Thomas Lemar

[Dicks and chicks]

Think it will happen.

[GP]

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[Niall_Quinn]

No.

[Power n Glory]

It's a worry we're not being linked with anybody else. Central midfield needs addressing.

[Marc Overmars]

I'm sure we could get him for £50m but whether he's any good is another matter.

Lemar is the last one standing and Monaco have to completely rebuild their team regardless, so they might just think fuck it and sell him.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's a worry we're not being linked with anybody else. Central midfield needs addressing.

Didn't you see Ramsey constantly abandoning his post in midfield against the chavs? Him, alongside the willing but limited Coquelin or the half asleep Xhaka is what we'll go with. It didn't work last season so it's bound to work this one.

[Niall_Quinn]

What we're doing is watching another, "We tried for him last year but now the price is too high", saga unfolding. In this crazy marketplace we have the most unsuitable manager in the world running the show. He still thinks his view of what represents value has some bearing on the market. It doesn't. It just means we're always last to the table.

[Penguin]

Why hasn't Ramsey been told to stop it with the headless chicken act? He has no tactical awareness. Someone needs to sit down with him and go through a replay showing him how he's leaving our centre so exposed. It completely unbalances the team when he's in midfield.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Think it will happen.

I'll ban you if it doesn't.

[GP]

Hope it doesn't happen.

[AFC Leveller]

From what i saw of him i thought he was a quality player. Is he what we need to challenge for the title? no. What we need is a proper DCM.

[Niall_Quinn]

From what i saw of him i thought he was a quality player. Is he what we need to challenge for the title? no. What we need is a proper DCM.

We already have qualiteeeee in the centre. Ask Wenger. He'll tell you.

[Chippy]

Think it will happen.

http://www.allarsenal.com/2017/07/arsenalrumours/bad-news-for-arsenal-as-monaco-give-update-on-lemar-future/

:(

[Niall_Quinn]

Looks like it will be close to the 80mill then. And we won't pay that.

Cue the Mahrez rumours.

[Özim]

We're a bunch of clueless clowns in the transfer market anyway, we have no idea how to conduct business properly and get deals done, it's painfully slow and a tiresome saga we have to endure every single summer, the club takes all the joy out of the excitement of transfers.

[selassie]

We're a bunch of clueless clowns in the transfer market anyway, we have no idea how to conduct business properly and get deals done, it's painfully slow and a tiresome saga we have to endure every single summer, the club takes all the joy out of the excitement of transfers.

Monaco's players were available for transfer when City and Chelsea were involved, the minute we get involved we put in scatter gun bids for a player they are hell bent on not selling to us.

This will end up being another wasted window where we don't improve the squad, we are trying to get rid of a lot of junk in the squad and we can't even get rid of them, it wouldn't be so bad but we are literally giving these players away and yet they are still not moving. The whole thing is one big mess.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

If we miss out on Lemar? Ok but make sure we snag Mahrez instead

[Özim]

Lemar staying at Monaco apparently, that's that then, good job Wenger:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11816/10962720/monaco-confirm-plans-for-kylian-mbappe-extension-and-thomas-lemar-stay

[Chippy]

Lemar staying at Monaco apparently, that's that then, good job Wenger:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11816/10962720/monaco-confirm-plans-for-kylian-mbappe-extension-and-thomas-lemar-stay

Don't forget we have Wilshire coming back! He will be like a new qualiteeeeee signing:)

[Power n Glory]

Don't forget we have Wilshire coming back! He will be like a new qualiteeeeee signing:)

We've can't shift Wellington Silva and we also have Joel Campbell coming back.

[Niall_Quinn]

We've can't shift Wellington Silva and we also have Joel Campbell coming back.

Silva's gone I thought? Back to Brazil?

Thought Campbell was gone too. Was that only a loan then? Poor bastard, he must be dreading coming back.

Wilshere to West Ham sounds like it might be real. If they agree to pay 9 mill for our future England captain.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sounds like we've fucked all possibility of Lemar coming here. Playing the underbid game and waiting until the chavs and gypos had done their business didn't work out well for us. Big surprise. We wouldn't have Lacazette either, were it not for a transfer ban on the club he wanted to go to.

Alexis should be back now, so the fun and games will really start. Probability of this window resulting in Lacazette in/ Alexis out is increasing all the time. If that's how we end up it'll have to be qualified as yet another disastrous window. If this is the new and invigorated team in action, I'm not impressed.

[Power n Glory]

Silva's gone I thought? Back to Brazil?

Thought Campbell was gone too. Was that only a loan then? Poor bastard, he must be dreading coming back.

Wilshere to West Ham sounds like it might be real. If they agree to pay 9 mill for our future England captain.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-wellington-silva-bordeaux-move-10870059


Arsenal re-sign Wellington Silva from Fluminense but fail to move him onto Bordeaux after he fails medical

Yeah, Campbell was just a loan.

[GP]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-wellington-silva-bordeaux-move-10870059



http://www.fluminense.com.br/noticia/sobre-a-opcao-do-bordeaux-de-nao-contratar-wellington-silva

[Marc Overmars]

Always funny thinking back to all the academy prospects we had high hopes for.

We don't half stockpile some shite. Like most of the top clubs these days I guess.

[GP]

Chelsea have 87 players on loan, none of which will ever play for their first team.

[Özim]

Problem seems to be we can't get rid of the shite we stockpile, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Walcott, Wellbeck, Coquelin, Chambers, Gabriel, Debuchy, Silva (won't include Campbell as he's decent but isn't given a chance), they're all on such high wages and most clubs can see they are average, so nw we're stuck with a huge wagebill because of players like this.....terrible management of transfers/players all round to be honest.

[Özim]

Silva's gone I thought? Back to Brazil?

Pure greed, we got what we deserve, instead of making 1.5 million we've waste 1.5 million, wasting money is something we do rather well.

[Özim]

some reports Lemar deal is still on, hope this happens would be good to get someone else in, still reckon we need a CB and DCM (latter is very unlikely though with Xhaka in there).

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Problem seems to be we can't get rid of the shite we stockpile, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Walcott, Wellbeck, Coquelin, Chambers, Gabriel, Debuchy, Silva (won't include Campbell as he's decent but isn't given a chance), they're all on such high wages and most clubs can see they are average, so nw we're stuck with a huge wagebill because of players like this.....terrible management of transfers/players all round to be honest.

You dismiss Welbeck but think Joel Campbell is decent??

I think Welbeck is frustrating at best as a goal scorer, but his technical ability and contribution to play well exceeds that of Joel Campbell.

I'm not doing Campbell down, but if Wellbeck isnt Arsenal quality, Joel Campbell certainly isn't

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Jean Michel Serri would be a good signing, because it's obvious the player we missed most last season was Santi Cazorla

Someone who can control play in the middle of the park and create.

[Power n Glory]

You dismiss Welbeck but think Joel Campbell is decent??

I think Welbeck is frustrating at best as a goal scorer, but his technical ability and contribution to play well exceeds that of Joel Campbell.

I'm not doing Campbell down, but if Wellbeck isnt Arsenal quality, Joel Campbell certainly isn't

Exceeds? Nah.

Danny has the strength and work rate but not the technical ability. He can be very clumsy on the ball. Joel is a much better dribbler and passer. He's more creative plus he's always restricted to playing out on the wing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n6EY_VQ_zM

Both have their strengths and weaknesses but I have no idea why Joel has never had the sort of run in the team Danny has had.

[GP]

Campbell :lol:

He's good but he's no Sessegnon.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jean Michel Serri would be a good signing, because it's obvious the player we missed most last season was Santi Cazorla

Someone who can control play in the middle of the park and create.

Last thing we need. Another featherweight midget. No matter how gifted the guy is (and I don't know much about him) we need to get away from Wenger's shitball and back to proper football. Santi's a great player, but because he's so good he compensated for Wenger's crackpot bullshit and at times made it appear Wenger has a clue what he's doing. As soon as Santi was gone our football collapsed into this sideways, backwards nightmare that is the full limit of Wenger's genius.

Powerful, high energy player required in there. Somebody who can compete and take the knocks.

[Power n Glory]

Last thing we need. Another featherweight midget. No matter how gifted the guy is (and I don't know much about him) we need to get away from Wenger's shitball and back to proper football. Santi's a great player, but because he's so good he compensated for Wenger's crackpot bullshit and at times made it appear Wenger has a clue what he's doing. As soon as Santi was gone our football collapsed into this sideways, backwards nightmare that is the full limit of Wenger's genius.

Powerful, high energy player required in there. Somebody who can compete and take the knocks.

I heard this guy is 5,5 but no slouch and strong.

When the media tell us he's high profile I'm sure people will jump on to the bandwagon.

[fakeyank]

Joel Campbell is eons ahead of Walcott in terms of footballing ability. Quite why we have stuck with a player with the worst first touch in football history is puzzling.

[Power n Glory]

Joel Campbell is eons ahead of Walcott in terms of footballing ability. Quite why we have stuck with a player with the worst first touch in football history is puzzling.

He's a much better dribbler than Walcott and more suited to being a winger. Again, no idea why he hasn't been given a run in the team.

[Globalgunner]

He's a much better dribbler than Walcott and more suited to being a winger. Again, no idea why Wenger is still managing the team.

Thats more the reason. Campbell is a much better player than Walcott, but our manager is a crackpot lunatic

[GP]

Campbell isn't better than Walcott. You lot are nuts.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger isn't better than shit on my shoe. You lot are nuts.

:gp:

[fakeyank]

Think we should abandon this Lemar BS and move to Mahrez. I think he will be a better addition to the team than Lemar, and he is probably more affordable too. I'd rather have a one season wonder from the PL rather than another league.

[Niall_Quinn]

Think we should abandon this Lemar BS and move to Mahrez. I think he will be a better addition to the team than Lemar, and he is probably more affordable too. I'd rather have a one season wonder from the PL rather than another league.

No comparison between Lemar and Mahrez for me. One is powerful, high tempo, direct, ambitious, gutsy, runs for the whole 90, can pass and cross, the other is Mahrez.

Mahrez is a classic Wenger player who will fit neatly into the tip tap torture we have to endure as Arsenal fans. Lemar will break straight out of Wenger's bullshit and play at the same level and tempo as Alexis. This is probably the number one reason Wenger wants him, because Alexis is fucking off.

The one thing both players have in common is we won't be signing them.

[Power n Glory]

Think we should abandon this Lemar BS and move to Mahrez. I think he will be a better addition to the team than Lemar, and he is probably more affordable too. I'd rather have a one season wonder from the PL rather than another league.

That's the sort of logic that keeps average players in the team. That's not the way to go.

[Marc Overmars]

We've reportedly made another bid for Lemar. 50m this time, but L'Equipe say it has been rejected as they don't want to sell anymore players.

[GP]

If he categorically wasn't for sale we wouldn't keep going back with new bids.
This one will roll on a bit I think.

[Özim]

We've reportedly made another bid for Lemar. 50m this time, but L'Equipe say it has been rejected as they don't want to sell anymore players.

Monaco clearly don't need the money now and have said he isn't for sale, this means they don't really want to sell and will only do so if they get a big bid, they've said 80 million Euros so bidding 50 million is going to get you nowhere but we seem to specialise in lowball offers and dragging on transfers for entire summers, getting bored of this Lemar thing now, low bid followed by long wait, then another low bid and then same again, in that time Man City and Chelsea have bought soem of their players making it even harder and probably more expensive for us to buy him, pretty dum.

Based on what the situation Monaco are in we should go in with a bigger bid if we're really interested or just walk away and find someone else. We have a terrible way of handling transfers and go out of our way to antagonise other clubs it seems.

[Penguin]

He's a much better dribbler than Walcott and more suited to being a winger. Again, no idea why he hasn't been given a run in the team.

Forget Theo, at one point even Ramsey was starting games on the wing instead of Campbell.

:lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Who knows if Monaco want to sell or not. That isn't the problem. The problem lies with how we conduct our business, whether that be buying or selling.

Like Wenger, whoever has the say in conducting our transfer business hasn't the first fucking clue how to do it effectively.

The result is another summer of shit in the market where even when we do have some success such as Alexis, we fail to build upon it.

Every time.

[Niall_Quinn]

Who knows if Monaco want to sell or not. That isn't the problem. The problem lies with how we conduct our business, whether that be buying or selling.

Like Wenger, whoever has the say in conducting our transfer business hasn't the first fucking clue how to do it effectively.

The result is another summer of shit in the market where even when we do have some success such as Alexis, we fail to build upon it.

Every time.

:gp:

It really is comical how we go about it.

And I emphasise, we wouldn't have Lacazette either had it not been for a transfer ban. It's like something weird has to happen before we stand a chance of completing a deal. Unless it's for a bag of shit, in which case we are decisive.

[Dicks and chicks]

:gp:

It really is comical how we go about it.

And I emphasise, we wouldn't have Lacazette either had it not been for a transfer ban. It's like something weird has to happen before we stand a chance of completing a deal. Unless it's for a bag of shit, in which case we are decisive.

Should have got lacazette last season we would have an extra 20 mil this season

[Özim]

:gp:

It really is comical how we go about it.

And I emphasise, we wouldn't have Lacazette either had it not been for a transfer ban. It's like something weird has to happen before we stand a chance of completing a deal. Unless it's for a bag of shit, in which case we are decisive.

Spot on, Lacazette was on his way to Athletico but we got lucky and their ban put pay to that, if not for that we'd only have some freebie nobody to show this summer.

Oh and we can add Mbappe to the almost signed team, even though we never even bid and thus were never interested :lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Should have got lacazette last season we would have an extra 20 mil this season

20m for what?

And who cares?

The stewardship of this "club" makes me want to vomit. Had I not attached my allegiance to this team as a kid, I wouldn't come anywhere near this greedy cesspool of shit.

[Dicks and chicks]

60 mil bid on him give him a 1 year deal for an ideal situation and be done

[Dicks and chicks]

Barca in for him now

[Özim]

All summer looking for players and all we have to show for it is a striker and a freebie, what a disaster, after last season we needed:

1) a new manager
2) several quality new players
3) to get rid of dead wood

None of the above achieved and we've dragged our heels so long with those alleged deals for Seri and Lemar that now other clubs are interested who on the face of it hold more appeal than us. Meanwhile Wenger is celebrating the charity shield and looking forward to going into the season on a high, this despite pretty much having almost the same group of players who failed so miserably last year.

As for the players leaving, none of them seem to be on their way for some reason, we're stuck with them, even players who want to leave (and there aren't many as most seem happy enough picking up their large pay cheques and not having to work for it) aren't budging.

Happy days!

[selassie]

This saga re: Lemar is classic Arsenal. Show intent right up until the moment we have to pay the market rate for a highly rated youngster. What did we honestly expect? Monaco's team is getting torn apart by big clubs showing intent in the market by paying market rate for their star players. Good old Arsenal rock up and spend the best part of the summer lowballing for one of their Crown Jewels. We are actually pathetic in the transfer market, an embarrassment.

[Xhaka Can’t]

There is nothing this club loves more than the sound of Jim White slamming the transfer window shut.

[Özim]

I'm beginning to think we have more chance of signing the singer Lemar to play for us than this guy.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Is he cheap?

[Dicks and chicks]

Iiverpool 55 mil bid made

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Great rub salt into the wounds.

Faf around all summer not signing the one Monaco player we want when everyone else is plundering everyone else is plundering them and then get usurped by Liverpool who are willing to pay market rate.

[Dicks and chicks]

Great rub salt into the wounds.

Faf around all summer not signing the one Monaco player we want when everyone else is plundering everyone else is plundering them and then get usurped by Liverpool who are willing to pay market rate.

We lost 15 mil on mustafi , losing 100 mil in capital on ozil and Sanchez. The penny pinching is costing us more money than ever

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We lost 15 mil on mustafi , losing 100 mil in capital on ozil and Sanchez. The penny pinching is costing us more money than ever

Also we've still got no:

- no training ground sponsor
- no Shirt sleeve sponsor

It's not just the football management side of the club which is utterly hopeless. The club management side has been dire for a while now - letting players go into their final years with no consequences and not getting rid of deadwood. We're losing about 50 million year in complete waste which is anger inducing after all the years where we lived liked misers (and suffered for it) just so we could accumulate money in a bank.

Though tbf to Ivan, he try to introduce a Director of Football to the club last year as well as interview potential Wenger replacement though Wenger (with Kroenke's blessing) ended up poop pooping that idea. Imagine that a CEO having less power & clout at an organisation than one of his employees.

[Cripps]

Last week: wenger- lemar is not for sale
This week: liverpool bid £55m

:haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's almost like Wenger is full of BS. :haha:


At any rate signing Lemar would make zero difference. It'll only be a matter time before like many great players before him at the club, he'd be coached out of the skills and talents that make him an exciting player.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well do we know if Monaco have accepted the bid?

[Niall_Quinn]

They want 60 mill and have done so for over a month now. Wenger has known that since the 30 mill bid went in. Next season the price will be at least 80 mill, which is what Monaco prefer but they have always been willing to sell because that's the policy their owner set in motion.

The actual Liverpool bid is supposedly in the region of 67 million with some of that being add-ons.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's almost like Wenger is full of BS. :haha:


At any rate signing Lemar would make zero difference. It'll only be a matter time before like many great players before him at the club, he'd be coached out of the skills and talents that make him an exciting player.

Allowing Wenger to sign players would (at best) shore up things for another season and let him escape the realities of his mismanagement. Cesc couldn't do it, nor RvC, not Ozil, not Alexis - although we got some FA Cups on the back of those signings which caused many fans to relent and give Wenger another chance. But no player or collection of players could ever be good enough to carry the catastrophic burden of Wenger over the line to a title.

If Wenger is sacked today the club has a narrow, narrow opportunity to pull something together for this season. If not, we are actually better off in the long run ensuring Wenger doesn't get anywhere near a chequebook. God only knows what kinds of stunts he might pull in the final hours of the transfer window to deflect criticism.

[selassie]

Good luck to Liverpool, I'm sure Lemar will do well there. We would only stunt his progression anyway under this rotten regime and Wenger and his sabotage mission.

[Power n Glory]

I rather we didn't sign anyone. No more papering over the cracks. A few dickheads out there making excuses for the manager and I hope it becomes unbearable for them to watch just like it's been for the rest of us. We're looking to sell players that have hardly been here for 5 minutes and he he's already misusing and benching players we signed this summer.

[Munchies]

Hope Pool sign him

WUMger :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Hope Pool sign him

WUMger :haha:

Yes, we are in for Arsenio who desperately wants to give up his rising star status in Madrid and join up with Wenger. Draxler is also bashing down our door. All true, all real, any day now they will be signing.

[Marc Overmars]

I'd laugh if Liverpool get him. :lol:

[rodders]

He won't come here!!! Only an idiot would in the current circumstances

[Niall_Quinn]

He won't come here!!! Only an idiot would in the current circumstances

We don't need him anyway. Arsenio and Mbappe and Draxler and Mahrez are all coming.

[Bumble]

We don't need him anyway. Arsenio and Mbappe and Draxler and Mahrez are all coming.

who is arsenio? thought he was a comedian.... or is that just arsene.

[Niall_Quinn]

who is arsenio? thought he was a comedian.... or is that just arsene.

Rising star at Real Madrid. Hugely talented player by all reports, although I haven't seen much of him personally so it could be all hype. One day he may be good enough to play for us.

[Özim]

Yes, we are in for Arsenio who desperately wants to give up his rising star status in Madrid and join up with Wenger. Draxler is also bashing down our door. All true, all real, any day now they will be signing.
We'll snap up Mbappe, our number 1 target apparently.

[hobson's choice]

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[selassie]

Been reading in various places today that talks are ongoing between Monaco and Liverpool for Lemar. Looks like this one really could happen. Also been reading that Lemar is their first choice and if they don't get him they will go for Ox.

[Letters]

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:gp:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

All in all, not looking good for Dicks and Chicks.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't get any of this thread now. No idea what the last few posting mean or refer to.

This is why I should be made an admin, btw.