Liverpool vs Arsenal Sun 27th Aug 16:00 Sky Sports Premier League

[Niall_Quinn]

First of all, Sky Sports 1, 2, 3 and 4 was a lot fucking easier than Sky Sports Premier League, Sky Sports Main Event and Sky Sports Angling and Caravan Rallying. Dickheads!

Meanwhile, Le Cock announces Alexis will be fit to play but, man of mystery (the main mystery being how he's still got a job), is keeping us guessing as to whether he'll start. Perhaps Alexis hasn't told him yet.


'He is working hard, is focused and is giving everything. It's always difficult to stop him. He looks ready, he's not played for a long time. I have to decide what to do with him, but he's ready to play.'


'He's not too much disturbed by the noises. Players of his level are used to it now. I'm sure he's not too bothered by that. He's always focused, very happy.
'Just because he goes into the last year of his contract doesn't mean we don't have the chance to extend it. We don't like to look at the individual contracts of everybody.'



Jesus, what a dick.

Prediction: 4-1, game over within the first 20 minutes.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Liverpool defend about as well as we do

Is Koscielny back. If we can avoid playing Bellerin at left wing back. Replace Welbeck with someone who can actually convert chances like Sanchez and we've got a chance of getting a result.

[GP]

0-3

Ozil hat-trick of assists for Senderos.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

4-3 to one or the other.

[Xhaka Can’t]

4-3 to one or the other.

Stop sitting on the fence!

Will Liverpool get 4 in the first half or vice versa?

[selassie]

I think we'll lose 4-2. We will score, but they are going to blitz through our defence.

[AFC Leveller]

4-1. Mane to get the first and Firminho the 2nd just before half time.

Salah and Mane again. Laca will get a consolation in the 81st minute.

[hobson's choice]

Very simple, we play Ramsey in the central midfield spot. We will be fortunate to get a draw.

[Niall_Quinn]

Very simple, we play Ramsey in the central midfield spot. We will fortunate to get a draw.

Look on the bright side. We may play Ramsey in that spot, but he'll never be there.

[fakeyank]

3-1 loss

[Andreas_AFC]

1-1

[Xhaka Can’t]

4-1. Mane to get the first and Firminho the 2nd just before half time.

Salah and Mane again. Laca will get a consolation in the 81st minute.

We'll need goals by then.

No way Laca is on the pitch.

[Niall_Quinn]

We'll need goals by then.

No way Laca is on the pitch.

Why would Laca not be on the pitch if we need goals? Only a moron would...

Wait...

[Niall_Quinn]

Has cuntface dropped Lacazette for this game?

Can't be true can it?

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Karius, Gomez, Lovren, Matip, Moreno, Henderson, Can, Wijnaldum, Mané, Salah, Firmino
Subs: Ward, Klavan, Alexander-Arnold, Grujic, Milner, Solanke, Sturridge.

Cech, Monreal, Koscielny, Holding, Ox, Xhaka, Ramsey, Bellerin, Sanchez, Ozil, Welbeck
Subs: Ospina, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Coquelin, Walcott,Giroud, Lacazette,

Mignolet compeletely binned off for some reason.
Moreno :ilt:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPdXdlXoAAtgSR.jpg

WUMger. :haha:

[Power n Glory]

Has cuntface dropped Lacazette for this game?

Can't be true can it?
It is true.

What a fucking idiot.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yep. The fucking tool is persisting with Monreal in the centre, he's sat our record signing on the bench and stuck with Welbeck. Kolasinac benched too.

Arsenal

33Cech
16Holding
6Koscielny
18Monreal
24Bellerín
8Ramsey
29Xhaka
15Oxlade-Chamberlain
11Özil
7Sánchez
23Welbeck

Substitutes

9Lacazette
12Giroud
13Ospina
14Walcott
20Mustafi
31Kolasinac
34Coquelin

[Niall_Quinn]

So he drops Holding from the squad last week, then brings him in to a game like this? This time it's Merts that has vanished. Mustafi on the fucking bench. If he's leaving the fuck him out of the squad. If he's staying then play him FFS.

What is all this shit about? What is Wenger's agenda here?

[AFC Leveller]

LOL what a joker. Kolasinac is a beast of a player at LWB yet he plays a right footed right winger in there! leaves Lacazette on the bench as well.

2 more years at least....

[RomfordPele]

Wow. Contrary old bastard. Drops both our signings!

[Munchies]

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

We have Lacazette, Alexis, Giroud and even Theo who can score goals. So he starts Welbeck who is notorious for missing them?

[Munchies]

Will we ever see Lacazette again?

[Niall_Quinn]

Here's the thing - if the team somehow pulls out a result here despite the fucking cunt of a manager we are afflicted with, the cunt will step in and take the credit. Every time the team sets foot on a pitch they carry the crushing weight of this incompetent bastard with them.

[Munchies]

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[AFC Leveller]

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[hobson's choice]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIPdXdlXoAAtgSR.jpg

WUMger. :haha:

:lol::lol:

[hobson's choice]

I feel for Xhaka today, poor guy. He's gonna be playing 3 against 1:(:(

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbz better have his shooting scuff the ball and somehow supply an assist boots on today.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maybe it's Alexis starting in the middle. Has to be. Welbeck will be wide.

Surely?

[AFC Leveller]

I feel for Xhaka today, poor guy. He's gonna be playing 3 against 1:(:(

They have 3 solid CMs and will dominate Xhaka and Ramsay (if hes ever in midfield that is).

just cant understand what this manager is thinking.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has said Lacazette is still in the transition phase and that... get ready for this... we finished strongly with this three at the end of last season so that's why the stupid cunt has picked them.

[Penguin]

Lacazette benched for Welbz?

Welcome to the shit show, Alexandre :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger wasn't asked and didn't say why he's not picked Kolasinac or Mustafi.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Sky lot, instead of all calling Wenger a massive stupid incompetent cunt, are wondering if Ozil should be playing :doh:

They've just given Wenger a free pass. I don't know what Wenger has on them all but it must be hugely damaging.

[Munchies]

can't wait for us to lose

[hobson's choice]

They have 3 solid CMs and will dominate Xhaka and Ramsay (if hes ever in midfield that is).

just cant understand what this manager is thinking.

Ramsey as a player represents every that's wrong with Arsenal at the moment.

A luxury player, who is nowhere near luxury player quality. And has no interest in improving his game, and wanting to be a better football player, he just wants to score.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Can't miss out on hearing YNWA for the 984083439439499th time.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Welbeck hat trick incoming then.

[Niall_Quinn]

God, do we have to sit through the whole of Jog On - again?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great turn from Alexis. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Salah puts it way wide.

Can header, way wide

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbeck hacks it clear. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh fucking hell. Either that was a pen or a ridiculous miss.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a save from Cech to deny Salah!

[Niall_Quinn]

So it's Ramsey playing as the central striker and Welbz wide?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Holding sorting Mane out.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 Firmino.

[Niall_Quinn]

Assist from Xhaka again.

The defence had a good view of that goal, as they were sipping their tea.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just sleeping through it.

[hobson's choice]

Xhaka gotta go, Cech is done

Thank God, Henderson is such a donkey

[Niall_Quinn]

Look at the way Liverpool have been drilled in their tactics compared to our random play.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lovren booked.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Karius. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

On another day we'd already be out of this. So, so, so predictable.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbeck booked.

[RomfordPele]

How many more goals does xhaka have to give away before he gets hooked?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbz's left eye is closing after getting smashed by Lovren.

[Penguin]

Moreno kicks Welbeck and Welbeck gets booked for it :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gomez booked.

Another cynical scrote.

[Niall_Quinn]

Horrible cheating by Moreno. The ref laps it up.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I fucking hate Wenger with the fire of 1000 red giant suns obliterating the planet.

[hobson's choice]

Wow watching this makes me miss the Denilson and Song pairing.:scarf:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cech saves from Salah.

[Niall_Quinn]

Golden rule. Never ever play it forwards when there's a backwards pass on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Disallowed goal for Salah.

[Niall_Quinn]

Just realised, Bellerin is on the left again :haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Just realised, Bellerin is on the left again :haha:

He would probably be better in goal.

[AFC Leveller]

Seen this so many times before, we go to Anfield and look like we have never played together. 0 tactical awareness, 0 organisation, 0 discipline!

What the fuck does this manager do all week? can we at least try look solid for once FFS

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has to act fast in the 79th minute to deal with the massive mismatch on the left.

[Penguin]

Our defending is a joke.

[AFC Leveller]

Just realised, Bellerin is on the left again :haha:

Hes trying to confuse Liverpool but hes actually confused his own players.

[Gooner23]

Ramsey is an absolute joke of a player. We are a fucking shambles, lead by the biggest fraud in the business.

[AFC Leveller]

Any bets for the 2nd goal? i think 42nd minute.

[Niall_Quinn]

Neville giving hell to all our players but doesn't have the balls to say a word about Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

Any bets for the 2nd goal? i think 42nd minute.

33rd

[hobson's choice]

Lee Dixon sounds so irritated on the commentary. One of the few pundits that actually has knowledge.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our defending is a joke.

That's an old joke.

[Penguin]

Xhaka :haha:

[hobson's choice]

We don't have a midfield at all

[Penguin]

We don't have a midfield at all

We don't have anything, apart from Sanchez. For now at least.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Offside from a freekick. FFS.

[Niall_Quinn]

Neville really can't seem to grasp that the cunt Wenger is the MANAGER of this shambles. What the fuck does he mean when he says the cunt Wenger won't believe what he's seeing? Why the fuck not? This is the cunt Wenger's team and the cunt Wenger's tactics. Seen over and over and over again, hundreds of times.

Why does the whole football world cover for the cunt Wenger?

[crashley]

This is fucking dire.
More dire than muggy old Danny Dyer, fucking gimpy Kieron Dyer, plus a bit of Eric Dier, wrapped up with some Dire Straits.
Absolute dog shit!

[AFC Leveller]

Xhaka...you moron! This guy seriously needs a slap.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 Mane.

[Özim]

The clown does it again!

[Niall_Quinn]

Game over.

I said 4-1 but haven't a fucking clue where a goal for us might be coming from.

[fakeyank]

I officially hate Wenger more than Mourinho.

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[Niall_Quinn]

The cunt Wenger did this to Coquelin against Utd in the 8-2. Now he's doing it to Holding. Bring the kid in to a big game in a shambles of a randomised defence that the cunt Wenger has chopped and changed at every opportunity.

[Niall_Quinn]

If this doesn't convince the cunt Wenger to call Kallstrom before the transfer deadline, nothing will.

[Niall_Quinn]

Xhaka booked. Red today?

[Gooner23]

The cunt Wenger did this to Coquelin against Utd in the 8-2. Now he's doing it to Holding. Bring the kid in to a big game in a shambles of a randomised defence that the cunt Wenger has chopped and changed at every opportunity.

The defence is bad, but what hope do they have with no midfield in front of them.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Looks like there is a massive crease in the pitch.

[Niall_Quinn]

The defence is bad, but what hope do they have with no midfield in front of them.

Yes, but we do have Welbz up front.

[hobson's choice]

We have a midfield that hasn't won 1 ball today.

Xhaka clearly wants to get sent off

[Niall_Quinn]

At least Carragher mentions we've been watching this year after year.

[RomfordPele]

Xhaka booked. Red today?

Hope so. Might have a chance of winning the next game if he's suspended.

All problems start with xhaka (via the silly bugger who selects him obviously).

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-0 HT. Competitive and the ideal scoreline.

[Penguin]

Look at Wenger scratching his head wondering what's going wrong.

He's probably trying to think of his excuses for the post match interview.

[hobson's choice]

The defence is bad, but what hope do they have with no midfield in front of them.

Its so easy to get ball from defense to our penalty area. Just 2/3 passes.

[Niall_Quinn]

2-0 HT. Competitive and the ideal scoreline.

We need some massive spirits - a quadruple Scotch at least.

Great togetherness tbf. We were all equally shit.

We lacked little bit qualiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee in the final third - for some strange reason.

[Özim]

Horrible overrated team, horrible overrated manager.

Getting what we should expect with a 2nd rate defence and having to rely on strikers that can't shoot like Welbeck.

[RomfordPele]

Almost 100% full strength squad to choose from - a squad that he feels doesn't need strengthening - and this is what the Mad Hatter serves up.

Genuine question: do you think he can survive the next 2 years? Surely there will be a point when it becomes untenable?

[Özim]

Almost 100% full strength squad to choose from - a squad that he feels doesn't need strengthening - and this is what the Mad Hatter serves up.

Genuine question: do you think he can survive the next 2 years? Surely there will be a point when it becomes untenable?

It doesn't need strengthening, if you're happy being 2nd rate.

He'll survive and he'll think he's done a great job whatever the outcome. Probably offer himself a new contract too.

[Gooner23]

Its so easy to get ball from defense to our penalty area. Just 2/3 passes.

You see Ramseys position for the their first goal? Somewhere over on the right wing, back to play talking to someone on the bench. Genuinely pub league stuff.

Xhaka is a terrible signing. Can't run or tackle and any pressure on him he loses composure on the ball.

[Niall_Quinn]

Actually I'm here laughing because this is such a huge joke now.

Every week. Same mistakes. Over and over and over and over again. And the bloke keeps on getting a contract.

We're going to end up making a profit in this transfer window :haha:

The cunt Wenger actually said before the game he'd picked this SHIT lineup because it was strong at the end of last season - the season where he suffered his worst ever finish :haha:

:haha:

:rolleyes:

:d

:haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Individually some of the best talent we've ever had but collectively as a team the worst we've ever been. A manager who's turned a bunch of really talented players and made them worse somehow.

Fuck off Wenger.

Also I hate Gary Neville. Going on about how Arsenal fans should be fuming yet he's the biggest champion of Wenger around.

[hobson's choice]

You see Ramseys position for the their first goal? Somewhere over on the right wing, back to play talking to someone on the bench. Genuinely pub league stuff.

Xhaka is a terrible signing. Can't run or tackle and any pressure on him he loses composure on the ball.


And for the 2nd goal, where they cut right through the middle, he was in the central striker position.

You can't make this stuff up:banghead:

[Niall_Quinn]

Almost 100% full strength squad to choose from - a squad that he feels doesn't need strengthening - and this is what the Mad Hatter serves up.

Genuine question: do you think he can survive the next 2 years? Surely there will be a point when it becomes untenable?

At any other club he'd have no chance whatsoever of surviving another moment. No way would have got anywhere near this far. He'd have been sacked YEARS ago.

But, Stan's probably sitting there thinking we just need a field goal to get back into this. So he won't be worried. And the cunt Wenger will be making him another fat profit. So all is good.

[Niall_Quinn]

Individually some of the best talent we've ever had but collectively as a team the worst we've ever been. A manager who's turned a bunch of really talented players and made them worse somehow.

Fuck off Wenger.

Also I hate Gary Neville. Going on about how Arsenal fans should be fuming yet he's the biggest champion of Wenger around.

It's obscene. What a coward the bloke is.

[Özim]

Xhaka is a terrible signing. Can't run or tackle and any pressure on him he loses composure on the ball.

One of the worst signings ever in terms of value for money, what was it 33 million for this chump, his former club must have een Wenger coming from a mile away and fleeced him big time!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's not the players - it's the manager. What the fuck does he do in training all week because it's clear we're completely clueless when it comes to what to do when we don't have the ball.

As bad as Ramsey has played there's no way that Jordon fucking Henderson is a better player. It's just Klopp actually teaches his players how to play in his desired system whereas Wenger leaves our clowns to our own devices. No wonder everyone wants to leave.

[dostoy]

The thing is, you all know beforehand what is going to happen so why do you continue to bother watching/supporting Arsenal.

I watched the first 15 minutes of the match and Arsenal could not get out of their own half and I felt nothing at all when the inevitable happened.

It literally makes no difference to me if they win or lose.

There are 2 things that have to happen to get Wenger out, Arsenal must lose heavily as often as possible and when they play at home there has to be tens of thousands of empty seats.

Arsenal are shit and will be for years yet so why bother, why put yourself through it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ramsey off, Coquelin on.

Bit late now.

[Penguin]

And for the 2nd goal, where they cut right through the middle, he was in the central striker position.

You can't make this stuff up:banghead:

It's so simple. Basic positioning and how to pick safe times to make a forward run. At another club he would have been taught those things seven years ago or been sold off to a mid table championship team if he couldn't get it through his skull. Wenger lets him do it for 10 years and fuck us over time and time again.

Wenger :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Coquelin on for Ramsey. Will make no difference at all because Liverpool will just go back to the mismatch on the left.

[Penguin]

The thing is, you all know beforehand what is going to happen so why do you continue to bother watching/supporting Arsenal.

I watched the first 15 minutes of the match and Arsenal could not get out of their own half and I felt nothing at all when the inevitable happened.

It literally makes no difference to me if they win or lose.

There are 2 things that have to happen to get Wenger out, Arsenal must lose heavily as often as possible and when they play at home there has to be tens of thousands of empty seats.

Arsenal are shit and will be for years yet so why bother, why put yourself through it.

Because we're Arsenal fans? :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

The thing is, you all know beforehand what is going to happen so why do you continue to bother watching/supporting Arsenal.

I watched the first 15 minutes of the match and Arsenal could not get out of their own half and I felt nothing at all when the inevitable happened.

It literally makes no difference to me if they win or lose.

There are 2 things that have to happen to get Wenger out, Arsenal must lose heavily as often as possible and when they play at home there has to be tens of thousands of empty seats.

Arsenal are shit and will be for years yet so why bother, why put yourself through it.

Why were you watching it to begin with?

[Power n Glory]

Ozil's shot. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Fucking SHOOT Mesut FFS!

We've gone to a back 4. Still with players out of position but at least that should shut down Salad a bit.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The thing is, you all know beforehand what is going to happen so why do you continue to bother watching/supporting Arsenal.

I watched the first 15 minutes of the match and Arsenal could not get out of their own half and I felt nothing at all when the inevitable happened.

It literally makes no difference to me if they win or lose.

There are 2 things that have to happen to get Wenger out, Arsenal must lose heavily as often as possible and when they play at home there has to be tens of thousands of empty seats.

Arsenal are shit and will be for years yet so why bother, why put yourself through it.

Because being a football fan means you stick through the bad times as well as the good times otherwise we're no better than the glory hunters that used to support United when they dominated things.

[RomfordPele]

It's not the players - it's the manager. What the fuck does he do in training all week because it's clear we're completely clueless when it comes to what to do when we don't have the ball.

As bad as Ramsey has played there's no way that Jordon fucking Henderson is a better player. It's just Klopp actually teaches his players how to play in his desired system whereas Wenger leaves our clowns to our own devices. No wonder everyone wants to leave.

It's both. Great players flourish despite the clown in charge. These aren't great players. Most of them seem more interested in the hairdo than their footballing development.

I won't be crying into my cornflakes whoever leaves this week, except maybe Sanchez.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mesut giving them a kicking. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Karius to salvation.

[Niall_Quinn]

It was CRAAAAAAZEEEEEEE to imagine Wenger could make a new system work. Now just go back to a left back on the left, 2 CBS and a right back on the right. Keep things very very simple for this idiot.

[Niall_Quinn]

We're 2 down away and Wenger has a 50 mill striker sat on the bench.

No. It's real.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Obviously not a corner.

[Penguin]

We're 2 down away and Wenger has a 50 mill striker sat on the bench.

No. It's real.

Don't worry he'll bring him for Sanchez on the 70 minute mark when we're 3-0 down. And he'll be on the left wing with Giroud upfront.

4-3 anybody?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Salah should've made it 3-0.

Terrible from Monreal.

[Niall_Quinn]

Corner :haha:

The officials are as competent as Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's a very simple concept. If we'd sacked Wenger and brought in Klopp when he was available, we may not be winning titles by now but at least we'd have a credible team.

[dostoy]

Because I watch football whoever it is now.

I don't care who wins and who loses, its purely for entertainment.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bellerin. :haha:

3-0.

[Penguin]

Because I watch football whoever it is now.

I don't care who wins and who loses, its purely for entertainment.

Then why are you posting on an Arsenal forum?

[dostoy]

Because being a football fan means you stick through the bad times as well as the good times otherwise we're no better than the glory hunters that used to support United when they dominated things.

Good luck with that.

You can look forward to years and years of shit under Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our makeshift left back fucked up a bit there.

Maybe we should try him at right back?

Alexis has 6 days to get his arse out the door - at least I assume that's what he's thinking as you watch him look to the heavens.

[dostoy]

Then why are you posting on an Arsenal forum?

Its because I was an Arsenal fan, kind of.

I have never been to an Arsenal game and I never will, I don't live in London and I never cared enough anyway.

[Penguin]

Alexis is looking at the floor shaking his head. Poor guy's getting forced into another year of this shitfest :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Then why are you posting on an Arsenal forum?

Everyone handles the grief of having Wenger as a manager in their own way.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lacazette and Bif coming on.

Alexis and Ox hauled off.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger getting the subs ready :haha:

There are now words left to describe the bloke.

[Niall_Quinn]

Lacazette and Bif coming on.

Alexis and Ox hauled off.

Welbeck still on :haha:

:haha:

:haha:

:haha:

:haha:

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

That's Alexis' last game. Sad stuff.

[Globalgunner]

If you really care about this club, you will wish for us to lose every single game until the clueless moron fucks off. If Wenger even wins 1 game in 5, he will claim the other 4 were lost due to bad luck.
Inevitably he will relegate us. No doubt about it whatsoever.

[RomfordPele]

If you really care about this club, you will wish for us to lose every single game until the clueless moron fucks off. If Wenger even wins 1 game in 5, he will claim the other 4 were lost due to bad luck.
Inevitably he will relegate us. No doubt about it whatsoever.

He won't be allowed to relegate us. Stan loves money too much to allow that.

I would not be surprised if he's gone by Xmas though. I don't think the players want him here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Neville thinks it's some invisible man that is causing all the problems at this club.

[dostoy]

How can he not see the problems and how can the board not see how bad he is ?

At any other club in the world, he would have been sacked years ago but at Arsenal the board gave him a new contract 3 months ago and will do again in less than 2 years.

Good luck guys, you will need a lot of it.

[crashley]

struggling to think of worse performance since the Cuntski 6-0

[Globalgunner]

Neville thinks it's some invisible man that is causing all the problems at this club.

Neville looks in the mirror and sees a handsome man

[Penguin]

Its because I was an Arsenal fan, kind of.

I have never been to an Arsenal game and I never will, I don't live in London and I never cared enough anyway.

Oh ok. You aren't a real Arsenal fan then, not because you don't go to games but because you don't care about the club. Nothing wrong with that, there are plenty of people who are fans of football in general but who don't follow a specific club.

I still don't get why you're bothering to post on an Arsenal forum just to tell real Arsenal fans to stop supporting the club though?

[crashley]

although to be fair I didn't see the West Brom or Palace defeats last season


struggling to think of worse performance since the Cuntski 6-0

[Niall_Quinn]

We lacked little bit sharpness in final third. Little bit qualiteeeee was lacking.

We lacked little bit energy after tough game at Stoke.

We must not look at this game, only the next game.

If we can do something in the transfer window we will do it [snigger]

There were many positives today also. We showed great spirit and togetherness and we must use that to bounce back.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nearly 4-0.

[Globalgunner]

Oh ok. You aren't a real Arsenal fan then, not because you don't go to games but because you don't care about the club. Nothing wrong with that, there are plenty of people who are fans of football in general but who don't follow a specific club.

I still don't get why you're bothering to post on an Arsenal forum just to tell real Arsenal fans to stop supporting the club though?

The are no real Arsenal fans.....There are realistic ones though.

[Niall_Quinn]

Could be 5 or 6 today tbf. If this was a horse race our nag would have been shot dead by now.

[Penguin]

Holding is picking up all the bad habits all our defenders seem to learn when they join us.

[Niall_Quinn]

Morena has finally injured himself kicking our players.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sturridge coming on for a +1

[hobson's choice]

Sturridgr will score

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-0 Sturridge.

[RomfordPele]

Another couple and even Wenger won't be able to avoid crowbarring open the chequebook...

[Globalgunner]

Easy Peasy Sturridge makes it 4. Meanwhile we huff and Puff for 90 mins and cant blow up a kids balloon.

[Niall_Quinn]

Sturridge gets his goal. May be the only one he gets this season. But it's us.

4-0

[Dicks and chicks]

Lacazette must be feeling like an idiot

[Niall_Quinn]

Another couple and even Wenger won't be able to avoid crowbarring open the chequebook...

Who should we sign? Another Xhaka? Another Mustafi? Chambers? Welbeck? Kallstrom? Sanogo?

We're probably better off if he keeps the chequebook closed because he'll never write a big enough cheque to make a blind bit of difference. Besides, he's play Messi in goal if we bought him.

[Globalgunner]

At least Micheal Owen will be happy...
In the meantime..... Wenger blames it all on schoolboy defending

[Penguin]

The are no real Arsenal fans.....There are realistic ones though.

Is a realistic fan someone who admits he doesn't support Arsenal, doesn't watch Arsenal games but comes on an Arsenal forum to tell Arsenal fans to stop supporting Arsenal? :unsure:

[Niall_Quinn]

Another humiliation for Wenger's extensive and growing catalogue.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's both. Great players flourish despite the clown in charge. These aren't great players. Most of them seem more interested in the hairdo than their footballing development.

I won't be crying into my cornflakes whoever leaves this week, except maybe Sanchez.

Nah I strongly disagree. Klopp, Pochettino or Mourinho with our squad would get them at least challenging for the league and winning it a few times.

Sanchez is a world class talent.
A motivated Ozil is a world class talent.
Despite Zim's hate boner for him, Xhaka was one of the highest rated players in the Bundesliga when we signed him.
Ramsey has talent but needs coaching.
Kosicienly is a beast of a CB on his day.

etc etc etc

The talent is there and there's no way Liverpool's team is man for man better. I mean Wjnanldum ....... ffs he got relegated with Newcastle. It's just Klopp actually coaches his team and buys players because he has a specific purpose for them as opposes to Wenger who just stockpiles talented players doesn't have a clue what to then do.

[RomfordPele]

For once, just once, could the after match interviewer do their fucking job and nail Wenger today.

[Niall_Quinn]

Theo needs to organise another secret meeting with the players to clear the air. And then Merts needs to tell us about it in the papers.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Theo needs to organise another secret meeting with the players to clear the air. And then Merts needs to tell us about it in the papers.

I laugh but I fully expect to read a story about a "players meeting" this coming week.

Sigh ..... so much for the Jens influence in the squad.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2017/8/27/34a78fa4-9b57-4c5c-908b-2c41c6d4ea73.jpg

:lol:

[RomfordPele]

Nah I strongly disagree. Klopp, Pochettino or Mourinho with our squad would get them at least challenging for the league and winning it a few times.

Sanchez is a world class talent.
A motivated Ozil is a world class talent.
Despite Zim's hate boner for him, Xhaka was one of the highest rated players in the Bundesliga when we signed him.
Ramsey has talent but needs coaching.
Kosicienly is a beast of a CB on his day.

etc etc etc

The talent is there and there's no way Liverpool's team is man for man better. I mean Wjnanldum ....... ffs he got relegated with Newcastle. It's just Klopp actually coaches his team and buys players because he has a specific purpose for them as opposes to Wenger who just stockpiles talented players doesn't have a clue what to then do.

Oh, I think another manager would definitely get MORE out of them.

But I don't think they are great players, save maybe Sanchez.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bif clears Ozil's FK.

[Özim]

Another humiliation for Wenger's extensive and growing catalogue.

He'll brush it off like he always does, nothing ever sticks to this guy.

The amount of humiliations under this bloke honestly, it was almost unheard of before he arrived.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2017/8/27/34a78fa4-9b57-4c5c-908b-2c41c6d4ea73.jpg

:lol:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/89/30/e3/8930e31a26ee7b528a36587d044560b2--monkey-tattoos-three-wise-monkeys.jpg

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Oh, I think another manager would definitely get MORE out of them.

But I don't think they are great players, save maybe Sanchez.

But you only really need one of two great players in a team to win the league. You just need a competent first XI and manger to compliment them.

Chelsea had Hazard & Costa in the years they won it. Citeh with Aguero & Yaya. Leicester with Vardy & Mahrez etc etc

[Power n Glory]

Bif clears Ozil's FK.

Look for the chance creation stat end of the game and see if says Ozil created a million chances. ;)

[Niall_Quinn]

Look for the chance creation stat end of the game and see if says Ozil created a million chances. ;)

:doh:

Don't tell me you treat Neville seriously?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

4-0 FT.

[Niall_Quinn]

I thought we would score - I was wrong, I was wrong.

[Niall_Quinn]

An absolutely NOTHING performance.

How could anyone have seen that coming?

[Özim]

5th from bottom

[Power n Glory]

:doh:

Don't tell me you treat Neville seriously?

Seriously, look up the stats.

[Globalgunner]

5th from bottom

Its early days yet...Who do we play next. Huddersfield, Brighton.....We can yet hit peak bottom

[Penguin]

But you only really need one of two great players in a team to win the league. You just need a competent first XI and manger to compliment them.

Chelsea had Hazard & Costa in the years they won it. Citeh with Aguero & Yaya. Leicester with Vardy & Mahrez etc etc

Yep agree with that. United have won titles with Darren Fletcher and John O'Shea playing regularly FFS, if any proof was ever needed :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

5th from bottom

Bounce back, bounce back, bounce back, bounce back...

Bounce back, bounce back, bounce back, bounce back...

Bounce back, bounce back, bounce back, bounce back...

Bounce back, bounce back, bounce back, bounce back...

Bounce back, bounce back, bounce back, bounce back...

Little bit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Seriously, look up the stats.

When they are published I will. They'll show he ran more than anyone, made as many challenges as anyone in the forward line and completed more passes than anyone except perhaps Xhaka. Same as usual. But if you are seriously trying to pin a disjointed nightmare like that on one player then you've let your agenda consume you.

[Power n Glory]

When they are published I will. They'll show he ran more than anyone, made as many challenges as anyone in the forward line and completed more passes than anyone except perhaps Xhaka. Same as usual. But if you are seriously trying to pin a disjointed nightmare like that on one player then you've let your agenda consume you.

My agenda against shit performances. Yes that will always consume me.

[Niall_Quinn]

My agenda against shit performances. Yes that will always consume me.

No, your anti-Ozil agenda that you bring up no matter what else is happening.

[RomfordPele]

But you only really need one of two great players in a team to win the league. You just need a competent first XI and manger to compliment them.

Chelsea had Hazard & Costa in the years they won it. Citeh with Aguero & Yaya. Leicester with Vardy & Mahrez etc etc

It's the spine that matters most. Ours has never been strong enough since the Invincibles, and certainly isn't now.

I don't rate xhaka at all, not as a prem player. Koscielny has always been inconsistent. Ramsey lacks positional sense. Cech is too old now. And I'm really not 100% sold on any of our front men, though haven't seen enough of lacazette to pass judgement. It's just not enough.

I was really hoping for a major overhaul this summer to rethink the side, but should've known better with the old goat in charge that was never going to happen. But I genuinely don't think any manager in the world would win the league with our current squad.

We are a good 3-4 players short of being remotely competitive.

[Munchies]

Liverpool actually kept a clean sheet!

[Power n Glory]

No, your anti-Ozil agenda that you bring up no matter what else is happening.

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll a few stats to say he was our best player.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's the spine that matters most. Ours has never been strong enough since the Invincibles, and certainly isn't now.

I don't rate xhaka at all, not as a prem player. Koscielny has always been inconsistent. Ramsey lacks positional sense. Cech is too old now. And I'm really not 100% sold on any of our front men, though haven't seen enough of lacazette to pass judgement. It's just not enough.

I was really hoping for a major overhaul this summer to rethink the side, but should've known better with the old goat in charge that was never going to happen. But I genuinely don't think any manager in the world would win the league with our current squad.

We are a good 3-4 players short of being remotely competitive.

Lacazette looks quite competent. But it won't make any difference.

The top managers go and buy a whole new spine when the squad goes stale. Wenger just digs in and adds pointless frills around the edges. He's a fool, a genuine fool.

[Niall_Quinn]

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll a few stats to say he was our best player.

Nobody said anything about him being the best player today, except you. But, in an absolute shambles that has absolutely nothing to do with him, he was far from the worst. You're expecting one player to somehow draw together a shambles like that and make something of it. It's so unreasonable and unrealistic it's crazy to be even talking about it.

[Power n Glory]

It's the spine that matters most. Ours has never been strong enough since the Invincibles, and certainly isn't now.

I don't rate xhaka at all, not as a prem player. Koscielny has always been inconsistent. Ramsey lacks positional sense. Cech is too old now. And I'm really not 100% sold on any of our front men, though haven't seen enough of lacazette to pass judgement. It's just not enough.

I was really hoping for a major overhaul this summer to rethink the side, but should've known better with the old goat in charge that was never going to happen. But I genuinely don't think any manager in the world would win the league with our current squad.

We are a good 3-4 players short of being remotely competitive.

Xhaka has been a huge mistake. We already know that Ramsey just bombs forward with no common sense. Xhaka falls into that same bracket because he'll bomb forward to try and tackle instead of holding up the play. Ozil is just overrated but people aren't ready to hear that. Need a major shakeup with all three out of the line up.

[RomfordPele]

Xhaka has been a huge mistake. We already know that Ramsey just bombs forward with no common sense. Xhaka falls into that same bracket because he'll bomb forward to try and tackle instead of holding up the play. Ozil is just overrated but people aren't ready to hear that. Need a major shakeup with all three out of the line up.

Xhaka has been a massive problem. A good manager would spot that and spend this week digging deep to find an alternative in the market. Wenger won't. If we do anything, we will panic buy another light weight, creative player like draxler or mahrez which won't solve the problem. Although I suspect Wenger, stubborn goat that he is, will dig in and stick to the line that his wonderful squad is perfect and doesn't need strengthening.

[Munchies]

Wenger: "The result is a consequence of our performance which wasn't good enough."
Wenger: "It was a very disappointing performance. Of course it was shocking but the performance on the day was disastrous."
Wenger: "There are some reasons behind it [the defeat] which we have to analyse. The emotions are big and very negative."

[Power n Glory]

Nobody said anything about him being the best player today, except you. But, in an absolute shambles that has absolutely nothing to do with him, he was far from the worst. You're expecting one player to somehow draw together a shambles like that and make something of it. It's so unreasonable and unrealistic it's crazy to be even talking about it.

Just trying to sense what you felt about his performance early on before being accused of being influenced by the media. When those 15,000 chances created stats start floating around, all perspective is lost on Ozil's performance.

[AFC Leveller]

4-1. Mane to get the first and Firminho the 2nd just before half time.

Salah and Mane again. Laca will get a consolation in the 81st minute.

Told you so!

3 scorers out of 4 aint bad, although as Wenger says, no need to overreact after just one result.

[Niall_Quinn]

Told you so!

3 scorers out of 4 aint bad, although as Wenger says, no need to overreact after just one result.

I knew Wenger would pick the wrong team and have players out of position and do nothing tactically to account for Liverpool's strengths. That much is a given. So we were always going to concede plenty of goals. I was tempted to go with 6 because I knew how bad we'd be set up, an ideal opponent for Liverpool like raw meat chucked into a shark tank. That's how Wenger likes to do it. So his incompetence and insanity was routinely predictable, although I admit he got me with the Lacazette and Kolasinac WUMming. You think of the worst possibility and then Wenger finds a way to top it. He's inventive that way, I give him that much.

What I couldn't predict was how toothless we'd be against Liverpool's notoriously leaky defence. We ended up with zero shots on target. I'd have been accused of being deliberately over-negative and hysterical if I'd predicated that. This is a team with Alexis, Ozil, and under any normal circumstances Lacazette firing the bullets. So Wenger defuses that by selecting Welbeck. Somebody said "sabotage" and it does seem like that. But in reality it's extreme incompetence and some sort of mental impairment. Wenger is not well, he has a major problem and somebody at the club should be stepping up to help him and get him the help he needs. I'm actually starting to feel sorry for the guy, even though he deserves no sympathy at all given his choice to sign that contract.

I don't blame Welbeck either. Last time we played Liverpool everyone was saying Welbeck had to play, because he looked our only bright spark at that particular time. All the players could do more, but look at the impossible odds they face with a manager who keeps on finding tried and tested as well as new and surprising ways to fuck things up. Alexis, Ozil, Ox, the club keeps raising the bribe for them to stay but they aren't stupid.

It's a mess. But it's not a surprise. We have been getting to this performance for a long time and the writing has been scrawled over every wall. Wenger can't take the blame alone. WTF are the dickheads supposedly in authority at this place doing? Raking in money, yes. But what else? They've even stopped feeding their golden goose. We're about to make a profit in a transfer window where it was so essential we showed some ambition. And they call this shit "sustainable"? Not for much longer. This ship is going under.

[AFC Leveller]

De Boer set to be sacked after just 3 games.

Clubs showing ruthlessness and ambition!

[Penguin]

Xhaka has been a huge mistake. We already know that Ramsey just bombs forward with no common sense. Xhaka falls into that same bracket because he'll bomb forward to try and tackle instead of holding up the play. Ozil is just overrated but people aren't ready to hear that. Need a major shakeup with all three out of the line up.


It's stupid how often Xhaka dives into tackles he can't win. It's because he knows it's so easy to pass around him when our midfield is outnumbered but he gives them an even bigger advantage by doing it.

Honestly his passing isn't even that great and that's supposed to be his best asset! I was expecting a Xabi Alonso esque range of passing but technically Xhaka's nowhere near him.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's stupid how often Xhaka dives into tackles he can't win. It's because he knows it's so easy to pass around him when our midfield is outnumbered but he gives them an even bigger advantage by doing it.

Honestly his passing isn't even that great and that's supposed to be his best asset! I was expecting a Xabi Alonso esque range of passing but technically Xhaka's nowhere near him.

As with all our players, they'd be putting in much better performances under a competent manager. As you say, his total exposure in the midfield leads him to desperate measures on too many occasions. Wenger is setting him, and every other player, up to fail. Of course these players should have a bit more about them, but there really is a huge amount to deal with when Wenger is calling the misfires. I still think back to a couple of games where it was hinted the players themselves ignored Wenger and set their own game plan. We destroyed good opposition on both occasions. But none of that can be confirmed, although even Wenger himself did hint it was true on one occasion. And maybe that's all we can hope for now. Wenger stays on, that's happening anyway, he gets his money and he gets to parade around the place being in charge. But the players themselves find a way to set up on match day. Something has to happen and it won't be Wenger who pulls this back together. He's entirely incapable.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

De Boer set to be sacked after just 3 games.

Clubs showing ruthlessness and ambition!

Is it?. Or is it just panicking

Their start to the season has been horrific but you'd think after three games there's more to it than just the results