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McNamara That Ghost...
03-12-2017, 08:52 AM
Literally 'Tractor' is in their team name.

Still can't get over it. :lol:

I hope we don't play mainly the B team, which of course won't happen.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 07:09 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQdxMbrXkAEpJxl.jpg

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 07:31 PM
I can see everybody is captivated.

Globalgunner
07-12-2017, 07:52 PM
Unsellable Walnutt to lead us to glory.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 07:59 PM
BATE Borisov: Scherbitski; Volodko, Polyakov, Milunovic, Rios; Dragun, Berezkin, Ivanic, Stasevich; Gordeychuk, Rodionov.

Dragon. :bow:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQdxMbrXkAEpJxl.jpg

www.giroud

Gooner23
07-12-2017, 08:01 PM
Looking forward to this one

Said no one ever

But yet I'm still watching it :pal:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQdxMbrXkAEpJxl.jpg

Bit more sane than Arsehole Wanker's last try at selecting a team in this competition, I suppose.

Gooner23
07-12-2017, 08:04 PM
Stadium looks about half full.
59,000 attendance to be announced then.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:07 PM
If I can find a stream that works brilliantly, first time, I'l watch it. Otherwise, fuck it.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:09 PM
I found a brilliant stream that worked first time :haha:

http://buffstream.com/watch/soccer.php

Miss by that second rate Elneny.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:10 PM
What does having "already won the group" have to do with anything? Thinking like that turns winning into losing.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:12 PM
Elneny hit the post earlier. I was eating a cookie so was too busy to post about it.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:13 PM
Hartson thinks Holding and Maitland-Niles form part of an experienced defence. :unsure:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:13 PM
Bate have been downing their pints more effectively than us in the first 5 mins.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:14 PM
Theo offside.

Despite his prior absence, he's slipped back into his offside game without missing a beat.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:15 PM
Ref blows because a player got hit by the ball :doh:

Homoball.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:15 PM
Theo kills someone.

Thierrymon
07-12-2017, 08:16 PM
Debuchy scored.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:16 PM
1-0 Debuchy

Calm finish.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:16 PM
DEBUCHY!!! What a strike!

GP
07-12-2017, 08:17 PM
Great goal!

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:17 PM
Bootifully struck says Hartson.

Loves a good pun does big John.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:18 PM
Wasn't a great strike at all. It was a professional strike, to be expected. As a minimum. The standard is so low now that a player hitting ball cleanly at the target is considered exceptional.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:20 PM
This could be a big score. Bate are very, very poor.

Thierrymon
07-12-2017, 08:21 PM
We are all over them. ANother goal surely not far off.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:22 PM
Acres of space all over the pitch and limitless time on the ball.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:23 PM
Debuchy glassed by a drunk.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:23 PM
Volodko booked.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:24 PM
Theo is so shit it's quite unbelievable. But Debuchy is showing some good play today. Looks quite competent.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:25 PM
Ridiculous dive by Welbz when he could have run onto that.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:25 PM
Acres of space all over the pitch and limitless time on the ball.

Hectares tonight.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:26 PM
Theo :doh:

Embarrassing.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:26 PM
For this Bate side, the press is where they get their pies.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:27 PM
BATE are more interested in crop rotation.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:28 PM
Oh Welbz, just one job mate.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:28 PM
Easy goal passed up by Welbz. Keeper beat him in open play :doh:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:29 PM
Theo :haha:

My God. Dear me.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:30 PM
Great effort on his own goal by the Bate defender. Good save by the keeper.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:30 PM
Nearly an OG!

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:31 PM
Theo misses a sitter.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:31 PM
Great save to deny Theo!

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:32 PM
Good dive by Jack. FK right on the edge of the box.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:33 PM
Pathetic FK from Theo. Can't even get it on target.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:33 PM
Yes, Coutinho invented the freekick under the wall. Bellends.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:34 PM
Jack's a good player. Theo is a total waste of space. Nice driving run there from Jack, but he fucked it up right at the end by making a perfect pass to Theo.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:35 PM
Good interplay by Maitland-Niles, he goes for the Pirlo ball and out it goes.

GP
07-12-2017, 08:36 PM
Jack knows how to pass a ball.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:36 PM
Welbeck bottles the first time shot. He's becoming the new Theo.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:38 PM
If Bate didn't have Theo and Welbz we'd be out of sight by now. 80% possession. But most of it is going to two of the most inept players in world football.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:39 PM
Lovely play by Jack but Welbz doesn't do first touches.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:41 PM
My perfect stream just died :(

Bastard lawyers.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:42 PM
THEO!!!!

What was Welbz doing? :lol:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:43 PM
Found another perfect stream, just as Theo scores.

2-0

Gooner23
07-12-2017, 08:44 PM
Lovely touch by Welbeck for Walnuts goal :clap:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:45 PM
Lovely touch by Welbeck for Walnuts goal :clap:

Lovely interplay from the two spastics.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:46 PM
Theo misses another sitter.

He's so shit it's hard to fathom.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:46 PM
Cleared off the line to deny Theo! Bif missed it somehow.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:47 PM
Cleared off the line to deny Theo! Bif missed it somehow.

It was Theo surely? Not Bif?

Bif's not even playing, is he?

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:47 PM
Good effort from Wheelchair, tipped over.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:48 PM
It was Theo surely? Not Bif?

Bif's not even playing, is he?

Definitely Bif that missed the ball completely. Nobody pouts like him in our team.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:49 PM
Absolutely lovely stuff by Jack.

3-0

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:49 PM
WILSHERE!!!!! Great goal.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:49 PM
Time for a 10-0 win I think.

GP
07-12-2017, 08:49 PM
JACK




me off

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:50 PM
Jack is head and shoulders better than anything else on this pitch. Next Debuchy who looks very contained and composed, albeit against terrible opposition. But you can only perform against what is put in front of you.

After that, defence excluded because they aren't really needed tonight, we have some very average players on show.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 08:52 PM
Theo messes up a pass that couldn't be any more simple.

3-0 HT.

Gooner23
07-12-2017, 08:54 PM
Hartson thinks BATE don't look a good side. Controversial stuff there from big John.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:54 PM
HT 3-0

We won't get an easier game all season.

Tbf, Jack has taken advantage and run the game. Debuchy has been very efficient down the right. Maitlain Niles has been utter gash down the left. And what can you say about Theo and Welbz? Atrocious.

Bif is having the night off, so that's nice for him. And Coquelin can't even get his passing game together against Bate.

Defence untroubled. Literally nothing to do. Ospina having a picnic.

3-0 is flattering for Bate. I think the Europa is summed up nicely by the fact a club like this is even in it.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:58 PM
Oh, what a surprise, my stream has a bird hosting the half time talk. Nothing like equality. Not enough know nothing women in football? So sack ALL the male presenters and bring a horde of these ignorant bimbos in. Equality :bow:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 08:58 PM
All the stupid cow knows how to do is announce the break.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:00 PM
Hopefully Wenger brings the kids on now. This is ideal for them. Show us what they can do. Get Theo, Welbz and Bif off - which will reduce Bate to 11 men.

Globalgunner
07-12-2017, 09:03 PM
All the stupid cow knows how to do is announce the break.

Is she easy on the eye though?

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:05 PM
Is she easy on the eye though?

Well they all are tbf. But comparatively, she's a 7. Fuckable for sure, if she was ever lucky enough to get me, but no doubt shit in the kitchen.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:05 PM
How long has BT's ad break been on for?

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:07 PM
How long has BT's ad break been on for?

They've had to bug out because the second half has started. Fucking contracts :doh:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:09 PM
Ospina, in all his fag kit glory, gets a touch :bow:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:10 PM
Pretty blatant foul on Jack.

No card for some unfathomable reason.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:14 PM
OG!!!!!

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:14 PM
Great finish from Bate.

Into their own net.

Cheers lads.

GP
07-12-2017, 09:14 PM
What a finish :lol:

Great pass by Jack

Globalgunner
07-12-2017, 09:14 PM
OG makes it 4-0. We are brilliant

Coney
07-12-2017, 09:15 PM
Bate score. Wenger out.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:15 PM
My advice to Bate is Magnum ice cream tubs may sound like a good idea, but in reality there's too much chocolate and not enough ice cream.

Fact.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:16 PM
If this was a marrow growing competition, we'd be in trouble.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:17 PM
This is the equivalent of Joshua beating the shit out of a crippled 5 year old.

Good to win and all. But there's an uneasy feeling to it.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:19 PM
Welbz misses.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:19 PM
Oh Welbz, greedy.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:20 PM
Bif is the guy crossing the ball :haha:

Shambles. But makes no difference against this opposition.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:21 PM
Jack's using this game to get better.

Theo and Welbz are using it to get even shittier.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:22 PM
Bif :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:22 PM
Bif. :haha:

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:24 PM
PELANTY!!

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:24 PM
Pen. Theo flops onto the deck.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:25 PM
Bif taking it.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:25 PM
Bif has to retake.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:25 PM
5-0

But the ref wants it taken again, for no reason whatsoever.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:25 PM
Bif scores anyway.

5-0

GP
07-12-2017, 09:26 PM
BIF! :bow:

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:26 PM
GIROUD!!!!

Halfway there.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:27 PM
Bif is finally going to be a dad?

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:27 PM
Nelson will be coming on. Probably for Ospina.

Globalgunner
07-12-2017, 09:28 PM
I think we may have turned another corner.
Wenger:bow:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:29 PM
67th minute and Arsecrack Wenker still hasn't made a sub.

GP
07-12-2017, 09:31 PM
GIROUD!!!!

Halfway there.

WOAH! Livin' on a prayer!

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:31 PM
As always, we've switched off. It's instinctive by this stage.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:32 PM
Elneny. :haha:

Just don't bother.

Theo hauled off, Nelson on.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:32 PM
walnut off, after a tragic performance which the commentators are describing as "very, very good". Bullshit. He was bullshit.

Nelson on. A much better player.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:36 PM
ELNENY!!!!

Me. :haha:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:36 PM
Ridiculously good play by Jack. Out of the seat stuff.

And then Elneny applies a very competent finish.

Enjoyed that.

6-0

KSE Comedy Club
07-12-2017, 09:37 PM
Why don’t we play this confidently every week?

Bate being shit aside, of course.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:38 PM
Jack's looked great. But the opposition are so poor. I mean really, really poor. So hard to know what to make of it.

Meanwhile Elneny off, Willock on.

Welbz off, Eddie on. Eddie's a better player already tbf.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:39 PM
Welbz hauled off, Nketiah on. :bow:

Elneny off for Willock.

KSE Comedy Club
07-12-2017, 09:39 PM
Nketiah on, good to see.

Indeed NQ, could be a wolf in sheeps clothing

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:40 PM
Eddie will likely get a couple before the end. Assuming he hasn't caught Welbeckitus.

KSE Comedy Club
07-12-2017, 09:44 PM
Did anyone else see the close up of the crowd?

The woman that looks like Wenger in a blonde wig :lol::lol:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:45 PM
Did anyone else see the close up of the crowd?

The woman that looks like Wenger in a blonde wig :lol::lol:

Yeah, his disguise is as ridiculous as everything else he does.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:48 PM
Training match, tbf.

A proper indictment of this mickey mouse cup.

McNamara That Ghost...
07-12-2017, 09:50 PM
I've turned it off, failing asleep. :lol:

KSE Comedy Club
07-12-2017, 09:53 PM
Is there anyway to upload iPhone pics to the forum?

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:53 PM
Jack's control in the box and precision pass for the 6th was the only moment that could be classed as entertaining. Otherwise a walk in the park. You have to be a masochistdiehard fan to stick with this.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:54 PM
Is there anyway to upload iPhone pics to the forum?

You've got an iphone :haha:

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:54 PM
FT 6-0

Yawn.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 09:55 PM
Why are Bate in an "elite" competition? It's a bit silly in truth.

GP
07-12-2017, 09:57 PM
Is there anyway to upload iPhone pics to the forum?

You'll need to host them somewhere first, like Imgur

Letters
07-12-2017, 10:02 PM
Arsenal Master BATE

:dance:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
07-12-2017, 10:10 PM
Didn't see much of the game but still not convinced Jack will offer us any less than Xhaka other than a decent fitness record and a few inches.....

Marc Overmars
07-12-2017, 10:14 PM
Had no idea we were playing tonight. :lol:

Always nice to rack up the goals.

Niall_Quinn
07-12-2017, 10:17 PM
Didn't see much of the game but still not convinced Jack will offer us any less than Xhaka other than a decent fitness record and a few inches.....

Jack offers us the forward pass. A rare commodity indeed.

GP
07-12-2017, 10:31 PM
Arsenal Master BATE

:dance:

They really knuckled down, had them in the palm of our hand etc...

Marc Overmars
08-12-2017, 12:08 AM
Spartak Moscow
Napoli
Celtic
Borussia Dortmund
FC Astana
Partizan Belgrade
Ludogorets
AEK Athens
Lyon
FC Copenhagen
Steaua
Marseille
Ostersunds
Nice
Real Sociedad

Lyon, Celtic or Dortmund please. :popcorn:

Cripps
08-12-2017, 01:01 AM
Half empty stadium:lol:

Christ our dramatic fall from grace is complete :(

Shame to see really. After all the promises and hope following the stadium move to now be playing in a second tier competition in front of half capacity :(

Be careful what you wish for :(

Letters
08-12-2017, 09:37 AM
FT 6-0

Yawn.

Why do you watch Arsenal games?
You seem to derive no pleasure from it whatever the performance or result.

Marc Overmars
08-12-2017, 10:23 AM
Half empty stadium:lol:

Christ our dramatic fall from grace is complete :(

Shame to see really. After all the promises and hope following the stadium move to now be playing in a second tier competition in front of half capacity :(

Be careful what you wish for :(

Dead game, dead competition, dead opposition. Any club would see a hit on attendance tbf.

Cripps
08-12-2017, 10:39 AM
Back in the day we'd get 60k for carling cup games with the youth team out.

Or we'd qualify with a game to spare and still see 60k turn up.

Cripps
08-12-2017, 10:40 AM
Why do you watch Arsenal games?
You seem to derive no pleasure from it whatever the performance or result.

:lol: i know right, what he should do is watch MK Dons instead

Niall_Quinn
08-12-2017, 11:13 AM
Why do you watch Arsenal games?
You seem to derive no pleasure from it whatever the performance or result.

How have you managed to detect anti-Wenger material in that?

Letters
08-12-2017, 11:22 AM
It was a simple question.
I stopped watching because of apathy.
You keep watching but don't seem to get any pleasure from it no matter what the result or performance.
Just curious why you persist in doing that when you seem to hate it so much.
If you were going to games and using that as a platform for protest then it would make some sense to me.
But going out of your way to find streams for games which you clearly don't enjoy seems perverse.

Cripps
08-12-2017, 11:23 AM
Isn't it ironic:lol:

All those years Letters was deriding us for our stance on Wenger and our position on the direction of the club, and now he's the one advocating stopping watching matches altogether:lol:

He embodies the passive, derogatory, middle class fan base we have. He completely symbolises it. It's because of people like him we're in the position we find ourselves in. The 'pay up and stay quiet' mentality that has led to this shower of shite we are witnessing. I hate him as much as Wenger.

And now instead of showing anger towards the manager for putting us in this position he still directs it towards our fans :lol: Tells them to stop watching :lol:

Hopefully when Wenger finally pisses off he takes the likes of Letters with him. He can sip his skinny latte somewhere else. Preferably on the street with a 'any spare change please' sign.

Letters
08-12-2017, 11:45 AM
And now instead of showing anger towards the manager for putting us in this position he still directs it towards our fans :lol: Tells them to stop watching :lol:
Yeah. Except I didn't do any of that, did I?
And I have never advocated not watching games*
All I'm doing is asking why NQ keeps doing something he seems to hate. Just seems a bit odd.

*What I have advocated is people stop giving Arsenal their money which is the only language I think the board understand and thus the only way of affecting change. In which case watching via streams is the right thing to do if you want to keep watching games.

I don't know if you are just WUMming and deliberately misrepresenting my views to paint me as some pantomime villain you can boo and hiss at. If you want some serious debate then please try responding to what I'm actually saying, not what you are pretending I'm saying.

Cripps
08-12-2017, 01:34 PM
Yeah. Except I didn't do any of that, did I?
And I have never advocated not watching games*
All I'm doing is asking why NQ keeps doing something he seems to hate. Just seems a bit odd.

*What I have advocated is people stop giving Arsenal their money which is the only language I think the board understand and thus the only way of affecting change. In which case watching via streams is the right thing to do if you want to keep watching games.

I don't know if you are just WUMming and deliberately misrepresenting my views to paint me as some pantomime villain you can boo and hiss at. If you want some serious debate then please try responding to what I'm actually saying, not what you are pretending I'm saying.

Oh be quiet Letters. You know exactly what you are; a condescending, patronising, arrogant poster. We know exactly what you mean by posts like ‘why do you still watch us then’. You might not spell it out but don’t try and cover it up with nonsensical BS.

Have you got no shame? Can you not see the absolute irony in the fact you derided us for years for speaking the truth and now you’re the one passively suggesting we should stop watching games?

I see a few times you’ve proudly posted that you’ve given up your ST and won’t buy any more tickets or merchandise, as if it’s a show of defiance :lol: Do me a favour :lol: Do you think they actually give a crap now you moron? People like you funded them for years and stayed silent and accepted the crap they were saying, and you think now you’ve actually done something meaningful by packing in your season ticket?! :lol:

I remember you once said you used to go to games with your dad as it was the only bit of father-son time you had with him. Does it not irritate you one bit or make you even a little bit angry that Wenger is pretty much the reason that doesn’t happen anymore? That he’s got in the way? Or is NQ and Zim calling him an awful manager the only thing that riles you? :lol:

Go on Letters show a bit of passion for once. It’s okay to be angry towards him. I know it’s difficult because for years you’ve done nothing but defend him and establish yourself as the self-proclaimed extreme anti-Wenger police, but you can just hold your hands up and admit you were wrong. People would respect you so much more.

McNamara That Ghost...
08-12-2017, 07:38 PM
Bringing in a poster's family member to make a point seems a bit much to me, whether you 'hate' them or not.

Cripps
08-12-2017, 08:14 PM
Maccy, lay off.

I know you're itching to ban me but now isn't the time.

That's twice now you've butted your nose in to a trivial point of mine, despite the fact there's been far far worse said on this forum that you turn a blind eye to.

So stop trying to create a mountain out of a molehill and frame intentions that weren't there, to justify whatever bullshit decision you want to make when you press that magic button on me.

McNamara That Ghost...
08-12-2017, 08:26 PM
No how about you give it a rest with the persecution nonsense, it bores the shit out of everyone.

You're not being banned, your post wasn't even edited!

If you somehow don't think bringing in somebody as a point of reference that has absolutely nothing to do with the forum whatsoever is justifiable and that is fair game, then I am sorry, you've lost sight. Ask the 'we' you always fall back on as a brickwall if I am being unreasonable here in highlighting it.

Also, may I remind you it is you that said you hate a fellow poster.

Cripps
08-12-2017, 10:06 PM
It's true through:lol: you stick your nose in over trivial things when it comes to me yet when others say much worse you turn a blind eye to it :lol:

And it's completely justifiable to make a valid point. If you take offence to it then that's your problem.

McNamara That Ghost...
09-12-2017, 03:25 AM
Like who saying what? I am saying this regarding a poster's family member to make a point. It's not appropriate to be doing that and as far as I know, nobody else has done that.

It's not on, so I would ask you don't do it again.

Letters
09-12-2017, 08:24 AM
I remember you once said you used to go to games with your dad as it was the only bit of father-son time you had with him. Does it not irritate you one bit or make you even a little bit angry that Wenger is pretty much the reason that doesn’t happen anymore?
The main reason is actually my father's Alzheimer's which meant he was no longer able to go.
Not the only factor, but a fairly big one. And we continued to watch games on the TV after we gave up our season tickets but sadly he's no longer able to do that either now. So actually no, this loss of father-son time is absolutely nothing to do with Wenger.
And while the board don't care if I no longer go - because someone is undoubtedly sitting there instead of me - if people stopped going en masse then it would have an impact. Not going to happen, realistically, but in my view the only way to affect change.
Others have also said they are not going to give Arsenal another penny till Wenger leaves, I am not unique in that stance.


now you’re the one passively suggesting we should stop watching games?
No, I am not. That is simply not true. Stop making stuff up or telling me what I meant by a post. I have not said that, if you think it is implied then that implication is entirely in your head. I merely questioned why NQ specifically continues to to so when he seems to hate it no matter the outcome. He still hasn't replied.
I have never suggested people stop watching games. I rarely do watch, if others want to then fine, if they can do so without paying Arsenal in any way to do so then better still.

And yes, I was wrong about Wenger, I kept faith in him too long. But that doesn't mean that I agree with every criticism of him on here. Nor should I have to.
It's ironic that you say I am the "self-proclaimed extreme anti-Wenger police" when it is YOU who are proclaiming me as such.
And you have said repeatedly that I ban people for anti-Wenger views. Well, you're still here. Zim's still here. NQ's still here. This board is almost universally anti-Wenger.
So how about YOU hold your hands up and admit you were wrong about that...

Niall_Quinn
09-12-2017, 10:37 AM
I merely questioned why NQ specifically continues to to so when he seems to hate it no matter the outcome. He still hasn't replied.

I'll answer when you remove the frame from the debate. You probably need to be around on match day so you can see more of my comments. It will help you judge what I really thought about the game, rather than making a huge assumption and then pinning it to me.

Cripps
09-12-2017, 11:27 AM
No, I am not. That is simply not true. Stop making stuff up or telling me what I meant by a post. I have not said that, if you think it is implied then that implication is entirely in your head. I merely questioned why NQ specifically continues to to so when he seems to hate it no matter the outcome. He still hasn't replied.
I have never suggested people stop watching games. I rarely do watch, if others want to then fine, if they can do so without paying Arsenal in any way to do so then better still.

It is completely true Letters. That was in no way a genuine question, the way you're trying to make out it was. You had no intention of simply asking NQ why he watches games still, in fact you know why- he is an Arsenal fan and loves the club. The love for a football club isn't something you can just switch off, it is often enshrined in generations of family that gets passed down and embedded into your DNA. So if you were - which I don't think you were, but if you were- genuinely asking him that question then you're more clueless than I thought you were.
You were passively suggesting not to bother which is the most ironic thing in the world, coming from you.



It's ironic that you say I am the "self-proclaimed extreme anti-Wenger police" when it is YOU who are proclaiming me as such.


Once again you are wrong. I haven't proclaimed as such, it's your actions and your quotes. Here's some quotes from yourself:

"I'm just calling out bullshit for what it is."
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4088&page=24&p=4428259&viewfull=1#post4428259

"But I WILL argue against the things I see as more hyperbolic nonsense. I don't think he's a "shitty" manager. He gets some things right and other things wrong. I WILL argue against nonsense like we have an "average" squad and an "awful" manager."
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4062&page=34&p=4427784&viewfull=1#post4427784

"This is NOT the work of an awful manager working with an average squad. THAT is hyperbolic nonsense and deserves some ridicule."
http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4062&page=34&p=4427784&viewfull=1#post4427784

You seem to take pride in sticking up for your messiah. Almost as if it's your calling to ensure people don't go over the top on this forum.


And you have said repeatedly that I ban people for anti-Wenger views. Well, you're still here. Zim's still here. NQ's still here. This board is almost universally anti-Wenger.
So how about YOU hold your hands up and admit you were wrong about that...

Over the years the anti-Wenger posters have been banned. That is fact. Mostly due to the fact they are anti-Wenger then get into personal duels with you, or one of your bum chums, and then either you or another mod bans them. Fact. It's never the other side that gets banned, it's always the anti-Wenger posters despite the fact the other side (especially you) are just as bad.
Yet you're still a mod. Why Letters? Why not do the honourable thing and step down? Will you actually answer that question or ignore it like you have always done? This place doesn't need as many mods as it has, plus you say you don't even watch games anymore because you have completely lost interest. You antagonise other posters, you are confrontational, you have caused a divide, you are not liked by many on here. Why are you still a mod Letters?

Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
09-12-2017, 12:00 PM
My observation

You Vieira have a persecution complex going on
Letters has a personal issue with both you and Zim. But disliking someone isn’t going to mean you’re banned
Letters is the executive producer of mods his meagre financial contribution keeps the place going

There does seem to me a lot more personal animus on here than discussing football

And I have to say....long may it continue

Go back to banter and shit posting, when you whinge like a little girl it’s not becoming

Xhaka Can’t
09-12-2017, 12:59 PM
The whole fucking world is being stripped of nuance and while it makes for great baiting, nothing ever gets better. Just a progressive acceleration into the abyss.

The shit abyss.

Niall_Quinn
09-12-2017, 02:10 PM
The whole fucking world is being stripped of nuance and while it makes for great baiting, nothing ever gets better. Just a progressive acceleration into the abyss.

The shit abyss.

Just answer the question!

YES or NO?

Xhaka Can’t
09-12-2017, 03:09 PM
Ermmmm.....yes?

Letters
09-12-2017, 10:05 PM
I'll answer when you remove the frame from the debate. You probably need to be around on match day so you can see more of my comments. It will help you judge what I really thought about the game, rather than making a huge assumption and then pinning it to me.

It isn't a debate, it's just a question. You seem to pretty much hate watching Arsenal play. That isn't a huge assumption, you post endlessly about how poor our play is, not without justification. I'm just wondering why you put yourself through it if you so rarely enjoy it. If you don't want to answer then fine, I was only asking :shrug:

Letters
09-12-2017, 10:29 PM
It is completely true Letters. That was in no way a genuine question, the way you're trying to make out it was.
Yes, it was a genuine question :lol:

No, you can't just switch off being a fan, but you can take a step away from it as many on here have. You can do that as a protest at the situation at the club, because of apathy or whatever. MO and Gary both used to go to games regularly, they have both stopped doing so. I know others who don't watch games like they used to. Doesn't mean they are suddenly not Arsenal fans, it's just they have taken a step back. Probably not permanently. I'm pretty sure NQ said at some point he wouldn't be watching games this season as he was fed up of it all so it's a fairly reasonable question to ask what changed his mind.


Over the years the anti-Wenger posters have been banned. That is fact.
No, it isn't a fact. Saying something is a fact doesn't make it one. No-one has been banned on here because of anti-Wenger views or because of personal duels with me or any other mod. You seem to be having a personal duel with me - still not quite sure who you are so I've no idea why, neither do I particularly care :lol:.
And yet you're still here.
It's actually very hard to get banned from this place and historically people have always been given multiple chances before any permanent ban is implemented.

Why am I still mod on here? Well, I help pay for the hosting and I pay for the domain. And while others may find me irritating your little vendetta against me aside I don't see a huge campaign for me to be "sacked".

Letters
09-12-2017, 10:35 PM
Letters has a personal issue with both you and Zim.
Only Zim, tbh. Well, even then it's not exactly "personal", I just find myself disagreeing with almost much everything he posts.
Vieira...he has a problem with me. I've no idea who he is and don't really care.

Cripps
09-12-2017, 11:40 PM
No, you can't just switch off being a fan, but you can take a step away from it as many on here have. You can do that as a protest at the situation at the club, because of apathy or whatever.

You really think that's going to do something now? :lol: After all the power and wealth the manager and board have accumulated? :lol:

Which goes back to my original point. If dismissive, condescending fans like you weren't so quick to ridicule us over the years, we might have some sort of power to do something or even had the change we desired by now. But we don't and now you're the one that doesn't watch games anymore :lol:



No, it isn't a fact. Saying something is a fact doesn't make it one. No-one has been banned on here because of anti-Wenger views or because of personal duels with me or any other mod.

You can say it isn't fact until you're blue in the face but it is. Because it's true :lol: I gave you names a few weeks ago and the evidence is there for all to see. There's a few posters just as bad on the other side but guess what, they always get away with it :rolleyes:


And while others may find me irritating your little vendetta against me aside I don't see a huge campaign for me to be "sacked".

Are you for real? :lol: Plenty have made their views on you clear over the past few weeks, you're clearly a very divisive figure that many dislike. But you can do a Wenger and pretend all is well, sweep it under the carpet, but that's a load of tosh and you know it. Plenty more find you irritating but they can't air their views. Because they've been banned.

Xhaka Can’t
09-12-2017, 11:55 PM
Or dead.

Letters
10-12-2017, 07:50 AM
You really think that's going to do something now? :lol: After all the power and wealth the manager and board have accumulated? :lol:
Yes. If people stopped going en masse then I think it would make a difference. The fans are still the ones funding this.
I don't think it will happen but that is the way I think change could be affected. Others have expressed similar views.


You can say it isn't fact until you're blue in the face but it is. Because it's true :lol: I gave you names a few weeks ago and the evidence is there for all to see.
You gave a few names, none of whom were banned for the reasons you stated. I looked into it at the time and it wasn't even me who banned most of them.
So you can say it is a fact until you're blue in the face but it isn't. Because it's false :lol:
Were it true then you wouldn't still be here. Nor would Zim. Nor would NQ.

Others may have certain views about me but I don't think anyone else has called for me to step aside.
You stand alone in that little vendetta, held for reasons known only to yourself :console:

Shall I just change your name to Frank Grimes and be done with it?
Grimey :bow:

Cripps
10-12-2017, 11:10 AM
The similarities between you and Wenger are so striking :lol:

Not only do you worship your messiah but you model yourself based on him too :lol:

And you can call me Dumbledore cause I school your ass on a weekly basis :cool: That's twice I've embarrassed you and bought up old quotes to prove you're a liar and inconsistent :pal:

Me :bow: