Arsenal vs Ludogorets Razgrad UCL Wednesday 19th October KO: 19:45 GMT

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Two more sleeps to Cosmin Moti!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marc Overmars]

Taking the missus to this. We have a very mixed record with her in attendance, so I apologise in advance if we balls it up.

2-0.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

If we do it will be because we insist on continuing with that Colombian Failure in goal for Champions League games

Lucas Perez, Coquelin, Ox, Gibbs, Gabriel could all do with game time.

[Kano]

Didn't Ospina play a key part in securing our biggest point so far in the CL?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Didn't Ospina play a key part in securing our biggest point so far in the CL?

I don't think any of the saves he made were particularly spectacular or would have been beyond Cech to make, they were indicative of poor finishing from Cavani not really anything else.

One of the saves he made resulted from his usual poor ball distribution

[Kano]

Which reinforces the point, as he done what Cech could've in your eyes, so he's generally a good keeper. There's no requirement for spectacular saves, few keepers manage that only a weekly basis, but as long as you stop the shots, then job done. We've seen a few mistakes from Cech in the time he's been with us too.

Give me a choice between the two and I'd pick Cech for his experience but there isn't light years between the two.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The difference is that Cech is far less likely to make mistakes, be bullied from set pieces to put us in trouble with poor goal kicks and clearances

Every time Ospina has had a run in the side, every goal we have conceded you have to look and think at the very least he could have done better

[Kano]

Looking at the PSG goal alone shows you're being too harsh with that theory.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

ok i'll qualify my remark and say practically every goal.

[Kano]

Could you perhaps make it even more vague, just for the sake of clarity?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

or i could list every game he's played where we have conceded goals and a more competent goalkeeper would have done better

From January 11th to the end of the season in May 2015, Ospina was in goal for every league game

We conceded 12 goals in 18 games which was a pretty good record (but far more credit to our defence) but about 10 of those goals were preventable but for Ospina.

Both of Harry Kanes goals at White Hart Lane for example were Ospina's fault and his shocking punches often put the ball back into the danger area and created constant spurs pressure.


Punching too often, rashly coming out of goal, palming the ball into his own net....poor distribution on top of this made the job for our defence even more difficult and it is a testament to how well our defence performed that we conceded so few...because they were a clean up crew for his shortcomings.

When he plays for Colombia it's often the same story....plus i see him concede so many goals at his near post.

Sczesny is a muppet make no mistake, but the reason Ospina is the back up and not him is because of Szczesny's attitude not because Ospina is a better keeper.

Frankly if Cech isn't playing i'd much rather us play Emiliano Martinez

[Kano]

That's a tough one. You've only picked out two goals and robbed him of any credit for a good defence record. Hard to argue against such resolute evidence your honour.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I gave one example but if you want others

I could give you the example of the games against swansea and west brom where he helped the ball into the goal

The goal charlie austin scored against us at loftus road where his positioning was poor, his positioning was equally poor for the Ander Herrera goal in the 1-1 draw against United at Old Trafford

the goal where he pushed the ball back into the path of Glenn Murray against Crystal Palace

The goal Stephen Quinn headed in against us for Hull where he was statuesque

And those are just off the top of the head. I praise the defence because like I say they had to put out a lot of fires which his poor distribution, over punching and inability to claim caused.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Even against PSG he caused just as many problems as he solved, came out too rashly far too often and Cavani went round him only to find an empty net.

His lack of height meant that he had to be bailed out aerially, and his lucklustre distribution just invited PSG pressure onto us again.

[Kano]

I just looked at one of those, the Stephen Quinn goal, laughed and realised there's no point arguing against bias. Guess we all have it about some players, Arsenal or otherwise.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It's not bias, he reacted too slowly....it was a powerful header but wasn't travelling quick enough that he couldn't have got a hand to it. No it's not a massive goalkeeping error, but it's savable and like i said my assertion was that most of the goals we conceded with Ospina between the sticks i would argue that at the very least he could have done better with.

although in fairness, the reason i think Sczesny and Cech would have saved those is because they have longer arms and are five inches taller than the Colombian

Let's be rational though, we know how Stubborn Wenger is over players, he played him in goal for half a season and if he was in anyway convinced by Ospina he wouldn't have bought Petr Cech it's really as simple as that.

Ospina isn't good enough for Arsenal, not even as a backup

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Fecking hate Ludo.

[GP]

https://a3-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/25/0b21a9440c704dd8bd635fe704a0bf90/600x600.jpg

[Letters]

Fecking hate Ludo.

Harsh...

http://pachisi.vegard2.net/ludo_full_big.jpg

[fakeyank]

Going off the usual prediction and say 2-0 win. Dont want to overdo my good juju of 0-3 losses.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It will be a difficult game if Football's modern hero Cosmin Moti is in the starting line up for them

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Ospina, Gibbs, Koscielny, Mustafi, Bellerin, Coquelin, Cazorla, Ox, Ozil, Walcott, Sanchez

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Xhaka :rose:

Would have liked to have seen a few more squad players given a go tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenget didn't take long in buttering Ox up.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Though unless Wenger's stupidly moving the in-form Theo around, he'll be stuck on the left which is hardly his favoured position in the lineup.

[Kano]

Need to win this and no fuck ups, currently in pole position to win the group so good shout on the team.

[Master Splinter]

Come on Arsenal. :scarf:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

Ludogorets trying to camouflage.

[Goonermerree]

have we touched the ball yet?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

They're pressing us really well high. This won't be easy.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We've got to be prepared to use the long ball to circumvent their aggressive pressing.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alexis reminds Keown of Ian Rush. :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good ball in by Bellerin, nobody attacking the box.

[Gooner23]

Anyone got a decent stream?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo's cross. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Why pass it Theo, why?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Slow man Alexis.

[GP]

WHAT A GOAL!!

[Thierrymon]

Sanchez!! Class

[Master Splinter]

ALEXIS!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ALEXIS!!!!

:bow:

What a god.

[Maestro]

What a fucking goal

[Goonermerree]

You're all way ahead of me - what a goal

[LDG]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(

[Xhaka Can’t]

Henry and Bergkamp(esque) at the height of their powers.

Just beautiful.


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[The Emirates Gallactico]

Alexis reminds Keown of Ian Rush. :blink:

Well they both played in Italy.

[GP]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(

https://my.mixtape.moe/njspdy.mp4

[Goonermerree]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(

ran, stopped and floated it over 4 of em including the goalie

[Maestro]

ran, stopped and floated it over 4 of em including the goalie

Checked and floored one defender before all that, just a work of art

[LDG]

https://my.mixtape.moe/njspdy.mp4

:clap:

Woah!

That's awesome :scarf:

[Goonermerree]

http://www.ifeed2all.eu/type/football.html

I'm watching on this, not brilliant, but it will do

[Gooner23]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(

Check out Arsenalist, it has the goal already

[Xhaka Can’t]

Anyone got a decent stream?

Get Mobdro


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[Xhaka Can’t]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(

Got an android phone or tablet? If so get Mobdro


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[Xhaka Can’t]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(

Henry and Bergkamp would be proud.


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[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ospina saves.

Fraud.

[Maestro]

Why does Ospina dive backwards

[Niall_Quinn]

Can one describe?

No stream tonight :(
http://footystream.xyz/arsenal

[The Emirates Gallactico]

http://www.streamhd.eu/football/arsenal-vs-ludogorets-live-stream-601.php

Works for me.

[Goonermerree]

Somebody needs to get up with Sanchez when he goes on those runs and help him out. Twice he's been up on his own without support.

[Maestro]

Somebody needs to get up with Sanchez when he goes on those runs and help him out.

Theo should be the man for that, he has the pace to keep up

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Fecking hell. That was a bit ropey from our defence.

[Maestro]

Ludos having second thoughts about their approach and massing the ranks inside their own half

[Kano]

Mesut too relaxed with that shot.

[Goonermerree]

Theo should be the man for that, he has the pace to keep up

Aye he should

[Maestro]

Mesut too relaxed with that shot.

He's too nice sometimes, should play angry a bit more

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Özil shot blocked.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Ospina!!!

What a fraud.


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[Niall_Quinn]

That was beyond shit by Coquelin.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What the fuck was that, Ozil leads a decent breakaway then just opts to pass it backwards and tippedy tappedy around the centre circle for two minutes.

[GP]

Well in Ospina

[Maestro]

They're banking on that counter, we need to be careful and get back to basics defensively

[Thierrymon]

Ox :doh: That is awful.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ospina. :bow:

[Gooner23]

Get Mobdro


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Nice one, just downloaded it on my kindle fire and it works!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aye, shocking from Ox.

[Niall_Quinn]

This is poor. Very, very poor. Two glorious opportunities missed there and these opponents aren't mugs.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Time to book another visit to goals on sunday.

[Maestro]

Come on wake the fuck up Mesut

[adzzzbatch]

Really poor defending.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bellerin's turn to fuck it up. They're all half asleep.

[Maestro]

Our defence need reminding what their primary task is

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Should be 1-1.

Clowns.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

fooking hell, we really could be behind here.

[Goonermerree]

3 good stops from ospina

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Actually hit the post.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

3 good stops from ospina

But he's a fraud.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Nice one, just downloaded it on my kindle fire and it works!

A useful companion site. Our Boro match is on Sportsnet on Saturday.

http://www.canadasoccertv.ca


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[Kano]

But he's a fraud.

Any school yard keeper could've saved those.

[Maestro]

Fantastic from Coquelin there, brilliant play

[Xhaka Can’t]

3 good stops from ospina

Cech would have saved 4. :coffee:


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[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo shoots, saved.

[Maestro]

Any school yard keeper could've saved those.

Are we running an Ospina watch tonight

[Niall_Quinn]

Decent enough effort by Walnut I suppose.

[Goonermerree]

theo's either a metre short or not thinking before he shoots.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good clearance from Mustafi.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Are we running an Ospina watch tonight

And there has been way too much to watch.


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[Kano]

Are we running an Ospina watch tonight

I think it's to do with the chat near the start of the thread, but if not, it is now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Greatest Cafu in history.

[Maestro]

I think it's to do with the chat near the start of the thread, but if not, it is now.

I know that's why I asked, it's worth doing tbf. Separate myth from legend

[Xhaka Can’t]

I think it's to do with the chat near the start of the thread, but if not, it is now.

"Chat" is a word for it I guess.


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[The Emirates Gallactico]

What the hell was that from Ox?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What planet is Ox on?

[Xhaka Can’t]

What planet is Ox on?

Earth? :unsure:


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[adzzzbatch]

Strong positive start has faded into a bit of a bore.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ox. :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Walnutttttttttt


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[Thierrymon]

Walnut!!

[Maestro]

Theeeeeeooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Earth? :unsure:


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Well then what planet are we on?

[adzzzbatch]

What. A. Goal.

[LDG]

Awlful streams tonight...oh well, I'll just keep F5-ing.

[GP]

Take a bow!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

THEO!!!!!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

THEO!!!

[Xhaka Can’t]

Two incredible goals tonight.

Total dross in between though.


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[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo's 93rd goal for us I think. :popcorn:

[Gooner23]

Lovely strike

[LDG]

Damn it. I can't seeeeee :crying:

[Goonermerree]

shooting fro outside of the box, Won't go down very well.

[Goonermerree]

Damn it. I can't seeeeee :crying:

http://www.ifeed2all.eu/type/football.html

[Xhaka Can’t]

Well then what planet are we on?

Don't know about you, but I get asked that a lot.


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[Maestro]

Well then what planet are we on?

Earth calling Tapatalk, come in over!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

If Theo and Alexis can both bag 20 goals + each this season then we can do something.

[Goonermerree]

We're in the twilight zone, two nil up. Better not take our foot off the gas or this team will have us.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Ox trying too hard.

[GP]

Damn it. I can't seeeeee :crying:

https://my.mixtape.moe/eresin.mp4

[Xhaka Can’t]

If Theo and Alexis can both bag 20 goals + each this season then we can do something.

We'd have at least 40 goals!!!


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[Niall_Quinn]

Poxy lawyers are pretty active tonight.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Poxy lawyers are pretty active tonight.

Claims direct :bow:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Probably one of our worst performances this season, completely juxtaposed with two of the best goals we've scored in a long time.

[Kano]

Theo's 93rd goal for us I think. :popcorn:

Almost third highest scorer under Wenger.

[Kano]

What. A. Goal.

Cech would've scored that.

[LDG]

https://my.mixtape.moe/eresin.mp4

:o

Cheers :good:

[adzzzbatch]

All their keeper's fault we're winning :rolleyes:

[LDG]

Wife has the bake off on.

Skeletor in a blonde wig (not my missus I might add)

Have we scored another one yet?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Bake Off :lol:

Never understood the hype about that. It's boring af.

[LDG]

Bake Off :lol:

Never understood the hype about that. It's boring af.

:shrug:

Never watched it myself. Why is my question. Just why?

[Xhaka Can’t]

I tried watching it.

Pure shite.


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[The Emirates Gallactico]

:shrug:

Never watched it myself. Why is my question. Just why?

Middle Class people :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

I tried watching it.

Pure shite.


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I didn't even try.

[Kano]

Ox!

Game over

[Thierrymon]

Less than a minute into 2nd half and ox makes it 3-0

[GP]

OXTAIL!

[LDG]

:dance:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

OX!!!!

[Goonermerree]

Ox !!!!!!!!!build from that

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Take off Theo, Alexis and Ozil now!!

[LDG]

Fondant Fancies!

[Kano]

Take off Theo, Alexis and Ozil now!!

Wengnet has already been set.

Plus, remember Anderlecht?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Don't remember Cafu being that bad.

[LDG]

Wengnet has already been set.

Plus, remember Anderlecht?

It was the league cup last year where he started tinkering and making stupid selection choices.

Ox and Theo both got injured in five minutes.

We're only an injury away from Wenger losing all balance and resorting to Ramsey at left back.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Wengnet has already been set.

Plus, remember Anderlecht?

Lighting never strikes twice. :cold:

Anyway we don't have Monreal filling in as a temp CB this time.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Needed the first time ball Alexis.

[Thierrymon]

Ozil!!

[Kano]

Ozil!

4-0

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ÖZIL!!!!

:cloud9:

[LDG]

:scarf:

[Goonermerree]

A goal fest!!!!!

[adzzzbatch]

I had no idea that cazorla was playing :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cazorla off, Elneny on.

[Kano]

Going by his reaction alone Santi looked injured coming off.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Take off Theo, Alexis and Ozil now!!

:gp:


:coffee:

[Gooner23]

Ozils first touch for his goal was pretty dreamy

[Goonermerree]

We have Boro on Saturday and they were absolutely rubbish when I saw them on play last Sunday. We should win that...

[Maestro]

What have I missed, did Ospina score??

[Goonermerree]

What have I missed, did Ospina score??

Nearly!!

[LDG]

Going by his reaction alone Santi looked injured coming off.

http://talksport.com/sites/default/files/styles/just_scale/public/field/image/201605/aaronramsey.jpg?itok=w6sQsayG

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo off, Lucas Perez on. :bow:

[adzzzbatch]

Same scoreline against Middlesbrough please.

[Goonermerree]

Same scoreline against Middlesbrough please.

Crikey, I want at least 6 against them.

[Goonermerree]

Come on Perez, get a couple

[Kano]

http://talksport.com/sites/default/files/styles/just_scale/public/field/image/201605/aaronramsey.jpg?itok=w6sQsayG

Better keeper than Ospina.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

How the fuck wasn't that a pelanty? He just bundled Alexis over!

[Goonermerree]

How the fuck wasn't that a pelanty? He just bundled Alexis over!

Bloody refs!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alexis' chipped balls. :cloud9:

[LDG]

How the fuck wasn't that a pelanty? He just bundled Alexis over!

I make that a red card for xhaka

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Crikey, I want at least 6 against them.

Come on lads, let's not get greedy here.

I'll take a 1 - 0 of Alexis' arse as long as we get teh three points.

[Niall_Quinn]

So is the penalty rule now at the ref's discretion too?

This is a complete joke.

Anyway, at least it's 4-0. Missed all the goals since 1-0 because I ran out of whisky.

[Goonermerree]

Who coaches our corner kicks? Nobody by the looks of it, we've been useless at taking corners for years.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good run Lucas.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Who coaches our corner kicks? Nobody by the looks of it, we've been useless at taking corners for years.

I think you'll find we have scored a lot from corners over the last couple of seasons.

[GP]

I think you'll find we have scored a lot from corners over the last couple of seasons.

The winner against Burnley, for example.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alexis off, Iwobi on.

Alexis. :bow:

[Kano]

No-one in Europe can take a corner going by what we saw at the Euro's.

[Niall_Quinn]

Keown is soooooo wrong. No need to keep searching for more goals he says. Well in fact there is. When the goals are there you take them. Because it makes the crowd happy. Gives the players confidence. We're under no pressure here. Keown had forgotten what football is supposed to be about.

[Goonermerree]

A lot go astray, either not over first man or straight into the to the arms of the keep.

[Letters]

No-one in Europe can take a corner going by what we saw at the Euro's.

Constantly baffled how footballers can't take set pieces with any consistent accuracy.

[Niall_Quinn]

Another pen there. And a red I guess.

[Goonermerree]

I wonder why Xhaka's not playing tonight, he's going to get a nice rest.

[Niall_Quinn]

Constantly baffled how footballers can't take set pieces with any consistent accuracy.

Shooting and crossing usually needs a bit of action on the ball so it's not just a case of lobbing it. But these guys should definitely be good enough to deliver quality more times than not. Maybe they're not as good as they think they are. Except for Ozil. He's definitely that good.

[Goonermerree]

Ox struggling

[Niall_Quinn]

Hmmm. Perez is not exactly a speed merchant, is he?

[adzzzbatch]

Splendid stuff!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I wonder why Xhaka's not playing tonight, he's going to get a nice rest.

Would have thought he would have started given he's gonna miss three games as it is.

My only guess is that Wenger is pissed off with him.

[Goonermerree]

Hmmm. Perez is not exactly a speed merchant, is he?

I was hoping he'd do well to give us other options going forward.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's a very good goal. Superb by Perez.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ÖZIL!!!! TWO GOALS IN A GAME!!! :faint:

[Goonermerree]

Ozil!!!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

I was hoping he'd do well to give us other options going forward.

He looked okay for speed just now. Maybe he was up against Bellerin's cousin last time.

[GP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_dS-wEFvs&ab_channel=RabbiCartman

[Letters]

Shooting and crossing usually needs a bit of action on the ball so it's not just a case of lobbing it. But these guys should definitely be good enough to deliver quality more times than not. Maybe they're not as good as they think they are. Except for Ozil. He's definitely that good.

I can understand more when it's a shot or a cross, I still think they should be better than they often are but the ball can be moving, they can be under pressure from defenders. But a corner...the ball is stationary (or possibly stationery, never know which is which tbh). Surely they should be able to deliver a corner with some consistency.

[LDG]

Hmmm. Perez is not exactly a speed merchant, is he?

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/giroud.gif?w=620&h=348&crop=1

[Munchies]

GET IN111

[Goonermerree]

I can understand more when it's a shot or a cross, I still think they should be better than they often are but the ball can be moving, they can be under pressure from defenders. But a corner...the ball is stationary (or possibly stationery, never know which is which tbh). Surely they should be able to deliver a corner with some consistency.

At least get it over first man and away from the goalie.

[adzzzbatch]

Wow!

[GP]

HAT TRICK!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Seems to be an Ozil hattrick. Finally!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ÖZIL HAT-TRICK!! IT HAPPENED!!!!

[Maestro]

That's what you do to weak opposition, punish the bitches. Good stuff, let's have a couple more

[The Emirates Gallactico]

OZIL hattrick!!

[Goonermerree]

Hat trick for Ozil, I wish he'd lose the thumb sucking now

[GP]

Seems to be an Ozil hattrick. Finally!

Yeah but, do we need him?

:haha:

[LDG]

:o

You best give me a compilation of those GP :threaten:

[Globalgunner]

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/giroud.gif?w=620&h=348&crop=1

Irresistible man
Not so irresistible a striker.

[LDG]

Yeah but, do we need him?

:haha:

Nope. He's not world class.

And he's lazy.

[GP]

:o

You best give me a compilation of those GP :threaten:

https://streamable.com/14pi

https://my.mixtape.moe/dfrgln.mp4

https://streamable.com/rg63


:tiphat:

[Kano]

Yeah but, do we need him?

:haha:

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Bellerin :haha:

Why wasn't he in the Olympics?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Bellerin :haha:

Why wasn't he in the Olympics?

And he's not doped up either!

[LDG]

https://streamable.com/14pi

https://my.mixtape.moe/dfrgln.mp4

https://streamable.com/rg63


:tiphat:


Top man

[Niall_Quinn]

In some ways Ozil is a total genius with a football.

[Niall_Quinn]

FT 6-0

Wenger Out!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

FT 6-0

Wenger Out!

The one time you don't predict an Ozil hat trick :rolleyes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

6-0.

Bagelled. :bow:

Ludo. :lol:

Awlful Frustration.

[Goonermerree]

:clap:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Ludograts with 56% possession. :lol:

[LDG]

In some ways Ozil is a total genius with a football.

And in other ways, we just don't need him.

I'd happily get rid of him.

[Niall_Quinn]

The one time you don't predict an Ozil hat trick :rolleyes:

I'm a contrarian so figure it out.

[Master Splinter]

Finally, someone gets a good kicking.

Arsenal :bow:.

Ozil :bow:.

Wenget :bow:.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Mustafi speaks really good English. Better than some English players (*cough Rooney cough*).

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Taking every competition seriously this season. Lovely to see a rout and hope Santi's okay!

[Power n Glory]

Yeah but, do we need him?

:haha:

:doh: I'm sure a few of you dicks were saying he doesn't need to score goals as if that's not part of attacking midfielders game?

[Power n Glory]

Oh and sell Theo Walcott. He's just a sprinter and not a footballer. :doh:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

:doh: I'm sure a few of you dicks were saying he doesn't need to score goals as if that's not part of attacking midfielders game?

I said that wasn't Ozil's game specifically, by that I meant it seemed a bit churlish to pan him and say we should be getting rid of him for not getting enough goals when he had the highest assist rate in Europe (which is his primary function).

And i thought it was particularly harsh when so many of our other midfielders weren't chipping in with goals and weren't exactly contributing much else on the pitch.

But if he's making goals and scoring goals.....all the better.

[Power n Glory]

I said that wasn't Ozil's game specifically, by that I meant it seemed a bit churlish to pan him and say we should be getting rid of him for not getting enough goals when he had the highest assist rate in Europe (which is his primary function).

And i thought it was particularly harsh when so many of our other midfielders weren't chipping in with goals and weren't exactly contributing much else on the pitch.

But if he's making goals and scoring goals.....all the better.

This wasn’t specially for you, but going back on this, it’s good to see Ozil scoring more goals. Sometimes he epitomises the ‘tippy tappy’ style and can be quite passive. That’s what annoys me most and even after the Burnley game, you could see what I meant about his style of play against a stubborn defence. If he has a taste for goals, he’d be so well rounded and so much harder to stop. I’m yet to see the game and highlights but can’t get too carried away. I have no idea who we just played but regardless, it’s good to see we hammered them and hear that Wenger told the team not to ease off during half time. He’s often been accused of telling the team to slow it down but that wasn’t the case yesterday. As long as everyone keeps improving and adding that little extra, we’re in a good space.

[Niall_Quinn]

...and hear that Wenger told the team not to ease off during half time...

If that's true then it goes to show that miracles can happen.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

This wasn’t specially for you, but going back on this, it’s good to see Ozil scoring more goals. Sometimes he epitomises the ‘tippy tappy’ style and can be quite passive. That’s what annoys me most and even after the Burnley game, you could see what I meant about his style of play against a stubborn defence. If he has a taste for goals, he’d be so well rounded and so much harder to stop. I’m yet to see the game and highlights but can’t get too carried away. I have no idea who we just played but regardless, it’s good to see we hammered them and hear that Wenger told the team not to ease off during half time. He’s often been accused of telling the team to slow it down but that wasn’t the case yesterday. As long as everyone keeps improving and adding that little extra, we’re in a good space.

I agree to the extent that Ozil is going to be more effective in an open game like the one we played against Chelsea and arguably last night where whatever one says about the quality of the opposition it was actually refreshing to see a small side like that, that wanted to play football.

And I would agree that Ozil was guilty of what you have said last night in the first half, i was incredibly exasperated when he had the chance to lead a break and just inexplicably slowed down and passed the ball sideways which led to a two minute keep ball exhibition along the centre circle which impresses literally no-one. However i think the extent of his ability to pick a pass is useful even in games like Burnley where they quite understandably play ten men behind the ball, because he is able to see players make runs out of the corner of his eye and is able to find them with passes and open up space where before there was none.

Taking on the ball running at the defence and lashing home like he did for his first goal last night was quite uncharacteristic and i will always welcome any player getting more goals, and if that gives him confidence to take on chances more himself when he is in the best position so to do.....i'm all for it.

[Power n Glory]

If that's true then it goes to show that miracles can happen.


Here is the link.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/723166/Theo-Walcott-Arsenal-Arsene-Wenger-Champions-League-Ludogorets

I don't think Wenger gets on to the players enough about their performances. He's notorious for saying nothing at half time until the last few minutes when the team are due to step out again for the next half. I think he needs to speak more often to refocus the team.

[Power n Glory]

I agree to the extent that Ozil is going to be more effective in an open game like the one we played against Chelsea and arguably last night where whatever one says about the quality of the opposition it was actually refreshing to see a small side like that, that wanted to play football.

And I would agree that Ozil was guilty of what you have said last night in the first half, i was incredibly exasperated when he had the chance to lead a break and just inexplicably slowed down and passed the ball sideways which led to a two minute keep ball exhibition along the centre circle which impresses literally no-one. However i think the extent of his ability to pick a pass is useful even in games like Burnley where they quite understandably play ten men behind the ball, because he is able to see players make runs out of the corner of his eye and is able to find them with passes and open up space where before there was none.

Taking on the ball running at the defence and lashing home like he did for his first goal last night was quite uncharacteristic and i will always welcome any player getting more goals, and if that gives him confidence to take on chances more himself when he is in the best position so to do.....i'm all for it.

I really need to see the goals he scored. If he ran at the defence and smashed one in, I can't wait to see it. I've always thought he's capable of more because it's not as if he hasn't got a bit of pace or the ball control to be more aggressive with the ball and force the issue when we look flat.

I saw the goal Sanchez scored. Slight worried these guys are playing to put themselves in the shop window. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

That touch to kill the ball dead for his first goal. :cloud9:

I hope he continues to make these runs forward, we don't get enough of that from our midfielders.