Southampton v Arsenal, 19:45, 10/05

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Arsenal: Cech, Holding, Mustafi, Monreal, Ox, Ramsey, Xhaka, Gibbs, Ozil, Alexis, Welbeck.

[Maestro]

what channel are we on?

[Niall_Quinn]

what channel are we on?

None, by the look of it. Pirate streams ahoy.

[Maestro]

None, by the look of it. Pirate streams ahoy.


okay so we're on GW

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal you berks.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey shoots wide.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ox crosses out for a corner and no sod in sight.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's a pretty poor effort from Ramsey. At least get it on target.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ox crosses out for a corner and no sod in sight.

We work hard on that.

[Niall_Quinn]

In some ways, Gibbs is shite.

[Power n Glory]

Zero creativity besides Ox on the right.

[Niall_Quinn]

Zero creativity besides Ox on the right.

Pretty much.

Like a training match so far. Zero desire or urgency from either side.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gabbiadini. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Anyone got a decent stream that isn't cutting out every 5 seconds? Just missed the first action of the game.

[Niall_Quinn]

Thanks heavens for Cech. All on his own there as the famous back 3 went missing.

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder where the players get off thinking they can play like this? Zero effort, zero entertainment and they are being paid a fucking fortune. Shitty attitude.

Ozil there, for instance. Where's the sharpness as he got into the box with a shooting chance? Just hit the fucking ball FFS!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mesut should've dived.

Ox is dead.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bellerin on for him.

[Niall_Quinn]

LOL, our only player that gives a damn goes off injured.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're going to get turned over here if we don't wake the fuck up and start bossing this, frankly, average Soton team. They have that Gabbiadini bloke up front FFS! We should be beating this lot like ginger headed stepchildren.

[Niall_Quinn]

Gabbiadini :haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

What do we think of Tottenham?

[Niall_Quinn]

What do we think of Tottenham?

Quite good really.

What do we think of this performance tonight?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Quite good really.

What do we think of this performance tonight?

Shit!

[Niall_Quinn]

That should be a red card. But it won't be.

Moss - you fucking cheat. Xhaka got sent off for less than that.

What's the rule then?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Oooh to, oooh to be,
Oooh to, oooh to be,
Oooh to, ooh to be,
Oooh to be a Gooner!

[Xhaka Can’t]

That should be a red card. But it won't be.

Moss - you fucking cheat. Xhaka got sent off for less than that.

What's the rule then?

Just be glad Xhaka didn't get sent off!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Someone smash it!

[Niall_Quinn]

Bellerin puts in a decent cross at least. Probably the highlight of our half.

[Niall_Quinn]

Unbelievable shit.

No, after you. Oh I couldn't, please, you shoot first. I insist! Really, I couldn't.

[Penguin]

I only watched the last 8 minutes and I'm already bored to death.

[Niall_Quinn]

HT 0-0

One giant piss take. Leaving only shit.

The football this fraud Wenger has dreamed up is really the worst I have ever seen.

[Niall_Quinn]

I only watched the last 8 minutes and I'm already bored to death.

Well let's wait for the possession stats before we jump to reality.

[Power n Glory]

Ox was the only player trying to be creative. God knows how so of these players get away with this. Nobody is taking responsibility.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Davis sends it flying.

[AFC Leveller]

We always make Southampton look like Barcelona at their best. We let them play, we give them chance after chance and we look uncomfortable at St Marys.

A 2-0 loss wouldn't surprise me.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ramsey really is a liability.

[AFC Leveller]

So Ward Prowse should be off by now, a blatant last man foul and now an elbow on Montreal.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good block from Welbz to deny Ramsey.

[Niall_Quinn]

They can't be arsed. They must have had to cancel a card night to be here and they have the hump.

Ramsey :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Foul throw. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

So Ward Prowse should be off by now, a blatant last man foul and now an elbow on Montreal.

tbf to the ref, he didn't book Xhaka for either of those incidents.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Piss poor from Ozil.

[Niall_Quinn]

Fortunately, Southampton are shite. Otherwise we'd be a fair few goals behind by now.

[AFC Leveller]

tbf to the ref, he didn't book Xhaka for either of those incidents.

Fairy nuff.

[Niall_Quinn]

On nights like this and with performances as shit as this, it's exactly when the manager needs to get off his arse and shake it up. Do something.

Absolutely fuck all from our muppet, so far.

[Niall_Quinn]

Get Flamini on!

[Globalgunner]

On nights like this and with performances as shit as this, it's exactly when the manager needs to get off his arse and shake it up. Do something.

Absolutely fuck all from our muppet, so far.

Judge him in May

[Niall_Quinn]

We get the ball in the middle and everyone has a lazy jog up the pitch.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

ALEXIS!!!!!

[Niall_Quinn]

Gibbs is a fucking moronic player. Welbeck plays the give and go and moron Gibbs immediately looks backwards and plays it safe.

[AFC Leveller]

Sick goal sick player Sanchez

[AFC Leveller]

Alexis showing us that when he plays in the middle he scores. He sent those two defenders for a kebab.

[Niall_Quinn]

Finally Xhaka, Ozil and Alexis opt to do something.

[Niall_Quinn]

20PL goals for Alexis now, despite Wenger sabotaging his season.

[AFC Leveller]

Gibbs is a fucking moronic player. Welbeck plays the give and go and moron Gibbs immediately looks backwards and plays it safe.

The very definition of a passenger. Plays it safe, shows no ambition and has no personality or stature on the pitch.

[Niall_Quinn]

Surely a pen? WTF?

[Niall_Quinn]

Yes a pen. How can advantage there be better than a pen?

[AFC Leveller]

Alexis looks injured.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Xhaka with Xhaka boom, deflected and saved this time.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alexis screaming in frustration at how shit that cross from Bellerin was.

[Niall_Quinn]

Two shots from Xhaka in 2 matches. That's a 3 game ban.

[AFC Leveller]

Definitely a second goal here for us if we stay solid. Saints are leaving acres of space in behind but our final ball is shit, Bellerin still can't cross.

[Power n Glory]

Might as well bring Giroud on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Might as well bring Giroud on.

Don't give him any encouragement. It's exactly the sort of thing he'd do. In about 3 minutes from now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey well and truly in the pub.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ramsey kills us. So frustrating.

[Niall_Quinn]

Xhaka embarrassingly collapses after being hit by the ball.

[Power n Glory]

Don't give him any encouragement. It's exactly the sort of thing he'd do. In about 3 minutes from now.

Welbeck isn't on the right wave length to find these crosses being put in. He hasn't moved when a good one finally arrives.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mesut booked. :rolleyes:

[Niall_Quinn]

Moss is such a cheating cunt. Ozil booked for a very minor offence that has been happening all night.

[Niall_Quinn]

Welbeck isn't on the right wave length to find these crosses being put in. He hasn't moved when a good one finally arrives.

You were serious?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Long handball, surely?

[Power n Glory]

You were serious?

Giroud is a better coming off the bench.

[Niall_Quinn]

Very deliberate handball by long. Play on says Moss the cunt.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Romeu is absolute filth.

[Niall_Quinn]

Giroud is a better coming off the bench.

That was true for about 2 games, months ago. He's been on holiday since then.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Boufal. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbz off, Bif on.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bif on with lighting crew and photographers.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

GIROUD!!!!

[AFC Leveller]

2-0 bif

[Power n Glory]

NQ = :haha:

[GP]

What a player :bow:

[AFC Leveller]

Wenger jumping up and down like a lunatic.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bif heads in the second with total disregard for his quiff.

[Globalgunner]

Wow! Ramsey does something positive at last. A good Giroud goal.

[Niall_Quinn]

NQ = :haha:

I could have scored that. Not even Giroud could miss.

[Power n Glory]

I could have scored that. Not even Giroud could miss.

It's about being in the right position as well as hitting the target. Welbeck struggles with both. Either way, have some humble pie.

[AFC Leveller]

Alexis on 20 goals in the league and 9 (?) assists but he's no Mane so can't be in team of the year.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Theo. :lol:

Just retire mate.

[AFC Leveller]

We've actually defended their crosses pretty well today, won a lot of headers.

[AFC Leveller]

Giroud's positioning in the box and goal scoring instincts are much better than Welbecks.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's about being in the right position as well as hitting the target. Welbeck struggles with both. Either way, have some humble pie.

Let's sign him up for another contract then.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-2 FT. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Theo. :lol:

Just retire mate.

Thought he was injured?

[Niall_Quinn]

FT 0-2

Absolutely rotten performance, bar one moment of quality involving Xhaka, Ozil and Alexis. Otherwise, rancid right across the pitch, from both teams.

Gibbs and Ramsey - what's that about then?

[Power n Glory]

Let's sign him up for another contract then.

Relax. I said he was suited for the conditions of this game and a good sub likely to score. I still wouldn't start him to play.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Thought he was injured?

Just his pride.

[GP]

Just his pride.

I don't know about that, he's got a coffee machine.

[Power n Glory]

Giroud's positioning in the box and goal scoring instincts are much better than Welbecks.

I don't think Welbeck has a strikers instinct. He has to work on it.

[Niall_Quinn]

We have a striker who was on course to win the golden boot. But Wenger spotted that in the nick of time.

[Power n Glory]

Theo. :lol:

Just retire mate.

Would make a better striker than Welbeck.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

He would score more than Welbeck and Giroud imho.

[AFC Leveller]

Alexis this season:

46 games
25 goals
15 assist

Would have been 35 goals had wenger not intervened.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Lukaku is actually leading the league with 24. Always suspected he could get over 20..... and most people here aren't convinced by him. We went nuts when Adebayor got 25!

[Marc Overmars]

A win over Stoke and a favour from West Ham and that glorious trophy could be coming home.

[Niall_Quinn]

Lukaku is fine on a farm. A good workhorse and plough, all in one. If we want to continue being top 4 also-rans he'll do, like Giroud. But if we want to progress and move into the upper ranks we'll have to set our sights a bit higher.

[Xhaka Can’t]

A win over Stoke and a favour from West Ham and that glorious trophy could be coming home.

It's gonna happen. West Ham have bailed us out so often it's funny.

[Power n Glory]

He would score more than Welbeck and Giroud imho.

Agreed. Not sure why Welbeck is given so much grace considering his highest goal tally for us is 8 goals in a season. 19 goals for Theo from the wing yet not given a look in.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

When did Giroud get anywhere near 24 league goals with a few league games ago.....and Lukaku is nowhere near as static or slow so although you're not comparing them...mentioning them in the same sentence really doesn't sit well.

We could have won the league last season and this season with better focus and direction with what we have nevermind adding anybody else.

[Power n Glory]

Lukaku is actually leading the league with 24. Always suspected he could get over 20..... and most people here aren't convinced by him. We went nuts when Adebayor got 25!

He'd be a better option over what we have now.

[Power n Glory]

Lukaku is actually leading the league with 24. Always suspected he could get over 20..... and most people here aren't convinced by him. We went nuts when Adebayor got 25!

He'd be a better option over what we have now.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Agreed. Not sure why Welbeck is given so much grace considering his highest goal tally for us is 8 goals in a season. 19 goals for Theo from the wing yet not given a look in.

I like Welbeck and don't mind Giroud but the only one fit to play centre forward an entire season is Sanchez....but Wenger won't stick with anybody there :rolleyes:

[AFC Leveller]

Lukaku is fine on a farm. A good workhorse and plough, all in one. If we want to continue being top 4 also-rans he'll do, like Giroud. But if we want to progress and move into the upper ranks we'll have to set our sights a bit higher.

He's worth 65 million now that the media have hyped him up. A decent striker but not anywhere near the finished article and has a tendency to play like Heskey.

[Power n Glory]

I like Welbeck and don't mind Giroud but the only one fit to play centre forward an entire season is Sanchez....but Wenger won't stick with anybody there :rolleyes:

Danny works hard and seems like a good guy but is the furthest behind when it comes to understanding the striker role. Unless in blistering form, I wouldn't start him there. Alexis is the obvious choice but lord knows what Wenger is thinking.

Giroud...I just wouldn't start him. He's a better sub.

[Power n Glory]

He's worth 65 million now that the media have hyped him up. A decent striker but not anywhere near the finished article and has a tendency to play like Heskey.

I don't think there was much wrong with Heskey's style of play. It was his finishing that let him down. Lukaku has been finishing goals for a while now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Agreed. Not sure why Welbeck is given so much grace considering his highest goal tally for us is 8 goals in a season. 19 goals for Theo from the wing yet not given a look in.

Because Wenger will always do the opposite to what makes sense. If something starts working, Wenger will change it. If it's broken, he'll persist with it. I think he views himself as being in a unique position where he can spot qualiteeeees that nobody else can see. Only he had the vision to spot Sanogo's potential. Only he could see the value of Chamakh, everyone else missed it. And when Alexis started settling into the role of striker, Wenger could see there was a problem when every other fool thought things were working well. So Wenger stepped in and fixed things good and proper. The rest is long, painful and repetitive history.

[Niall_Quinn]

When did Giroud get anywhere near 24 league goals with a few league games ago.....and Lukaku is nowhere near as static or slow so although you're not comparing them...mentioning them in the same sentence really doesn't sit well.

We could have won the league last season and this season with better focus and direction with what we have nevermind adding anybody else.

I'm saying Lukaku and Giroud can play at a certain level, but if we want to start mentioning Arsenal in the same breath as the top European clubs we'll have to be more ambitious, particularly in the transfer market. As Arsenal fans we are all well aware of what constitutes top tier quality. Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, direct equivalents may not be around today but we need to be looking in that type of shop window if we are serious. Otherwise we settle for the lower level.

[Letters]

Wenger :bow:

:lol:

[Marc Overmars]

I like Welbeck and don't mind Giroud but the only one fit to play centre forward an entire season is Sanchez....but Wenger won't stick with anybody there :rolleyes:

If form didn't come into it, I reckon he would play Giroud because he sees the tippy tappyness he brings with the lay offs and thinks that's what his striker should be doing.

All this chopping and changing helps no one, I still have no idea why Sanchez was removed from the role after his blistering start to the season. Theo should be the alternative if for whatever reason Sanchez is not central. The penny will never drop for him, dinosaur of a manager and one of the reasons he needs to go.

I like Welbeck but I know he's never going to be productive striker, he's just not switched on enough. Supreme athlete but only someone to use sparingly and for specific roles. Fergie always used to deploy him to do a job because that's how you get the most out of him, he never relied on him for goals.

[Penguin]

As a footballer I won't argue that Lukaku is a good striker and better than anyone we have at CF at the moment. But it will be like having another Ozil on the pitch in terms of work rate. The guy is just that lazy. Wont chase anything, wants everything to feet and wont put himself about enough to make use of his physique. We have enough players with that kind of attitude and I don't particularly want another one. We should be stacking our squad with fighters like Alexis.

[AFC Leveller]

The way Alexis sent those two Southampton defenders to the floor and finished it past Forster was really special. So calm and collected in front of goal.

[Power n Glory]

An example of why I want Alexis in the middle. It's the sort of goal we won't get from our other strikers because they can't even control the ball when zipped in with pace yet alone drop two defenders and score. Seen Welbeck in similar situations and his touch is way too heavy. Ozil would have to deliver a pass that puts Danny clean through on goal where he can hit it first time.

Wenger has to switch it up. Bring Sanchez back into middle and could even be a good time to bring back Iwobi to replace Sanchez's old position.

[AFC Leveller]

An example of why I want Alexis in the middle. It's the sort of goal we won't get from our other strikers because they can't even control the ball when zipped in with pace yet alone drop two defenders and score. Seen Welbeck in similar situations and his touch is way too heavy. Ozil would have to deliver a pass that puts Danny clean through on goal where he can hit it first time.

Wenger has to switch it up. Bring Sanchez back into middle and could even be a good time to bring back Iwobi to replace Sanchez's old position.

I agree with bringing Sanchez back up front, esp against Chelsea at a neutral (and wide) venue. When we played them at their place their sat back and denied him space so he kept coming deep and was one of worst players that day. However at Wembley he would have a lot more space as the pitch is wider.

Don't agree with bringing Iwobi back tho, simply because he is currently out of his depth as a wide man. He doesn't bring anything to the side and is a proper wenger player in that he loves a pass back or a cut inside and the easy option. I'd play Welbeck wide as he at least takes his man on and can put a decent cross in.