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Munchies
25-12-2015, 10:08 AM
It's been a tricky fixture recently, but they're not on the best of runs.
0-2
:scarf:
Alpha
25-12-2015, 11:25 AM
Finally, we are no longer worried about some games as we used to be. Southampton is not an easy game but the maturity and confidence in the team will make it easier.
Head says: 1-2 but heart says 0-2.
But whatever the score in our favour I want Cech to keep a clean sheet to beat David James record as that will increase more confidence in our defence.
Marc Overmars
25-12-2015, 12:00 PM
Tricky game but with the form we're in we should be looking to rubber stamp the City win with another 3 points here. I don't think Southampton have won since early November.
1-2.
Xhaka Can’t
25-12-2015, 03:39 PM
1-5
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fakeyank
25-12-2015, 03:49 PM
0-0
Özil's Panoramic View
25-12-2015, 04:59 PM
Little bit our bogey team over on their patch. However, our attackers have started to put away a fair amount of the chances Ozil has long been serving up on a platter. Therefore, I fully expect us to waste little time picking off a Soton team, which have been looking like Championship material for a better part of the current season.
0-3. :scarf:
Munchies
26-12-2015, 10:08 AM
Probable line ups
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXJL29_WQAAhyrW.jpg
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 05:16 PM
With Leicester - Man City next, this is the must win of all must wins.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 05:18 PM
Yep, we could be sitting very pretty come New Year's Day.
But first, win tonight please. :pray:
Letters
26-12-2015, 05:41 PM
Could go top now :sick:
Maestro
26-12-2015, 05:52 PM
Can we handle going top ....and staying there??? Well we'll soon find out.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 06:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXLDuOwWYAI3czK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXLBH9lW8AAjEYF.png
Munchies
26-12-2015, 06:59 PM
As expected, COYG :scarf:
Any win will do.
A right kicking would be lovely.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 07:39 PM
Come on Arsenal :scarf:.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 07:42 PM
Come on Arsenal! :bow:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 07:45 PM
COME ON ARSENAL!!!
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 07:48 PM
Chance for Bif.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 07:50 PM
Why did BFG pull up going for the ball?
Maestro
26-12-2015, 07:59 PM
COYG let's pick it up
As said by others, any win any which way just win
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 07:59 PM
What a pass from Ramsey to Monreal!
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:00 PM
Giving Southampton too much space
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:02 PM
Monreal shot, bit tame.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:03 PM
Should be 1-0 up right there
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:04 PM
What a strike from Martina.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:04 PM
Shit. All to do now.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 08:04 PM
Another fluke. :doh:
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:04 PM
Fuck me that hurt
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:05 PM
That is no fluke, don't kid yourself
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:05 PM
Another fluke. :doh:
It was.
We always give no hopers like him a goal
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:06 PM
If we don't win tonight then last Monday is meaningless.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 08:06 PM
FFS
Come on Arsenal
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 08:06 PM
It was.
We always give no hopers like him a goal
He'll probably never play for them again.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:08 PM
COYG I'm backing you here boys
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:09 PM
Lucky boy Kos
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:09 PM
Sort it out Arsenal!
Letters
26-12-2015, 08:11 PM
If we don't win tonight then last Monday is meaningless.
No it isn't.
Munchies
26-12-2015, 08:11 PM
not watching the game, saw the goal, ffs
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:12 PM
Shite from Ward-Prowse.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 08:12 PM
Koscielny the thug :bow:.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:14 PM
Kos. :doh:
Oh dear.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:14 PM
FFS!
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:15 PM
We're really asking for a beating here
Horrendous defensive errors
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:16 PM
We look awful atm.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:17 PM
shit cross
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:18 PM
Hoddle likes Ozil being fouled :rolleyes:
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:18 PM
We've been very poor so far, a goal would be the tonic
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:19 PM
Long booked. Send him off!
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 08:19 PM
Nose bleed from being so high in the table it seems.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:20 PM
We desperately need a goal from somewhere. Southampton are very comfortable.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:21 PM
Shit corner
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:22 PM
fuck off long you cunt!
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:22 PM
Good run from Theo, tame shot.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:22 PM
weak from theo! FFS
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:23 PM
Put your foot through it Theo FFS
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:24 PM
Theo header, side netting.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:25 PM
On your own and header off target ffs
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:26 PM
Theo, scores a brilliant goal Monday, plays like a dickhead tonight.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:28 PM
Long. :haha:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:28 PM
Fucking hell. :ilt:
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:28 PM
Lads this is really poor, need a goal please
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:28 PM
this is terrible.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:29 PM
fuck are we winning the league playing like this.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:30 PM
Ozil fouled. nothing.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:31 PM
Fuck that half of football, it was shit.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:31 PM
They need a rocket at HT
COYG!!!!!!!
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:31 PM
1-0 HT. Fecking press merchants.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 08:33 PM
What a wasted opportunity this could turn out to be.
Sort it out Arsenal.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 08:34 PM
Southampton and Stoke are bogey grounds. The opposition doesn't need to do much to win and we just look lethargic and drunk.
That fucking fluke though.
Xhaka Can’t
26-12-2015, 08:36 PM
Can we handle going top ....and staying there??? Well we'll soon find out.
Looking like we'll not have to worry about it. Good performance by Southampton. They give us no time on the ball and the pressure is really disrupting our passing game.
Fantastic goal but we'll be alright in the return match because FY is going.
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Slacker
26-12-2015, 08:43 PM
As usual on his returns to Southampton, Theo has disappeared up his own arse. Too many players are having an off day. They can't carry on playing like this for another 45 minutes. I'm worried we are creating chances but don't look any where near converting them. Amazing what a freak goal can do.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:43 PM
Looking like we'll not have to worry about it. Good performance by Southampton. They give us no time on the ball and the pressure is really disrupting our passing game.
Fantastic goal but we'll be alright in the return match because FY is going.
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Will be a real shame if we can't capitalise here, but hey ho
By the time FY turns up hopefully we have a real buffer or it just doesn't matter anymore. Must always calculate and make allowance for the FY factor
fakeyank
26-12-2015, 08:44 PM
No urgency from the assholes. Per and Kos look uncomfortable against crap like Long.
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McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:45 PM
Come on Arsenal. :scarf:
Slacker
26-12-2015, 08:46 PM
No urgency from the assholes. Per and Kos look uncomfortable against crap like Long.
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Laughable but true. Davis looks like a worldbeater as well.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 08:46 PM
Right lads, time for the cognac anaesthetic
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:49 PM
Great start....
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:51 PM
Sort it out Kos!
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:52 PM
Fucking shit. Lucky.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:52 PM
Disallowed goal for Van Dijk.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:53 PM
Very very lucky
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:53 PM
Can't see why that was disallowed. :lol:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:55 PM
Awful.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:56 PM
FUCK
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:56 PM
GO FUCK YOURSELVES ARSENAL.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 08:57 PM
2-0 Long.
Horrendous from Theo.
Thierrymon
26-12-2015, 08:57 PM
:ilt:
The fuck is this referee doing?
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 08:58 PM
Fuck are we winning the league.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 08:58 PM
What a balls up.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 08:59 PM
Moss has been dreadful for both teams in fairness. But that one led to a goal.
We just ask for some basic competence.
selassie
26-12-2015, 08:59 PM
We've been downright horrible so far.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:00 PM
What a balls up.
We do it to ourselves.
beating City was a waste of time.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:01 PM
Ramsey the only one trying.
Thierrymon
26-12-2015, 09:02 PM
Now the players wake up. The thought of going top is apparently not enough.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 09:02 PM
We very rarely come from behind to win games, this one is done.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:02 PM
Ramsey shot, deflected. Easy for Stekelenburg.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:02 PM
The key now is to just get drunk fellows
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:03 PM
We very rarely come from behind to win games, this one is done.
Yeah, we may have got back to 1-1, but we're getting nothing from this at all.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:03 PM
Cannot allow this to fuck up my Christmas
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:03 PM
The key now is to just get drunk fellows
:beer:
Ernesto
26-12-2015, 09:04 PM
Robbie Savage must revel in our misfortunes
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:04 PM
Cannot allow this to fuck up my Christmas
It's the hope that kills.
Munchies
26-12-2015, 09:04 PM
:banghead:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Robbie Savage must revel in our misfortunes
The weird thing is they have mentioned the "trip" a few times since the second goal. fucking wally!
Slacker
26-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Get up you fucking pansy
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Bit of a shocker from Theo.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:06 PM
It's the hope that kills.
Still live in hope but not expectation
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:06 PM
Campbell off, Ox on.
Please don't be shit Ox.
Slacker
26-12-2015, 09:08 PM
Campbell off, Ox on.
Please don't be shit Ox.
A big ask...
Munchies
26-12-2015, 09:09 PM
It's the hope that kills.
*Sighs*
:(
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:09 PM
Clasie off, Romeu on.
Slacker
26-12-2015, 09:10 PM
Hold on. They kicked the ball out and they get a free kick?
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:10 PM
Fuck it
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:11 PM
3-0 Fonte. Fuck this.
selassie
26-12-2015, 09:11 PM
Wow.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:11 PM
Embarrassing performance
Simply no other way to describe this
fakeyank
26-12-2015, 09:11 PM
What a load of rubbish. This team will win the premier league? Lol
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Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 09:11 PM
Bogey fucking grounds.
No sense to the outcome. But it will be the same one.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:11 PM
Fuck off Wenger.
Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
26-12-2015, 09:12 PM
Never too late to ruin Christmas hey.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:13 PM
We're fucking weak. no backbone.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:13 PM
:haha::haha:
I really hope you're all having a drink
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 09:14 PM
I think Southampton had the worst form in the league.
Conceding loads and not scoring.
Then this happens. It was inevitable.
This league is just mental.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:14 PM
Never too late to ruin Christmas hey.
Not my Christmas
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:14 PM
Crap decision, but we've done fuck all.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 09:14 PM
Well beaten by a team that hasn't won in 6 weeks.
Nice work Arsenal.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:15 PM
:haha::haha:
I really hope you're all having a drink
What else is there to do? :cheers:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:16 PM
Well beaten by a team that hasn't won in 6 weeks.
Nice work Arsenal.
We are The Arsenal, anything is possible.
Collectively bad performance from all, even Cechs been shit so no point saving there
Ralpheroo72
26-12-2015, 09:18 PM
About as enjoyable as a mouthful of bong water. Wenger and Arsenal can fuck right off.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 09:18 PM
Was it even a corner?
We've been shit, but that's no excuse for a ref handing them two goals. At 1-0, there's still a chance. But Wenger is a cunt and Arsenal are the worst team ever again.
Shane Long has got one over Koscielny. Koscielny should cut himself. Or the cheating ref.
Munchies
26-12-2015, 09:19 PM
greasy kebab is numbing the pain from the 'collapse'
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:20 PM
Iwobi on to save us. :bow:
Theo hauled off.
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:20 PM
Making shit teams look good for the last ten years, we sure have it in us
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:22 PM
About as enjoyable as a mouthful of bong water. Wenger and Arsenal can fuck right off.
Hopefully you've had a toke on that bong tonight
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:22 PM
Making shit teams look good for the last ten years, we sure have it in us ������
:gp:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:24 PM
The replay for the 3rd goal :doh:
Maestro
26-12-2015, 09:24 PM
They're beating us with players who'd be happy to sit on our bench for modest wages. Look at our bench ....makes you wonder
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:25 PM
:haha: this is too much!
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:27 PM
Can we get a consolation? :popcorn:
RomfordPele
26-12-2015, 09:29 PM
Classic arsenal, classic wenger. Manager didn't turn up with a plan, and the players just didn't turn up period.
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:30 PM
Long hits the post.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:31 PM
We're shit.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:31 PM
Classic arsenal, classic wenger. Manager didn't turn up with a plan, and the players just didn't turn up period.
I agree!
fakeyank
26-12-2015, 09:32 PM
Ve vill vin BPL
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Munchies
26-12-2015, 09:33 PM
This is the only chance we have at the PL ffs :(
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:33 PM
We're terrible against Koeman sides.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:33 PM
so sad watching us tonight.
A Gunner
26-12-2015, 09:34 PM
0 - 4
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:34 PM
FUCK OF ALL OF YOU CUNTS
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:34 PM
4-0. Fucking hell.
selassie
26-12-2015, 09:34 PM
Our worst performance of the season by a mile, we really need to push on from this because it could be really damaging to our season.
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 09:35 PM
Only we can do a complete 360 in the space of 5 days.
Pathetic.
selassie
26-12-2015, 09:35 PM
Merts & Kos have been embarrassing tonight.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:35 PM
We deserve to win fuck all. Bunch of cunts the lot of em.
Munchies
26-12-2015, 09:35 PM
Just laugh lads
:haha:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:36 PM
Only we can do a complete 360 in the space of 5 days.
Pathetic.
:trophy:
:ilt:
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:36 PM
Just laugh lads
:haha:
I do then I cry then I laugh, then I cry again.
selassie
26-12-2015, 09:36 PM
Only we can do a complete 360 in the space of 5 days.
Pathetic.
It's why I don't trust this team and don't believe. We've not even been unlucky tonight, we could have lost by more.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:36 PM
TWATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McNamara That Ghost...
26-12-2015, 09:37 PM
At least the next game is only on Monday. :lol:
Utter shite.
Xhaka Can’t
26-12-2015, 09:37 PM
4get about this guys.
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Ralpheroo72
26-12-2015, 09:37 PM
Even with the shit league this year, Wenger will still fuck it up.
Munchies
26-12-2015, 09:38 PM
At least the next game is only on Monday. :lol:
Utter shite.
Bournemouth are on a huge confidence run at the moment
Marc Overmars
26-12-2015, 09:38 PM
It's why I don't trust this team and don't believe. We've not even been unlock tonight, we could have lost by more.
Yeah, I don't know anymore with this lot. Of course Southampton away is a tough fixture, but to go and get spanked after what we did against City? Ridiculous.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:39 PM
4get about this guys.
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We're terrible. We've flattered for so long now and we serve up that shit. Fuck it.
adzzzbatch
26-12-2015, 09:41 PM
Bournemouth are on a huge confidence run at the moment
I've got a free ticket Monday god help 'em if they play like that the cunts.
We're terrible. We've flattered for so long now and we serve up that shit. Fuck it.
Relegation minimum.
Power n Glory
26-12-2015, 09:43 PM
Predicted. Win against City and fail to capitalise on Leicester City's loss. I keep saying you can't pay attention to the big wins because the team has this sort of game in them. Woeful.
Master Splinter
26-12-2015, 09:47 PM
Predicted. Win against City and fail to capitalise on Leicester City's loss. I keep saying you can't pay attention to the big wins because the team has this sort of game in them. Woeful.
There's no pattern to anything anymore. You shouldn't read in to this anymore than you shouldn't read into the City win. It's not like we regularly get thrashed by a mid-table team. When was the last time it happened?
Predicted. Win against City and fail to capitalise on Leicester City's loss. I keep saying you can't pay attention to the big wins because the team has this sort of game in them. Woeful.
Completely agree. Dropping points against Southampton was no surprise at all - although this deserved spanking may not have been so easy to predict. How come we are the patsys for every fucking team that is woefully out of form? This can't be a coincidence. Our attitude was completely different to that against Olympiacos or Citeh - we looked disinteterested; lacking in focus and complacent. Our habit of turning this kind of performance in regularly has not, and will not go away, Which is why I don't believe we will win the league,
Power n Glory
26-12-2015, 09:59 PM
There's no pattern to anything anymore. You shouldn't read in to this anymore than you shouldn't read into the City win. It's not like we regularly get thrashed by a mid-table team. When was the last time it happened?
Aston Villa and Everton putting 3 past us a couple of seasons ago was embarrassing but this tops those.
But I'm not talking about the scoreline being predictable. It's the way we buckle when we have a chance to be league leaders. We're too unpredictable and you just don't know what team will show up. You're right about that. Which is why there is no point in getting over excited about City. Lessons aren't being learned.
Aston Villa and Everton putting 3 past us a couple of seasons ago was embarrassing but this tops those.
But I'm not talking about the scoreline being predictable. It's the way we buckle when we have a chance to be league leaders. We're too unpredictable and you just don't know what team will show up. You're right about that. Which is why there is no point in getting over excited about City. Lessons aren't being learned.
I thought of your observation re 'must win' games while watching tonight. And our inability to grasp opportunities like this is a failing that will not go away.
Xhaka Can’t
26-12-2015, 10:21 PM
We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
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Power n Glory
27-12-2015, 09:13 AM
I thought of your observation re 'must win' games while watching tonight. And our inability to grasp opportunities like this is a failing that will not go away.
It's the perfect example of what I've been talking about. I can't wrap my head around why we seem to have this problem with every Wenger team since moving from Highbury. It makes no sense. It's just impossible to measure the progress of this team or asses whether they've overcome that psychological hurdle.
Niall_Quinn
27-12-2015, 11:36 AM
It's the perfect example of what I've been talking about. I can't wrap my head around why we seem to have this problem with every Wenger team since moving from Highbury. It makes no sense. It's just impossible to measure the progress of this team or asses whether they've overcome that psychological hurdle.
Pampered players who have a socialist relationship with manager and our wet board of directors rather than a hierarchical position in a results machine. And it's not just us, player power has infected and rotted the whole league. The poor saps in the media see this as a competitive revival, the players see this as wow, I don't even have to turn up to make bank. When Ferguson retired the game of Paisley, Clough and Ramsey retired with him. It's not a team game at the top any more, it's a shop window for individuals. They play a couple of seasons, maybe bunging in an effort in the first year, coasting through the second while they focus on the more important matter of the contract renegotiation.
How disgusting was Theo Walcott yesterday? How much more can our lilly livered manager and club do for this kid before he commits to 90 minutes every week? A cracking goal against the gypos? Theo evidently thinks this buys him a free ride. No professional pride or sportsmen's ambition.
Too much money. The top teams can't afford to drop out of the top 4. There's too much commercial shit riding on it. To many huge pay packets to service. To many rivals sniffing around with unlimited bank balances.
The fans are consumers. They pay for admittance and after that they are owed nothing. They have no investment in the club beyond the cash transaction. Turn up if you want, cheer if you want, fuck off if you want because there's a queue of consumers behind you.
Some of the smaller clubs have figured all this out and have opted to play as a team. A team will wallop a collection of self-interested individuals any day. Our cosy little socialist club run by the players and serviced by the bean counters who are in it for the share price were annihilated on the pitch by a football team yesterday. Ty (the poster boy consumer fan) says so what? It happens. They'll still finish 10 points behind. Ty is cancer.
Power n Glory
27-12-2015, 02:03 PM
Pampered players who have a socialist relationship with manager and our wet board of directors rather than a hierarchical position in a results machine. And it's not just us, player power has infected and rotted the whole league. The poor saps in the media see this as a competitive revival, the players see this as wow, I don't even have to turn up to make bank. When Ferguson retired the game of Paisley, Clough and Ramsey retired with him. It's not a team game at the top any more, it's a shop window for individuals. They play a couple of seasons, maybe bunging in an effort in the first year, coasting through the second while they focus on the more important matter of the contract renegotiation.
How disgusting was Theo Walcott yesterday? How much more can our lilly livered manager and club do for this kid before he commits to 90 minutes every week? A cracking goal against the gypos? Theo evidently thinks this buys him a free ride. No professional pride or sportsmen's ambition.
Too much money. The top teams can't afford to drop out of the top 4. There's too much commercial shit riding on it. To many huge pay packets to service. To many rivals sniffing around with unlimited bank balances.
The fans are consumers. They pay for admittance and after that they are owed nothing. They have no investment in the club beyond the cash transaction. Turn up if you want, cheer if you want, fuck off if you want because there's a queue of consumers behind you.
Some of the smaller clubs have figured all this out and have opted to play as a team. A team will wallop a collection of self-interested individuals any day. Our cosy little socialist club run by the players and serviced by the bean counters who are in it for the share price were annihilated on the pitch by a football team yesterday. Ty (the poster boy consumer fan) says so what? It happens. They'll still finish 10 points behind. Ty is cancer.
I don't think we have pampered players at Arsenal. I just don't think we suffer from the same sort of problems we've seen at Chelsea, Utd or City. We don't have a culture where the manager gets sacked if the players fail to turn up, most of these players aren't on mega rich clubs most wanted list either. It goes far beyond one or two individuals as well because the whole team didn't turn up last night. But I wouldn't say it's a case of the players not caring. Most of these guys aren't used to winning and it makes no sense go get sloppy when it's the first time in years you could win the league. Why throw away great work from earlier in the season all of a sudden?
Niall_Quinn
27-12-2015, 02:26 PM
I don't think we have pampered players at Arsenal. I just don't think we suffer from the same sort of problems we've seen at Chelsea, Utd or City. We don't have a culture where the manager gets sacked if the players fail to turn up, most of these players aren't on mega rich clubs most wanted list either. It goes far beyond one or two individuals as well because the whole team didn't turn up last night. But I wouldn't say it's a case of the players not caring. Most of these guys aren't used to winning and it makes no sense go get sloppy when it's the first time in years you could win the league. Why throw away great work from earlier in the season all of a sudden?
The team is not motivated at heart. The manager is not 100% focused on sport and excellence. The club is a vehicle for something other than football. It's a broken vessel, not the only one by any means, as we see in chavland and gypoland and elsewhere. Priorities are misplaced, goals are confused, rewards are granted regardless. It's a fantasy world pretending to be something it's not.
It would be great for football if Leicester won the league. Might wake up the players who have "made it" and make them aware they need to be at the top of their game to stay at the top. Of course Leicester would then have made it and so the disease would set in. The chavs won their last title when nobody else showed up. What an awful collection of half grade players they are, as has been shown this season. Not even Maureen could motivate the cunts to do what they are privileged and paid to do. At Arsenal we're worse off. A board that doesn't even know anything about football, let alone care. A manager that splits his focus into a thousand different areas, probably because the executive can't be arsed. Players who know they can get away with results like the beating we just took. You'd think that after that 6-0 mauling we got against the chavs a couple of years back such a performance would never be possible at Arsenal again. But here we see it it again.
Listen to Ty on Arsenal Fan TV. He's such a reasonable chap, he really is. Always an excuse masquerading as a reason. He's telling us what's wrong with the club and its players, expressing it in gushing terms even. On average, he all but says, this result can be wiped away. Because on average we'll still achieve that greyness that brings so many financial rewards.
I said after the win against the gypos that the main test came in the next game. Not only did we fail the test, we failed it as comprehensively as it was possible to fail it. And I said, along with others who are apparently not "true supporters", that all the old signs were still evident because they are. It all points back to one man and the organisation that backs him to deliver something different to sporting achievement.
Wenger after this farce was a disgrace. Blaming the ref FFS. Was it the ref's job to send the extraordinarily well paid players out on that pitch to take the opportunity all but dished up on a plate. Their job was to be at least as competitive as an organisation with a fraction of our resources. Look what happened. A one-off? A blip? Or another example of what we have been seeing for years. And if you conclude, as you must, it is the latter, what's that guy still doing in his job? How can the reigning champion be sacked while our guy continues to dish this up? Where's the sense in it? What's the purpose of our club? He won't do anything in the transfer window to fix the problems either. It will be more excuses, all so reasonable, all so grey. But the cash will keep rolling in. And if nobody else turns up we might even be champions by default. What a disaster if that happens. It will give the wrong people a whole new lease of life to continue with the same old shit.
It honestly seems as though our players feel that they are good enough to get results automatically against so-called 'lesser teams'. And this complacency does not seem to change despite bitter experience. Our team's basic flaws persist.
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