This is a serious question, not a joke.

[dostoy]

If you could choose the Arsenal manager for next season, seeing that a lot of the major candidates for the job already have jobs or will have jobs, who would you choose out of Wenger, Pellegrini or Mourinho.

I know a lot of us hate Mourinho, but he is a good manager and he would instill belief which is something Wenger cannot do.

I would not go for Wenger, I would probably choose Pellegrini.

Who would you choose ?

[dostoy]

Brendan Rogers can be another of the choices.

I would still go for Pellegrini.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pretty rancid choice. Pellegrini because he's won a title. But our little rascals would wrap him around their fingers. Maureen would be no good even if he wasn't a scumbag because he'd end up strangling them. And Wenger isn't even an option. Oh wait...

[rodders]

Mourinho

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

There is no choice there

Mourinho is not well mentally and needs to be under psychiatric observation not put in the managerial spotlight

As NQ states Pellegrini is only there to not upset the precious players

[GP]

Not Mourinho. Not ever.

[dostoy]

Why not Mourinho Doug ?

I know that he is what he is, but look at the trophies he has won.

What about Brendan Rogers ?

[fakeyank]

I would take Wenger hundred times over Mourinho. I think him becoming an Arsenal manager is one of the only ways I'll stop supporting the club.

So between the three, its obviously Pellegrini.

[GP]

Why not Mourinho Doug ?


Because he's a cunt.

And Rodgers has proven himself not good enough.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It would be Wenger between the three, Wenger has ballsed up this season good and proper but on balance he is still better than van Gaal or Pellegrini.

It doesn't make his performance acceptable, it just puts into sharper leaf how terrible both of them are.

[Globalgunner]

Id take Pellegrini. We`d still make top 4 and would not play crap football anymore. The thing to remember is that Wenger also has a crap background team, ( I exclude Bould from this as i frankly feel he is as disgusted as most of us are about the current state of affairs but simply cant do anything about it working for Mr know-it-all). Getting rid of Wenger improves us in so many ways.

[Özim]

Mourinho, far better manager than the other two and proven and actually seems to apply tactics and motivate players, Wenger is 2nd rate and Pellegrini is a small time manager who can't manage a big club.

My choice woud be Simeone though if we could have anyone.

Quite honestly I'd have anyone of Wenger at the moment as long as they were honest and not patronising and sympathetic to the fans, cos let's be honest Wenger is a joke of a manager, wouldn't want him within 10 miles of the place once he's left in case he tries to tell the new manager how to do things.

How anyone would have Wenger in any capacity still here in any is beyond me, surely people are sick of listening to his BS ever single week, to not have to hear his boring nonsense about belief and mental strength ever again will be a godsend.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Did a great job of motivating the Chelsea players this season

Short term Mourinho can spend people's money and succeed off a philosophy that the less my team has the ball the less mistakes it will make.

But as was seen at both Real Madrid and Chelsea, when his teams get outplayed he will invariably shift the blame from his one dimensional tactics and bully and insult others, until he's being let go simply because he becomes unbearable to deal with.

[Özim]

Did a great job of motivating the Chelsea players this season

Short term Mourinho can spend people's money and succeed off a philosophy that the less my team has the ball the less mistakes it will make.

But as was seen at both Real Madrid and Chelsea, when his teams get outplayed he will invariably shift the blame from his one dimensional tactics and bully and insult others, until he's being let go simply because he becomes unbearable to deal with.

Most managers have bad seasons, it happens, fact is his record speak for itself, it's better than the other two by a country mile.

Some managers are unbearable, rather unbearable and interesting than unbearable and dull as we have now though tbh.

We've got football's Mr BS, a man that doesn't relate or give toss about fans, a man so stubborn he make a mule look easy to train and man that has turned this club into a laughing stock and somehow that's bearable, I don't get it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Any manager better than Wenger?

It's that attitude that sees United being saddled with Moyes and Real Madrid with Rafa Benitez

Wenger is not taking us forward and I think we all accept that, that won't change but would be absurd to rush things and end up with someone mediocre out of spite. Should Wenger have been replaced long ago, probably yes but that's the situation we are in.
There are managers who I feel could come in and do a better job but it'd have to be a process that we would have to take time on.
Low would be my no1 choice but the downside is that he doesn't have a distinguished club managerial career. But I think he single handedly sculpted that German side.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Most managers have bad seasons, it happens, fact is his record speak for itself, it's better than the other two by a country mile.

Some managers are unbearable, rather unbearable and interesting than unbearable and dull as we have now though tbh.

We've got football's Mr BS, a man that doesn't relate or give toss about fans, a man so stubborn he make a mule look easy to train and man that has turned this club into a laughing stock and somehow that's bearable, I don't get it.

It's not bearable but it's more bearable than having a self destructive sociopath who could potentially so far more damage to the club and its reputation than Wenger could dream of.

[Marc Overmars]

I think Mourinho has offended our fanbase too much to be considered an option. Regardless of tactics and everything else he'd bring, I just don't think he's worth the hassle. Even in these hypothetical scenarios he's a non-starter.

I don't think Pellegrini is that great but he'd probably make us more cohesive as an attacking unit and wouldn't persist with the ramshackle nature of some of our players. So him just because I'm sick of Wenger failing to make any difference.

[Özim]

Any manager better than Wenger?

It's that attitude that sees United being saddled with Moyes and Real Madrid with Rafa Benitez

Wenger is not taking us forward and I think we all accept that, that won't change but would be absurd to rush things and end up with someone mediocre out of spite. Should Wenger have been replaced long ago, probably yes but that's the situation we are in.
There are managers who I feel could come in and do a better job but it'd have to be a process that we would have to take time on.
Low would be my no1 choice but the downside is that he doesn't have a distinguished club managerial career. But I think he single handedly sculpted that German side.

Noone compares to Simeone for me, what's he's achieved with Athletico is nothing short of miraculous given the competition, Low is not bad.

As for Wenger, from a fn point of view he's a terrible manager and the sooner we replace him the better, as I said it would be great no to have to hear his boring nonsense every week and to have someone who's actually honest and isn't afraid to criticise his team when the time is right.

[Özim]

It's not bearable but it's more bearable than having a self destructive sociopath who could potentially so far more damage to the club and its reputation than Wenger could dream of.

Damage, I think you're exagerrating he's done no damage to Real or Chelsea, Wenger on the other hand well the evidence is there, a losers mentality ingrained from top to bottom, overpaid wannabee's everywhere you look, injuries left right and centre, an attack that can't score, a defence that can't defend, stockpiling CM so much so half of them have to go on the wing.......ths list is endless.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I like the style of play under Simeone even less than I do Mourinho

I like Lows Germany that combination of mental toughness and attacking flair

Think how dangerous they'd be if Germany actually had a proper out and out striker

[Özim]

I think Mourinho has offended our fanbase too much to be considered an option for us. Regardless of tactics and everything else he'd bring, I just don't think he's worth the hassle. Even in these hypothetical scenarios he's a non-starter.

I don't think Pellegrini is that great but he'd probably make us a more cohesive as an attacking unit and wouldn't persist with the ramshackle nature of some of our players. So him just because I'm sick of Wenger failing to make any difference.

His comment about Wenger being under no pressure and being allowed to play kids and not win as spot on, as was his specialist in failure comment based on the last 10 years.

He's contraversial, no question but that's part of the act, he's up front about his criticism at least, Wenger just has sly digs to make excuses for his team.

I agree he couldn't come here though, but out of the 3 he'd be my choice.

[Özim]

I like the style of play under Simeone even less than I do Mourinho

I like Lows Germany that combination of mental toughness and attacking flair

Think how dangerous they'd be if Germany actually had a proper out and out striker

Don't rate Low that highly he's had arguably the most talented group of players with Spain since he's been in charge and yet has only managed one success.

[Power n Glory]

I was about to say Pellegrini. He was decent with Villareal and I don't think he's able to handle the egos at City. But really and truly, it would have to be Mourinho. I was about to say he doesn't suit our style but I think with the current players we have he may be able to get something out them playing counter attack/quick transitions.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Damage, I think you're exagerrating he's done no damage to Real or Chelsea, Wenger on the other hand well the evidence is there, a losers mentality ingrained from top to bottom, overpaid wannabee's everywhere you look, injuries left right and centre, an attack that can't score, a defence that can't defend, stockpiling CM so much so half of them have to go on the wing.......ths list is endless.

I think Real Madrid were desperate to get rid of Mourinho because he was sullying their reputation with his behaviour towards officials and managers.
Chelsea he left in dead stuck because he cares more about his ego than addressing the problems with the team.

What actual damage has Wenger done, whatever he does between now and the time he leaves the club is in a far stronger position than it was when he joined, no he hasn't pushed us on, yes he has persisted with non performing players. But personal frustration aside can you really say you fear for this clubs future, not competing for the big trophies is unacceptable but all it means is that the baton of progress needs to be handed on to someone else.

I think he should go, but the idea that he's some cancer on the club rather than someone who has been allowed to live on past achievements for too long is absurd.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Don't rate Low that highly he's had arguably the most talented group of players with Spain since he's been in charge and yet has only managed one success.

With who?

Low has been coach since 2006, an era that was dominated by Spain up until the last World Cup and always reached the business ends of tournaments even with a rather average team like he had in Euro 2008

[Özim]

I think Real Madrid were desperate to get rid of Mourinho because he was sullying their reputation with his behaviour towards officials and managers.
Chelsea he left in dead stuck because he cares more about his ego than addressing the problems with the team.

What actual damage has Wenger done, whatever he does between now and the time he leaves the club is in a far stronger position than it was when he joined, no he hasn't pushed us on, yes he has persisted with non performing players. But personal frustration aside can you really say you fear for this clubs future, not competing for the big trophies is unacceptable but all it means is that the baton of progress needs to be handed on to someone else.

I think he should go, but the idea that he's some cancer on the club rather than someone who has been allowed to live on past achievements for too long is absurd.

Yes I fear for the clubs' future in a sense that he's made losing and coming 3rd/4th acceptable, the owners are now more than happy with this and there's no pressure to do better, so yes he's done a huge amount of damage both to our mentality, made us look like a bunch of jokers and made sure that most of the time the best players don't really want to sign for us.

[Özim]

With who?

Low has been coach since 2006, an era that was dominated by Spain up until the last World Cup and always reached the business ends of tournaments even with a rather average team like he had in Euro 2008

Germany's squad in that time has been more than a match for Spain quality wise to be honest, it's just that Spain had a better manager in charge.

Klinsman got them to a semi final with a weaker team than he ever had which tells you all you need to know.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Germany's squad in that time has been more than a match for Spain quality wise to be honest, it's just that Spain had a better manager in charge.

Klinsman got them to a semi final with a very average team which tells you all you need to know.

You're talking bollocks I'm afraid, Germany's squad has very much been in the making the last few years but with Xavi and Iniesta, Spain had the best two midfielders of their generation.

Plus was Muller better than David Villa?

[Özim]

You're talking bollocks I'm afraid, Germany's squad has very much been in the making the last few years but with Xavi and Iniesta, Spain had the best two midfielders of their generation.

Plus was Muller better than David Villa?

They've had a strong squad for years, Klinsmann started the improvement with his semi-final in the World, ever since then they've been improving in quality, he's had opportunities to win more and should have IMO, irrespective of Spain, Del Bosque may well have done.

Ozil first appeared before the 2010 world cup, that's one of many in that group, he's had strong squad for years and not done the most he can with it, Spain were obviously top notch, but German's squad has been more than a match for them in the last 6 years at least.

I watched all those tournaments and felt Germany should have done better in a number of them, they just didn't turn up in some of the bigger matches.

At the end of the day Spain have had a top top manager and that's the big difference, Low has no pedigree at all, he got the job due to the fact he was Klinsmann's assistant, he'd achieved nothing at club level, unlike Del Bosque.

Anyway your criticisms of Simeone are unfair, with his limited budget he's worked wonders, his team work hard, are very organised and he's got an eye for talent too, the fact theu've kept up with Real and Barca every season is unbelievable, if you want sh*t football just see what we put out every week, it's a lot worse than the stuff Athletico play.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Spain won Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 because they were the best team, and they peaked by 2012

Low was Klinnsmans assistant in the 2006 World Cup and it was widely known that it was Low who was the brains of the operation and actually worked with the German football federation to invest in developing players through the academy system which would then get picked by the clubs to use in their youth teams.

The world cup in Brazil how many players in that squad were 30 or more?, take away Mertesacker, Lahm and Klose and you'd struggle to find one. The side that won were an incredibly young side that had been shaped by Low and German football for some time.

[Özim]

Spain won Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 because they were the best team, and they peaked by 2012

Low was Klinnsmans assistant in the 2006 World Cup and it was widely known that it was Low who was the brains of the operation and actually worked with the German football federation to invest in developing players through the academy system which would then get picked by the clubs to use in their youth teams.

The world cup in Brazil how many players in that squad were 30 or more?, take away Mertesacker, Lahm and Klose and you'd struggle to find one. The side that won were an incredibly young side that had been shaped by Low and German football for some time.

We're clearly not going to agree on this, but my take on it is I'm not a big fan, he's got no club pedigree at all and for me hasn't done as well as he could have at International level with the resources he's had.

Spain were outstanding in 2008 but in 2010 they very much laboured to the cup, Germany IMO had at least a better or a slightly better team but ultimately lost in the semi's to Spain, I felt they could have maybe won that one.

Klinsman was the manager in 2006 and ultimately the manager is the one that gets the credit because he's the most important of the non playing staff, so I don't see how you can say Low was the brains, if he had been he'd have been manager at the time not Klinsman.

[Niall_Quinn]

Low is not on the list guys. Just saying.

[Kano]

I think Real Madrid were desperate to get rid of Mourinho because he was sullying their reputation with his behaviour towards officials and managers.
Chelsea he left in dead stuck because he cares more about his ego than addressing the problems with the team.

What actual damage has Wenger done, whatever he does between now and the time he leaves the club is in a far stronger position than it was when he joined, no he hasn't pushed us on, yes he has persisted with non performing players. But personal frustration aside can you really say you fear for this clubs future, not competing for the big trophies is unacceptable but all it means is that the baton of progress needs to be handed on to someone else.

I think he should go, but the idea that he's some cancer on the club rather than someone who has been allowed to live on past achievements for too long is absurd.
There is also the possibility that we go through the phase Man Utd are the moment, or one relevant to our current position as a club. Same thing happened at Kyiv after Labonovskyi left in the early 00's.

[Power n Glory]

Probably best to avoid International managers. Being able to cherry pick the best players in the country and have all of them arrive all motivated to play is different from having to pick players up from a form slump.

Low seems decent and I considered him once but it's a risky transition. He's been managing Germany for nearly 10 years now. He hasn't had to deal with transfer windows, motivating an underperforming team and the day to day stuff.

[Niall_Quinn]

A complete break from Wenger's philosophy, methods and legacy is required.

This isn't like the Utd situation at all, not from a fan's point of view at least. At Utd they wanted to see more of the same from the new guy. Do we want to see any of the shit that has been happening at the club over the last decade? Hardly.

We're still surfing past glories with the media insisting we play attractive, attacking football. Who knows what they have been watching. Our football is slow, negative, repetitive shite and has been that way for years - bar the odd game or, of late, partial game where the opponent suits us perfectly, doesn't try too hard and Wenger's mumbo jumbo has a chance to unfold in ideal circumstances.

Our youth policy is shot to shit. We have a whole locker room full of garbage to clear out, with a few gems hidden under the rubbish pile. We don't want continuity in the shitty transfer policy. We don't need continuity in the shitty favouritism that allows players like Walcott to coast through a career. Everything Wenger needs to be brushed away. We need a manager who can do that.

A Moyes style replacement, a steady Eddie, is out of the question anyway. We need somebody ambitious, dynamic and with his own explicit ideas on how to move this club up a level and deliver results. It will be almost impossible to find somebody with less ambition than Wenger, almost impossible to find somebody who is as tired and worn out and lacking a trace of dynamism, impossible to find somebody less capable of moving this club up in terms of football as opposed to the holy balance sheet.

Stick a few names in a hat, pick one out, we'll be better off. Mind you, the owners might not be better off and I guess that's where the real issue lies.

[Power n Glory]

A complete break from Wenger's philosophy, methods and legacy is required.

This isn't like the Utd situation at all, not from a fan's point of view at least. At Utd they wanted to see more of the same from the new guy. Do we want to see any of the shit that has been happening at the club over the last decade? Hardly.

We're still surfing past glories with the media insisting we play attractive, attacking football. Who knows what they have been watching. Our football is slow, negative, repetitive shite and has been that way for years - bar the odd game or, of late, partial game where the opponent suits us perfectly, doesn't try too hard and Wenger's mumbo jumbo has a chance to unfold in ideal circumstances.

Our youth policy is shot to shit. We have a whole locker room full of garbage to clear out, with a few gems hidden under the rubbish pile. We don't want continuity in the shitty transfer policy. We don't need continuity in the shitty favouritism that allows players like Walcott to coast through a career. Everything Wenger needs to be brushed away. We need a manager who can do that.

A Moyes style replacement, a steady Eddie, is out of the question anyway. We need somebody ambitious, dynamic and with his own explicit ideas on how to move this club up a level and deliver results. It will be almost impossible to find somebody with less ambition than Wenger, almost impossible to find somebody who is as tired and worn out and lacking a trace of dynamism, impossible to find somebody less capable of moving this club up in terms of football as opposed to the holy balance sheet.

Stick a few names in a hat, pick one out, we'll be better off. Mind you, the owners might not be better off and I guess that's where the real issue lies.

But no Mourinho? :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

But no Mourinho? :lol:

No, because he's an enemy of the club and an enemy of football. As a manager, no problem, he'd kill it here. For a while at least. But as a person, inconceivable.

[selassie]

Mourinho is a horrible man but he'd be able to deliver us a title with this current bunch.

[Kano]

Mourinho is a horrible man but he'd be able to deliver us a title with this current bunch.

That man becoming our manager would be one of the few things that could make me stop watching Arsenal. Thankfully it will never happen.

[Xhaka Can’t]

If Mourinho became our Manager, I would not watch Arsenal or even take an interest in our results.

I'd be out for the duration - which luckily would be a max of two seasons.

[Özim]

That man becoming our manager would be one of the few things that could make me stop watching Arsenal. Thankfully it will never happen.

Surprised Wenger hasn't managed it then tbh, been taking the p*ss out of the fans for a decade now.

[Kano]

Surprised Wenger hasn't managed it then tbh, been taking the p*ss out of the fans for a decade now.
Yeah bottle bank pound shop.

[Power n Glory]

Surprised Wenger hasn't managed it then tbh, been taking the p*ss out of the fans for a decade now.

If he's not gone by next season I think this will be my last season.

[IBK]

Good OP. Food for thought indeed.

Mourinho - absolutely not - could not abide that man as our manager even if the alternative is slipping down the league.

The other two - interesting, because logic says that Wenger would be likely to fare better than Pellegrini because our team is his team, and therefore he should understand his own players and their strengths better than an outsider. But my true gut feel is that I have come to the point where almost literally anything is more attractive than the endless groundhog day that we have experienced at Arsenal for years under Wenger - and at the end of the day the standard that Pellegrini would have to achieve is only 4th place in the league. So yes - I would choose to see what Pellegrini could do with our squad of players - mostly in the hope that with any degree of tactical acumen he could get more out of them than Wenger.

[Maestro]

struggling with the "not a joke" bit of this thread

[dostoy]

Does nobody want Brendan Rogers ?

Low is a interesting contender, but would he leave the German national team to come to Arsenal ?

I still say Pellegrini, he would buy big players and do well.

Mourinho won't happen but he would do well here, at least in the short term.

[Kano]

Does nobody want Brendan Rogers ?
You have to ask?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm in full meltdown.

Time for Mourinho.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm in full meltdown.

Time for Mourinho.

Just because the manager has no shame doesn't mean you have to lose your dignity.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

My dignity has long since gone. After I predicted us to win the league.

What was I thinking? :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I'm in full meltdown.

Time for Mourinho.

Sigh ......... I'm close to that point myself now.


Look what you've made me do Wenger. Having to beg for the devil to come.

[Kano]

Mourinho :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The thing is about him, I can't even say and I used to - well the football he'd bring would be awful to watch because it already is.

[Niall_Quinn]

The thing is about him, I can't even say and I used to - well the football he'd bring would be awful to watch because it already is.

True enough, he'd add solidity to our shit play.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Hopefully Pep or Klopp would be available to replace him when things inevitably go to shit in the third season.

[Kano]

The thing is about him, I can't even say and I used to - well the football he'd bring would be awful to watch because it already is.

I guess a relegation fight might but be something different to watch.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I guess a relegation fight might but be something different to watch.

The (other) race for 4th!

[Kano]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Wigan+Athletic+v+Bolton+Wanderers+Premier+eup9xfta 0Drl.jpg

[Niall_Quinn]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Wigan+Athletic+v+Bolton+Wanderers+Premier+eup9xfta 0Drl.jpg

Sack Wenger tonight, hire Coyle as stopgap until the end of the season and we are back in the title hunt. No kidding. Or just sack Wenger and hire nobody.

[adzzzbatch]

There's no one that could be a caretaker manager is there? All the coaching team are Wenger's yes men and I include Steve Bould in that.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Simeone for me.

These useless pussies need an angry shitkicker in charge of them.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Simeone for me.

These useless pussies need an angry shitkicker in charge of them.

Yeah this for me now. I'd always been slightly hesitant of him because of his style of football but fuck it ......... he'd turn our pansies into men and teach them the importance of winning. He wouldn't tolerate the half assesed efforts of our over paid primadonnas.

Still, it's just our luck to let Klopp, Pep and Ancelotti go. :rolleyes:

[Marc Overmars]

Time for Coyle tbh.

In all seriousness though, this team is so poorly coached it's unreal. It's not going to take a miracle worker to improve us, just a competent manager, of which there are plenty.

[Niall_Quinn]

Apparently the fans are calling for Wenger out, Rodgers in :doh:

He's the one guy who could do a worse job, the one guy who would make life even easier for our spoilt little darlings.

[dostoy]

Are we sure we don't want Mourinho ?

I'm sure he could win the PL title with Arsenal, what would happen after that though I don't know.

Wenger has got to go, surely the board are not blind, deaf and stupid.

[Kano]

Are we sure we don't want Mourinho ?

I'm sure he could win the PL title with Arsenal, what would happen after that though I don't know.

Wenger has got to go, surely the board are not blind, deaf and stupid.

the board have got their eyes and ears open, looking at the full seats and club shop sales every week.

One way to guarantee an empty stadium would be to get Mourinho in as manager. It would be the worst thing that could ever happen to our club.

[GP]

Are we sure we don't want Mourinho ?

100%

[Marc Overmars]

Do everything we can to entice Simeone.

He has the personality to stand toe to toe next year with Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Pochettino etc.

[Niall_Quinn]

Do everything we can to entice Simeone.

He has the personality to stand toe to toe next year with Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Pochettino etc.

Like having the board come out and say Arsene can stay as long as he wants and we hope that's a long, long time? I'm not sure that would fully convince him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mourinho is a an absolute shithead but Wenger is making it quite hard to keep justifying him staying - a lot of the argument I would have had against it sadly are being shorn away.

It's a moot point though because I am sure he will be with Man Utd.

[Kano]

Mourinho is a an absolute shithead but Wenger is making it quite hard to keep justifying him staying - a lot of the argument I would have had against it sadly are being shorn away.

It's a moot point though because I am sure he will be with Man Utd.

It's not just the football with Mourinho.

It's all the other drama and cheap, scummy comments after and inbetween games. The focus on his rancid personality throughout the season. Turning us into one of the most hated clubs in the country. Given a choice between never winning a trophy again and that piece of shit managing our club, I'd take the latter in a heart beat.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It's not just the football with Mourinho.

It's all the other drama and cheap, scummy comments after and inbetween games. The focus on his rancid personality throughout the season. Turning us into one of the most hated clubs in the country. Given a choice between never winning a trophy again and that piece of shit managing our club, I'd take the latter in a heart beat.

That is what he brings absolutely.

However being treated as an ongoing punchline and pilloried doesn't feel much more dignifying at the moment.

[Kano]

It doesn't and it feels really shitty right now but it anyone can make it worse, then it's that man.

[Özim]

the board have got their eyes and ears open, looking at the full seats and club shop sales every week.

One way to guarantee an empty stadium would be to get Mourinho in as manager. It would be the worst thing that could ever happen to our club.

Fans are fickle, a few wins and they'd turn up in their droves, winning teams always have stacks of supporters, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Yes people say they would stop supporting the club, that won't happen in the same way that fans don't stop turning up the shower of sh*t Wenger puts out.

[Kano]

Fans are fickle, a few wins and they'd turn up in their droves, winning teams always have stacks of supporters, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Yes people say they would stop supporting the club, that won't happen in the same way that fans don't stop turning up the shower of sh*t Wenger puts out.

You're right, I am kidding myself in that regard. Hoping that people would have more sense than to be part of that absolute cunts charade for the three years he'd stick around. Not that I'd be too aware of it as I'd definitely stop supporting the club during his cancerous tenure.

[Marc Overmars]

No doubt the majority of fans would disapprove of appointing Mourinho and rightly so but I think Zim is right when he says fans are fickle. United fans have mentioned plenty of times in the past they wouldn't accept Mourinho but now they can't wait for him to come because standards have dropped so low there. We are in a similar boat.

[selassie]

No doubt the majority of fans would disapprove of appointing Mourinho and rightly so but I think Zim is right when he says fans are fickle. United fans have mentioned plenty of times in the past they wouldn't accept Mourinho but now they can't wait for him to come because standards have dropped so low there. We are in a similar boat.

That's what is sad about the whole thing, we're now down at the level of United, we're not an elite club, we're not even an elite PL club. It wouldn't be so bad if we could put this all down to bad luck or having a ton of injuries, the issues are far deeper than that and we have a Manager who IMO doesn't believe he is doing anything wrong, he believes in his philosophy, in his system. He will carry on as is next season talking us up as potential champions but he won't change a thing.

As a football team we've gone so stale and the standards have dropped to an alarmingly low level, was anyone really that surprised we lost today?

This season is now a write off and it's not even about finishing above Spurs because we won't, it's about praying they don't win the league because it would be pretty close to unbearable if they did.

I've gone beyond the point of anger now, it's just resignation, knowing we will do enough to finish top 4 but not enough to put pressure on the clubs above us.

This season has been an absolute disaster, probably Wenger's worst in some ways.

[Niall_Quinn]

Personally I don't think there's anything else to be gained from hounding the manager now. One, he won't leave, two, he won't change. But it does sound like he's heard the message at least, even though he plainly doesn't agree with it and hasn't got to the stage yet where he acknowledges there is a serious problem at the club. Anyway, I can feel myself getting to the verge of hating the guy (as a manager) for not leaving and that could spill into hating him as a person, which would be crazy because I don't know him. But he's that infuriating. He wins this on sheer bloodymindedness and unwillingness to accept any responsibility for the state of the club.

And I think the club is in a very bad state. Terminal. Lots of cash, big stadium, part of the Unholy 5, strong squad, top 4, more cash pouring in. It doesn't sound like a terminal condition but I believe it is, because everything about this club is now about money. I don't think there's anything left in the club that relates to football. The football is just a front for the business. And a shabby one at that. So I think much more fire needs to be focused on the rotten cunt who has hijacked the club, and also the filthy sub-human slime waiting in the background for his turn at the teat. I thought it was interesting Jabba's mate told him to piss off last week, hitched his wagon to Everton and the club immediately cut its ticket prices and started leaving freebies on fans' seats over the weekend. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see them become much more active in the transfer market next season. Some investors have figured out you need the football, others think they can leech without paying attention to what goes on on the pitch.

It's Kroenke the Cunt & Co (and I do hate this bloke as a person because it's incredibly easy to figure out precisely what he is) that will keep Wenger here, so it's Kroenke the Cunt & Co that have to go. The fans need to start thinking how it might be possible to achieve that - whilst at the same time preventing Jabba sliming his way in. Quite a challenge, but that's the only way to put the club back on a football track and halt the accelerating decline. So much can be done if people have the stomach for it. Yes, this is only sport so let's not get carried away. And yes, this goes way beyond sport when it comes to scum like Kroenke - so let's not get squeamish either. The cunt has to go. Five years of him and his vermin spawn at the club, what the hell happens if this rat bastard gets 5 more years? And what happens after that if the gangster slithers in?

We say we won't have Maureen at the club, fair enough. But then why do we tolerate two creatures that are each 100 times worse than that loud mouth? If Arsenal couldn't survive Mourinho then be sure we can't survive Kroenke the Cunt and Jabba.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Do everything we can to entice Simeone.

He has the personality to stand toe to toe next year with Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Pochettino etc.

We are owned by a bloodsucking cunt that has no interest in winning.

We via Wenger are putting shitloads of money in his pocket and we are being treated with contempt when he can even be bothered to consider us.

No way we are going all out for anyone.

And the worst thing of all is that Kroenke is so far out of reach from us, we can't even cause him the discomfort of a fly you'd swat away.

[Marc Overmars]

Hard to disagree, sadly.

[Niall_Quinn]

We are owned by a bloodsucking cunt that has no interest in winning.

We via Wenger are putting shitloads of money in his pocket and we are being treated with contempt when he can even be bothered to consider us.

No way we are going all out for anyone.

And the worst thing of all is that Kroenke is so far out of reach from us, we can't even cause him the discomfort of a fly you'd swat away.

That's the thing with bloodsuckers who live on the energy of others. Get that share price heading the opposite way and he'll detach himself instinctively. As soon as his accountants give him the alert he'll be on that laptop flogging to the highest bidder. You don't remove this sort of parasite by chucking stuff at it or calling it bad names, you communicate with it in the only language it understands - asset value. Think of it as a rich man's Betfair. You have to send him a powerful enough signal to make him hit that cash out button. And at the same time let Jabba know in no uncertain terms he'll get the same treatment.

So no shirts, no programmes, no mini-kits at £99, nothing. It only takes a few percentage points shift to make big differences to margins.

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/stan-kroenke-i-didnt-buy-arsenal-stake-to-win-trophies-a3202046.html

Cunt.

[Thierrymon]

I definitely wouldn't pick Pellegrini. He is basically an even shitter Wenger. We do seem to have missed the boat on a number of managers though. Maybe Blanc? Hard to say how good he really is though when he is managing a team like PSG.

[GP]

It'll be Remi Garde

[Niall_Quinn]

It'll be Remi Garde

Or Diaby.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Either Thomas Tuchel, Roger Schmidt or Simeone.

In reality we should have gone for Klopp when he was available.

[tpyo]

This is a bad time for a manager switch, what's out there isn't good. I don't care what we _should_ do because what we'll actually do is keep Wenger for up to five more years and hopefully bag Pep/Klopp/The next bright thing when their clubs inevitably sack them for not winning the CL + the league or smth dumb like that.

[Kano]

The easiest and most obvious choice by Wenger, who let's face it will be the man who picks his successor, will be Bould. Whenever they may be.