority complex that obsesses him.

Yep, everything he does and says is transparent as fuck.

Glad Wenger didn't give him the time of day. You can only imagine how butt hurt he'd be if we won the league. :pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Oh, and Cech is great. Classy keeper and he seems to be brilliant for the dressing room. Top, top pro.

No idea why people had reservations about getting him. A slam dunk of a signing.

[GP]

Yep, you never have any fear that he's going to fuck up.

Chelsea sold us their best goalkeeper :haha:

[AFC Leveller]

Yep, you never have any fear that he's going to fuck up.

Chelsea sold us their best goalkeeper :haha:

Thats actually true :lol:

[LDG]

Chelsea fans in the office.

"Didn't watch it as don't regard it as a trophy"

:lol:

Cunts

[Letters]

Chelsea are literally the worst team in football.
I actually do detest them more than Spurs, they have zero redeeming features.



At least Spurs had Teddy.
Oh shut up.

[Bumble]

Can you imagine if Cech regularly wins us points..... Mourinho is going to explode with rage... it will be hilarious.

I thought we played pretty well yesterday and we did beat them Chelsea style by sitting back soaking up the pressure... letting them have pointless possession. Hazard should have scored but having Cech in goal put the pressure on. Cech for player of the year as we do the league and cup double.

Or is that taking things a little too far?

[Niall_Quinn]

Alan Smith's ratings. What an arse.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/02/arsenal-chelsea-community-shield-player-ratings

Ozil 5, Hazard 6

There's a fashionable prejudice across the whole media, even among ex-pros. I think they only see the TV moments and have forgotten to watch the rest of the game, even though some of them used to play it week-in, week-out. Even then, how do they rate Hazard that highly after his own embarrassing TV moment?

For me one of the sweetest aspects of stuffing those despicable chavs is the media hacks and thicko pundits crying in their breakfast vodkas this morning.

[Özim]

Didn't see the match, very good result however and we finally beat Chelsea after years of trying, the one caveat being that this won't necessarily represent how the season goes, remember Man U getting thrashed by Newcastle 4 or 5 nil and then doing then thrashing them 5-0 in the first fixture between the two sides in the league.

A nice bonus and good to get a trophy, but the hard work starts next week.

As for the opinions like I said didn't see the match, but people are entitled to their opinion, Smith and Keown are entitled to say what they think, they're Arsenal through and through.

[Niall_Quinn]

They are media through and through. Yes, they are perfectly entitled to say what they think. So I wonder why they never do it, preferring instead the set menu?

[Bumble]

They are media through and through. Yes, they are perfectly entitled to say what they think. So I wonder why they never do it, preferring instead the set menu?

Keown I rate as a pundit, he seems pretty fair. Smith though always seems a bit anti-arsenal.... like he is trying too hard to not sound biased towards Arsenal that it swings the other way.

[PGFC]

Chelsea fans in the office.

"Didn't watch it as don't regard it as a trophy"

:lol:

Cunts


Didn't see the match, very good result however and we finally beat Chelsea after years of trying, the one caveat being that this won't necessarily represent how the season goes, remember Man U getting thrashed by Newcastle 4 or 5 nil and then doing then thrashing them 5-0 in the first fixture between the two sides in the league.

A nice bonus and good to get a trophy, but the hard work starts next week.

As for the opinions like I said didn't see the match, but people are entitled to their opinion, Smith and Keown are entitled to say what they think, they're Arsenal through and through.

Is there some correlation here? the truth should be told.

[Power n Glory]

I don't think many people watched it because it was on BT Sport. Champs League will go the same way. Can't believe they have all the rights. What about highlights?

[fakeyank]

Sick of the media making a mountain out of the handshake crap... its a fucking handshake, get the fuck over it! I think there is a lot of positives to take from this, and the squad should ignore the bollocks in the papers and realize that they have it in them to be PL champions. We have a smashing squad and barring injuries and stupidity, this squad should seriously challenge for the PL.

[fakeyank]

Is there some correlation here? the truth should be told.

:haha:

[Kano]

I don't think many people watched it because it was on BT Sport. Champs League will go the same way. Can't believe they have all the rights. What about highlights?

Just stream it like millions of others do. I'm glad they've got it because Sky held a monopoly for too long and needed a kick up their arse. Hopefully finally having some real competition will benefit the consumer in the end with better pricing and service. Maybe that won't happen but at least they've been given something to think about at last.

[Power n Glory]

The quality of most streams are poor. I'm sure I'll watch some of the bigger games on streams but in no hurry to purchase BT sports.

You could at least watch games on ITV. Sky didn't have a monopoly on the Champs League at least. Now it's swung the other way with BT Sport having a true monopoly. It's not better for customers at all. Sky won't drop their prices and neither will BT. It means customers have to pay more for both or choose one and go without. It's not like the energy market where you can switch providers for a cheaper deal but get the same product.

[Bumble]

I have BT Sports but through the broadband offer. The problem with more competition is that you need more channels to watch it which costs more money. If Sky held everything then even if they raised prices it wouldn't cost more than having Sky and BT combined. So the customer is actually better off.

I know everyone in the football world is greedy but I do think it would have been a good idea to offer say one of the Premier League packages to terrestrial tv and they bid against each other. When the premier league is earning so much from all the packages 1/2bn isn't actually going to make much difference as most of the money ends up with the players anyway and doesn't exactly enhance the long term future of the game.

[Syn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CLgvpipUkAAON6R.mp4
https://twitter.com/OneArsenal2014/status/628579183841701888

OMFG.

[Marc Overmars]

Wenger. :bow:

[Maestro]

you can literally hear wenger murmuring "cunting dickhead" under his breath

[Letters]

I really, really despise Mourinho. Almost, but not quite, as much as Zim despises Wenger.
It's almost unhealthy how much I dislike him.
He is Chelsea personified, horrible club, horrible fans, horrible players, horrible owner, horrible horrible manager.

I used to think Wenger was being a dick not shaking hands in some situations - and at times he has been graceless and it seemed like sour grapes after a poor result. But he was spot on on Sunday. Mourinho has shown Wenger no respect, endless unnecessary jibes. I wouldn't have shaken his hand either. Wenger did the dignified thing.

[Niall_Quinn]

So it looks like this handshake thing is keeping the drunken retard journos occupied.

Breaking - Deadly Rivals Who Hate Each Other's Guts Refuse to Shake Hands!", right up there with, "Shock As AIDS Ravaged Convicted Rapist Gets No Cards On Valentines!"

[Syn]

He's a child. He's no master manipulator, he's just a pathetic sack of shit. The annoying part isn't actually Mourinho himself. A monumental cunt won't wind you up if the prevailing opinion is that he is a cunt and nobody takes him seriously. Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan etc. - they won't make you blood boil. It's that his lowbrow antics are entertaining for the majority of football fans who could just as easily be distracted with shiny objects. So journalists want to keep him happy and he's not really called out on being a cunt. The average football fan is an idiot that gets spoonfed opinions from Talksport. Mourinhos would be heavily criticised in cricket and tennis. Average intelligence of viewership is on a different level.

[Letters]

He's a child. He's no master manipulator, he's just a pathetic sack of shit. The annoying part isn't actually Mourinho himself. A monumental cunt won't wind you up if the prevailing opinion is that he is a cunt and nobody takes him seriously. Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan etc. - they won't make you blood boil. It's that his lowbrow antics are entertaining for the majority of football fans who could just as easily be distracted with shiny objects. So journalists want to keep him happy and he's not really called out on being a cunt. The average football fan is an idiot that gets spoonfed opinions from Talksport. Mourinhos would be heavily criticised in cricket and tennis. Average intelligence of viewership is on a different level.

:gp:

[Power n Glory]

He's a child. He's no master manipulator, he's just a pathetic sack of shit. The annoying part isn't actually Mourinho himself. A monumental cunt won't wind you up if the prevailing opinion is that he is a cunt and nobody takes him seriously. Nigel Farage, Piers Morgan etc. - they won't make you blood boil. It's that his lowbrow antics are entertaining for the majority of football fans who could just as easily be distracted with shiny objects. So journalists want to keep him happy and he's not really called out on being a cunt. The average football fan is an idiot that gets spoonfed opinions from Talksport. Mourinhos would be heavily criticised in cricket and tennis. Average intelligence of viewership is on a different level.

If this were cricket or tennis, wouldn’t Wenger be vilified for refusing to shake hands as well? They’re even more strict about sports and ‘gentlemanly conduct’. I thought we were trying to get away from fake gestures?

This has nothing to do with levels of intelligence and we’re moving into that old argument relating to class/sport and generalising. In fact, if we’re going to talk about fans being led by the media, I find it odd how a lot of people seem to be kissing Fergie’s ass and the following the tabloid rhetoric when most Arsenal fans couldn’t stand his guts. I never liked the guy. Zero personality and little tyrant on a power trip. But each to their own.

I don’t have a major problem with Maureen. When he speaks his mind and comes back with a witty un PC response, it breaks the norm. It’s funny and it’s similar to why I enjoy Wenger’s witty remarks when he makes them. The press love Wenger when he makes witty jab and that’s how he should treat Jose. No false outrage just jab back and poke fun at him. Give as good as you get. It’s partly why I find that exaggerated Adebayor celebration in front our fans so funny. Or why that Ox response about bringing back Bendtner was so hilarious. It’s a break away from the usual generic responses we often see in football.

[Syn]

If this were cricket or tennis, wouldn’t Wenger be vilified for refusing to shake hands as well? They’re even more strict about sports and ‘gentlemanly conduct’. I thought we were trying to get away from fake gestures?

No, Wenger wouldn't be criticised. Because the prevailing opinion would be Mourinho's a cunt. Getting away from 'fake gestures' would mean not having to shake hands with a cunt.


This has nothing to do with levels of intelligence and we’re moving into that old argument relating to class/sport and generalising. In fact, if we’re going to talk about fans being led by the media, I find it odd how a lot of people seem to be kissing Fergie’s ass and the following the tabloid rhetoric when most Arsenal fans couldn’t stand his guts. I never liked the guy. Zero personality and little tyrant on a power trip. But each to their own.

Has no relevance to any point I'm making, but ok.

[Power n Glory]

No, Wenger wouldn't be criticised. Because the prevailing opinion would be Mourinho's a cunt. Getting away from 'fake gestures' would mean not having to shake hands with a cunt.



Has no relevance to any point I'm making, but ok.

That's your football brain taking over. :lol:

That last point is a side note about media influence. It's relevant.

[Letters]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7BWvD5B5Y

[Munchies]

Maureen spoke about it on SSN this morning again:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLpAf56WsAALpBh.jpg


Mourinho on non-handshake with Wenger: "You're not obliged to shake hands with people when you walk down the street."

Mourinho: "But when you represent an institution, a club, a sport it's different. Wembley the last stadium you want to behave like that."

:haha:

Like him running down the tunnel last season before full time to avoid Wenger

[Munchies]

Or gouging Vilanova in the eye :lol:

[Power n Glory]

Wenger just needs to troll him back. When asked about it, just smirk and say 'I didn't see him'. :lol:

[Fist of Lehmann]

Or gouging Vilanova in the eye :lol:

From behind. And then he turns his back and runs.

So both brave and classy.

[AFC Leveller]

If any of these journos had a pair, they'd ask him "but Jose, why did you gouge a cancer patient in the eye? that must be something you regret?" i bet you he wont know what to say, the prick.

[Dein-machine]

We've just devoted 4 pages on slagging off "The chosen one" - he would love it. Don't give a fuck about the handshake & what they think of each other - our manager has been embarrassing on many occasions & you have to ask yourselves why he tends to prefer the managers he regularly beats as opposed to Mourinho & Pullis.

Back to the thread - always good to beat the top teams, in any game. Defensively, we stood up well but we needed to after backing off at 1-0. This is where I think our problem lies this year. Trying to hold on to a lead seemed to rear its head so much last year. Can't remember a Wenger side being like that previously. We have to put games to bed, we were the better team up until the goal, so why if you go 1-0 up do we feel we need to be negative. Then to make matters worse, we have the unbelievable substitutions that also seemed to start last year. Taking off your most threatening players & replace with defensive minded ones. All this does is create more pressure in our goal mouth as the ball will keep coming back. Eventually, no matter how many defenders you have on the pitch something will drop for the opposition in the box.
Taking Theo, Ox & Ozi off when you are playing on the counter attack is beyond belief. Having to put Gibbs into CM to inject a bit of pace is ludicrous.
Its also clear that Wenger is unsure about who is our main striker next year. How can that be? How many of the other top teams in England or Europe start a season without a striker they know can do the business.
I'm afraid the joy was short lived for me, I see this year being the same as usual, the team doing as well as they can in spite of Wenger, not because of him.

[Letters]

I'm afraid the joy was short lived for me.
Sounds like it was non-existent.

[Power n Glory]

We've just devoted 4 pages on slagging off "The chosen one" - he would love it. Don't give a fuck about the handshake & what they think of each other - our manager has been embarrassing on many occasions & you have to ask yourselves why he tends to prefer the managers he regularly beats as opposed to Mourinho & Pullis.

Back to the thread - always good to beat the top teams, in any game. Defensively, we stood up well but we needed to after backing off at 1-0. This is where I think our problem lies this year. Trying to hold on to a lead seemed to rear its head so much last year. Can't remember a Wenger side being like that previously. We have to put games to bed, we were the better team up until the goal, so why if you go 1-0 up do we feel we need to be negative. Then to make matters worse, we have the unbelievable substitutions that also seemed to start last year. Taking off your most threatening players & replace with defensive minded ones. All this does is create more pressure in our goal mouth as the ball will keep coming back. Eventually, no matter how many defenders you have on the pitch something will drop for the opposition in the box.
Taking Theo, Ox & Ozi off when you are playing on the counter attack is beyond belief. Having to put Gibbs into CM to inject a bit of pace is ludicrous.
Its also clear that Wenger is unsure about who is our main striker next year. How can that be? How many of the other top teams in England or Europe start a season without a striker they know can do the business.
I'm afraid the joy was short lived for me, I see this year being the same as usual, the team doing as well as they can in spite of Wenger, not because of him.

Still haven't seen the game but I'm hoping we're smarter with our sub choices this year.

[Dein-machine]

Sounds like it was non-existent.

Not far off to be fair - Just don't see things changing for the better under Wenger. Last year tells us that beating the title winners in the Charity Shield doesn't mean anything in relation to the league. The last 2 games of last season gave me a bit of hope, thinking that Wenger had finally realised that attacking teams, going for the 2nd. 3rd & 4th goals to kill teams off will result in more points than sitting back & defending. Our play on Sunday just looks like we'll be setting up to defend leads again - we're not good enough defensively to do this.

[Letters]

They already have changed for the better.
We've won 2 trophies in 2 years, signed several world class players.
We need to challenge properly for the league this year, IMO we're good enough to now.

[GP]

The positives FAR outweigh the negatives right now. Like it seriously isn't even close.
We're spending on the right players, the results are good, silverware in the cabinet.

There are no obvious weaknesses in the first team. It would take a genuine worldie to really improve us right now. Looking forward to this season.

[Dein-machine]

The positives FAR outweigh the negatives right now. Like it seriously isn't even close.
We're spending on the right players, the results are good, silverware in the cabinet.

There are no obvious weaknesses in the first team. It would take a genuine worldie to really improve us right now. Looking forward to this season.

Maybe no obvious weaknesses to you but the rest of the football world are aware that we need a proven goal-scorer - one of the most important positions on the pitch & our manager doesn't know who to play there. Personally, I regard that as a weakness.

[GP]

Maybe no obvious weaknesses to you but the rest of the football world are aware that we need a proven goal-scorer - one of the most important positions on the pitch & our manager doesn't know who to play there. Personally, I regard that as a weakness.

Yeah but you're an idiot.

[Letters]

I actually agree that is a weakness, but we've got plenty of players who can score goals, we haven't got a 30 goal a season player but we've got several 20 goal a season players.
IMO any of last season's top 4 could credibly win it this year but we've got as good a chance as any IMO and we've started to show a bit more steel in big games so there's no reason we can't hold our nerve if we're in the mix at the business end.

[Dein-machine]

Yeah but you're an idiot.

I know Dougie, we can't all be a football expert like you - no weakness :haha:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I actually agree that is a weakness, but we've got plenty of players who can score goals, we haven't got a 30 goal a season player but we've got several 20 goal a season players.
IMO any of last season's top 4 could credibly win it this year but we've got as good a chance as any IMO and we've started to show a bit more steel in big games so there's no reason we can't hold our nerve if we're in the mix at the business end.

I don't think they could, I think United as they currently are, are as far away from winning the title as they were last year

I don't think it can be said that City have meaningfully strengthened either, like United they are in dire need of a centre half.

[GP]

I think City look the worst of the top 4 to be honest.

[Letters]

I don't think they could, I think United as they currently are, are as far away from winning the title as they were last year

I don't think it can be said that City have meaningfully strengthened either, like United they are in dire need of a centre half.

City are contenders if they can be arsed, they're poorly managed - with their resources they should be right up there.
Utd - it depends how the new signings do.

[Özim]

They already have changed for the better.
We've won 2 trophies in 2 years, signed several world class players.
We need to challenge properly for the league this year, IMO we're good enough to now.

We weren't good enough last year (and were quite a way behind, regardless of how were ended up being this far behind we were) and we've only added one player whilst others seemingly have brought in more.

Last season you didn't think we were good enough, so has it just taken one signing to change that?

I'm not convinced, I think up front we're far too wasteful and we lack steel in the middle and did have some shocking games last season too where old habits reared their head, we also have a tactically naive manager who just doesn't make changes when they need to be made.

With a couple more quality signings, I'd have said yes, but as it is we'll fall away when the pressure is on as we demonstrated when we played Monaco and got knocked out and when we fell from 2nd to 3rd, we just don't have the staying power and don't have a striker who will get us free points when we're not playing well.

[Dein-machine]

I actually agree that is a weakness, but we've got plenty of players who can score goals, we haven't got a 30 goal a season player but we've got several 20 goal a season players.
IMO any of last season's top 4 could credibly win it this year but we've got as good a chance as any IMO and we've started to show a bit more steel in big games so there's no reason we can't hold our nerve if we're in the mix at the business end.

The forward options we have should allow us to continue to finish top 3 or 4. We can score goals from other positions which is just as well otherwise we'd be competing for Europa places. In Europe, we are hoping to compete agaisnt the likes of Barca, Madrid & Bayern. Forgetting the Spanish attacking riches for the moment, Bayern can score goals through Ribbery & Robben but also have Lewandowski & Muller in the same starting 11. If we say Sanchez & Walcott can be our Ribbery & Robben, who is our Lewandowski & Muller?

[Özim]

I think City look the worst of the top 4 to be honest.

Spotted the problem here.

[Dein-machine]

yep - if Dougie "thinks" something - go for the opposite. They'll win it now.

[Letters]

We weren't good enough last year (and were quite a way behind, regardless of how were ended up being this far behind we were) and we've only added one player whilst others seemingly have brought in more.

Last season you didn't think we were good enough, so has it just taken one signing to change that?
It's not just about the signing although I do think that will help. Having a proper, world class 'keeper has to help the defence and that can only be a good thing.
I would have preferred us to do more in the window but Wenger has always valued stability - probably too much, but I think he's got a point right now. I do think we were good enough last year, we just got off to an awful start which made our task impossible almost as soon as the season started. We can't make that mistake again and I don't think we will. It is not valid to suggest that the same squad will perform the same from one season to the next just because they're the same players. The dynamic of a squad change over time, players get better understanding, get older and better (if they're on the upward curve and not getting on, which most of ours are)


we'll fall away when the pressure is on as we demonstrated when we played Monaco and got knocked out and when we fell from 2nd to 3rd
It's interesting how your definition of pressure is 'games we lose'.
Was there no pressure on us in the quarter final at Old Trafford? Or the semi-final or final?
There is no great pressure on whether we finish 2nd or 3rd. Both qualify you for the CL, neither wins you a trophy.
We had a Cup Final to worry about, City didn't. We took our foot off the gas a bit when the title was gone (and only then, till it was mathematically impossible we kept going) but we picked up and did the business when it counted in the final, I can live with that.

There does seem to be something different about this squad, they've won 2 trophies in a row, they've been sweeping all before them in pre-season and while that doesn't necessarily translate into a good season it's always a good thing to be in a winning habit. They've shown they can go on long winning runs, they've shown they can turn up in the high pressure games - you can point to counter examples, you can do that with any team, but we won games last season we would not have won a few years ago. We've got enough world class players, and the mentality, to seriously challenge this year.

[Letters]

The forward options we have should allow us to continue to finish top 3 or 4. We can score goals from other positions which is just as well otherwise we'd be competing for Europa places. In Europe, we are hoping to compete agaisnt the likes of Barca, Madrid & Bayern. Forgetting the Spanish attacking riches for the moment, Bayern can score goals through Ribbery & Robben but also have Lewandowski & Muller in the same starting 11. If we say Sanchez & Walcott can be our Ribbery & Robben, who is our Lewandowski & Muller?

I wouldn't put us at Bayern's level (or Barca or Real, while we're here) but I wouldn't put any English club in that bracket.
Only City significantly outscored us last year and that was with quite long term injuries to Walcott and Giroud.
I would be happier with a top striker but IMO there's plenty of goals in this team.

[Dein-machine]

I wouldn't put us at Bayern's level (or Barca or Real, while we're here) but I wouldn't put any English club in that bracket.
Only City significantly outscored us last year and that was with quite long term injuries to Walcott and Giroud.
I would be happier with a top striker but IMO there's plenty of goals in this team.

Well - not long to go now, lets wait & see.

[Kano]

I'm pretty sure Utd and Chelsea see themselves as competitors to the best in Europe and we should be too if we actually want to compete for the CL. Otherwise what's the point of buying in the best players, moving to a huge stadium and rolling in the cash? Just hoping to fluke it one day? Realistically, in terms of personnel the teams here aren't comparable but we also weren't when English teams were regularly getting to semi's/finals of the CL. The aim of the big clubs here has to be to match the teams on the continent.

[Letters]

Well - not long to go now, lets wait & see.

Pretty much :lol: