This Weekend's Fixtures (19/20 Dec).

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saturday, 19th December 2015
Chelsea v Sunderland, 15:00
Everton v Leicester, 15:00
Man Utd v Norwich, 15:00
Southampton v Tottenham, 15:00
Stoke v Crystal Palace, 15:00
West Brom v Bournemouth, 15:00
Newcastle v Aston Villa, 17:30 http://e2.365dm.com/tvlogos/pixel/ss1hd.gif

Sunday, 20 December 2015
Watford v Liverpool, 13:30 http://e2.365dm.com/tvlogos/pixel/ss1hd.gif
Swansea v West Ham, 13:30

Monday, 21st December 2015
The Arsenal v Man City, 20:00

------------------------------

http://i65.tinypic.com/dc7neo.png

Stuck our fixture in just for completion.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

wherefore art thou Maccy? :(

Norwich 1 up against Man Utd :haha::haha:


Chelsea winning 2 nil in their 6 pointer against Sunderland.

[Master Splinter]

Half-time scores:

Chelsea 2-0 Sunderland - Ivanovic, Pedro.
Everton 1-1 Leicester - Mahrez pel, Lukaku.
Man Utd 0-1 Norwich - Jerome. :haha:
Southampton 0-2 Tottenham - Kane, Alli.
Stoke 0-1 Crystal Palace - Wickham pel.
West Brom 0-0 Bournemouth - McClean sent off for West Brom.


Mourinho :haha:.

United :haha: :haha:. Cameron fucking Jerome.

Southampton :doh:.

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea 3-0 Sunderland, Oscar pel.

Mourinho :haha:.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Chelsea fans allgedely chanting ""Hazard, Cesc and Costa, we hope that you die"" ....... talk about a classy club.


Mourinho ..... :haha:

Their dumb fans are too thick to realise that he was the problem.

[Master Splinter]

Chelsea 3-1 Sunderland, Borini.

[Master Splinter]

Man United 0 - 2 Norwich, TETTEY!!!!!

:haha: :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Bournemouth winning as well. Eddie Howe doing a fantastic job there.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Van Genius :haha::haha:

Wazza :haha::haha:

[Master Splinter]

West Brom 0-1 Bournemouth, Smith.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd. :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Man United 1-2 Norwich, Martial.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

FFS Norwich ... don't fuck this up lads.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Leicester Pelanty :doh::doh:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

2 - 1 to Leceister.

Oh well, unlikely that we'll be top before the new year then.

They just keep on winning.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

WTF Leicester?

Neverton. :haha:

1-3 Okazaki.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I mean they surely couldn't do it ........ could they?

Everton away is a difficult game.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Stoke equalise from a pelanty.

Quite a lot of them being dished out today.

[Master Splinter]

West Brom 1-1 Bournemouth, McAuley.

Come on Bournemouth.

[Master Splinter]

West Brom 1-2 Bournemouth, Daniels pel!

Pulis :haha:.

[Kano]

5 of the past 6 PL winners have been top at Christmas :faint:

[Master Splinter]

Stoke 1-2 Crystal Palace, Lee!

Stoke :haha:.

[Master Splinter]

Smalling :haha:.

He just lost LVG his job.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Everton 2-3 Leicester, Mirallas.

[Master Splinter]

Man United 1-2 Norwich. Full time!!


:haha: :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd 1-2 Norwich, FT!

:haha:

[Master Splinter]

Rondon goes mental and gets sent off.

Pulis :haha:.

[Master Splinter]

Leicester :wacko:.

Ranieri :bow:.

Mahrez is surely the biggest Must Get ever?

Bournemouth :bow:.

Eddie Howe :bow:.

[Marc Overmars]

Bloody hell Leicester. :bow:

LVG. :haha:

Off you pop.

[Letters]

Man United 1-2 Norwich. Full time!!


:haha: :haha:
:haha:

They've taken over from ManYoo as the PL laughing stock.

[Letters]

Leicester :wacko:.
Pretty much. What the hell are they playing at?!

[Özim]

League is rubbish this year, explains how a team like Leicester can be 5 points clear at the top, last season they were bottom at this stage, says it all really.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Yeah. Nowhere near as good as the glorious sunshiney days of 92/93.

Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk

[Master Splinter]

Newcastle XI: Elliot, Janmaat, Mbemba, Coloccini, Dummett Sissoko, Anita, Colback, Wijnaldum, De Jong, Cisse.

Aston Villa XI: Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Lescott, Bacuna, Sanchez, Gueye, Westwood, Sinclair, Ayew, Veretout.

Still 0-0 in this.

[Ernesto]

If we don't win the league this season, I hope Leicester win it.

I know that's straight from the University of the Bleedin' Obvious, but still.

[fakeyank]

Twitter is picking up steam that Utd are going in for Mourinho..

[Xhaka Can’t]

Twitter is picking up steam that Utd are going in for Mourinho..

Hopefully as a double act with van Genius.

[Globalgunner]

Twitter is picking up steam that Utd are going in for Mourinho..

Guardiola has obviously turned them down. They are welcome to him

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

So supposedly Guardiola to City, and Mourinho to United.

Tbf that would be :popcorn:

[GP]

FFS mourinho needs to fuck off.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

League is rubbish this year, explains how a team like Leicester can be 5 points clear at the top, last season they were bottom at this stage, says it all really.

You really aren't delighted by the chavs and Maureen situation, eh pal?

[Xhaka Can’t]

FFS mourinho needs to fuck off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVLlRbvFLHk

[Niall_Quinn]

FFS mourinho needs to fuck off.

And die. tbf.

[Niall_Quinn]

If we don't win the league this season, I hope Leicester win it.

I know that's straight from the University of the Bleedin' Obvious, but still.

Same here. Time to stop taking them lightly. Serious manager, serious players who seem to have the business of football as their primary focus. Pellegrini, Wenger and van Genius are being shown up here.

[fakeyank]

I wonder how Leicester would fare without Vardy and/or Mahrez. But if luck is shining on them, they'll stay fit till the end of the season.

[Kano]

You really aren't delighted by the chavs and Maureen situation, eh pal?

Zimbot only recognises the little guy when he's being crushed.

[GP]

I wonder how Leicester would fare without Vardy and/or Mahrez. But if luck is shining on them, they'll stay fit till the end of the season.

Leicester are fucked if they lose Mahrez.


On an unrelated note, we should buy Mahrez

[Letters]

Yeah. Nowhere near as good as the glorious sunshiney days of 92/93.

Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk

He's just upset because his beloved Mourinho has completely humiliated himself this season.

[Letters]

The league is more competitive and interesting this year, that can only be a good thing. Unless the manager you support had been so cramp he's taken the reigning champions close to the relegation zone and then been sacked.

[Ernesto]

As far as Mourinho's concerned, isn't there a clue in the job title? As manager, you are to 'manage' people, 'manage' their personalities and egos. He clearly hasn't been able to and he's come off this situation with far more credit than he should.

No doubt we'd behave the same as Chelsea fans if Wenger was sacked due to evident underperforming players. It isn't the first time fans have protested against a famed manager leaving- this is peanuts compared to Clough and Derby County back in 1973. Point is, they'll soon forget about Mourinho and maybe then reactionary feelings of sympathy will make way for a sober realization (particularly if he joins Manchester United as is increasingly likely)

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder how Leicester would fare without Vardy and/or Mahrez. But if luck is shining on them, they'll stay fit till the end of the season.

We're almost at the halfway stage - long after the early season bump or luck factor winds down. Leicester are there because they deserve to be and if their training regime is conducive to long term fitness and the medical staff aren't homicidal maniacs then good for them.

[Niall_Quinn]

He's just upset because his beloved Mourinho has completely humiliated himself this season.

The chav playas are absolute cocks too, there should be a reckoning for them in this saga but they'll walk through it all and keep on cashing those cheques. Joke of a club.

[Özim]

You really aren't delighted by the chavs and Maureen situation, eh pal?

Eh?? Don't know what you're on about pal, was just saying a mid/bottom half of the table team leading the PL by 5 points at the moment just shows how sh*t the league is (we already knew this anyway), big teams have been shocking this season tbh.

[Letters]

Loads of players are absolute cocks these days. As manager it's his job to...manage those cocks.
And maybe doing things like sacking your club doctor for doing her job and publicly blaming your players, the ref, anyone but yourself for your failings isn't the best way to go about things.
He's shown repeatedly he can attain short term success - usually with the help of a chequebook and/or an inherited good squad. He's also shown repeatedly he's a very poor bet long term as no-one can stick him for long and then someone else has to come and pick up the pieces.
Toxic.

[Özim]

He's just upset because his beloved Mourinho has completely humiliated himself this season.

A) I'm not upset
B) This has nothing to do with Mourinho
C) Mourinho is a top manager, this doesn't change anything
D) Leicester a team bottom at this stage last season, who are at best a mid table team (and that's being kind) are top
E) Man City, Man U, Chelsea the best three teams of the last decade have all been poor this season so far
F) It's true the the league really is dogshite
G) WUM

[Letters]

Eh?? Don't know what you're on about pal, was just saying a mid/bottom half of the table team leading the PL by 5 points at the moment just shows how sh*t the league is (we already knew this anyway), big teams have been shocking this season tbh.

But that's a good thing, you dolt.
What interest is there in a league when you know at the start of the season who the top 2 or 3 will be?
Predictability is death in sport, this has been the best PL season for ages so far.

[Letters]

A) I'm not upset
I can tell that by how upset you seem in every post. Cheer up, we might lose to City :)

G) WUM
Occasionally, but it takes WUM to know WUM...

[Özim]

But that's a good thing, you dolt.
What interest is there in a league when you know at the start of the season who the top 2 or 3 will be?
Predictability is death in sport, this has been the best PL season for ages so far.

It is a good thing, but it still feels like a really poor quality season, there isn't a team that really looks like Championship class, no team that stands out. As much as it's nice to see Leicester there, can't see them maintaining it and I personally like to see a team win the title through good play and championship form rather than picking it up because every other team isn't really playing well.

It was great when we were challenging and Man U were also a top team which made it all the more staisfying when we won, there's none of that this season, the top teams really have been poor.

[Özim]

I can tell that by how upset you seem in every post. Cheer up, we might lose to City :)

Occasionally, but it takes WUM to know WUM...

All I can say is don't get a job as a mindreader as you're not up to the task, I'm not in the least bit upset as it's doesn't affect me in any way, doesn't mean I can't have an opinion which differs from a select few.

[LDG]

It is a good thing, but it still feels like a really poor quality season, there isn't a team that really looks like Championship class, no team that stands out. As much as it's nice to see Leicester there, can't see them maintaining it and I personally like to see a team win the title through good play and championship form rather than picking it up because every other team isn't really playing well.

It was great when we were challenging and Man U were also a top team which made it all the more staisfying when we won, there's none of that this season, the top teams really have been poor.

It's been the same for abour four or five seasons. Utd's last title under Fergie was dull, Chelsea were dull last year, City won it by default (albeit with some more attractive footy)....the only season in recent memory that was more exciting (from a neutral perspective) was when City and Utd were head to head.

Football has drowned in it's own shit for years, and you'll never get the same as with Henry, Bergkamp, Pires et al again, as that kind of thing is an exception to the norm.

I'm also don't think we'll win it, as I'm afraid we'll fall over our feet again as usual....but if we do win it, however it is won, I'll be fucking happy as a kid at Christmas.

Come on the Arse! Prove me wrong :scarf:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 1-0 Liverpool, Ake!

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bogdan. :haha:

Jesus wept.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

He's called Bogdan ffs.

Doomed from the start.


Hang on that's surely a foul? :lol:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Bog standard keeping there.


:getcoat:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

FF points :dance:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

2 - 0 now! Ighalo

Klopp :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Ogadolo?

:lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ighalo. :bow:

What a beast.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Watford 2-0 Liverpool, Ighalo :bow:

Skrtel. :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Ogadolo?

:lol:

Forgot his name and ended up with a hybrid of his first and second name. :doh:


Anyway, got to say as bad as Pool were for the goals, Watford have been fantastic. Thank fuck we've already played them away.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Ighalo! Oh!
Always believe in your soul!
You've got the power to know, you're indistructable!
Always believe in...ighalo! Oh!

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Skrtel is dead.

Toure on plz :pray:

[Master Splinter]

Liverpool :haha: :haha:.

Bog Dan :haha:.

[Master Splinter]

Liverpool should probably get Butland before he becomes United's De Gea replacement.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Lallana. :haha:

Proper comic relief this victims team.

[Letters]

It was great when we were challenging and Man U were also a top team which made it all the more staisfying when we won, there's none of that this season, the top teams really have been poor.
It was great that we were successful but the league wasn't that competitive, it was us or them.
I'd rather see a league where a team can win the league one year and finish 10th the next, a league where 5 or 6 teams can credibly win the league each season.
What's boring is when the same 2 teams are up there every year and the whole way football is set up contrives to keep them up there.

[Master Splinter]

Coutinho isn't due another half-decent performance or hit 'n' hope for another month or so, so Liverpool have nothing to offer.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 HT.

Liverpool's title to lose. :bow:

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Watford 2-0 Liverpool, HT.

Klopp. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Liverpool are seriously shite.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

John Barnes is only in the studio...

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Wonder if Klopp will lead a celebration in front of the fans at the end of this match? :hm:

[Niall_Quinn]

This game is being streamed live On YouTube by some enterprising pirate :haha:

That's funny in so many ways.

[Master Splinter]

Great manager Klopp will start to make Rodgers look good soon:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWrGtyRUkAEwP0e.png

[Niall_Quinn]

Top manager Klopp will start to make Rodgers look good soon:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWrGtyRUkAEwP0e.png

tbf, those stats don't highlight the fact Rodgers signed a billion trillion quids worth of crap to get those 12 points. And Klopp is stuck with all that shit and has to make some sort of team out of it until next month at least. We'll know more about Klopp next season when he's had a chance to clear out the Rodgers dross and bring a few players of his own in. Huge job though, so much money spent for so little return. Klopp will have to be brave enough to completely ignore Ashton and Holt etc and turf turds like Lalana out. Fortunately for him the clapped out Stevie Me has already gone so he won't have to battle the press on that one.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Moreno slips at the vital moment. :haha:

Skrtel hauled off for Origi.

Origi shot, easy for Gomes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Horrible cross from Henderson.

[Master Splinter]

tbf, those stats don't highlight the fact Rodgers signed a billion trillion quids worth of crap to get those 12 points. And Klopp is stuck with all that shit and has to make some sort of team out of it until next month at least. We'll know more about Klopp next season when he's had a chance to clear out the Rodgers dross and bring a few players of his own in. Huge job though, so much money spent for so little return. Klopp will have to be brave enough to completely ignore Ashton and Holt etc and turf turds like Lalana out. Fortunately for him the clapped out Stevie Me has already gone so he won't have to battle the press on that one.

So you make excuses for Klopp, while damning the rest of the league for being made to look like charlatans by Leicester?

There are enough good players in that squad for Klopp to be doing much better. Never mind not getting the best out of what is still a decent core of players, some of his decisions and reshuffles are as odd as Rodgers'.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Someone needs to make Moreno into a winger because I'm a better defender than him. And I'm really shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a scramble!

Ighalo dumps Sakho on his backside. :lol:

[Master Splinter]

Sakho :haha:.

Ighalo's trick :bow:.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

TIMBER!

[Niall_Quinn]

So you make excuses for Klopp, while damning the rest of the league for being made to look like charlatans by Leicester?

There are enough good players in that squad for Klopp to be doing much better. Never mind not getting the best out of what is still a decent core of players, some of his decisions and reshuffles are as odd as Rodgers'.

He's been in the job a few weeks FFS. It's not even time to start making excuses for him. Rodgers made a horrible mess. Maybe Klopp can fix it, maybe not, but give the guy the chance to get his feet under the desk.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ffs Ighalo.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bogdan saves from Ighalo!

Sakho. :haha:

Slipping again!

[Niall_Quinn]

:doh: Bad miss, should have been game over.

[Master Splinter]

He's been in the job a few weeks FFS. It's not even time to start making excuses for him. Rodgers made a horrible mess. Maybe Klopp can fix it, maybe not, but give the guy the chance to get his feet under the desk.

Klopp is your managerial version of Ozil. If he was a horrible cunt you disliked, you'd be criticising him for being outshone by Ranieri and Flores, who are showing everyone up this season.

[Master Splinter]

Sakho :haha:.

Liverpool fans genuinely think he's great.

Deschamps will play him over Koscielny at the Euros.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Sakho has been having his usual mare.

Watford should have put this game beyond reach by now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watson. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Klopp is your managerial version of Ozil. If he was a horrible cunt you disliked, you'd be criticising him for being outshone by Ranieri and Flores, who are showing everyone up this season.

I have always been right about Ozil and I'll be right about Klopp too. I can understand ups and downs when the underlying quality is there. Klopp fought Bayern and won, until they bought the team out from under him. He deserves credit for that. Plus he's not a stupid corporate cyborg. He deserves credit for that too. Sure, I like him. If his Liverpool side are playing like that come December 2016 it won't stop me criticising him though. As for Ozil, class the day he joined us, class today and he'll be class tomorrow. Different class in fact.

[Niall_Quinn]

England superstar Lallana off after another pub performance.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

We really should give Klopp the benefit of the doubt till he has had a chance to put his imprint on the victims.

He inherited a team with Henderson as club captain, after all. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

We really should give Klopp the benefit of the doubt till he has had a chance to put his imprint on the victims.

He inherited a team with Henderson as club captain, after all. :haha:

You mean the England superstar Henderson?

[Master Splinter]

As for Ozil, class the day he joined us, class today and he'll be class tomorrow. Different class in fact.

Apart from the many games he played timidly, made basic technical errors, passed like a drunk and generally played below par?

I just hate inconsistency in logic and hypocrisy. Which you certainly display at times. I'd expect more of you. Like I did of Ozil.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's the Premier League, you won't get afforded much time as a coach/manager.

Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola, Simeone and Wenger all in the same league would mean somebody would be sacked fairly quickly (if it turns out that way).

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ighalo!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 3-0 Liverpool, IGHALO!!!!!

Klopp. :haha:

:wave:

[Master Splinter]

IGHALOOOOOO!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Apart from the many games he played timidly, made basic technical errors, passed like a drunk and generally played below par?

I just hate inconsistency in logic and hypocrisy. Which you certainly display at times. I'd expect more of you. Like I did of Ozil.

Nah. Some people watched the games, others read media bullshit and believed it. He didn't start at the level he'd shown at Madrid but he was a mile away from the bullshit the media was vomiting up about him.

3-0 free header. Dear me. Sakho :haha:

[Kano]

Klopp :lol:

What a cunt

[Niall_Quinn]

It's the Premier League, you won't get afforded much time as a coach/manager.

Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola, Simeone and Wenger all in the same league would mean somebody would be sacked fairly quickly (if it turns out that way).

With the one smack in your face exception, the guy who has had so much time to do something that fans have grown old waiting.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

With the one smack in your face exception, the guy who has had so much time to do something that fans have grown old waiting.

The point being so long as Wenger is there, it's likely one of the others would be pushed out thus more likely they will get sacked.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Thank god.

My stream just changed to the cricket.

[Master Splinter]

Nah. Some people watched the games, others read media bullshit and believed it. He didn't start at the level he'd shown at Madrid but he was a mile away from the bullshit the media was vomiting up about him.



Yes, but what has the media got to do with my reasonable assessment of him not performing to the standard of which he is capable of on many, many occasions? There's a world of difference between click-bait trolling and an honest evaluation of a player by a fan who watches most games.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 3-0 Liverpool, FT!!!

:haha:

Oh dear.

[Niall_Quinn]

Thank god.

My stream just changed to the cricket.

And then died completely - Google's infamous corporate cock-sucking robot came calling.

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Ighalo :bow:

Watford :bow:

Sakho :haha:

Klopp :haha:

The Victims :haha:

[Master Splinter]

Liverpool :haha:.

Klopp :haha:.

N_Q the Klopp fangirl :haha:.

Bog Dan :haha:.

Sakho :haha:.

Stevie G :haha:.

Alan Hansen :haha:.

Phil Thomson :haha:.

Lily Savage :haha:.

Sonia :haha:.

[Globalgunner]

Rumours of Liverpools resurgence have been grossly overstated. Poor Klopp, on a hiding to nothing with this team.

[GP]

Who was it said it was Liverpool's title to lose?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Who was it said it was Liverpool's title to lose?

FY. :doh:

Poor Klopp for having this mess to deal with? He decided to go there. After the Chelsea and City results - it was all that he had immediately imprinted his image on the club, gegenpressing etc.

[Master Splinter]

Flores :bow:.

Ighalo :haha:.

With Welbz dead, Theo likely to die again and Alexis now a crock, it's time to put in some cheeky bids for Mahrez and Ighalo tbh.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I need to change my name again.

[Master Splinter]

I need to change my name again.

Flanagan had a couple of good games.

Although I'm thinking of using at as my Christmas name tbf.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Flanagan had a couple of good games.

Although I'm thinking of using at as my Christmas name tbf.

I pray for the day Flanagan gets back into this team.

[Master Splinter]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWrbDNtW4AM1zX_.jpg

:haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Only just seen this result.

Liverpool. :haha:

Nothing has changed really. Klopp's got a job on his hands.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes, but what has the media got to do with my reasonable assessment of him not performing to the standard of which he is capable of on many, many occasions? There's a wold of difference between click-bait trolling and an honest evaluation of a player by a fan who watches most games.

The media is where the "anonymous", "stealing a living", myths originated. Neither were ever true but repeat the lie enough times and some will accept it. Ozil - over 3 chances per game created since the day he arrived. That's why he was brought here and he's delivered.

Stats compared to the "Fabregas is God" (according to the media) season. Even in his first year, nothing at all wrong with Ozil's contribution.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2013/2014/mesut_özil/165/64/123/0/p|premier_league/2014/2015/mesut_özil/165/126/123/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/mesut_özil/165/165/123/0/p|premier_league/2014/2015/cesc_fàbregas/165/126/306/0/p#total_score/attack_score/possession_score/total_passes/successful_passes/pass_completion/assists/chances_created/goals_scored/total_shots/shot_accuracy/tackles_won/successful_take_ons_%/total_duels_%#90

I am making an honest evaluation. The media have only recently been forced to do the same because their position was becoming more ludicrous by the day. Now everybody goes from "Anonymous" Ozil to brilliant Ozil, as if by magic.

[Master Splinter]

Nothing has changed really. Klopp's got a job on his hands.

Klopp hugs players now though.

He shows pashun.

[Niall_Quinn]

I need to change my name again.

Told you a couple of seasons back, you'd be safe long term with "Sakho is Dross"

[Master Splinter]

The media is where the "anonymous", "stealing a living", myths originated. Neither were ever true but repeat the lie enough times and some will accept it. Ozil - over 3 chances per game created since the day he arrived. That's why he was brought here and he's delivered.

Stats compared to the "Fabregas is God" (according to the media) season. Even in his first year, nothing at all wrong with Ozil's contribution.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2013/2014/mesut_özil/165/64/123/0/p|premier_league/2014/2015/mesut_özil/165/126/123/0/p|premier_league/2015/2016/mesut_özil/165/165/123/0/p|premier_league/2014/2015/cesc_fàbregas/165/126/306/0/p#total_score/attack_score/possession_score/total_passes/successful_passes/pass_completion/assists/chances_created/goals_scored/total_shots/shot_accuracy/tackles_won/successful_take_ons_%/total_duels_%#90

I am making an honest evaluation. The media have only recently been forced to do the same because their position was becoming more ludicrous by the day. Now everybody goes from "Anonymous" Ozil to brilliant Ozil, as if by magic.

I don't care about the juvenile agendas of the media and the shit that comes out of braindead pundits' mouths.

I was merely using the fact that you glossed over his disappointing performances (while also criticising other players for much less) as an example of you being inconsistent and hypocritical at times.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't care about the juvenile agendas of the media and the shit that comes out of braindead pundits' mouths.

I was merely using the fact that you glossed over his disappointing performances (while also criticising other players for much less) as an example of you being inconsistent and hypocritical at times.

And why do you care about that, even if it was true?

[Master Splinter]

And why do you care about that, even if it was true?

Because as I said before I hate inconsistency in logic and hypocrisy. It should be beneath you. Which you should see as a compliment.

Anyway, stop being a hypocritical cunt and get back to providing your unbiased commentary.

[Xhaka Can’t]

He's been in the job a few weeks FFS. It's not even time to start making excuses for him. Rodgers made a horrible mess. Maybe Klopp can fix it, maybe not, but give the guy the chance to get his feet under the desk.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOFJSVQCEAAdX6t.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

Because as I said before I hate inconsistency in logic and hypocrisy. It should be beneath you. Which you should see as a compliment.

Anyway, stop being a hypocritical cunt and get back to providing your unbiased commentary.

Inconsistency and hypocrisy - in SPORT? If you don't have that how can you have fans?

All our players are better than those Manc shites - as fans we know that to be 100% true.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOFJSVQCEAAdX6t.jpg

You have to hand it to Moyes - somehow he landed the Utd job and earned millions of quid in the process. You have to be some sort of slick con artist to pull that off. Fair dues.

[GP]

His only qualification was that he happened to be Scottish.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I need to change my name again.

Have you considered going retro?

[Niall_Quinn]

His only qualification was that he happened to be Scottish.

So Prime Minister next then?

[fakeyank]

Just woke up to see Liverpools result.. I have been wrong about many things, but I couldnt have been 'wronger' about my opinion that they'll challenge for the league this season! :lol:

[Globalgunner]

FY the only football pundit paid nothing to be wrong most times

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No Motd2 on tonight, it is on tomorrow night with highlights of our game instead. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Swansea 0-0 'Ammers, FT.

A real stinker of a game. Swansea stay in the relegation zone. :rose:

Three 0-0's in a row for West Ham. :sleep:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Have you considered going retro?

Babel would probably play ahead of Firmino tbf.

[milla]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWrbDNtW4AM1zX_.jpg

:haha:


:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

MotD2 is on 20 minutes. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Keown and Phil Nevile in the studio.

:haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jonathan Pearce commentating. :sick:

[Kano]

Haha lol look at wot MOTD2 did with Star Wars.

Jesus.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

De Bruyne. :lol:

£55 million. Crazy.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Özil's duck. :scarf:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

De Brunya. :unsure:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We could have scored more but fuck it. Winning the big games in a tight finish is more likely to happen then us giving a good side a good beating.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

BFG's recovery position when supposedly exposed isn't talked about much.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Oh my goodness me, Giroud's challenge there...what the one where he won the ball?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Phil Neville is an idiot on the loose.

[Kano]

How did Silva play Phillip?

[Niall_Quinn]

BBC - Walcott's goal "totally against the run of play" :haha:

Sore losers.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mangala for £42 million, Porto are incredible.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No mention of Mesut. :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

How dare Arsenal look like legitimate title contenders.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bogdan. :haha:

Hot potato.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nice cameo of gypo diving though. Disgraceful stuff.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ighalo with a superb scuffer.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pure fluke by Toure - could have gone anywhere.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Klopp. :lol:

What a whiner.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Liverpool played yesterday, Neville.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Liverpool played yesterday, Neville.
Allegedly.

[Heisenberg]

Phil Neville was all over the place yesterday. He started off saying that it was disrespectful to managers to speculate so openly on their job and successors, but then criticised Swansea for not having sorted Gary Monk's successor before firing him :unsure:

[Ollie the Optimist]

He's been in the job a few weeks FFS. It's not even time to start making excuses for him. Rodgers made a horrible mess. Maybe Klopp can fix it, maybe not, but give the guy the chance to get his feet under the desk.

One thing though is that although Klopp could be seen to have been judged on a relatively short time at Liverpool, if you look at his last season at Dortmund he was struggling there too. This time last year they were in the relegation zone and Germany has a really easy league bar munich. Perhaps his flaws are coming out in a harder league. Over the last year of management by Klopp, he has been poor

[Kano]

As much as I want to laugh at Klopp through petty rivalry, that post is absolute nonsense.

I don't think it was a fluke winning back-to-back titles at Dortmund and reaching the CL Final. Something the team hadn't done in a decade. Dortmund finished 7th by the end of last year, qualified for the Europa League, got to a cup final and salvaged what was a desperate start. Wolfsburg also knocked out Utd a couple of weeks ago - doesn't say much about our league at the moment, especially when none of our teams stand a realistic chance of winning it.

[Marc Overmars]

Too early to say anything about Klopp, Brendan did leave a fairly average squad lacking in star quality. By the same token, it was a bit silly how it was thought he had reinvented Liverpool after the 2 notable wins over Chelsea and City.

He has the fans on side though and will do for a long time, so I guess that will buy him all the time he needs to get it right.

[Letters]

Of course the titles weren't a fluke, but it was then followed by 2 seasons where they were distant runners up and then last season where they were in the relegation zone as late as Valentine's Day. Yes, they got it together in the end but it was a poor season for them.

It's not fair to judge Klopp yet but some were acting like they were Champions Elect the moment he walked in the door.

[Kano]

Of course the titles weren't a fluke, but it was then followed by 2 seasons where they were distant runners up and then last season where they were in the relegation zone as late as Valentine's Day. Yes, they got it together in the end but it was a poor season for them.

It's not fair to judge Klopp yet but some were acting like they were Champions Elect the moment he walked in the door.

Wenger has never had to compete against a team all season at the same level as Bayern have been for the past 4/5 seasons but I think you'd view his efforts diffferently. Absolute nonsense to throw the accusation of 'distant runners up' against them when you all you are doing is basing it on stats, rather than looking at the details of how the league has panned out. It is like saying last night we were lucky to win because City had 20 shots against our 8 at goal, yet look beyond the figure and people will see most of their efforts were pretty tame. Your stance about Wenger gains credibility with explaination behind the facts, instead of looking at 2 trophies in ten seasons. Only a select few teams in the whole of Europe could have got close to Bayern in the league and what Klopp managed to do at Dortmund not just in the league but creating a team to be feared across Europe was an amazing feat, especially when you have your closest rivals tapping up and stealing your best players.

I hope he fails miserably at Liverpool but it's revisionist rubbish to dismiss what he achieved at Dortmund.

[Letters]

25 and 19 points isn't distant second?!

I'm not dismissing what he did at Dortmund but their last title was in 2012, some people were acting like as soon as he arrived they became the team to beat.

[Kano]

Again, just throwing stats out. Did you read my post? Do you know anything of what happened over those two seasons apart from what you've just seen on the internet?

You are dismissing what he did at Dortmund by continually referring to stats and nothing else. Yet the same is done for some of your arguments and you dismiss them. Works both ways.

[Letters]

You are dismissing what he did at Dortmund.
No, I'm not. Did you read my post?

And yes, I'm using the statistic of how many points Dortmund got compared with the champions to back up my assertion that they were a distant 2nd.
Pretty reasonable, no?

[Kano]

Nothing worse than selective quoting. For all the effort you put into fighting Wenger's recent history, it's pretty funny to see you do the same thing you accuse everyone else of doing and reducing the argument to surface level.

[Letters]

I selected a particular point I wanted to respond to :shrug:
I didn't take what you said out of context.

You obviously haven't understood my point so I suggest we leave it before we end up going round and round in boring circles.