Preston NE vs. Arsenal || 7/1/17 FA Cup

[GP]

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[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbz. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Giroud up front and Ramsey and Xhaka in the middle means this will be a plod.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Preston: Maxwell; Vermijl, Clarke, Huntington, Cunningham; Gallagher, Pearson, Johnson; McGeady, Robinson, Hugill.
Subs: Lindegaard, Spurr, Browne, Pringle, Horgan, Doyle, Makienok.

Spurr. :sick:

[Niall_Quinn]

And DaSilva is on the bench :bow:

Never thought we'd see him play. Maybe we still won't.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Merse predicted 2-1 Preston.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

[Goonermerree]

I'm looking forward to seeing Welbs playing again. Will he stay injury-free this time?

Come on Arsenal!!!

[Goonermerree]

A fairly strong team out as well. Anyone got a decent link for a stream?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shot on target from Bif. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Who lost the ball there?

[Power n Glory]

Xhaka losing the ball from deep almost cost us.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shocking from Ramsey.

[Power n Glory]

1 nil Preston.

[Goonermerree]

1 nil, damn.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 Preston. :doh:

[Goonermerree]

Defence cut like a knife.

[Power n Glory]

Ramsey ran right through and no idea what our defenders were doing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Strong start as usual. Lessons learned.

Farce.

[Goonermerree]

Well, they've had their fun, their moment in the sun, now it's time to show 'em who we are.:rolleyes:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger shakes his head. It's almost as if he thinks he's blameless in all this. A decade of head-shaking and it never dawns on him there's one common theme running through this unchanging mess.

[Power n Glory]

How long until we concede a penalty?

[AFC Leveller]

Again the players just aren't up for it. We are losing the ball as soon as Preston press us.

Could b one of those cup humiliations.

[Goonermerree]

It would be the humiliation of the round.

[Niall_Quinn]

Again the players just aren't up for it. We are losing the ball as soon as Preston press us.

Could b one of those cup humiliations.

Nah, we'll play for 20 minutes today I'd think. I'd hope.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

How long until we concede a penalty?

I honestly thought we were about to before the goal went in

[Power n Glory]

It's Xhaka and Ramsey. Piss poor. Haven't got a hold on the game from the midfield and bypassed with ease when attacked.

[Niall_Quinn]

Two hours of tippy tappy, but at least it ended in a tame shot this time.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's Xhaka and Ramsey. Piss poor. Haven't got a hold on the game from the midfield and bypassed with ease when attacked.

It only seems like a week ago when we saw exactly the same thing.

[RomfordPele]

We will get back into this, I think, but this shows again how poor wenger's signings have been.

Serious doubts over all three summer buys.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It's Xhaka and Ramsey. Piss poor. Haven't got a hold on the game from the midfield and bypassed with ease when attacked.

Problem is they are both quite literally undroppable at the moment

[Goonermerree]

That ball was out from them before it went out from us.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We will get back into this, I think, but this shows again how poor wenger's signings have been.

Serious doubts over all three summer buys.

I don't know I quite like watching Lucas Perez, he has some zip and industry he's the only one I've seen so far been prepared to drive forward.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why are we not playing 4-4-2 against this lot and going at them all out? Why the fuck do we approach every game, against every team, exactly the same way? Preston would have been up for it but still nervous at the start. But we've invited them into the game and given them a nice goal to calm the nerves. It's just pathetic.

[Power n Glory]

Hollywood Ramsey with a pointless long ball.

[Goonermerree]

Get Welbz on he show drive and ambition.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gabriel. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Get Welbz on he show drive and ambition.

Nah, 68th minute for him. Maybe.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jesus wept.

[Goonermerree]

Nah, 68th minute for him. Maybe.

Of course! They could easily have had a second then. Have we even had a shot on goal yet?

[RomfordPele]

I don't know I quite like watching Lucas Perez, he has some zip and industry he's the only one I've seen so far been prepared to drive forward.

Not sold on him, but he looks the brightest of the three. Xhaka, mustafi and Gabriel look appalling.

[Power n Glory]

Of course! They could easily have had a second then. Have we even had a shot on goal yet?

Counter attacks they run right through us.

[Power n Glory]

Should definitely be 2 nil.

[AFC Leveller]

Lol that was so close.

Why did I choose to watch this?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How isn't it 2-0? :haha:

[Goonermerree]

Should have been a second for them -again

[Niall_Quinn]

The directness of Preston's play, the simplicity, the traditional and conventional attacking game, it makes us look so lame by comparison. Does Wenger really feel players like Ox and Perez couldn't play like that? With a bit of directness?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Counter attacks they run right through us.

I can't make my mind up if it's laziness or ineptitude

[Niall_Quinn]

Bar a missed open goal we'd be 2 down now. This is embarrassing. We have zero defence.

[fakeyank]

Our team looking really up for it. What a cunt of a manager we have. When is he going to fuck off!!?!

[AFC Leveller]

Preston are running rings around us and look like scoring everytime they attack.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Useless from Ox.

[AFC Leveller]

Mustafi having a mare

[Goonermerree]

Is Ox actually on the field? I haven't heard his name mentioned

[AFC Leveller]

Can't remember seeing their keeper, is he even playing?

[Goonermerree]

I still think we'll win this, but we are useless at the moment and Preston are looking great.

[Niall_Quinn]

We've lost our heads. Can't make a simple pass.

[Munchies]

AFTV :popcorn:

[Goonermerree]

Can't remember seeing their keeper, is he even playing?

He's just having a cup of tea and a biscuit.

[Munchies]

We've lost our heads. Can't make a simple pass.

holy shit

you're back?!?!??

[Globalgunner]

I can't make my mind up if it's laziness or ineptitude

Simple answer. Its Wenger. Every manager in the world can see him coming a mile away. Same crap every time

[Niall_Quinn]

holy shit

you're back?!?!??

Yup. The admins begged me so I said yes.

[Goonermerree]

I'm actually finding myself willing Preston on they are so decisive in their attack and good to watch.

[Power n Glory]

holy shit

you're back?!?!??

Don't get excited. :lol: It's NQ. He hijacked Cripps name.

[Power n Glory]

Lucas trying to walk it into the net?

[AFC Leveller]

Ramsay shoot U cunt stop trying to dribble

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey you clown, hit it!

[Goonermerree]

This is abysmal, we have a fairly strong team out and still look rubbish against a team we should thrash. We used to cry out for him to take the cups seriously and play stronger teams, we've been beaten the last few times we've done so

[Power n Glory]

Lucas trying to walk it into the net?

Nope. It was Ramsey trying to walk it in.

[Niall_Quinn]

30 minutes Wenger has watched this, and done fuck all.

At least we had a bundle in their box that time. Our best pub moment.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Giroud clears it.

[Globalgunner]

Giroud! Muppet

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Simple answer. Its Wenger. Every manager in the world can see him coming a mile away. Same crap every time

Wenger is tactically naive and cant work a simple game plan but these are professional footballers also they aren't operated by remote control.

Wenger is terrible but at the same time these players need to look at themselves

[Goonermerree]

30 minutes Wenger has watched this, and done fuck all.

At least we had a bundle in their box that time. Our best pub moment.

He never changes a thing, we were 3 nil down at Everton a couple of seasons back before he brought on a sub, everyone could see we weren't going to score then it was too late.

[Niall_Quinn]

Very hard for Bif to fuck that up. Either shoot or play it across for the tap-in. But somehow he found a way to avoid both simple options.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Monreal clears near the line. :haha:

[Globalgunner]

We are a joke. Could be 3

[Goonermerree]

Preston should be 4 nil up by now. We will win, they will run out of steam, but it will be a shame for them, they are giving it a good go.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey heads it, Maxwell saves.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ho-hum, we survive again. Can we make Preston pay for all their misses?

[Niall_Quinn]

Was that our first effort on target?

YAY!!!! :cheer:

[RomfordPele]

How many goals would Preston need to score for wenger to resign?

[Power n Glory]

Wenger is tactically naive and cant work a simple game plan but these are professional footballers also they aren't operated by remote control.

Wenger is terrible but at the same time these players need to look at themselves

Agreed. It's not a tactical problem. It's piss poor performances from the midfield and CB's. Within 10 minutes of play we almost conceded because Xhaka was dispossessed.

[Goonermerree]

Was that our first effort on target?

YAY!!!! :cheer:

Yes, take the positives.:yippee:

[Niall_Quinn]

How many goals would Preston need to score for wenger to resign?

More than they are capable of scoring. He's already selecting his excuses from the long list.

[Goonermerree]

How many goals would Preston need to score for wenger to resign?

One hopefully!!!!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Don't see many arms in his face, apart from the one that was.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Was that our first effort on target?

YAY!!!! :cheer:

Third.

[Goonermerree]

More than they are capable of scoring. He's already selecting his excuses from the long list.

Oh, what was our starting excuse?

[Power n Glory]

Come half time we'll see how piss poor Wenger is tactically. He'll have a chance to change things around from then on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ref rules out Preston's second. Terrible keeping, pathetic. Because the keeper was so weak the ref blew. Otherwise, perfectly good goal. Shearer got 100 of those.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Elbow in the face, not a foul.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pen and a red surely?

No?

Oh well.

[Goonermerree]

It's ok, he was looking at the ball. We wouldn't get away with that.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

More elbows from Preston.

[Goonermerree]

Our defence is shot. Without Kos in there we look very vulnerable. With Kos in there we look only a bit vulnerable.

[Goonermerree]

I have blobs on the screen so can't see who is doing what, but Ox's name is never mentioned. Is he doing anything?

[Niall_Quinn]

We need many, many more sideways passes. Not enough so far.

[Munchies]

Don't get excited. :lol: It's NQ. He hijacked Cripps name.

:haha:

NQ is a lad!

[Munchies]

Why did Wenker play a rookie Right back with ramsey ahead of him? lol

[Goonermerree]

Cripps - who are yah? who are yah?

[Goonermerree]

Why did Wenker play a rookie Right back with ramsey ahead of him? lol

Cos Jenkinson is crap and needs to leave.

[fakeyank]

Can you guys imagine Wenger signing a contract extension? :sick:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 HT. Abysmal.

[Power n Glory]

Cos Jenkinson is crap and needs to leave.

I forgot about Jenkinson. His Arsenal career is dead.

[Goonermerree]

Can you guys imagine Wenger signing a contract extension? :sick:

Of course.

[Goonermerree]

I forgot about Jenkinson. His Arsenal career is dead.

He is on the bench.

[Niall_Quinn]

45 minutes of absolute shite from Wenger and his lambs.

Preston half decent though. Limited but ambitious and positive. They should be up by more than one.

Watch Wenger send out the same team again with the same (what shall we call them?)... tactics?

[RomfordPele]

It's ok guys, we've got Sanchez and Ozil on the bench, right?

I mean it's not like wenger has been that arrogant and complacent not to bring them along, surely?

[Goonermerree]

It's ok guys, we've got Sanchez and Ozil on the bench, right?

I mean it's not like wenger has been that arrogant and complacent not to bring them along, surely?

Yeh, about that...

[Marc Overmars]

Wenger :haha:

[Goonermerree]

Wenger :haha:

Got to love him:unsure:

[RomfordPele]

We are a bit screwed without coquelin, aren't we?

How long is he out for?

[Power n Glory]

We are a bit screwed without coquelin, aren't we?

How long is he out for?

We're going to need to do something drastic and play a wildcard in that Cazorla role. Ozil or Iwobi. We have the the extra man advantage in the midfield with our formation but still can't dominate possession and create chances.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal you useless shits.

[Goonermerree]

We will still win this, I'm sure.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

RAMSEY!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Commentators on my American stream, "Don't underestimate Arsenal's ability to get worse..."

[Power n Glory]

Goal. Iwobi and Ramsey.

[Goonermerree]

1-1

[Goonermerree]

Iwobi made that

[Globalgunner]

Ramsey. Ok here we go

[A Gunner]

1 - 1.

Thanks fuck, Ramsey!

[Niall_Quinn]

We open the half moving the ball forward, using a bit of pace. And we score. Probably coincidence, but maybe there's something to it?

[Power n Glory]

We open the half moving the ball forward, using a bit of pace. And we score. Probably coincidence, but maybe there's something to it?

Zero to do with pace. Iwobi keeping that ball in a tight spot, drawing players towards him then finding Ramsey is what made it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

These commentators. :lol:

Lots of Premier League teams have struggled in the early rounds and it seems that way for Arsenal.

We score.

Simon Grayson would've been expecting this [comeback] from Arsenal, wouldn't he?

Frauds.

[Niall_Quinn]

Energy levels are around 100% higher. Serious questions need to be asked about our game preparation.

Oh wait, we already asked them all, for years.

[Goonermerree]

We open the half moving the ball forward, using a bit of pace. And we score. Probably coincidence, but maybe there's something to it?

Don't get carried away,we'll soon go back to tippy tappy, pissy passy.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Ramsey fouled by Moe Howard

[Globalgunner]

Mustafi for 35m only looks good value when compared to Stones for 50m. We could have bought Van Dijk for the same price, a superior player.

[Niall_Quinn]

Zero to do with pace. Iwobi keeping that ball in a tight spot, drawing players towards him then finding Ramsey is what made it.

The reason we had the ball up there in the first place is because we went forward instead of sideways and we moved players up the pitch at speed in support. Like Preston were doing all first half. None of this is complicated. Football's a very simple game. Wenger makes it complicated.

[Goonermerree]

The reason we had the ball up there in the first place is because we went forward instead of sideways and we moved players up the pitch at speed in support. Like Preston were doing all first half. None of this is complicated. Football's a very simple game. Wenger makes it complicated.

I agree with you whoever you are!

[Niall_Quinn]

10 mins until the subs.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mustafi for 35m only looks good value when compared to Stones for 50m. We could have bought Van Dijk for the same price, a superior player.

He really isn't.

[Power n Glory]

The reason we had the ball up there in the first place is because we went forward instead of sideways and we moved players up the pitch at speed in support. Like Preston were doing all first half. None of this is complicated. Football's a very simple game. Wenger makes it complicated.

We've always tried to play the ball forward. The problem has been the quality of the passing and control. Xhaka almost lost the ball from deep again before playing a ball over the top to help set up the goal.

[Goonermerree]

We've always tried to play the ball forward. The problem has been the quality of the passing and control. Xhaka almost lost the ball from deep again before playing a ball over the top to help set up the goal.

We so don't, we play it sideways, backwards, tippy tappy round the box, we rarely go at a team with pace

[RomfordPele]

We still look very shaky. Not out of the woods yet.

[Niall_Quinn]

We've always tried to play the ball forward. The problem has been the quality of the passing and control. Xhaka almost lost the ball from deep again before playing a ball over the top to help set up the goal.

Bollocks have we. You give any of those midfielders a choice and they'll play it square or backwards every time. It's like having fingernails pulled while being kicked in the balls watching us grind through our usual routine. But every now and again, pass, pass, pass up the field and a bit of running and that's when we look dangerous. The rest of the time you wouldn't back us to get it in the box let alone the goal. We've been crucified with this shit football for years now. Particularly cruel because we used to be the team that could power up a pitch in seconds.

[Globalgunner]

We have equalised, so back to crappy play. Lets take them back to the Grove

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cunningham booked. McManaman says it's ok.

[GP]

Has McManaman ever even seen a football match?

Clueless.

[Niall_Quinn]

Horrible scrote.

[Power n Glory]

Ref is full of shit. Defender was all over Giroud. Shirt and everything.

[GP]

McManaman is borderline retarded.

[Niall_Quinn]

Penalty to us. But the ref sees it and says play on.

[Power n Glory]

We so don't, we play it sideways, backwards, tippy tappy round the box, we rarely go at a team with pace

But that goal didn't come from any extra added pace.

[Niall_Quinn]

But that goal didn't come from any extra added pace.

And he's actually answering your suggestion that we always try to play forwards. Anyway, I meant tempo, not pace.

[Power n Glory]

Bollocks have we. You give any of those midfielders a choice and they'll play it square or backwards every time. It's like having fingernails pulled while being kicked in the balls watching us grind through our usual routine. But every now and again, pass, pass, pass up the field and a bit of running and that's when we look dangerous. The rest of the time you wouldn't back us to get it in the box let alone the goal. We've been crucified with this shit football for years now. Particularly cruel because we used to be the team that could power up a pitch in seconds.

So the chances Giroud and Ramsey missed in the first half, those didn't come from passes being played forward?

[Niall_Quinn]

Embarrassing by Bif.

[Goonermerree]

Sub time, sub time!!

[Goonermerree]

Gabriel losing the plot again,I thought he'd got over that.

[RomfordPele]

Gabriel losing the plot again,I thought he'd got over that.

Terrible signing. Squillaci mark 2.

[Power n Glory]

And he's actually answering your suggestion that we always try to play forwards. Anyway, I meant tempo, not pace.

Again, that goal had zero to do with an injection of pace. Just a case of quality.

[Niall_Quinn]

So the chances Giroud and Ramsey missed in the first half, those didn't come from passes being played forward?

You know what I'm talking about. When other teams up the tempo and try to get it forward we drop the tempo and start that stupid tip tap routine. If you haven't noticed that by now then you must have been watching a different team all this time. Tip, tap, tip, tap, even when we're losing. I think Wenger calls it patience, the type that would test a saint.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sub time, sub time!!

I guess he's happy with this pile of shit today.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Maxwell saves from Mustafi.

[Goonermerree]

I guess he's happy with this pile of shit today.
We want Welbz, we want welbz.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pearson booked.

[Goonermerree]

I hate to say it because I like him, but Oz needs to leave Arsenal. I remember having a discussion on another board years ago saying the same thing about Theo. Of course, it's for footballing reasons, but why would they bother when they can milk the club for playing shit?

[Power n Glory]

You know what I'm talking about. When other teams up the tempo and try to get it forward we drop the tempo and start that stupid tip tap routine. If you haven't noticed that by now then you must have been watching a different team all this time. Tip, tap, tip, tap, even when we're losing. I think Wenger calls it patience, the type that would test a saint.

Are you watching the game now? What's your assume by on getting the ball forward?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Disallowed goal for Bif.

[Goonermerree]

Well, off side.

[Niall_Quinn]

Are you watching the game now? What's your assume by on getting the ball forward?

Are you following the thread? This STARTED by me saying that finally, we were going towards their goal.

Bif offside. So lazy by both men in the middle. But at least they were there, for a change.

[Goonermerree]

Wot, no subs?

[Niall_Quinn]

Preston award themselves a FK. This ref is shite. Par for the course.

[Power n Glory]

Are you following the thread? This STARTED by me saying that finally, we were going towards their goal.

Bif offside. So lazy by both men in the middle. But at least they were there, for a change.

Auto correct. Sorry. What I meant to say, what's your assessment on the pace now and getting the ball forward.

[Goonermerree]

Here he comes!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great control Big Sexy.

Ox hauled of, Welbz on.

[A Gunner]

Ox off
Welbeck on

[Goonermerree]

Come on dat man, score. Disclaimer: I do not think that he is world class, but he will put in a shift and it is somebody different.

[Niall_Quinn]

82 mins and he makes the sub. Welbeck has no excuses if he can't get up to match speed and score in the next 8 mins.

[AFC Leveller]

Iwobi is too timid and weak to play in the number 10 position.

[Niall_Quinn]

Auto correct. Sorry. What I meant to say, what's your assessment on the pace now and getting the ball forward.

Much better. Which goes to the other point, the manager needs to be picked up for not sending his teams out ready to hustle from the start. He's negligent in every respect. I don't know how he gets away with it. Probably because the owners couldn't give a shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Iwobi shot, straight at Maxwell

[Goonermerree]

Much better. Which goes to the other point, the manager needs to be picked up for not sending his teams out ready to hustle from the start. He's negligent in every respect. I don't know how he gets away with it. Probably because the owners couldn't give a shit.

CL is lucrative and, thus far, he gets that every year. Lines their pockets.

[RomfordPele]

Really don't like the idea of them having a six feet seven striker on the pitch. Recipe for last minute winner.

[AFC Leveller]

Yessss

But u sexy bitch

[McNamara That Ghost...]

GIROUD!!!!!

[Power n Glory]

Goal!!!!

[A Gunner]

1 - 2 Giroud!!!

[GP]

Giroud is fucking great.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pubbed in a bit but Lucas. :bow:

[RomfordPele]

Thank goodness for that!

[Niall_Quinn]

BIF!

But he's doing that CL last minute winner thing again.

Perez made it.

[Niall_Quinn]

4 mins added.

[Power n Glory]

Much better. Which goes to the other point, the manager needs to be picked up for not sending his teams out ready to hustle from the start. He's negligent in every respect. I don't know how he gets away with it. Probably because the owners couldn't give a shit.

Or you could give Wenger some credit for telling the team to sort their shit out at half time.

The quality in the first half was piss poor and we were passing poorly. We've had plenty of 'tip tappy' moments in this half but it's called build up play.

[A Gunner]

Holding, The Jeff on
Maitland-Niles, Perez off

[Globalgunner]

Perez is the best purchase of the summer.....and Holding too

[Niall_Quinn]

Jeff's on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Or you could give Wenger some credit for telling the team to sort their shit out at half time.

The quality in the first half was piss poor and we were passing poorly. We've had plenty of 'tip tappy' moments in this half but it's called build up play.

Arsene!?? Is that you?

Build up play :haha:

Boring, pointless shit more like. Building up to what? 30 taps around a 3 yard square and then lose the ball as soon as it goes anywhere near the opposition?

Give Wenger credit for not preparing the team? No, not a chance.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbz. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Preston 1-2 Arsenal, FT. :bow:

[A Gunner]

1 - 2 FT

[Niall_Quinn]

Welbeck. Makes the space. Shot on target. That's more like it. Good save.

[GP]

SHE WORE!

[Goonermerree]

SHE WORE!

Way too soon!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well that was a load of crusty wank

[GP]

Way too soon!

Fuck you.

[dostoy]

Danny Welbeck returning is great and to come back from 1-0 down away from home when the opposition is fully motivated is very good as well.

We have just, and I mean just, beaten Preston though so its not that great.

We are not good enough to win anything this season.

[Power n Glory]

Arsene!?? Is that you?

Build up play :haha:

Boring, pointless shit more like. Building up to what? 30 taps around a 3 yard square and then lose the ball as soon as it goes anywhere near the opposition?

Give Wenger credit for not preparing the team? No, not a chance.

Pointless talking to you about these things. Plenty of 'tip tap' in the 2nd half.

[Master Splinter]

Captain Bifheart :bow:.

[Goonermerree]

Fuck you.

Thank you, same to you.

[RomfordPele]

Fuckin hell these interviews are depressing.

"They surprised us with their commitment" etc

[AFC Leveller]

Perez is sharp and knows what's he doing. wish we played him closer to goal cos he's finishing is lethal.

[Niall_Quinn]

Pointless talking to you about these things. Plenty of 'tip tap' in the 2nd half.

You mean build up play?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wright and Humphey, it wasn't literally a sucker punch.

[Niall_Quinn]

Perez is sharp and knows what's he doing. wish we played him closer to goal cos he's finishing is lethal.

We can't because the 10 minute man Bif is back. Fortunately/ Unfortunately he gets his goals. So we're stuck with him as a classic case of Wenger bare minimalism.

[Master Splinter]

Pointless talking to you about these things. Plenty of 'tip tap' in the 2nd half.

We're not even a good passing team anymore and aside from Cazorla and Elneny, every player's technique is erratic. We haven't been successfully 'tippy-tappying' since about 2009.

But it seems fans and pundits alike only have a couple of lazy ways to generalise not just Arsenal, but anything football-related these days. You can't have a go at the feckless media and then resort to tired cliches when analysing your own team.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're not even a good passing team anymore and aside from Cazorla and Elneny, every player's technique is erratic. We haven't been successfully 'tippy-tappying' since about 2009.

But it seems fans and pundits alike only have a couple of lazy ways to generalise not just Arsenal, but anything football-related these days. You can't have a go at the feckless media and then resort to tired cliches when analysing your own team.

Tippy tappy is our shit and incompetent version of tika taka. Wenger obviously thinks we play the latter whereas everyone else can see we play the former.

[Power n Glory]

We're not even a good passing team anymore and aside from Cazorla and Elneny, every player's technique is erratic. We haven't been successfully 'tippy-tappying' since about 2009.

But it seems fans and pundits alike only have a couple of lazy ways to generalise not just Arsenal, but anything football-related these days. You can't have a go at the feckless media and then resort to tired cliches when analysing your own team.

Exactly. It's been a struggle for us when certain players like Santi and Elneny are out. We really struggled to get a hold of ourselves in the first half and just getting the ball in the final third was a challenge. Poor execution, decision making....just poor. It's not the pace it's the technique that stops us playing faster because we've got players that can't pass, can't control the ball or stand next to their marker all game.

But this whole tippy tappy stuff I see on here is really lazy. The first goal we scored wasn't even a case of a rapid change in pace. It was good work from Iwobi too hold that ball up and then find the open space.

[Niall_Quinn]

Exactly. It's been a struggle for us when certain players like Santi and Elneny are out. We really struggled to get a hold of ourselves in the first half and just getting the ball in the final third was a challenge. Poor execution, decision making....just poor. It's not the pace it's the technique that stops us playing faster because we've got players that can't pass, can't control the ball or stand next to their marker all game.

But this whole tippy tappy stuff I see on here is really lazy. The first goal we scored wasn't even a case of a rapid change in pace. It was good work from Iwobi too hold that ball up and then find the open space.

Yeah. The ball just materialised out of thin air at the feet of Iwobi, who also materialised out of thin air, who passed it to Ramsey, who also materialised out of thin air. In fact nothing at all ever happened before Iwobi touched that ball.

The goal had EVERYTHING to do with direct play as opposed to shit, negative play.

[Power n Glory]

Yeah. The ball just materialised out of thin air at the feet of Iwobi, who also materialised out of thin air, who passed it to Ramsey, who also materialised out of thin air. In fact nothing at all ever happened before Iwobi touched that ball.

The goal had EVERYTHING to do with direct play as opposed to shit, negative play.

Go over the the match thread. We can discuss this rubbish over there.

[Niall_Quinn]

Go over the the match thread. We can discuss this rubbish over there.

Just did. You actually put up video evidence to refute your own point. Cheers.

[Letters]

BIF!

But he's doing that CL last minute winner thing again.

Perez made it.

At least it WAS a winner this time! :lol: