Farce Reaction - Liverpool 4-0 Arsenal

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger out.

[Niall_Quinn]

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[Niall_Quinn]

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[Globalgunner]

NQ You are too harsh. At least order a limo

[Chippy]

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Kill the wanker then send for the black ambulance.

[Dial Square Old Boy]

Arsenal as good / bad now as they were in 1974-75. Not a shot on target. Not one. Laughable.

[Chippy]

Wenger out.

Burnley's equaliser at least cheered us up!

[Niall_Quinn]

We won possession :bow:

[Dial Square Old Boy]

We won possession :bow:

And that's the key one, eh?

[Marc Overmars]

Fundamentally, this team is appalling.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Depressing.

We've got two more years of this shite as we all know the board (i.e. Kronke) aren't going to fire him.

I expect there's going to be a response and we'll put in a few good performances in the upcoming games but as usual it'd be masking the real problems at the club.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger claiming we started to dominate the game in the second half, then conceded a goal and had to chase the game.

DELUSIONAL.

He needs to be taken to a mental hospital.

[Munchies]

Wenger: "The result is a consequence of our performance which wasn't good enough."
Wenger: "It was a very disappointing performance. Of course it was shocking but the performance on the day was disastrous."
Wenger: "There are some reasons behind it [the defeat] which we have to analyse. The emotions are big and very negative."

[Munchies]

AW: "That's part of the crowd's feeling. If I'm the problem, I'm the problem. I believe we lose together & we want our fans to be together"

[Niall_Quinn]

Now he's saying it's not the right moment to talk about the performance.

We've done well in the big games up until today - apparently.

Confidence levels have dropped - apparently.

We need to keep focused (FOCUSED?)

We need to come back and give a different level of performance.

We think a lot about transfers but after a performance like that it is not the time to think about transfers.

DELUSIONAL

Get an ambulance.

[Munchies]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/WengerOut?src=tren

trending worldwide

[Niall_Quinn]

SAY HIS NAME NEVILLE!

It's... W E N G E R

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Say it Gary... Go on!

[Niall_Quinn]

Neville: I still want him to stay and I won't change that and I never will. I have the utmost respect. He shows too much loyalty to players, they have let him down, they are not doing it for him. I am certainly not going to stick the knife in. And he has a lovely juicy cock.

[RomfordPele]

Now he's saying it's not the right moment to talk about the performance.

We've done well in the big games up until today - apparently.

Confidence levels have dropped - apparently.

We need to keep focused (FOCUSED?)

We need to come back and give a different level of performance.

We think a lot about transfers but after a performance like that it is not the time to think about transfers.

DELUSIONAL

Get an ambulance.

Not watching but please tell me the interviewer isn't letting him get away with this?

Arsene, do you not feel the team selection is contributing to this loss of confidence - there has been a lot of players shifted about to accommodate certain players?

Arsene, do you think bellerin, in particular, might have been affected by being played on the left - he was at fault for the second goal after all?

Arsene, you claim that this squad has what it takes to compete, does the manner of this defeat not make you question that?

Arsene, do you not come away questioning your decision to drop both your summer signings, who performed well in the two victories early on in the season?

Arsene, fifth from bottom, do you still think this squad is still capable of challenging for the title?

It's not fucking difficult.

[Munchies]

Neville: I still want him to stay and I won't change that and I never will. I have the utmost respect. He shows too much loyalty to players, they have let him down, they are not doing it for him. I am certainly not going to stick the knife in. And he has a lovely juicy cock.

:haha:

[Letters]

:lol:

I tell you, looking up the result, tutting and then getting on with your day is the way forward.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger aside (or preferably out), Klopp is building a fairly decent team there. They were very organised and very decisive going forward. That Salad bloke looked quite good, although he must have been laughing his bollocks off when he saw Bellerin set up behind him and Monreal in front. Only Wenger, eh?

[Power n Glory]

Thank fuck they are tearing into Ramsey's positioning and bombing forwards. Took them long enough.

[Özim]

Awful awful manager, definitely in one of the dark periods of the club, can't remember being so disinterested, bored and disappointed with the club, everything about it is a disaster, the transfers, the contracts, the injuries, the style of football, the quality of the squad, the tactics, youth tem, the results, the manager.

One of the worst clubs to be the unfortunate supporter of, right now it has no redeeming features. It's like asking for something nice for Christmas and getting some cheap copy that falls apart after a few days.

[Power n Glory]

They're starting to look closer at Wenger and Neville can't continue to not speak on the manager. Thankfully, Souness, Henry and Carragher aren't on the same page. As Henry said, it's the manager encouraging Ramsey to run forwards.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Wenger aside (or preferably out), Klopp is building a fairly decent team there. They were very organised and very decisive going forward. That Salad bloke looked quite good, although he must have been laughing his bollocks off when he saw Bellerin set up behind him and Monreal in front. Only Wenger, eh?

I miss the days when Wenger used to buy pacy and powerful forwards like Mane & Salah instead of the technical midgets and incompetents he gets for us. Both of them look like a steal in the current market especially the former.

[Niall_Quinn]

Youth team seems to be the only spark of hope. I've started watching whatever I can find because it's a 1000 times more entertaining. And the way they are playing makes me think Wenger has nothing to do with them, which is great. May not last, but if the old git keeps his nose out some of these kids might develop into very good players. Then, of course, they have to GTFO as fast as they can run.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Neville won't question Wengers position because it would mean having to change his position on not doing so.

You've about as much change on him calling on Wenger to go as Ty

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

That was too easy. Quite sad really, watching Wenger helpless. Though I get the feeling I've said that before.

But yeah, you guys have some proper shite. Welbeck has no business in your team. You looked more solid when you went 4 at the back, but by that time it was over. To go with batshit crazy selection. WTF is Bellerin doing at left wing back? Xhaka thinks he's better than he is. I think Koscielny is a tad overrated, the poor lad Holding was left out to dry, Sanchez was clearly not upto speed and there's no point going through everyone as none of them had a creditable game.

[Munchies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXbWcfs5FHk

[Niall_Quinn]

They're starting to look closer at Wenger and Neville can't continue to not speak on the manager. Thankfully, Souness, Henry and Carragher aren't on the same page. As Henry said, it's the manager encouraging Ramsey to run forwards.

Agree with Henry on that. No way, no way could any player opt to play like that against the wishes of the manager without getting a total arse kicking. It's mostly Wenger. That's how he wants Ramsey to play and it's all a bit unfortunate for the player who is starting to get serious stick again. Although I doubt even Wenger tells him to bomb forward that much. So stupid. We need to go back to the most basic of basics but Wenger is piling complication upon complication as if we are the Harlem Globetrotters of the game.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Neville won't question Wengers position because it would mean having to change his position on not doing so.

You've about as much change on him calling on Wenger to go as Ty

Speaking of Ty, AFTV will be lit tonight.

I expect Robbie is going to get a major payday from the views of opposing fans coming into see the likes of DT and Bludfam rant.

I just hope we get a good Claude vs Ty fight out of it on par with the legendary one last year when we lost to City away. "Don't question my fanbase" ...... indeed.

[Niall_Quinn]

That was too easy. Quite sad really, watching Wenger helpless. Though I get the feeling I've said that before.

But yeah, you guys have some proper shite. Welbeck has no business in your team. You looked more solid when you went 4 at the back, but by that time it was over. To go with batshit crazy selection. WTF is Bellerin doing at left wing back? Xhaka thinks he's better than he is. I think Koscielny is a tad overrated, the poor lad Holding was left out to dry, Sanchez was clearly not upto speed and there's no point going through everyone as none of them had a creditable game.

You seem to be forgetting we beat you on possession.

[Niall_Quinn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXbWcfs5FHk

L O S E R

[Özim]

That was too easy. Quite sad really, watching Wenger helpless. Though I get the feeling I've said that before.

But yeah, you guys have some proper shite. Welbeck has no business in your team. You looked more solid when you went 4 at the back, but by that time it was over. To go with batshit crazy selection. WTF is Bellerin doing at left wing back? Xhaka thinks he's better than he is. I think Koscielny is a tad overrated, the poor lad Holding was left out to dry, Sanchez was clearly not upto speed and there's no point going through everyone as none of them had a creditable game.

No top club would have ever touched Welbeck when he was at Man U, overrated rubbish who can't shoot for toffee, low and behold though Wenger goes and shocks all the fans by paying to have this guy in our team, total incompetence, the guy was the focus of ridicule for all opposing fans.

[Özim]

L O S E R

Best paid loser in the game, he's a specialist in failure.

[Cripps]

Another 35 games to go :faint:

[Cripps]

Depressing.

We've got two more years of this shite as we all know the board (i.e. Kronke) aren't going to fire him.

I expect there's going to be a response and we'll put in a few good performances in the upcoming games but as usual it'd be masking the real problems at the club.

He'll probably sign another contract in 2 years time. The man has nothing in his life apart from football.

How the hell he managed to survive last season with all the fan pressure I'll never know :lol:

[Power n Glory]

Agree with Henry on that. No way, no way could any player opt to play like that against the wishes of the manager without getting a total arse kicking. It's mostly Wenger. That's how he wants Ramsey to play and it's all a bit unfortunate for the player who is starting to get serious stick again. Although I doubt even Wenger tells him to bomb forward that much. So stupid. We need to go back to the most basic of basics but Wenger is piling complication upon complication as if we are the Harlem Globetrotters of the game.

But how stupid of a player must you be to not know you're being taught wrong at his age? It's been years now and he hasn't learned. It's not as if he can't watch others teams and see that it's not the way to play as a midfielder. It's not as if he's being asked to do something beyond him like having to learn how to pass or score. Just stop bombing forwards ffs.

[Cripps]

No top club would have ever touched Welbeck when he was at Man U, overrated rubbish who can't shoot for toffee, low and behold though Wenger goes and shocks all the fans by paying to have this guy in our team, total incompetence, the guy was the focus of ridicule for all opposing fans.

I was initially quite excited when we bought him and thought his pace and power would be useful, but f*ck me, he really is a useless pile of crap isn't he. So unclinical.. needs about 8 chances to get 1 goal.

A big clumsy player.

[Xhaka Can’t]

AW: "That's part of the crowd's feeling. If I'm the problem, I'm the problem. I believe we lose together & we want our fans to be together"

Our fans are pathetic.

[Niall_Quinn]

I was initially quite excited when we bought him and thought his pace and power would be useful, but f*ck me, he really is a useless pile of crap isn't he. So unclinical.. needs about 8 chances to get 1 goal.

A big clumsy player.

Wenger's take on it:

“At the moment, he is a bit in between on the flank and being central but at the end of the season I liked him through the middle.”

But I wouldn't worry too much, in about 8 years Wenger will realise Welbz is perhaps not as prolific in front of goal as we need him to be. And then he will announce this new, undiscovered fact and buy Sanogo's sister to replace him.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our fans are pathetic.

At the very first stumble they start kicking off. Fickle. They think they are so clever just because they can predict the defeat, the nature of the defeat and the specific issues underpinning the defeat. Of course, mass pattern recognition is a fine thing in hindsight.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I had a Liverpool player as captain on FF.

That tells you what my level of confidence was. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

But how stupid of a player must you be to not know you're being taught wrong at his age? It's been years now and he hasn't learned. It's not as if he can't watch others teams and see that it's not the way to play as a midfielder. It's not as if he's being asked to do something beyond him like having to learn how to pass or score. Just stop bombing forwards ffs.

I think he wants to play that role. He plays in a similar way for Wales, with the manager compensating, of course, which is what we lack at Arsenal. And Henry mentioned the comfort zone too. When you get into a pattern, or a rut, and you get used to things over a long period of time then they become normal. Many of these players have been institutionalised.

[Power n Glory]

Wenger's take on it:

“At the moment, he is a bit in between on the flank and being central but at the end of the season I liked him through the middle.”

But I wouldn't worry too much, in about 8 years Wenger will realise Welbz is perhaps not as prolific in front of goal as we need him to be. And then he will announce this new, undiscovered fact and buy Sanogo's sister to replace him.

Wenger doesn't rate the straight forward number 9 strikers that are all about banging in goals. He's always impressed with some extra bullshit other than scoring goals. Fool. It didn't take long for him to bench Lacazette and once he came one he was playing out wide on the left.

[rodders]

Is it any wonder half the team want to leave? Todays performance certainly will not encourage them to stay. If you have an ounce of integrity please Kroenke and Wenger go.

[Munchies]

https://youtu.be/WBOT0Tqpbag

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Is it any wonder half the team want to leave? Todays performance certainly will not encourage them to stay. If you have an ounce of integrity please Kroenke and Wenger go.

Stan certainly doesn't care.
The players don't care.
It seems that Wenger doesn't care anymore.

The only people that care our us suckers that shell out thousands for season tickets, red memberships and subscriptions.

How utterly depressing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Stan certainly doesn't care.
The players don't care.
It seems that Wenger doesn't care anymore.

The only people that care our us suckers that shell out thousands for season tickets, red memberships and subscriptions.

How utterly depressing.

Gunnersaurus called me earlier and said he couldn't give a fuck either.

[AFC Leveller]

Wenger has already decided he doesn't like Lacazette and is undermining him by benching him in big games, taking him off when we are chasing a game or playing him out of position like today!

Someone at Arsenal has got to fire the cunt, we are in a real mess here and it will only get worse.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has already decided he doesn't like Lacazette and is undermining him by benching him in big games, taking him off when we are chasing a game or playing him out of position like today!

Someone at Arsenal has got to fire the cunt, we are in a real mess here and it will only get worse.

He's in the transition period, according to Le Genius. The transition from a quality player to another Wenger victim.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Wenger has already decided he doesn't like Lacazette and is undermining him by benching him in big games, taking him off when we are chasing a game or playing him out of position like today!

Someone at Arsenal has got to fire the cunt, we are in a real mess here and it will only get worse.

During our previous moments of crisis in past years we could often make an emergency signing in the window to at least stabilise the problem for the season, most notably after the 8 - 2 ...... but I honestly don't think signing Lemar or whoever is going to solve the core issue. Not that it's going to happen, but we'd be better off spending 15 million on paying Wenger off than getting a new signing in.

[rodders]

How much more humiliation must we suffer in the hands of the incompetent and the mercenary uncaring?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

How much more humiliation must we suffer in the hands of the incompetent and the mercenary uncaring?

Until it hits him financially. Either the sponsors to start dropping off (and there are signs already of that) or fans stop pumping money into the club.


That being said, TV money these days dwarves the other two revenue streams, especially matchday income, so I honestly don't think Stan would care if we were playing to an empty stadium as long as we were still making a profit.

[AFC Leveller]

Until it hits him financially. Either the sponsors to start dropping off (and there are signs already of that) or fans stop pumping money into the club.


That being said, TV money these days dwarves the other two revenue streams, especially matchday income, so I honestly don't think Stan would care if we were playing to an empty stadium as long as we were still making a profit.

It's a huge mess that won't simply go away if fans stop turning up. We have loads of tourists waiting in the wings and would happily fill up the stadium and take selfies! Wenger is a cancer at Arsenal and getting rid of him is going to be nearly impossible.

[Niall_Quinn]

This manager has a magic cloak that makes him impervious. Right now, the pundits are blaming Ozil for this performance. John Barnes has come up with the craziest shit so far. Try and stick with me on this one. Mesut Ozil is to blame for Arsenal's problems because when he plays badly the fans don't criticise him, instead they criticise Wenger. So Ozil gets a free ride, poor old Wenger gets all the flak. Wenger is the victim. The insanity of this is hard to grasp. Ozil has been persecuted by the media since he arrived, and half the fanbase has jumped on the bandwagon. So how, exactly, has he had a free ride while Wenger has got the blame. Barnes is literally blaming Ozil and absolving Wenger because, in his confused mind, Ozil never gets blamed and Wenger takes all the heat.

Andy Gray thinks the main problem stems from the fact Wenger never subs Ozil. Gray is normally more level headed, but he's hitched his wagon up to the crackpot caravan on this occasion. Is he seriously telling me that if Ozil had been subbed today it would have made a blind bit of fucking difference? Apart from Cech, who kept the score embarrassing rather than mortifying, everyone was shite. Including the subs. And they were all shite because the fucking lunatic running the place has absolutely no idea how to build a team and send it out to compete. None at all.

How is he getting away with this? It's staggering. This isn't the first, second or even fifth season this shit has been going on. It has been over a decade FFS. At what point do some of these lunatics say, well hold on, perhaps Wenger might have something to do with this?

I can't remember the name of the bloke on the American post game show, but he's the only one that seems to grasp the obvious. His take? This all comes down to one man and one man alone. Arsene Wenger. Because when you get to write your own contract and you have no pressure then this is what you get. Or words to that effect. One person. All the rest of them are fishing around for any excuse to absolve Wenger and some won't even mention his name.

Supporting Arsenal is like being in the Village in that TV series The Prisoner. Surely everyone can see what a fucked up place it is, but no, you show them and they all ask, what, what, what? In the end you wonder whether it's you that's insane.

[Niall_Quinn]

Until it hits him financially. Either the sponsors to start dropping off (and there are signs already of that) or fans stop pumping money into the club.


That being said, TV money these days dwarves the other two revenue streams, especially matchday income, so I honestly don't think Stan would care if we were playing to an empty stadium as long as we were still making a profit.

Yeah, it's a little bit crazy. Those TV revenues are paid by all football fans, not just Arsenal fans. You pay your subscription package and that covers all the teams. So fans of Utd, the gypos, the spuds, Bournemouth, etc are all chipping in to keep Kroenke and Wenger well heeled. It doesn't even rely on Arsenal fans refusing to attend, or buy shirts, or cancel Sky. If we won't pay then Liverpool fans will. And chavs.

It's impossible to beat the bastards.

[Marc Overmars]

It's just bizarre how literally nothing changes. This club is proof of how overrated stability is.

[selassie]

Don't care, I have already written off this season, our club is in real crisis and until he is gone we will continue to stagnate.

[selassie]

This manager has a magic cloak that makes him impervious. Right now, the pundits are blaming Ozil for this performance. John Barnes has come up with the craziest shit so far. Try and stick with me on this one. Mesut Ozil is to blame for Arsenal's problems because when he plays badly the fans don't criticise him, instead they criticise Wenger. So Ozil gets a free ride, poor old Wenger gets all the flak. Wenger is the victim. The insanity of this is hard to grasp. Ozil has been persecuted by the media since he arrived, and half the fanbase has jumped on the bandwagon. So how, exactly, has he had a free ride while Wenger has got the blame. Barnes is literally blaming Ozil and absolving Wenger because, in his confused mind, Ozil never gets blamed and Wenger takes all the heat.

Andy Gray thinks the main problem stems from the fact Wenger never subs Ozil. Gray is normally more level headed, but he's hitched his wagon up to the crackpot caravan on this occasion. Is he seriously telling me that if Ozil had been subbed today it would have made a blind bit of fucking difference? Apart from Cech, who kept the score embarrassing rather than mortifying, everyone was shite. Including the subs. And they were all shite because the fucking lunatic running the place has absolutely no idea how to build a team and send it out to compete. None at all.

How is he getting away with this? It's staggering. This isn't the first, second or even fifth season this shit has been going on. It has been over a decade FFS. At what point do some of these lunatics say, well hold on, perhaps Wenger might have something to do with this?

I can't remember the name of the bloke on the American post game show, but he's the only one that seems to grasp the obvious. His take? This all comes down to one man and one man alone. Arsene Wenger. Because when you get to write your own contract and you have no pressure then this is what you get. Or words to that effect. One person. All the rest of them are fishing around for any excuse to absolve Wenger and some won't even mention his name.

Supporting Arsenal is like being in the Village in that TV series The Prisoner. Surely everyone can see what a fucked up place it is, but no, you show them and they all ask, what, what, what? In the end you wonder whether it's you that's insane.

I do agree with your sentiment NQ, but this is now about Wenger v world, he is wrong but will continue to dig his heels in until he is fired. The Arsenal job will be a tough one once Wenger is gone, he has gone past that stage of wanting what's best for Arsenal and it's now all about him.

[Letters]

It's just bizarre how literally nothing changes. This club is proof of how overrated stability is.

I don't think it shows that stability is a bad thing but it is a bad thing if you're in endless Groundhog Day because it just means that Day goes on for longer. Maybe one day Andie Macdowell will fall in love with Arsene Wenger and this will all be over. :ilt:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I follow Arsenal twitter a lot and even most of the usual Arsene apologists have turned on Wenger now want him gone - even Arseblog who's usually quite restrained. This result may finally be the straw that broke the camel's back though obviously it's going to have zero impact on anything.

Though if the unthinkable were to happen and he either resign or be forced out then Tuchel is still available and could do the job for at least a season. Heck i'd take the fat Spanish waiter at this point.


It's a huge mess that won't simply go away if fans stop turning up. We have loads of tourists waiting in the wings and would happily fill up the stadium and take selfies! Wenger is a cancer at Arsenal and getting rid of him is going to be nearly impossible.

Kroenke is the cancer and Wenger continuing to linger around instead of being quietly pushed aside is the symptom of it. A caring owner would have done something about ages ago.


I do agree with your sentiment NQ, but this is now about Wenger v world, he is wrong but will continue to dig his heels in until he is fired. The Arsenal job will be a tough one once Wenger is gone, he has gone past that stage of wanting what's best for Arsenal and it's now all about him.

Whilst I've wanted Wenger to go for a long time now I've always been mindful of being respectful and not being as venomous and downright nasty in abusing him as opposed to others online (and sometimes in the stadium) like NQ who'll call him every name under the sun mainly because of his history and service to the club ......... but honestly fuck him, the geriatric old fraud.

He had two chances to go out on a high winning the FA Cup but his oversized ego, pettiness to be proven ultimately right at whatever detriment to the club he professes to care and his own personal inability to see himself outside football has caused him to stick around.

[Ralpheroo72]

Problem is, the Grove will still be full every home game, and so the money will keep rolling in. I have switched off, I don't watch anymore because I know what is coming. He brings in 2 signings, and rests them both, he is on cloud cuckoo land. I cant see anything at that club that makes it attractive anymore, its a lifeless soulless place.

[Keith]

Although I'm an armchair fan, I can't take any more of this.

My 4 year old has even decided he's a West Ham fan so I'm going to start taking him to the lower leagues rather than watching our games, we've got Luton & MK Dons (:() nearby but surely their teams have some passion and desire to win for their fans?

The team is a mess, the management is a mess. We've had the best squad in years for 3 years and Wenger has managed to ruin it.

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think it shows that stability is a bad thing but it is a bad thing if you're in endless Groundhog Day because it just means that Day goes on for longer. Maybe one day Andie Macdowell will fall in love with Arsene Wenger and this will all be over. :ilt:

Wenger would get her to go dutch on dinner then he'd refuse to fuck her after a prolonged bout of foreplay. She'd get the message and leave, like everyone else is doing.

[Niall_Quinn]

Whilst I've wanted Wenger to go for a long time now I've always been mindful of being respectful and not being as venomous and downright nasty in abusing him as opposed to others online (and sometimes in the stadium) like NQ who'll call him every name under the sun mainly because of his history and service to the club ......... but honestly fuck him, the geriatric old fraud.

Gloves came off and knuckleduster went on the second the selfish bastard signed that contract. I'd have given him his dues if he'd have ducked out at that point, despite the decade of torment. But when he decided he was bigger then this club all that history was washed away. If a saint saves you and then turns into a demon and kills you, you deal with the here and now. That old Wenger is long gone and now there's this thing in his place. If the long gone, old Wenger ever rematerialised I'd say thanks, for sure. As for this cunt that's taken his place, fuck him.

[Niall_Quinn]

The whole media, Internet, everything is talking about how shit Arsenal Football Club is. And yet, nobody is talking about how shit Wenger is, except the fans. All that remains is for Wenger and the media to come out and blame us for the mess. You know, like they did last season.

[Niall_Quinn]

Did anyone see the sycophant Keown on Match of the Day? Eeeeeeeeeeeewwwww!

[Niall_Quinn]

The Americans and Canadians have far, far, far more grasp on football reality than we see here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xzrvhpGjE

[Niall_Quinn]

Klopp: "Each pass is always a risk..."

Wenger needs to learn from this guy. Or he needs to jump off a bridge. Either will do.

[Niall_Quinn]

Listening to the Liverpool players after the game, they all talk about Arsenal and Arsenal players and they know their opponents and our (ahem) tactics.

Listening to Arsenal players, it's all, "we have to, we must, we will...", not one of them mentions an opponent.

Very, VERY, illustrative, I think.

Also. Wenger is a fucking dickhead.

[Thierrymon]

Hardly came as a surprise to get flogged today, did even want to check the result when I got up today. The players will apologise (again) and the manager will make his usual remarks and blame everyone but himself and the players. Nothing will change unless we have a serious upheaval at the top. It is telling that all our good players are desperate to leave. They know they are on a sinking ship.

[selassie]

I missed the game yesterday, the sad thing is I wasn't even that surprised when I found out the result. In years gone by I wouldn't have missed the game or at the very least I would have been desperate to keep up to date with the score. Not anymore, I knew we would lose and had no desire to watch the game. I don't even get angry when we lose now, I don't even feel embarrassed when we take a beating from a so called rival.

I have nothing positive to say anymore about the club I grew up loving, I feel as a club we are weak in pretty much every area of leadership, we lack a heart, we lack ambition, the club is run by cowards, the team is managed by a coward, the team is made up of cowards. I could go on and moan about Kroenke, Gazidis and Wenger individually but what's the point? Nothing is going to change, Wenger signing on for two more years means we have a minimum of two more years of this, he is pretty much untouchable as are those who make up this rotten regime.

[rodders]

We have a manager living with the fairies and a team where half of them wish to leave. We have a hard long road back. I can see a relegation fight on our hands.

[Master Splinter]

It is telling that all our good players are desperate to leave.

Oxlade is shit though.

[Thierrymon]

I rate him. Wenger can make any decent player look shit. Just like Ferguson could make any shit player look world class.

[Niall_Quinn]

THIERRY HENRY


'I wanted to walk out'

I wanted to leave (the stadium). I don't relate with this team.

I am not surprised. I was expecting this. Stagnation.

I knew what was going to happen today. But still when you see it you're like, no, not again! The way Arsenal lose the game is the problem. We are talking about desire, commitment. Have a go. The team I arrived into could fight. These guys? It is painful. As a fan, you try to be positive, but it's not nice to see.

Everything that you see on the day has been happening for the past 10 years.

We talk about Sanchez and is he staying, but they are not going to want to be part of this team. That is why players are not renewing their contracts, they can see something is wrong.

The word I have used for a long time — comfort. Everyone is comfortable at Arsenal. It's not the same pressure you have at a big club, that you should have. Everything is… nice. It cannot be like that.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Ox can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. Barely improved when we signed him and the fact that Wenger has decided to play him this season at LWB instead of Kolasinaic is endemic of his incompetent management.

If he really thinks he can get into either the Chelsea or Liverpool midfield with his brainless play then he's absolutely deluded.


The Americans and Canadians have far, far, far more grasp on football reality than we see here.



tbf I thought Carragher and to a lesser extent Henry nailed it in the post match Sky Sports coverage.

A lack of ruthlessness at the club - everyone is content with just being "comfortable & happy" and there's no pressure on them to deliver anything.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ABzA1rIXYI


Klopp: "Each pass is always a risk..."

Wenger needs to learn from this guy. Or he needs to jump off a bridge. Either will do.

Letting this guy go when we had the chance to sign him just to placate Wenger's ego will be one of the biggest mistakes the clubs ever made.

Actually plays good football and knows how to organise teams.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Also:

Petr Cech is about to concede more goals at Arsenal in less than 3 years than he conceded in his entire career at Chelsea. Peak Banter.


Arsenal. Where we make even formerly good players look utterly hopeless.

[fakeyank]

NONE of these so called pundits want to call Wenger out though. They will all dance around the topic but almost will never utter the forbidden name. I just do not understand how these guys and so many fans have blinkers on. We have had the same shit going on for more than a decade and yet people dont want to call out the biggest issue in the team!! I just do not understand how people think or do things..

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Outside the stadium this morning lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIUUePnXcAE7MMb.jpg


Would have been disgusted about this a few years ago but fuck it. If that's what it's going to take to change things I'm all for it becoming as nasty and poisonous as it needs to be. As long as Kroenke gets targeted as well ...... maybe we can get fakeyank to track him down in the US and slap him with a wet fish whilst screaming "Kroenke out!!!".


Tim Stillman was saying this on twitter this morning but one of the few positives about this entire debacle is that Arsenal fanbase isn't really at war anymore with the WOB vs AKB shit - I think everyone's at the same place now albeit it being a depressing and bad place to be.

[Power n Glory]

NONE of these so called pundits want to call Wenger out though. They will all dance around the topic but almost will never utter the forbidden name. I just do not understand how these guys and so many fans have blinkers on. We have had the same shit going on for more than a decade and yet people dont want to call out the biggest issue in the team!! I just do not understand how people think or do things..

Carragher made it clear. The manager should have gone and the Board bottled the decision.

[Globalgunner]

Carragher made it clear. The manager should have gone and the Board bottled the decision.

The Arsenal board does not exist in the conventional sense. Probably only Kroenke`s son isnt afraid of Wenger on that board. Every one else lowers their eyes and calls him "Mr Wenger" when he walks by. Arseholes every single one of them.

[Niall_Quinn]

According to the Daily Fail: "In their last 25 away games against Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham, Arsenal have won 0, drawn 7 and lost 18. Seven points out of a possible 75."

Is that true? Can't be, can it. Wenger would have been sacked if that were true.

[Letters]

I remember when we went into these games thinking we had a fair chance of getting something :lol:


I miss that :(

[fakeyank]

According to the Daily Fail: "In their last 25 away games against Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Tottenham, Arsenal have won 0, drawn 7 and lost 18. Seven points out of a possible 75."

Is that true? Can't be, can it. Wenger would have been sacked if that were true.

I am not sure thats right. I remember us beating City a couple of seasons ago. Or was that more than 25 away games ago?!

[AFC Leveller]

Petr Cech has conceded more goals at Arsenal (2 and a bit years) than he did at Chelsea (11 years)

[The Emirates Gallactico]

People on twitter are saying that apparently Ramsey called Kos a shit captain (which tbf he is) and tore into Alexis at half time which is the reason why he was subbed off at half time. :lol:

[AFC Leveller]

According to stats gurus, Arsenal are the first club in the history of football where a manager loses the dressing room and they get rid of the dressing rather than the manager .