Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

[Unai Tea]

why can't i get all the smileys and good posting stuff??

Edinburgh Gooner :pal:

[Boss]

Mata or Jadson plus a defender. It will happen.

If we get one of the two + a defender that isn't Dann or continental filth, I'll be pretty happy about our dealings this summer.

The shitload of pace will see us tear teams to shreds... :cloud9:

[GP]

If we get one of the two + a defender that isn't Dann or continental filth, I'll be pretty happy about our dealings this summer.

The shitload of pace will see us tear teams to shreds... :cloud9:

I wouldn't mind Dann at all. Whoever comes in won't be first choice anyway. Dann on the bench instead of the squid retard would do me just fine.

[Darth Vela]

Huh.

The Richest Club In The World is having trouble getting all their business done too, almost like it's a difficult market this summer.

[Ironing]

They already signed 2 players with top 4 experience in the two biggest leagues in the world...

[Marc Overmars]

Jadson apparently said on his Twitter that he will have news for everyone next week.

[Darth Vela]

I wouldn't mind Dann at all. Whoever comes in won't be first choice anyway. Dann on the bench instead of the squid retard would do me just fine.

I'd rather get in a new first choice defender but I'm pretty happy with Vermscielny, still yet to concede a goal since pre-season started after all...

[Darth Vela]

They already signed 2 players with top 4 experience in the two biggest leagues in the world...

Yet they still can't get everything they want.

[Ironing]

Jadson apparently said on his Twitter that he will have news for everyone next week.

what's his twitter?

[Ironing]

Yet they still can't get everything they want.

Maybe, but surely we're aiming a lot lower than they are for what we "want", and therefore shouldn't have the same issues. I don't think we're after the same calibre of player tbh

[GP]

Maybe, but surely we're aiming a lot lower than they are for what we "want", and therefore shouldn't have the same issues. I don't think we're after the same calibre of player tbh

Well, they signed Clichy, who is shit.

[Sirjackofwilshere]

Don't expect any more strikers to come in in case they kill this pub teamer. Just fuck off wenger.Come on Newcastle I bet you splaff your pants when we lose. Twat.

[Darth Vela]

Maybe, but surely we're aiming a lot lower than they are for what we "want", and therefore shouldn't have the same issues. I don't think we're after the same calibre of player tbh

Ostensibly we're looking for the same level of player as we're looking to do the same thing next season, it's just that they can throw money at people to make things happen.

[Boss]

what's his twitter?

http://twitter.com/#!/jadson_8/

[Injury Time]

why can't i get all the smileys and good posting stuff??
Are you using an Apple product? I have similar issue o ipad but not laptop ( Windows)

[GunnerFan4Life]

Wenger: "We will have a new centre-back by the end of the transfer window - because Vermaelen only played five games last year."

Wenger: "We are nowhere near signing Jadson."

Arsene Wenger: "We will not do [sign] Juan Mata. I don't have to give a reason why not."


-twitter.

I'm going to kill him

[Marc Overmars]

ARSENAL have sensationally told Manchester City: Give us Carlos Tevez and you can have Samir Nasri.

Hitman Tevez has been trying to get out of Manchester all summer.

And with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger under growing pressure to bring in a top buy, the Gunners have suddenly come up with their shock proposal.

Midfielder Nasri had hoped to sign for City by yesterday lunchtime after being promised a £180,000-a-week deal.

But Arsenal - also on the verge of losing skipper Cesc Fabregas - have blocked the move while they see if they can sort a swap with Tevez.

The Gunners will have to make a cash adjustment in City's favour for the Argie because the club's top scorer is valued at £50million.

The best Arsenal can get for Nasri is £25m as there is only one year remaining on the French star's contract - meaning he could walk for nothing next summer.

However, Arsenal are hoping to get the Tevez fee down by £10m.

And they believe they can come to an agreement over his wages which could be as much as £200,000 a week.

Tevez has said he wants out of City to be closer to his family in Argentina but London is only 200 miles nearer South America than Manchester.

However, SunSport understands Tevez would be delighted to join Arsenal in a move which would be a massive boost for their fans.

An Arsenal insider said: "Tevez would be just the signing to give everyone a lift.

"There is a lot of work to be done yet but if there is a will on all sides it can happen.

"Nasri wants to get to City, Tevez wants to get out and Wenger needs a new star to get everyone off his back.

"It seems like win-win all round."

Meanwhile, Fabregas' expected departure to Barcelona has been delayed.

The midfield general was hoping to fly out yesterday to seal his £35million move to the Spanish champions.

But Barca have told him to wait until Monday when they hope to complete the formalities on a five-year deal.

The Gunners last night agreed terms with Costa Rican side Deportivo Saprissa to sign teenage striker Joel Campbell.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3749831/Arsenal-tell-Man-City-Carlos-Tevez-for-Samir-Nasri.html

:doh:

[GP]

Wenger isn't on twitter

[GunnerFan4Life]

No a dude on twitter got those quotes from sources.

[GunnerFan4Life]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3749831/Arsenal-tell-Man-City-Carlos-Tevez-for-Samir-Nasri.html

:doh:

I heard those rumours earlier on tweeter. MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[Kaiser]

:haha:

Arsenal paying anyone £200k a week is hilarious.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3749831/Arsenal-tell-Man-City-Carlos-Tevez-for-Samir-Nasri.html

:doh:

Why would we get rid of one traitorous scum just to bring another in, and at twice the money we wouldn't pay the first piece of filth? Sun making shit up again.

[Niall_Quinn]

More realistically, Craig Bellamy is available. Good player, good worker and one of the best wind-up merchants in the business. Trouble is he's not French and shite so he wouldn't really fit in here.

[Ironing]

Well, they signed Clichy, who is shit.

True, but he's a top four player, and about 3 years ago one of the best in the league. Maybe they're hoping that with a change of scenery, and perhaps playing for a club that wants to win things, he'll recapture his original energy?

If anything, he's decent backup

[Ironing]

Ostensibly we're looking for the same level of player as we're looking to do the same thing next season, it's just that they can throw money at people to make things happen.

We the fans are, i'm not sure if one of Wenger or the the board are

7 mil on a left back that many on here believe to be better than gibbs ain't exactly splashing it

[Boss]

Those quotes are solid btw (not The Sun garbage).


Arsene Wenger delivered more bad news to Arsenal fans yesterday when he announced that the club's interest in the Valencia midfielder Juan Mata was officially over, as the club braced themselves to complete the sales of both Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri with the manager refusing to discuss either player.

Wenger would not offer any insight on the departure of his captain to Barcelona or the impending deal with Manchester City for Nasri, even claiming at one point that he did not "expect" any player to leave. All he could say for definite was that Mata, the £20m-rated Spain international, will not be joining Arsenal. He said: "We will not do Juan Mata. I don't have to give you a reason, I just said to you we will not do it."

There is an expectation that Arsenal could complete deals for Fabregas and Nasri, worth a total of around £60m, at any point this weekend. Neither player is in the squad for today's game against Newcastle United. Wenger claimed that Nasri has the flu while Fabregas is in the puzzlingly ambiguous situation of being "not injured, but he is not match-fit," according to his manager.

Last night Arsenal refused to confirm reports that Fabregas was on his way to Spain to sign for Barcelona.

The closest Wenger came to admitting that his team is facing up to the prospect of the new season without two of their key performers was when he contended that the team was not reliant on one individual. "You always hear that but football is not about one magical man who can make miracles when things go badly," he said.

Earlier he said: "We are all replaceable. All the centuries are full of replaceable people. Sometimes when you lose a big player the game changes. A big player attracts the game to him. Sometimes [when he leaves] other people stand up and take more responsibilities and the game is a bit different, but not less efficient. But you do not want to lose big players, if that is the question."

The one player whom Wenger conceded will be leaving the club is Nicklas Bendtner, who is not included in today's squad. Bendtner's departure has been messy which was reflected in Wenger's ambivalence towards him when asked where the Dane was going. "He looks like he knows but I don't know," he said. On Jadson, the £12m-rated Brazilian midfielder at Shakhtar Donetsk he said, "We are nowhere near doing that."

Nevertheless there was a promise to buy a centre-back by the end of the month. He said: "We will have a new centre-back by the end of the transfer window because [Thomas] Vermaelen only played five games last year. To buy just for the sake of buying you won't find me there. If I'm convinced the player has the qualities I will always do it if he's better than the players we have.

"If I'm convinced that the player brings some extra qualities to the squad, we will always [buy] him. If we overpaid a little bit... but to pay three or four times the price you must really be convinced that this is the player you need. At the moment we have not found that player."

While refusing to talk in specifics about Fabregas's departure, Wenger defended the time it has taken to sell the captain to Barça. "It does not depend only on me. You have three parties in the deal and the pace is not necessarily set by you, it is set by people who want to buy, by how much you resist to how much you defend your property. That is logical [to negotiate hard]. If I didn't do that I would be unprofessional."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/wenger-rules-out-bringing-in-16320m-mata-2336707.html?

[GunnerFan4Life]

http://twitter.com/#!/itz_renato/status/102044860353228800

[Ironing]

http://twitter.com/#!/itz_renato/status/102044860353228800

Some random guy tweeting about The Sun article?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Once again, I find myself on the arsenal rollercoaster of emotion.

One minute Im really happy that we've signed Campbell as he looks like a genuine no nonsense striker, then I read this news that 'we will add a CB but he has to be better than what we have and we havent found that yet'

Your having a fucking laugh mate, there are hundreds of CB's that are better than Squillaci!

[Boss]

Anyone that believes the Tevez-Nasri swap has any basis in truth needs to be slapped in the face by Letters.

[fakeyank]

More realistically, Craig Bellamy is available. Good player, good worker and one of the best wind-up merchants in the business. Trouble is he's not French and shite so he wouldn't really fit in here.

Two good players on the cheap/free... Bellamy and Barton

[Power n Glory]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_7096082,00.html


Arsenal have announced they have agreed terms to sign teenage striker Joel Campbell on a day when Cesc Fabregas stands on the brink of joining Barcelona.

Nineteen-year-old Campbell was in his country's squad for the recent Copa America and the Under-20 World Cup.

The Gunners, who at the same time insist a deal has yet to be agreed for the sale of Fabregas,revealed on Friday night the transfer is subject to the completion of 'formal agreements and processes'.

Manager Arsene Wenger told his club's official website: "Joel Campbell has already shown that he is a player with great ability, and has also performed well on the international stage at a young age.

"We look forward to the formalities of the transfer being completed and working with Joel when he joins us at Arsenal."

Campbell is predominantly left-footed and has made six full international appearances, scoring twice.

He scored on his debut in a 5-0 win over Cuba at this year's CONCACAF Gold Cup, helping his side to the competition's quarter-finals.

Campbell has had two seasons in his native Primera Division, where he played for Deportivo Saprissaand on loan at Puntarenas, making a total of eight league appearances.

Young but he looks dangerous!!! Good signing.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Im quite happy with this lad, at least he's got some experience at international level, probably equal to Lukaku tbf, but doesnt get the media pluadits for not being european.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

anybody know what the visa situation with Campbell is like?
will he slip through like Miya - excaptional talent

[GP]

anybody know what the visa situation with Campbell is like?
will he slip through like Miya - excaptional talent

Well he's a full international, so I don't think it will be a problem.

[Power n Glory]

My concern is the work permit.

He looks a big lad, strong, has a good left foot on him, freekicks, can dribble, pace....the type of striker we haven't had since Henry left. Pace and power.

[Alias]

So a like for like replacement in terms of quality then :yawn:

[Keith]

So not Mata and not Jadson, wonder if we have a rabbit or two coming out of the hat.

[Özim]

So not Mata and not Jadson, wonder if we have a rabbit or two coming out of the hat.
Dead rabbits perhaps.

[AKBapologist]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/08/13/2617767/arsene-wenger-reveals-to-close-friends-that-he-is-preparing

[Alias]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/08/13/2617767/arsene-wenger-reveals-to-close-friends-that-he-is-preparing

PLEASE BE TRUE:cloud9:

[Darth Vela]

Dead rabbits perhaps.

:lol:

[Özim]

PLEASE BE TRUE:cloud9:
+1 that'll be a great reason to celebrate!

[RomfordPele]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/08/13/2617767/arsene-wenger-reveals-to-close-friends-that-he-is-preparing

Ha ha, so he becomes City manager in the summer and his first signing will be ... Nasri on a free.

I take it back, the man's a genius! No wonder he's being so coy.

(I am joking by the way. I think. :unsure: )

[Özim]

I can only think he's p*ssed off beause of the criticism so is f*cking us over before leaving next year....it can be the only logical reason he's acting like this.

[Darth Vela]

That is in no way logical, he wouldn't have done all this if he didn't care for the club so to suddenly turn to hatred to the point of trying to screw us over as much as possible makes absolutely no sense.

He's going to try and see out his contract but if he fails this year I reckon the board and him would come to a 'mutual agreement' about leaving.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

goal.com, is about as reliable an information stream as Fox News.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I can only think he's p*ssed off beause of the criticism so is f*cking us over before leaving next year....it can be the only logical reason he's acting like this.

If its true, then it will be because Cesc abs Samir were sol above his head by stan.

[Grebbo]

I've come to the opinion that we must sign Joey Barton.

He's a wanker and I'll cringe whenever I hear him speak in an Arsenal shirt.

But....

He's a good player, far far better than Song and he is free.

We must sign him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bellamy, Parker, Barton, a keeper, one from Cahill, Samba or Jagielka, plus I'd get Defoe if he was still available or Cahill from Everton. Then I'd set out to break the world record for red cards in a season, just like the good old days. Apart from the CB this lot wouldn't cost much in transfers and if we could ship a few players out we could afford the wages too (assuming Bellamy is not seriously going to push for Man City level wages). Maybe we could even get a major concession from City if we agree to speed Nasri the other way. Get this mob and this would be a mirror image of the usual crap, we'd have all the other smug gits who boast about Arsenal not "liking it up them" shitting their pants and moaning about being kicked 20 feet in the air. Hell, get Mike Tyson too and make him official club spokesman on the pitch for dealing with the referee.

[AKBapologist]

Would be interesting to see Wenger continuing not to spend at PSG
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-everyone-looks-for-centre-backs

Meanwhile
Liverpool offer 12mill +Ngog for Cahill who's on the last year of his contract. (twitter)

[Darth Vela]

I'd take that if I were Bolton, with less pressure and more space I can see Ngog being a very useful striker.

[Keith]

Has he just said we are also looking for a forward?

"We have specialised people to work everywhere but we are not in a supermarket where you go to a shelf and you ask where are the centre backs or the strikers."

[Ironing]

Has he just said we are also looking for a forward?

"We have specialised people to work everywhere but we are not in a supermarket where you go to a shelf and you ask where are the centre backs or the strikers."

No.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Has he just said we are also looking for a forward?

"We have specialised people to work everywhere but we are not in a supermarket where you go to a shelf and you ask where are the centre backs or the strikers."

No Arsene, your the awkward customer who doesnt want the CB's on the shelf right in front of you because they cost too much.

Your instead hovering around the reduced items shelf waiting for someone to chuck a cheap, slightly damaged but heavily reduced one on there.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I've come to the opinion that we must sign Joey Barton.

He's a wanker and I'll cringe whenever I hear him speak in an Arsenal shirt.

But....

He's a good player, far far better than Song and he is free.

We must sign him.


for free Barton would be a good purchase, his salary would be payable,
we were talking about the footballing risk of selling Cesc and Nas at the same time
it would make footballing sense to purchase Barton,
we are going to have to look away at his prick side

[The Realist]

According to unconfirmed reports coming to us, Manuel Almunia is on his way out of Arsenal and will likely sign for Malaga very shortly.

[Niall_Quinn]

we are going to have to look away at his prick side

What does that actually mean? It sounds like something I wouldn't enjoy doing very much.

[KSE Comedy Club]

According to unconfirmed reports coming to us, Manuel Almunia is on his way out of Arsenal and will likely sign for Malaga very shortly.

:scarf:

[AKBapologist]

Eboue and Vela are set to go next week too. Bendtner transfer is on hold until we find a replacement I think.

[Master Splinter]

According to unconfirmed reports coming to us, Manuel Almunia is on his way out of Arsenal and will likely sign for Malaga very shortly.

So Malaga have endless piles of money, yet decide to buy Almunia?

Almunia :bow:

Great keeper.

[Sirjackofwilshere]

Almunia off? PRAAAIISE THE LAWD!!

[Boss]

Almunia, Denilson, Eboue out... three absolute fucking cunts we won't have to watch this season.

Someone assassinate Squillaci and it'll be a very good summer.

[Cripps_orig]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/08/13/2617862/arsenal-line-up-move-for-sochaux-midfielder-marvin-martin-as

France Football reports we are after some unknown player to replace Cesc.

Can see this happening.

[Ironing]

Ridiculous name

Can definitely see it happening

[Niall_Quinn]

Almunia off? PRAAAIISE THE LAWD!!

Bring back the dancing chicken before it's too late!

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/08/13/2617862/arsenal-line-up-move-for-sochaux-midfielder-marvin-martin-as

France Football reports we are after some unknown player to replace Cesc.

Can see this happening.

Must... stay... positive...

[Master Splinter]

Joel Campbell and Marvin Martin?

Even though they're not English, they have GHELlish names.

Wenger's serious about this GHEL takeover.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Eboue and Vela are set to go next week too. Bendtner transfer is on hold until we find a replacement I think.
I thought that was Campbell?

[Cripps_orig]

I thought that was Campbell?

Makes sense. A shit nobody to replace the shittest player in Arsenal history

[GP]

Double, double, double!

Joel Campbell will score a double!

[Master Splinter]

Marvin Martin provided 17 assists last year.

Marvin > Cesc.

A Must Get.

[Darth Vela]

That's a quality name too, practically Marvin the Martian.

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought that was Campbell?

Campbell's going too? Hopefully for more than we paid!

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Joel Campbell and Marvin Martin?

Even though they're not English, they have GHELlish names.

Wenger's serious about this GHEL takeover.


Marvin Martin

Alvin Martin's love child comes of age:bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully Joel is as good as his dad was for us...

[Özim]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/08/13/2617862/arsenal-line-up-move-for-sochaux-midfielder-marvin-martin-as

France Football reports we are after some unknown player to replace Cesc.

Can see this happening.
Yeah Marvellous Marvin could well happen, that's a Wenger type signing indeed.

We'd be making a huge profit on transfers which is all that matters after all.

[Özim]

Hopefully Joel is as good as his dad was for us...
yeah Kevin Campbell started off well, but went off the boil later in his career for us.

[Cripps_orig]

Hope hes as good as the last Costa Rican striker to play in England

I dont actually know if he was the last one but hes the most well known.

Paulo One Chop :bow:

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Are you using an Apple product? I have similar issue o ipad but not laptop ( Windows)

I use google chrome on a pc with windows xp.

[Grebbo]

I've come to the opinion that we must sign Joey Barton.

He's a wanker and I'll cringe whenever I hear him speak in an Arsenal shirt.

But....

He's a good player, far far better than Song and he is free.

We must sign him.

Ok scrap that idea.

Wenger for the love of god spend some fucking money so I don't have these bad thoughts.

[milla]

Spend the feking money, spend the fuking money, spend the fuking money! :scarf::scarf::scarf:

[milla]

Spend the fekin money! :scarf:
Spend the fekin money! :scarf:
Spend the fekin money! :scarf:

[Injury Time]

I use google chrome on a pc with windows xp.
No idea then Scottish lack of smilie filter? ;)

[Edinburgh Gooner]

No idea then Scottish lack of smilie filter? ;)


I sussed it. I've been using the quick reply option. If I go ADVANCED I get all the smileys I could smile at.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

:flash::police::cheers::ladynana::gp::dancingman:: handbags::violin:

[Edinburgh Gooner]

No idea then Scottish lack of smilie filter? ;)

WOuldn't surprise me if that were true lol. This country sucks!!!

[Thierrymon]

Hope hes as good as the last Costa Rican striker to play in England

I dont actually know if he was the last one but hes the most well known.

Paulo One Chop :bow:

Wanchope! :bow:

When i was in Costa Rica a few years ago they still had pictures of him all over the place.

[AKBapologist]

THE FUCK??
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Tottenham-Hotspur-plot-swoop-for-Arsenal-defender-Bacary-Sagna-article785216.html

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article744197.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/sagna.jpg

[Marc Overmars]

What the hell?

[Ironing]

the fuck??
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/tottenham-hotspur-plot-swoop-for-arsenal-defender-bacary-sagna-article785216.html

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article744197.ece/alternates/gallery-large/sagna.jpg

lol?

[The Verminator]

Lmao :d

[Olivier's xmas twist]

THE FUCK??
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Tottenham-Hotspur-plot-swoop-for-Arsenal-defender-Bacary-Sagna-article785216.html

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article744197.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/sagna.jpg

This is how you know the media chat shit lol, why would we sell sagna to spurs and thats not even him in the pic lol

[Niall_Quinn]

The Mirror lowering the bar again, taking it underground.

[Ironing]

http://i53.tinypic.com/2uy4n0h.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/29w0sx5.jpg

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The Mirror lowering the bar again, taking it underground.

Now we know what Rooney loooks like as a black man

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal are expected to make a renewed bid for Everton centre-half Phil Jagielka this week, with the club set to lose both Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri to Barcelona and Manchester City respectively. Full story: Mail on SundayThe Gunners could also move for Sochaux midfielder Marvin Martin and Marseille winger Andre Ayew as soon as they receive the first payment from the sale of Fabregas. Full story: MetroYay

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yay

Well would have prefred Cahill but Jagelka is better then nothing i suppose, Ayew would not mind him here tbh, We should get Remy too. who the hell is Marvin Martin.

[AKBapologist]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Arsenal-target-Bolton-star-Gary-Cahill-after-impressive-performance-against-QPR-article785203.html
Tevez and Cahill and all will be forgiven... :pray:

[Master Splinter]

http://i53.tinypic.com/2uy4n0h.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/29w0sx5.jpg

:haha: :haha:

That Sagna 'article' is the worst thing I've ever seen. Ever.

Worse than Faye Dunaway's face and Gervinho's hair.

[Master Splinter]

who the hell is Marvin Martin.

A Must Get.

Assist king and future Arsenal legend.

His name is his most important quality though.

[Injury Time]

This is how you know the media chat shit lol, why would we sell sagna to spurs and thats not even him in the pic lol
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/football-hotline/2011/08/14/spurs-plotting-shock-swoop-for-arsenal-s-sagna-102039-23342541/
They got the pic right in the original article Mirror cut paste :doh:

[Injury Time]

WOuldn't surprise me if that were true lol. This country sucks!!!
Really? I always liked Edinburgh (folks are from the bit with oil companies) always had a nice vibe to it.

[Alias]

Lolz. We arent getting Tevez. Firstly I doubt hed want to come to us, and there is absolutely no way he is going to take a pay cut.

[Özim]

Arsenal now just a nursery club for the big boys

I NEVER thought I would say this, but Arsenal are now a nursery club for footballs big boys a sickening kick in the old marble halls.


Cesc Fabregas saying his long-awaited goodbye on his way home to Barcelona just confirms what I have seen coming for some time.


The Gunners are now goners when it comes to being part of the games rich set.


All of the great years they had with Dennis Bergkamp, Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and Emmanuel Petit have long gone.


It was a club people wanted to play for now its a club that gets raided for its best players.
I am a huge fan of their style and what Arsene Wenger has done for the place I love the Emirates as a stadium.


But now Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea have moved to another level. And in Europe you have Barcelona, Real Madrid, the Milan clubs and even Paris St Germain coming up and leaving them behind.


Fallen


Put simply, Arsenal are not members of that smaller and smaller group of clubs that can win things both domestically or in the Champions League.


The best teams around have the money and they have also got their eyes on Arsenals {players its not the other way round anymore.


It is now a breeding ground for the rich and famous to come along and take their pick.
And the gap is getting bigger year after year.


In the Premier League, they have been in the {driving seat and fallen away they only went close last time {because others slipped up.


Arsenal are now in the group that hangs on. It is the way it is going and it will only get worse. Whos the next to go? And who can you {attract if thats your status in the game?


Samir Nasri is on his way, even Robin van Persie must be {looking and wondering. They have bought Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, but is that to bring him through and sell him?


I think they are now a club that cant attract the top earners like their rivals. They HAVE to sign them and {develop them. And you did not see that {happening years ago.


When Arsenal were great they had a team with older players, {average ages in the 29 to 30 bracket.
Since those days they have gone for younger blood and have still got talent, but no trophies.
Fabregas has been one of the best Premier League midfielders and he is {leaving without a full {trophy cabinet.
I dont care what Wenger says in public, in private he must be frustrated. He knows how hard it will be to find the right players.


This is going to be a hard year for him. He needs to come out and say if he has the {money if they can pay the wages. They say they have, but with Fabregas leaving you have to wonder.


Its not even that great a move for Fabregas. I can see him being on the bench more often than not with Barcas {midfield a big change for him from Arsenal where he was the King of Spain.


So maybe nobody wins. But the long-term result is definite Arsenal have lost their place in footballs food chain and wont get it back in a hurry.


http://www.people.co.uk/sport/columnists/2011/08/14/arsenal-now-just-a-nursery-club-for-the-big-boys-102039-23341772/

[Olivier's xmas twist]

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/columnists/2011/08/14/arsenal-now-just-a-nursery-club-for-the-big-boys-102039-23341772/

Don't think the Article is correct but it seems like were heading that way. This year the fans need honesty from the board and AW.

[Marc Overmars]

We all know what the goal of the club is and that's to finish in the top 4. We're not in any shape to challenge for let alone win the league and expectations should be in line with that. Yesterday was a good point for us.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We all know what the goal of the club is and that's to finish in the top 4. We're not in any shape to challenge for let alone win the league and expectations should be in line with that. Yesterday was a good point for us.

If you put it that way then it was a good away point at a hard place.

[Özim]

We all know what the goal of the club is and that's to finish in the top 4. We're not in any shape to challenge for let alone win the league and expectations should be in line with that. Yesterday was a good point for us.
Goal of the money men perhaps, not the fans.

So might be good enough for them, but not for us.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Goal of the money men perhaps, not the fans.

So might be good enough for them, but not for us.

Well we will see come 31st Aug if the ambition has gone from Challengers to 4th place hopers.

[AKBapologist]

If you believe that then why all the hate towards AW?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

If you believe that then why all the hate towards AW?

Because people want to be proved wrong, they want AW to show them that thyey were wrong and he has not lost his tough in their opinions.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Linked with Jadson again


Shakhtar Donetsk head coach Mircea Lucescu claims Arsenal want their Brazil international playmaker Jadson.

The Gunners have been tipped to move for the 27-year-old with midfielders Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri expected to leave.

Jadson's name was mentioned to Arsene Wenger recently, but he stated the club was not in talks with Shakhtar for his services.

However, the Ukraine outfit now claim the Gunners are interested and that a move now depends on the Brazilian himself.

"I can confirm Jadson is wanted by Arsenal," said Lucescu. "Now it all depends on him."
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http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_7100793,00.html

[Darth Vela]

Well, I think it has been fairly well proven that we need another playmaker, I'd be skeptical of a short fella who's been hiding out in the Ukraine for a few years but he looks to have talent so...

[Kano]

he wouldnt have to acclimatise too much, as im sure the ukraine league would be as physical as the prem

[Niall_Quinn]

Jadson is just Wenger's way of carrying on regardless, a supposed replacement for the heart of our tippy-tapping nonsense football. If we sign him (which I doubt we will, I doubt we'll sign anyone else now), it will be Wenger sticking his two fingers up at everyone and instructing more of the same. There's no way we should be looking outside the PL for reinforcements. We can't afford any more bedding-in or acclimatising, we can't afford sudden discoveries of foreign DNA in our key players' blood. Why can't we learn our bloody lessons and take the steps necessary to stabilise the ship?

[IBK]

Jadson is just Wenger's way of carrying on regardless, a supposed replacement for the heart of our tippy-tapping nonsense football. If we sign him (which I doubt we will, I doubt we'll sign anyone else now), it will be Wenger sticking his two fingers up at everyone and instructing more of the same. There's no way we should be looking outside the PL for reinforcements. We can't afford any more bedding-in or acclimatising, we can't afford sudden discoveries of foreign DNA in our key players' blood. Why can't we learn our bloody lessons and take the steps necessary to stabilise the ship?

...and why, if Nasri and Fabregas are going for the best part of £50M, are we scratching around in the bargain basement, FFS???! Is Wenger so arrogant and bloody minded that the remote prospect of proving everything wrong by producing a world class player when noone expects it has become more important than stopping the rot that is infecting our team?

[GP]

...and why, if Nasri and Fabregas are going for the best part of £50M, are we scratching around in the bargain basement, FFS???! Is Wenger so arrogant and bloody minded that the remote prospect of proving everything wrong by producing a world class player when noone expects it has become more important than stopping the rot that is infecting our team?

Or, possibly, he just feels that Jadson is the best fit for out team. Who's to say he isn't? He certainly looks a very good player to me.

[Niall_Quinn]

Or, possibly, he just feels that Jadson is the best fit for out team. Who's to say he isn't? He certainly looks a very good player to me.

He does indeed look like an ideal solution, if we intend to persevere with a system that has brought us one failure after another for half a decade.

[Marc Overmars]

Some of the Brazilians that have found their way to Russia and Ukraine are quite good, I've always wanted to see a couple over here. Not going to pretend I know anything about Jadson because I don't but if that's who Cesc's replacement will be then so be it, we're not going to buy Sneijder or anyone like him so there you go.

[Keith]

Why not?

Wages saved
Nasri - 90k
Cesc - 100k
50m in the bank minus agent fees

Pay out for Sneijder - 190k a week + 30m to Inter.

[Marc Overmars]

I doubt we have that much money available for one player.

[GP]

Ideally, and I've said all along, if (and when) Fabregas goes, I'd like to see a proper marquee signing to make up for it. But if Jadson is what we get, so be it. He looks pretty damn good anyway, so instead of moaning my nips off, I'll just get behind him and support the new signing.

[Power n Glory]

Nothing against Wenger signing Jadson. He has experience in Europe, he's Brazilian, can shoot and I trust Wenger with these type of signings. A UEFA Cup winner and Shakhtar did okay in the Champs League.

[Dicks and chicks]

i would love us to sign one or two BIG names like Snejnder and Tevez. Just to show a statement of intent :(

[Özim]

Got no problem with Jadson, seems to be creative and he's Brazilian which usually (although not always as we've seen with Denilson) means skill and flair.

We do need to re-invest significantly though, won't be happy to see us pocket the cash again as we always seem to.

[Master Splinter]

Jadson has a better goal scoring record than Fabregas and Nasri too.

[Edinburgh Gooner]

Really? I always liked Edinburgh (folks are from the bit with oil companies) always had a nice vibe to it.

It's cool to visit. Crap when you are 24/7 365.

[Gubby Allen]

i would love us to sign one or two BIG names like Snejnder and Tevez. Just to show a statement of intent :(

Most of our signings tend to show a "statement of intent" - just not the intent that we would like.

[hobson's choice]

I'll pass on Jadson, 27 and still playing in Ukraine and has barely got a game for the least creative Brasilian sides in all of our lifetimes.

Get someone else please

[hobson's choice]

he's Brazilian,

Have you seen the crop of attacking players that Brasil are producing these days. Rather have a DM or a Defender from Brasil, than an attacking player.

[Kano]

I'll pass on Jadson, 27 and still playing in Ukraine and has barely got a game for the least creative Brasilian sides in all of our lifetimes.

Get someone else please

doesn't that say more for their previous manager dunga who wanted more defensive minded players? he was there for a good 4/5 years. jadson's career seems to have started earlier this year and was used during copa.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I'll pass on Jadson, 27 and still playing in Ukraine and has barely got a game for the least creative Brasilian sides in all of our lifetimes.

Get someone else please

You can pass on who you like its AW who makes the signings if he wants him he'll get him.

[Power n Glory]

Have you seen the crop of attacking players that Brasil are producing these days. Rather have a DM or a Defender from Brasil, than an attacking player.

Have you seen the crop of attacking players Arsenal are producing these days?

[IBK]

Or, possibly, he just feels that Jadson is the best fit for out team. Who's to say he isn't? He certainly looks a very good player to me.

Straight answer - a player knocking around in the Ukranian league is far more likely than not to be some way away from being able to adapt immediately to the Premiership. Why? Simply because a) I'm willing to bet that the style/pace of the game is very different to the EPL. b) Fitness levels are likely to be very different. c) He will hardly be likely to be used to playing against top players. In other words - yet another developmental player - who fits the failed AW mould.

have a fgo at me for moaning, by all means, but please don't pretend that a player from the Ukranian league is the best prospect that we have for our team. And i am not even a serial moaner. i am just sick of selling off the family silver in return for an alchemy kit that is as likely to fail as not.

[Power n Glory]

He has European experience at least. Arshavin came from the Russian league and he's fine, it's just his fitness and Wenger playing him on the wings that's the problem.

Questioning the Ukraine leagues quality is a bit of insult considering these guys beat us, topped our CL group and won the UEFA Cup. We should be more worried about Wenger's ability to get the guy settled and adjusted. If we don't think he's the right player for us then that is cool, but forget all that talk about him not being able to adjust because he's from another league. That says more about Wenger's coaching ability if anything.

[gunsofashburtongrove]

He has European experience at least. Arshavin came from the Russian league and he's fine, it's just his fitness and Wenger playing him on the wings that's the problem.

Questioning the Ukraine leagues quality is a bit of insult considering these guys beat us, topped our CL group and won the UEFA Cup. We should be more worried about Wenger's ability to get the guy settled and adjusted. If we don't think he's the right player for us then that is cool, but forget all that talk about him not being able to adjust because he's from another league. That says more about Wenger's coaching ability if anything.
Agree. The ukranian teams play a very high tempo games and is physical as well. This is not to say that he will not take time to adapt, but in my opinion would be a good buy. It will be great if we can add Martin and a one of Cahill or Jagielka . From what i have seen martin's a cross between Iniesta and Cesc fast, great close control, trickery vision and passing has the potential to be better than Cesc, which means him coming here is tough.

[fari]

He has European experience at least. Arshavin came from the Russian league and he's fine, it's just his fitness and Wenger playing him on the wings that's the problem.

Questioning the Ukraine leagues quality is a bit of insult considering these guys beat us, topped our CL group and won the UEFA Cup. We should be more worried about Wenger's ability to get the guy settled and adjusted. If we don't think he's the right player for us then that is cool, but forget all that talk about him not being able to adjust because he's from another league. That says more about Wenger's coaching ability if anything.

for real. the guy has also played for brazil a few times not so? shaktar as a team were excellent over the last two seasons especially for a team without a lot of 'brand name' players on their side. every player is a gamble but i feel that this guy just might be the little piece that gets us really ticking over. if we can couple some offensive power with some defensive stability (pray that kos and verms keep steady) then i think we can have a good season.

[Injury Time]

It's cool to visit. Crap when you are 24/7 365.
:(oh. Scratches it off place to live, tbh after The Reform restaurant closed the allure has been tarnished.

[KSE Comedy Club]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arsenal-snap-up-12m-jadson-as-new-cesc-fabregas-2336087.html


Arsene Wenger is convinced that the £12m purchase of Jadson, a Brazilian midfielder in the Cesc Fabregas mould, will enable Arsenal to build from their summer wreckage, as Manchester City hold out hope that £22m Samir Nasri could be their player in time to field him against Swansea City on Monday night.

Jadson, a tough, compact, 27-year-old attacking midfielder, revealed his capacity for goals in this summer's Copa America, though his arrival from Shakhtar Donetsk as a replacement for Fabregas – who is likely to follow Nasri out of the Emirates next week – will do little to lift the spirits of Arsenal supporters.

The Independent understands that manager Wenger was powerless to hold on to Nasri after a board meeting eight days ago at which principal shareholder Stan Kroenke insisted that it would be folly to sacrifice City's money and see the Frenchman leave as a free agent next summer. Wenger did not put up a fight and City hope to announce the signing of the player imminently.

City must lodge the transfer documents with the Premier League by midday today if they are to field the 24-year-old against the newly promoted Welsh side.

Confirmation is expected today of Nasri's five-year City deal, under which Nasri will earn around £165,000 a week – almost double the £90,000-a-week new deal he was offered to stay in north London.

With Fabregas likely to be on the way to Barcelona for a fee of €34m (£29.8m) paid up front and up to €6m in add-ons, Shakhtar's representatives were in London yesterday to discuss the sale of Jadson.

Though he is the best of the clutch of Brazilians at the Ukrainian club, a £12m deal would make them a £9m profit on the sum paid to Brazilian club side Atletico-PR in 2005. Jadson's spectacular goal against Paraguay for Brazil in the Copa America revealed his goal-scoring prowess and he is likely to be deployed in an advanced role in front of Jack Wilshere and Alex Song in the Arsenal midfield.

Few will see Jadson as a like-for-like replacement for Fabregas, despite his physical similarities to the Spaniard, and at 27 he is not the next big thing in Brazil. But Jadson arrives with the advantage of being ready to launch straight into the season, having been heavily involved in the Ukrainian campaign, which is well under way. He said yesterday: "If everything goes to plan, I'll have some news for everyone at the start of next week. Hope it works out."

City have been reluctant to discuss their moves for Nasri. The club are highly sensitive about the image of them using their wealth to take players without the customary diplomacy towards the clubs they are taking them from.

The City manager Roberto Mancini's public discussion of the Frenchman earlier this summer did not help their image. But although Nasri's departure will increase the number of Arsenal players who have moved to Eastlands to four – Emmanuel Adebayor, Kolo Touré, Gaël Clichy and Nasri – negotiations between the two clubs were said to be amicable yesterday.

Nasri's arrival may not halt City's moves for Fiorentina winger Alessio Cerci. Though a deal to bring in the 24-year-old is not imminent, the player is one whom Mancini has personally pushed to secure, and a Fiorentina valuation of £6m is not considered to represent a major gamble. Cerci is keen to leave the Serie A club following a falling-out with the manager, Sinisa Mihajlovic.

Arsenal have opened preliminary discussions with Birmingham City over the signing of £8m defender Scott Dann. Bolton are working to come closer to meeting Shaun Wright-Phillips' £70,000-a-week wage demands.

So, looks like Nasri may also be gone today as well.

[Kano]

if that part about the board is true, it would dispel some myths about wenger and the 'control' he has

[Boss]

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger won't be signing Newcastle midfielder Joey Barton despite describing him as "a great player".


The 28-year-old was centre of attention when the two sides drew 0-0 at St James' Park on Saturday as he was involved in the incident which saw Gunners debutant Gervinho sent off.

That came after a summer which saw Barton made available on a free transfer - and linked with Arsenal in some quarters - following his criticism of the Magpies' transfer policy.

In comments quoted in The Guardian, Wenger said: "Nobody dismisses signing Joey Barton but I don't think we envisage doing that at the moment.

"I like the courage of the player. He's a good player.

"Sometimes there's trouble with his temper but he's a great player."
He added jokingly: "Maybe the way to sort Barton out is to sign him.

"Maybe that's the solution."

http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/2011/08/15/Wenger-doubts-move-for-Magpies-ace/gnid-104614/?

Please sign him on a 1 week deal so that our squad can smash him in training and tell him to gtfo afterwards. :pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Would Jadson and Dann be enough to compensate?

I feel we should be after one more player but I think Vinger sees Ramsey with an important role this year.

[LDG]

No. We need to show real intent. Not just for the sake of the fans, but the sake of the players we currently have.

Whilst I don't think we played that badly on Saturday (we defo needed more penetration), it was clear there was still no leadership, and nobody to change the tempo of the game for us.

We badly need some real quality, not just someone to fill a gap for the sake of a few quid.

I would just chuck the lot at some real class. Benzema and Cahill would be excellent. I don't think we need much more in midfield, other than someone who can push the pace up. Something more direct. Arshavin would be exce;;ent through the middle.

BTW, he looked fit as fuck on Saturday. Really slim :faint:

[Marc Overmars]

I do think marquee signings is the only way Wenger can ease some of the immediate pressure on him, but since when has he bowed down to what the fans want anyway? He'll still be as stubborn as ever and do the minimal work needed.

[LDG]

Well, we'll know over the next couple of weeks just how ambitious we are.

Meantime, we've got a bitch of a game tomorrow. And I'm not looking forward to it one bit.

[Flavs]

No. We need to show real intent. Not just for the sake of the fans, but the sake of the players we currently have.

Whilst I don't think we played that badly on Saturday (we defo needed more penetration), it was clear there was still no leadership, and nobody to change the tempo of the game for us.

We badly need some real quality, not just someone to fill a gap for the sake of a few quid.

I would just chuck the lot at some real class. Benzema and Cahill would be excellent. I don't think we need much more in midfield, other than someone who can push the pace up. Something more direct. Arshavin would be exce;;ent through the middle.

BTW, he looked fit as fuck on Saturday. Really slim :faint:

After Benzema's sublime performance in the spanish super cup last night i think we can forget about that. In fact i cant see us buying anyone from a huge club like that under Wenger. When have we ever?

[Kano]

no way is or was benzema ever coming to us. he's the perfect target man for mourinho and will have a great season this time.

that sanchez guy looks pretty fucking amazing too

[Grebbo]

Why the hell are people talking about Benzema??!! Wenger doesn't sign stars - never has and never will. He wouldn't want to come here anyway and we wouldn't pay his wages, forget about it. Same with Tevez.

Wenger is going to have to unveil a couple of players tomorrow to give the fans and players a lift. We're going out otherwise.

[Flavs]

I cant help but wonder if we are waiting to see if we qualify for the chumps league before spending? The TV revenue is just silly so we could use the Fabregas/Nasri money to pay off the mortgage for the year and spend the chumps money on players.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

If the deals go through then two more of our players are out the dooor

However we will then have money to pay for the players we have been linked with, which I suppose their clubs have been demanding we have
So really there are no more excuses to not spend

not sure about Jadson except what I saw at the Copa, Dann OK but 1 more, Cahill or Jags then I would go after a striker that can play upfront with RvP - Nic is out which means more money - marquee players I wish but no go I think so how 10 or so for Obwinge , he has pace can play off RvP gets stuck in and we know can score, this may not be the ambitious signing of a top club but I think we need to go back to being a team and working for each other, we will not attract the kind of names that we can build a club around, Jack is our best bet at that and I will welcome back his directness, just hope he has developed a hunger for a goal or two

[Niall_Quinn]

Would Jadson and Dann be enough to compensate?

I feel we should be after one more player but I think Vinger sees Ramsey with an important role this year.

£50mill in transfer fees and about £18mill spent? I don't think that even begins to compensate. We won't do the right thing in the transfer market, that's the only thing we can be sure of.

[Niall_Quinn]

I cant help but wonder if we are waiting to see if we qualify for the chumps league before spending? The TV revenue is just silly so we could use the Fabregas/Nasri money to pay off the mortgage for the year and spend the chumps money on players.

Makes a lot of sense, it's the kind of fucked up way this board goes about things. Instead of strengthening to ensure we don't go out they would definitely hang on to see if the kids can pull us through.

[IBK]

He has European experience at least. Arshavin came from the Russian league and he's fine, it's just his fitness and Wenger playing him on the wings that's the problem.

Questioning the Ukraine leagues quality is a bit of insult considering these guys beat us, topped our CL group and won the UEFA Cup. We should be more worried about Wenger's ability to get the guy settled and adjusted. If we don't think he's the right player for us then that is cool, but forget all that talk about him not being able to adjust because he's from another league. That says more about Wenger's coaching ability if anything.

I don't think its an insult at all. They might have done well in Europe (we handed them our CL group on a fucking platter) but are you honestly saying that the Ukranian league is as strong as the EPL? Do me a favour! And yes Arshavin's fitness is and always has been an issue - and bears out what I am saying in this regards.

Clutch at as many straws as you like - but signing Jadson to replace Fabregas is like someone used to dining on prime steak then settling for KFC. Both perform a function but there can be no doubt that the former is better.

[Kano]

different players by the sounds of it and i'd be wholly surprised that someone from the ukraine league would not be ready for a physical game.

[IBK]

different players by the sounds of it and i'd be wholly surprised that someone from the ukraine league would not be ready for a physical game.

I wasn't trying to compare players per se - more comparing their pedigree. If we buy Jadson, he might be great. But I am surprised that people (not you) seem to be suggesting that his signing would be as promising as, say, Mata - or an equally 'recognised' creative MF.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No. We need to show real intent. Not just for the sake of the fans, but the sake of the players we currently have.

Whilst I don't think we played that badly on Saturday (we defo needed more penetration), it was clear there was still no leadership, and nobody to change the tempo of the game for us.

We badly need some real quality, not just someone to fill a gap for the sake of a few quid.

I would just chuck the lot at some real class. Benzema and Cahill would be excellent. I don't think we need much more in midfield, other than someone who can push the pace up. Something more direct. Arshavin would be exce;;ent through the middle.

BTW, he looked fit as fuck on Saturday. Really slim :faint:

We got no chance of getting him, Why he'd want to come to us would be a mystery, we be btter off going after Strurridge, ot get zeko or bellamy as part of the nasri deal.

[Boss]

Falcao's moving to Atletico Madrid apparently.

[Fist of Lehmann]

if that part about the board is true, it would dispel some myths about wenger and the 'control' he has
Isn't Wenger quoted as saying that keeping Nasri was "a techincal decision" and that the board accepted that? Therefore if it is a myth, it's one that Wenger has perpetuated too.

Also this is interesting in a couple of ways. A) in that Kroenke has started to exert some authority and B) how Wenger might react to that.

His autonomy (according to the AST) under the previous regime was virtually complete. Wasn't one of the reasons he rebuffed Real Madrid down to the lack of control/board interference he might experience there?

If Kronkers starts throwing his weight around, Wenger might review his job options.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Falcao's moving to Atletico Madrid apparently.

And there you have it, a team showing us how to do it
lose a quality player
get a decent wedge in return
spend that or some of that same wedge on another quailty player

lesson over

[Grebbo]

And there you have it, a team showing us how to do it
lose a quality player
get a decent wedge in return
spend that or some of that same wedge on another quailty player

lesson over

Has Arsene ever done this in his Arsenal career?

[IBK]

And there you have it, a team showing us how to do it
lose a quality player
get a decent wedge in return
spend that or some of that same wedge on another quailty player

lesson over

Ah - but why don't you look at how much profit Atletico have re-invested into the club - isn't that the principal purpose of a football club?

[Ironing]

Wenger played down Jadson link APPARENTLY

[Kano]

Isn't Wenger quoted as saying that keeping Nasri was "a techincal decision" and that the board accepted that? Therefore if it is a myth, it's one that Wenger has perpetuated too.

Also this is interesting in a couple of ways. A) in that Kroenke has started to exert some authority and B) how Wenger might react to that.

His autonomy (according to the AST) under the previous regime was virtually complete. Wasn't one of the reasons he rebuffed Real Madrid down to the lack of control/board interference he might experience there?

If Kronkers starts throwing his weight around, Wenger might review his job options.

well if what that article says is true, it appears to have taken place after he made that statement, he's the ultimate company man anyway so no surprise he keeps face.

I think most managers would find it difficult to head to a place like madrid after the relative freedom of the prem, the majority of the clubs here are structured differently than the other euro leagues.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Falcao's moving to Atletico Madrid apparently.
link?

[Fist of Lehmann]

well if what that article says is true, it appears to have taken place after he made that statement, he's the ultimate company man anyway so no surprise he keeps face.

I think most managers would find it difficult to head to a place like madrid after the relative freedom of the prem, the majority of the clubs here are structured differently than the other euro leagues.I doubt most mangers in the epl would turn down Real Madrid though.

[Power n Glory]

I don't think its an insult at all. They might have done well in Europe (we handed them our CL group on a fucking platter) but are you honestly saying that the Ukranian league is as strong as the EPL? Do me a favour! And yes Arshavin's fitness is and always has been an issue - and bears out what I am saying in this regards.

Clutch at as many straws as you like - but signing Jadson to replace Fabregas is like someone used to dining on prime steak then settling for KFC. Both perform a function but there can be no doubt that the former is better.

I'm not comparing the leagues at all. I just think it's silly to turn our noses up at player because he comes from a certain league when that team beat us in the CL, went further than us in the compitition and have won more honours than us over the past 6 years.

Where was Vidic and Hernandez before Man Utd? Shevechenko before Milan? Falcao before Porto? Tevez before coming to the Premier League?

You can find class players from different leagues that are able to adapt. Eduardo would have been a class player for us if he hadn't have broken his leg and he came for the Croatian league. He had a good goal scoring record for club and country. If we don't think he's the right player for us, I would rather you said you've seen him play and he's not the right type for us or he's too old. You can't hold the league he plays in against him.

I get what your saying, after selling two big names, we should go out and get two big names, but that's never going to happen. If that's not an option, I don't mid Wenger doing what he used to do and finding gems that nobody has paid attention to. It might not fill the fans with confidence, but once the players see a class signing training with them on the pitch, we'll at least get a change in attitude from the players.

[Kano]

I doubt most mangers in the epl would turn down Real Madrid though.

i'm not so sure myself, i could never see those that are not used to the european system heading into that sort of madness.

toshack and venables did however

[AKBapologist]

Following Cesc Fabregas sale: Net transfer spend since '04 #Arsenal +£30.1m #MUFC -£150.52m #CFC -£412.83m #MCFC -£471.57m #THFC -£236.6m

[Letters]

Where the hell to spurs get their money from? :blink:

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Galatasaray announce they have officially opened negotiations with Arsenal's Emmanuel Eboue, reports Sky Sports.

Arsenal are like a london bus nobody leaves for a long time, they they all go toegether

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Where the hell to spurs get their money from? :blink:
The Jews of north london, their owners are wealthy tbh

[Fist of Lehmann]

Where the hell to spurs get their money from? :blink:
Please let it be drugs trafficking :pray:

[IBK]

I'm not comparing the leagues at all. I just think it's silly to turn our noses up at player because he comes from a certain league when that team beat us in the CL, went further than us in the compitition and have won more honours than us over the past 6 years.

Where was Vidic and Hernandez before Man Utd? Shevechenko before Milan? Falcao before Porto? Tevez before coming to the Premier League?

You can find class players from different leagues that are able to adapt. Eduardo would have been a class player for us if he hadn't have broken his leg and he came for the Croatian league. He had a good goal scoring record for club and country. If we don't think he's the right player for us, I would rather you said you've seen him play and he's not the right type for us or he's too old. You can't hold the league he plays in against him.

I get what your saying, after selling two big names, we should go out and get two big names, but that's never going to happen. If that's not an option, I don't mid Wenger doing what he used to do and finding gems that nobody has paid attention to. It might not fill the fans with confidence, but once the players see a class signing training with them on the pitch, we'll at least get a change in attitude from the players.

Fair enough - and I catch your drift, mate and agree that if he is a class act then that's a lot better than getting in someone mediocre. I guess I am just frustrated that despite having money to spend, the manager absolutely refuses to go with a tried and tested player. I take your point about almost all players being nobodies at some stage, and the successes that the likes of Manure have had with obscure names, but I do think our current situation is different. Our club deperately needs a shot in the arm after an horrendous Summer - and like it or not if we buy the likes of Dann or Jadson it makes us look small time, and just doesn't create the feel good feeling we need.

[Darth Vela]

Has Arsene ever done this in his Arsenal career?

9m of the 16m we got for Henry went on Eduardo, that's more than half but not what I'd call a 'significant chunk' though.

Fwiw, I don't know where we'd get anyone as good as Cesc, if Jadson adds more of a goal threat and has a decent amount of creativity he'd be handy but I'd like to see us have a bash at Arteta, like Cesc but more suited for the Premiership, Everton won't be able to resist a big bid for both him and Jagielka as they're pretty poor.

[Grebbo]

Where the hell to spurs get their money from? :blink:

Their bank account. Arsenal are more of a savings account (for their owner) than a football team.

[Niall_Quinn]

9m of the 16m we got for Henry went on Eduardo, that's more than half but not what I'd call a 'significant chunk' though.

Fwiw, I don't know where we'd get anyone as good as Cesc, if Jadson adds more of a goal threat and has a decent amount of creativity he'd be handy but I'd like to see us have a bash at Arteta, like Cesc but more suited for the Premiership, Everton won't be able to resist a big bid for both him and Jagielka as they're pretty poor.

Arteta has gone off the boil a bit in recent seasons, IMO. He lacks a little bit sharpness. I'd be delighted with Parker, Bellamy, Cahill, Samba and Baines. As a bare minimum.

[Marc Overmars]

Eboue is off to Galatasaray.

Most important news of the day tbh.

Clearouts. :bow:

[Darth Vela]

Arteta has gone off the boil a bit in recent seasons, IMO. He lacks a little bit sharpness. I'd be delighted with Parker, Bellamy, Cahill, Samba and Baines. As a bare minimum.

Not one of those is a creative midfielder though, which is what it looked like we were missing against Newcastle. Fair comment about Arteta but he's got the skills and with a step-up he might put a little more effort in, I'd certainly have a look.

[Marc Overmars]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

[Grebbo]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

What does he expect? The arrogance and stupidity of these players is astounding.

[Marc Overmars]

I smell an Adebayor style celebration if he scores against us.

[Niall_Quinn]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

He'll use it as an excuse, he's a slimy little shit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not one of those is a creative midfielder though, which is what it looked like we were missing against Newcastle. Fair comment about Arteta but he's got the skills and with a step-up he might put a little more effort in, I'd certainly have a look.

I'm looking for a slightly more mindlessly violent approach to our play.

[Kano]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

fair enough. everything about this so far has been pure speculation, so it shows the arsenal fans up more than anything.

if he was to stay and score, i wonder what the reaction then would be...

[Letters]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

I didn't, what were they singing?

[Darth Vela]

I'm looking for a slightly more mindlessly violent approach to our play.

:lol:

Fair enough, might well work.

[Letters]

I didn't, what were they singing?

?

[KESSLER]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ulAZCDmTb4

[Boss]

link?

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/08/14/2620148/portos-radamel-falcao-says-atletico-madrid-move-would-be-a-great-

(originally from Marca)

They're supposed to be buying him because Forlan is leaving.

If Forlan is available, sign him up ffs Wenger.

Diego bhai would win us the league.

[LDG]

:haha:

[Letters]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ulAZCDmTb4

How rude and accurate!

:lol:

[Flavs]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.


Today you are but tomorrow?

Also Galatasaray have confirmed they are in talks with Eboue

[IBK]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

The transformation into Adebayor is complete. Like Greedybayor, the hypocrisy and self righteousness of this twat is sickening. Hope he goes the same way as Whore.

[Kano]

The transformation into Adebayor is complete. Like Greedybayor, the hypocrisy and self righteousness of this twat is sickening. Hope he goes the same way as Whore.

really? you'd be hard pushed to compare this is Ade, when Nas has said nothing bar two tweets and Ade was happy to flaunt himself publicly.

[IBK]

really? you'd be hard pushed to compare this is Ade, when Nas has said nothing bar two tweets and Ade was happy to flaunt himself publicly.

Well Whore is the only other player I know who has dissed the fans - and he's agitating for a move out having had a single standout season. Seems very similar to me.

[Kano]

a player moving is nothing new but do you think he should stay silent if he's being chanted about? He's hardly battered the fans with that sort of comment, it's more than merited.

if they give, then they have to take it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Well Whore is the only other player I know who has dissed the fans - and he's agitating for a move out having had a single standout season. Seems very similar to me.

What were the fans singing, can't see the vid at work, thanks in advance.

[fakeyank]

What were the fans singing, can't see the vid at work, thanks in advance.

:gp:

I cant either

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Where the hell to spurs get their money from? :blink:

selling bagels Avi

[Chrissie]

:gp:

I cant either


LiberoFootball Viral Shah
RT @DanielNotaro: @tomEurosport nanananana nasri is a c***, is a c***, nasri is a c***.
2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Grebbo]

:gp:

I cant either

They're singing the Nasri song but saying "Samir you're a cunt, Samir you're a cunt" na na na na etc

[Darth Vela]

That's pretty awesome actually, not sure I agree with singing songs about players BEFORE they leave us but but I'll probably be singing that all day.

[Boss]

@garyalsmith tweets about Emmanuel Eboue's proposed move to Galatasaray: "Break: Radio Abidjan report Eboue arrives in Istanbul 8:30pm local time. Terms agreed with AFC. Would have his medical today."

:rose:

[GP]

http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9396815.jpg

[Japan Shaking All Over]

" I heard what fans were singing about me on Saturday and it is really disrespectful because I am still an arsenal player"

Nasri just tweeted that.

then fucking act like one you twat.......go to the kit room get your fucking shirt on and play you fuck......instead of pouting around, with your dick in one hand and your mobile in your other, tweeting shit about how you think we should all be treating, when all you are doing to us is fucking us up the arse you ungrateful piece of shit..........disrespectful?


I"ll show you the fucking meaning of disrespectful.......once I finished with another cunt Joey Barton........now FO you gobshite

[Niall_Quinn]

:rose:

Let's hope we didn't have to pay them too much.

[Joker]

Haha, nice to see that little shit Nasri getting offended by what the fans were chanting on Saturday. Disrespectful? Your behaviour's been disrespectful all summer you stupid piece of shit.

[Fist of Lehmann]

:rose:Biggest clearout in Wenger history.
But what about Almonster and Benders?

[Joker]

Biggest clearout in Wenger history.
But what about Almonster and Benders?

I don't think there are clubs willing to meet their wage demands, which means there's a good chance we're lumbered with them for the season.

[Boss]

Doubt Almunia's on high wage, can't see too many clubs interested in him but Malaga will hopefully take him off our hands.

Wouldn't mind Bendtner staying as we're not buying a striker and we only have one up front (Van Persie) at the moment.

[Letters]

Let's hope we didn't have to pay them too much.

We just had to meet the cost of dry-cleaning his tiger suit.
Bargain, tbh,

[alexander]

Doubt Almunia's on high wage, can't see too many clubs interested in him but Malaga will hopefully take him off our hands.

Wouldn't mind Bendtner staying as we're not buying a striker and we only have one up front (Van Persie) at the moment.

If he is played centrally he will get goals, but wenger the mong plays him right wing. fool.

[Joker]

Bendtner's better than Chamakh (although there are Championship strikers who are better than Chamakh) but ideally we'd get rid of both and sign two quality strikers who can give RVP some real competition and step in when he gets injured.

[Master Splinter]

Nasri hasn't spoken about other clubs in the press like Adebayor.

He hasn't hired his mates to tap himself up on TV, twitter, etc..

Fabregas is a far bigger cunt.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

After Bender's last comments about definute departure, I cannot see him staying.......somethinf will happen before the end of this window and it will mean that wwe have lost a ton of players......Clichy, Denislson, Cesc, Nas, Eboue and Bender and with Almunia that will be at least 1 from every part of the field, with 3 in, 2 kids who are not ready for the first team and another whose red card takes him out of the team for a possible 3 matches

Makes the sinking of The Irish Rover pale in comparison


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au30c9ZMIPg

[Olivier's xmas twist]

They're singing the Nasri song but saying "Samir you're a cunt, Samir you're a cunt" na na na na etc
If Only they added cesc on that

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Werder Bremen chairman Willi Lemke would be prepared to sell Per Mertesacker in the current transfer window.

The Weserstadion official has revealed he would listen to offers for the centre-back, and goalkeeper Tim Wiese, if manager Thomas Schaaf believed it was the best decision.

Mertesacker has entered the final year of his contract and has for several years been linked with Arsenal, who have money to spend following the sale of Cesc Fabregas to Barcelona.

Wiese is also on an expiring deal and recently admitted discusses regarding an extension had been put on hold until the autumn.

Lemke told Welt am Sonntag newspaper: "If the sporting authorities come and ask, we would grant their request for selling these players.

"Simply because they are on outrunning deals and unlike this season we would not receive any money for their services next summer."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_7103303,00.html

Linked with this cunt again

[Niall_Quinn]

Grubby agents all over Europe will be bugging us from now on to get a slice of the Fabregas/ Nasri money. We'll be linked with just about everyone but will probably but no one. After all, it's hard to find players of comparable quality to Chamakh and Squillaci - bloody hard if even possible!

[Master Splinter]

Tottenham striker Robbie Keane has joined Major League Soccer side LA Galaxy for an undisclosed fee.

Keane, who had also been linked with Leicester City, said he was "honoured, delighted and very excited" to be joining the American side.

Details of the transfer fee and length of contract have not been announced, but it is reported to be a £3.5m deal.

"I have always wanted to come and play in MLS so it's the perfect combination for me and a dream come true," he said

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14525931.stm

Keane :lol:

He seems to have an endless supply of dreams. I'm sure he fulfilled a dream when he signed for Spurs. Then when he went to Liverpool. Then it was a dream for him to return to Spurs after flopping during his Liverpool dream. Then dream loan moves to Celtic and West Ham. And now this great dream to play for a pub team.

[Alias]

This is getting scary. We have 16 days left to buy players and we just continue to sell all our players and not buy. Wenger better have a plan, but knowing he doesnt,.

[selassie]

http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9396815.jpg

:lol:

[Cripps_orig]

Robbie Keane :lol:Apparently it was a dream to play in the MLS. He's said the same shit for all the clubs he's played for I think

[hobson's choice]

I don't even want to talk about our so-called transfer targets anymore, just depresses me.

[milla]

Nasri hasn't spoken about other clubs in the press like Adebayor.

He hasn't hired his mates to tap himself up on TV, twitter, etc..

Fabregas is a far bigger cunt.

:gp:

Apart from not signing his new contract, Nasri hasnt done anything wrong to this club. Dont understand hatred towards Nasri, he clearly said he wants to play for ambitious team. Arsenal isnt ambitious enough, that's why players are leaving, period! :coffee:

[WengerISaLizard]

I don't even want to talk about our so-called transfer targets anymore, just depresses me.

Agreed, i don't even check for available tickets anymore at this point, i'm not paying to watch a youth club

[KSE Comedy Club]

Doubt Almunia's on high wage, can't see too many clubs interested in him but Malaga will hopefully take him off our hands.

Wouldn't mind Bendtner staying as we're not buying a striker and we only have one up front (Van Persie) at the moment.

Cambell is bendy's replacement.

[Thierrymon]

Joe Cole has emerged as a shock transfer target for Arsenal as the Londoners prepare for life without Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri.

The Liverpool midfielder has struggled to hold down a regular place in Kenny Dalglish's side after enduring a difficult debut season characterised by injuries and a loss of form.

Cole's situation on Merseyside has been compounded further by the summer arrivals of midfield signings Jordan Henderson, Charlie Adam and Stewart Downing.

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is now willing to offer Cole an escape route from his Anfield nightmare as the French tactician seeks replacements for Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri, who are bound for Barcelona and Manchester City respectively.

Wenger still sees potential in Cole and he believes the former West Ham man can still do a job in central midfield or on the left-wing.

The Merseyside club are looking to get Cole's £90,000 weekly wages off their books, but Wenger will ask the player to take a considerable pay-cut if he is to secure a switch back to London.

The 29-year-old's switch from Chelsea to Liverpool wad widely regarded as one of the major transfers coups of last summer, with former Kop boss Roy Hodgson snapping up the playmaker on a free.

Premier League new boys QPR have also been linked with a move but Cole is convinced he can still play at the very top level.


http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-consider-shock-swoop-for-liverpool-midfielder-937/

:ilt: if this happens.

[fakeyank]

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-consider-shock-swoop-for-liverpool-midfielder-937/

:ilt: if this happens.

:ilt:

[milla]

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-consider-shock-swoop-for-liverpool-midfielder-937/

:ilt: if this happens.

That is utter bullshite tbh :coffee:

[Japan Shaking All Over]

although I do remember being not against Cole when he was leaving Chelsea he has proven he hasnt got what it takes and we would be stupid to pay anything for him

we are going to be linked with every need a job player there is..........a got a few spare pinches of salt for these rumours to be taken with if anyone is in need

[Özim]

I just don't get the attitude Wenger has towards transfers, yesterday he mentioned Jenkinson, Gervinho, Oxo Cuby and Miyake (or whatever his name is) and pointed to the fact they mustn't be forgotten as they are new signings.

3 of them are kids who in reality won't be ready to make an impact and yet he see's those as significant additions and then says he'll only add if he finds the right players. It's very confusing as we could have signed loads of players who improve us, for some reason Wenger doesn't see them and often goes and signs players who don't improve us.

His attitude is weird, he's failed for 6 years, is losing players left right and centre and yet refuses to make changes and make some quality signings for once, it's like he prefers to fail then spend money, even when he has cash burning a hole in his pocket.

What happened to the man who use to love winning and built the top teams we saw, what has made him view 4th as a trophy and made him lose his hunger for success. People say he's hungry for success, but what evidence is there, everytime he fails he changes next to nothing.

[Boss]

:gp:

Apart from not signing his new contract, Nasri hasnt done anything wrong to this club. Dont understand hatred towards Nasri, he clearly said he wants to play for ambitious team. Arsenal isnt ambitious enough, that's why players are leaving, period! :coffee:

This.

[Özim]

:gp:

Apart from not signing his new contract, Nasri hasnt done anything wrong to this club. Dont understand hatred towards Nasri, he clearly said he wants to play for ambitious team. Arsenal isnt ambitious enough, that's why players are leaving, period! :coffee:
Pretty much, a lot of anger directed at the players who want to leave, yet the fans hate what's going on just as much. I'm confused as to why they expect players to want to stick around in what is a losing side at a club with a losing mentality.

Got no problems with the players leaving, they haven't done anything bad to the club, they just want to be somewhere where they can believe success is possible and not experience calamitous collapses when it matters most.

If I was a player I'd do the same, I'd leave because frankly no changes, constant failures and no ambition would be very disheartening. I'd prefer to be at a club who aim to better themselves than at one who see 4th place as some momentus success.

[LDG]

Fucksake. We're going into a champs league qualifier, a home game at Liverpool, and away game at Utd with 17 squad players. Of whom, Diaby, Wilshire, Rosicky are unfit. Bender, Eboue, Almunia off. And Nasri on strike.

Song will be suspended for the league ties, RVP is suspended tonight (as is Arsene btw). Gervinho is now going to be out for four games because our STUPID manager is on a moral crusade which he has no hope of winning.

And we're looking at buying bargain basement shite....maybe.

We have no fucking payers.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!

[Marc Overmars]

As Wenger said, there is reason to be positive.

[LDG]

As Wenger said, there is reason to be positive.

I'll shove positive up him. Fuckin HIV positive.

Wanker.

[Özim]

I don't know if anyone can make sense of what Wenger does these days, it's all very odd......when you lose a top player you always look to spend the cash on a replacement, he doesn't seem to be too concerned.

[Master Splinter]

I'll shove positive up him. Fuckin HIV positive.

Wanker.

Has the shit been delivered to Chez Wenger yet?

[Letters]

Wenger :bow:





:upset:

[LDG]

It's bizarre.

I mean, I'm all for adding promising players, and AOC, Campbell, Miyachi and Jenkinson are all very promising. Fair dos, excellent, can't wait to see what they become. Fully behind their purchase.

But to say we're not signing anyone else because these unprovens are to be given a chance is fucking ludicrous.

We've got the toughest opening few games I can remember in a season, and we have no seniority. Nobody has yet been given club captain status. We have injuries and suspensions. The fans are unhappy, the players are unhappy, and there doesn't seem to be much light at the end of the tunnel.

[LDG]

Has the shit been delivered to Chez Wenger yet?

I can't hire a cement mixer for love nor money.

I'm working on it.

[Marc Overmars]

Can you imagine if things don't go our way tonight?

All that fist shaking from the upper tier, would not want to be on the end of that!

[Letters]

If we go 1-0 down my monocle may fall out <_<

[GP]

Can you imagine if things don't go our way tonight?

All that fist shaking from the upper tier, would not want to be on the end of that!

the fisting only happens in club level.

So who's captain tonight? Tommy?

[LDG]

If we go 1-0 down my monocle may fall out <_<

Your face might fall out.

[Master Splinter]

Can you imagine if things don't go our way tonight?

All that fist shaking from the upper tier, would not want to be on the end of that!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdoF_j9u59U

[Flavs]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11670_7105542,00.html

Oh ffs.

Look he is a decent striker when played as a striker, he is not a right or left winger and he is quite the tosser, he is also not really needed so just sell the cunt.

jesus if we end up keeping hiom and Nasri its the final straw

[Grebbo]

A proper club would have some new signings announced before the game if their captain and best player had just been sold.

Not us.

The players must feel like shit. Where is this club going?

It's going to be a very nasty atmosphere tonight.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

think rvp and theo may think about leaving next year if we carry on at this rate.

the club is a disaster atm.