Match Reaction Arsenal 2-2 Cheating Chavs

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenker OUT!

[Globalgunner]

When will this madness end?. I am afraid Leicester or Burnley may beat us to 6th place.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We play a bunch of pubbers for a month so a good chance to lose more ground.

[Marc Overmars]

Hell of a match but a point is no good. We’re losing far too much ground now.

Of course our defending made the result a complete lottery. Morata was our best player.

Fuck off Wenker!

[Ralpheroo72]

Copy paste from last debacle

[Cripps]

Another Letters :(

Was it the :rose: ?

[Globalgunner]

Wenger crying about how he was robbed by the ref.......delusion doesnt even cover it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Stop going on about Letters FFS. :lol:

[Özim]

What a joke, Wenger whingeing about the penalty (Bellerin caught Hazard even though he made the most of it) when Wilshere and Holding should have been off and Cesc was booked for getting the ball, as someone said delusional doesn't begin to describe him. If not for Morata we'd have lost convincingly so he should think himself lucky, no sympathy for the guy he's brought it on himself.

Top 4 trophy :lol:

Wenger :lol:

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Stop going on about Letters FFS. :lol:

Why, what’s happened to him. Did he die in a tragic accident where his wife sat on him?

[Özim]

Defence was absolutely shocking, Mustafi was a waste of money and Holding and Chambers really struggled.

Maitland-Niles isn't a defender.

[Cripps]

Why, what’s happened to him. Did he die in a tragic accident where his wife sat on him?

:haha:

[Cripps]

Defence was absolutely shocking, Mustafi was a waste of money and Holding and Chambers really struggled.

Maitland-Niles isn't a defender.

Don't worry we have Konstantinos Mavropanos arriving


































:haha:

[Penguin]

Morata :haha:

Wenger :haha: :haha: :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

What a joke, Wenger whingeing about the penalty (Bellerin caught Hazard even though he made the most of it) when Wilshere and Holding should have been off and Cesc was booked for getting the ball, as someone said delusional doesn't begin to describe him. If not for Morata we'd have lost convincingly so he should think himself lucky, no sympathy for the guy he's brought it on himself.

Top 4 trophy :lol:

Wenger :lol:

But why is Wilshere's dive waved away while Azzaaah's isn't even seen as a dive. Wilshere put his leg in to cheat, and true enough he deserved to get a second card. Azzzzahhh and Bellerin kick boots, pure 50/50 and Azzahhh goes down claiming a pen. Every bit as bad as Jack's. Different outcome that affected the result. It's not our fault Morata is shit, so that has no bearing on Azzaaaahhhs cheaty bullshit. And he does it all the time.

[Özim]

Don't worry we have Konstantinos Mavropanos arriving


































:haha:

He's a wonderkid don't you know!

[Özim]

But why is Wilshere's dive waved away while Azzaaah's isn't even seen as a dive. Wilshere put his leg in to cheat, and true enough he deserved to get a second card. Azzzzahhh and Bellerin kick boots, pure 50/50 and Azzahhh goes down claiming a pen. Every bit as bad as Jack's. Different outcome that affected the result. It's not our fault Morata is shit, so that has no bearing on Azzaaaahhhs cheaty bullshit. And he does it all the time.

Hazard made the most of it, but there was contact, Wilshere just dived without being touched. That's modern day football, thing is if Hazard hadn't gone down he probably wouldn't have got the penalty, players make a meal of it to make sure it's noticed these days, perhaps not right but then if you didn't get the penalty you wouldn't be happy either.

The rules say if there's any contact it's a penalty.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger's whining, of course, is bullshit too. If the old fool can't see the need to fix that defence and do it now, in this window, he's more incompetent than everyone realises. Which is pretty damn incompetent. Off the scale.

[Niall_Quinn]

Hazard made the most of it, but there was contact, Wilshere just dived without being touched.

There was contact because they kicked each others boot. But that's not a foul. There needs to be a foul for a pen to be awarded. The pen was given because azzzaahhhh dived and screamed and rolled around like the scummy cunt he was born to be. Never a pen in a million years. If we're giving pens for that then azzaaahs going to be top scorer in the league.

[Ralpheroo72]

Saw it on Facebook - FACT: If Morata had four shots at Tupac, he would still be alive today!

[Globalgunner]

Hazard made the most of it, but there was contact, Wilshere just dived without being touched. That's modern day football, thing is if Hazard hadn't gone down he probably wouldn't have got the penalty, players make a meal of it to make sure it's noticed these days, perhaps not right but then if you didn't get the penalty you wouldn't be happy either.

The rules say if there's any contact it's a penalty.

Dont think the rules actually say that. The contact must impede the player sufficient to deny him a scoring chance, otherwise there would be 10 pens each game. It is a decision solely up to the ref.

[Cripps]

Arsene Wenger said he would have gone home and “committed suicide” had Chelsea nicked it at the end. He also says he’ll contest FA charge and “stands by every word.”

Morata :doh:

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

What a way to start 2018, with AW's Arsenal doing what they do best.......

If it had been any of the other top 6 teams playing the way we did today, at home, against an indifferent Chelsea side, scoring the 1st goal we did... the game would have ended with a 2 goal difference... minimum....

But AW's Arsenal can't defend and haven't been able to grasp the concept of defending for over a decade now since GG's ghost stopped helping him out.

Just look at the clear chances Morata got despite being saddled with 3 grown centre backs- contrast that to the scraps Lacazette had to make due with despite his huffing and puffing.. it's so pathetic that you know that all a decent team needs to do against us once we score is pile the pressure and they are guaranteed a bone. It's getting so predictable that even if he played 5 CBs and had De Gea in goal , the outcome will still be something like this, because they radiate "pussy" (for lack of a better word ) .... and we all know what the "P" is good for.....

So yeah, pretty entertaining attacking performance but Zero confidence when defending- which means we will go no where this year as usual.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsene Wenger said he would have gone home and “committed suicide” had Chelsea nicked it at the end. He also says he’ll contest FA charge and “stands by every word.”

Morata :doh:

Bloody Bellerin :sulk:

[Niall_Quinn]

Are we really going to have to watch Ozil walking out the door and getting on a plane bound for mancland? Can Wenger get just one thing right this window? Just one thing.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Saw it on Facebook - FACT: If Morata had four shots at Tupac, he would still be alive today!

Tupac should be grateful he wasn’t in front of Morata.

I hadn’t heard of the cunt until he got popped.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

I actually enjoyed the game (seeing as I expected it to go the way it did)..... but the worst thing about today occured after the whistle- seeing AW mini punching the air and all our players so happy and relieved.... and then it dawns on you.........The Arsenal has truly become a mid-table side, London's new Everton!!

[Penguin]

Our defenders were horrible but Wilshere and Xhaka were doing the defenders no justice either. They were getting cut apart at will, always reacting after someone had already gone past them. Absolutely clueless off the ball.

At least Wilshere contributed to the attack and scored a good goal. Xhaka offers nothing to attack OR defence. He doesn't control the game, his passing is average, he can't tackle, he doesn't score, he shits himself when someone closes him down and he gives every team free counter attacks against us with his carelessness. What DOES he do??!

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Saw it on Facebook - FACT: If Morata had four shots at Tupac, he would still be alive today!
:haha:

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Dont think the rules actually say that. The contact must impede the player sufficient to deny him a scoring chance, otherwise there would be 10 pens each game. It is a decision solely up to the ref.
Yeah, and he was going away from the goal...in the good old days a referee would be embarrassed giving that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah, and he was going away from the goal...in the good old days a referee would be embarrassed giving that.

I think the refs are listening to shitheads like Gary Neville more than reading the rulebooks these days. Those shithead pundits are always going on, "there was contact, there was contact", while so-called professionals are hurling themselves through the air screaming as if they've been shot up the arsehole. It's a cheater's charter and the refs are onboard. Unless it's Giroud having his shirt ripped off him and being hauled to the ground in front of goal, in which case the "six of one, half a dozen of the other", rule comes into effect. TV likes the controversy and they like shitty refs. Makes for something to talk about and gets people wound up and emotional. Fuck the rules when there are cars and tampons and DIY transgender kits to be advertised and sold.

[Marc Overmars]

Maitland-Niles isn't a defender.

But he made all those runs!

So let’s ignore the fact he was roasted for their 2nd goal. Not his fault of course, only one person to blame.

[Cripps]

Trump:doh:

[Marc Overmars]

Apparently Cech has dived the wrong way 12 times out of the 15 penalties he’s faced. :lol:

[selassie]

But he made all those runs!

So let’s ignore the fact he was roasted for their 2nd goal. Not his fault of course, only one person to blame.

Yep. I think AMN has the potential to be an outstanding central midfielder for us, he is great on the ball, strong in the tackle, is quick and very calm in possession. This boy could be our “Kante” IMO yet Wenger has him out at left back developing, it defies logic.

[Niall_Quinn]

Yep. I think AMN has the potential to be an outstanding central midfielder for us, he is great on the ball, strong in the tackle, is quick and very calm in possession. This boy could be our “Kante” IMO yet Wenger has him out at left back developing, it defies logic.

As well we have Reiss Nelson who can play there.

[selassie]

As well we have Reiss Nelson who can play there.

:lol:

[Xhaka Can’t]

Apparently Cech has dived the wrong way 12 times out of the 15 penalties he’s faced. :lol:

I don’t see the need to go through the formality of a penalty kick against us.

Just award a goal and head back to the centre circle.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The difference between how we played last night and how we played on Sunday is marked. Suggests that Ozil is going to be the player we miss when he goes. Also no Iwobi stinking out the place

Three at the back is clearly a non starter especially when you play two defenders who have hardly played in ages. Wenger doesn’t rotate, he just waits till a player gets injured.

I know a lot of people here do not like Mustafi, I think he and Holding could be a decent centre back partnership with the right coaching.

We have a lot of average players, but a lot of decent players. For me we have probably stalled our progression for five years by retaining Wenger. A new manager and Ozil and Sanchez would either have been sold or would have signed a new deal.

With the exception of Liverpool away and city we have on the whole played reasonably well against the top six sides this season. This hasn’t been reflected in points because of Wenger and his tactics which means we start slow.

[GP]

We need to go back to a back 4 so we can put an extra man in midfield, though we would need to buy a specialist DM for that to work.

[Özim]

Ozil has been fantastic recently, he is a top player one that just hasn't been performing up until this season but when he does he's a real asset. Whether it's too late for us is another matter, he may well go, I don't really understand why he woudn't have signed by now if he was staying.

We were awful at the back yesterday, Chambers was shocking and I'm just not convinced with this guy, Holding struggled as well but he's young, Mustafi though had a shocker a string of bad errors, for 35 million much like Xhaka he just hasn't performed well at all, a very disappointing signing.

The front three are great and there's a few others who are decent, but there's definitely a lot of players we could replace now, our squad isn't really that good and our team needs improvement.

We've played OK against the top 6, but in the end we've only won 1, we've drawn 3 (2 at home) and lost 3 so far so that's not a great record, 6 points out of 21 and the fact is we needed to win the last 2 and have failed to do so, that's a pretty poor return.

[Cripps]

January transfer news and rumours -'Liverpool line up Thomas Lemar as Philippe Coutinho replacement' https://t.co/NOUhmUkjdL

:lol: :rose:

[Özim]

The penalty decision, the last angle shows Bellerin displaced Hazards foot, soft no doubt bu tcan see why it was a penalty:

http://arsenalist.com/f/2017-18/arsenal-vs-chelsea/another-very-soft-penalty-call-against-arsenal.html

[Özim]

January transfer news and rumours -'Liverpool line up Thomas Lemar as Philippe Coutinho replacement' https://t.co/NOUhmUkjdL

:lol: :rose:

I think the Lemar thing is done and dusted as far as we're concerned, we had a chance whilst no other decent club was interested but now it's over. Nice whilst it lasted.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The points return has been awful. United we killed ourselves in first ten minutes, Liverpool terrible first half, Chelsea make shift defence and terrible penalty decision. At home especially this suggests this team is capable of beating anyone but has to contend with Wengeritis.

I tend to agree about Chambers I think we probably have to cut our losses on him. But I think Mustafi is capable of top performances just doesn’t deliver them consistently.

[Marc Overmars]

It’s pretty clear to see that we’re capable of competing with the top teams in this league but there’s no good getting up for certain games and being distinctly lacklustre inbetween. We’re not even beating the top teams anyway so I’m not sure how much we can take away.

We’re being weighed down by the manager, this club is absolutely crying out for a new guy at the helm. For anyone still concerned about life after Wenger, look at what we’re doing now, was this not the fear anyway? Only it’s happening under Wenger and not someone else.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It’s pretty clear to see that we’re capable of competing with the top teams in this league but there’s no good getting up for certain games and being distinctly lacklustre inbetween. We’re not even beating the top teams anyway so I’m not sure how much we can take away.

We’re being weighed down by the manager, this club is absolutely crying out for a new guy at the helm. For anyone still concerned about life after Wenger, look at what we’re doing now, was this not the fear anyway? Only it’s happening under Wenger and not someone else.

I’m really not sure what anyone could possibly have to fear. I think the fact is with certain people no amount of evidence no matter how glaring can make them change their minds.

[Özim]

At the end of the day, you can say what you like about competing against the big teams but we're way behind in the league and even in the games against the big teams we've only won 1 out of 7, those are the facts really, the reality is it's about winning those games not getting draws and losses which is what we ended up with. At home we should be winning games against Chelsea, Liverpool etc especially as away we generally lose those games.

I don't buy the competing thing, if we'd won those matches then fine you could argue a case for it, but we haven't, history doesn't remember the performance.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

At the end of the day, you can say what you like about competing against the big teams but we're way behind in the league and even in the games against the big teams we've only won 1 out of 7, those are the facts really, the reality is it's about winning those games not getting draws and losses which is what we ended up with. At home we should be winning games against Chelsea, Liverpool etc especially as away we generally lose those games.

I don't buy the competing thing, if we'd won those matches then fine you could argue a case for it, but we haven't, history doesn't remember the performance.

The argument isn’t that we are competing, it’s that we have the team to compete just being held back by l’ouisseau

[Özim]

The argument isn’t that we are competing, it’s that we have the team to compete just being held back by l’ouisseau

I think the front 3 are good (although 2 are possibly leaving so that's the front 3 messed up again), the midfield has one or two that are decent but other than than the team needs rebuilding. The defence just isn't right and even the goalkeeper might need replacing.

The squad is also lacking, just look at the options we had off the bench, very average players.

Wenger definitely holds us back, partly because he won't sign anyone decent and also because he's clueless and no doubt they would improve under a better manager, but to be honest the defence and midfield will need work, a will the attack if we lose Ozil and Sanchez.

[Niall_Quinn]

The biased cunt speaks:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5233299/GRAHAM-POLL-Jack-Wilshere-deserved-red-stupid-dive.html

Here's the reason the pen was given - the cheat azzzaahhhh diving and screaming. But no ban for him. Not so blind for Wilshere's antics, the biased cunt managed to spot that. What a surprise.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/03/22/47BC7B8100000578-0-image-a-27_1515017605139.jpg

[Globalgunner]

So 3 yellows Poll has the nerve to open his mouth in polite society.
Shut up fool!

[Niall_Quinn]

So 3 yellows Poll has the nerve to open his mouth in polite society.
Shut up fool!

The stupid biased cheating cunt and notorious Man Utd favourite says:


Jack Wilshere should have been sent off for an outrageous dive but luckily for him, referee Anthony Taylor’s view was blocked by a number of players.

The Arsenal midfielder was right to be cautioned in the first half when he brought down Cesc Fabregas with a reckless tackle.

But knowing he was on a yellow card, he was stupid to dive over Andreas Christensen in the second half.

But Jack didn't dive in the box, so no yellow. However, Azzzaaaahhh did dive in the box. Yellow card.

Poll gets it 100% wrong.

He's as consistent as ever.

[GP]

If it's a pen then so is the one on AMN.

[Niall_Quinn]

If it's a pen then so is the one on AMN.

Poll doesn't mention that. Doesn't support his decades long anti-Arsenal narrative.

[Özim]

The stupid biased cheating cunt and notorious Man Utd favourite says:



But Jack didn't dive in the box, so no yellow. However, Azzzaaaahhh did dive in the box. Yellow card.

Poll gets it 100% wrong.

He's as consistent as ever.

There's always a distinction if there's contact, if there's contact and they dive they don't get punished, if they don't get clipped they do.

Wilshere just dived without being touched so there is a difference, although Hazards was certainly a case of making a meal of it to make sure he got the penalty, in the end Bellerin clipped him though so he was entitled to the penalty.

Players don't get punished if a foul is given.

[Niall_Quinn]

There's always a distinction if there's contact, if there's contact and they dive they don't get punished, if they don't get clipped they do.

Wilshere just dived without being touched so there is a difference, although Hazards was certainly a case of making a meal of it to make sure he got the penalty, in the end Bellerin clipped him though so he was entitled to the penalty.

Players don't get punished if a foul is given.

It wasn't a foul. The two players kicked each other's boot. Does it make a difference if it is a boot, rather than say arms brushing as they go up for a header? Not logically or reasonably, but in Taylor's scrambled brain maybe. Taylor just opted to cheat. He does it a lot. I doubt he got a cash stuffed envelope, I think he just does it to be a cunt, like Dean.

[Marc Overmars]

The penalty was soft as hell, it was given because Hazard made a meal of it. If that’s outside the box, I’m not even convinced it’s a free kick.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

But he made all those runs!

So let’s ignore the fact he was roasted for their 2nd goal. Not his fault of course, only one person to blame.

Do people really expect the full back to cut out every cross that comes in......what about the 3 CB's standing in a line who can't get to the ball before the whatever tart in blue scored...?

[Niall_Quinn]

The penalty was soft as hell, it was given because Hazard made a meal of it. If that’s outside the box, I’m not even convinced it’s a free kick.

Just as we both called the Maitland pen appeal soft at the time, once the replay was seen. What people defending Hazard are really saying is Maitland should have dived into the air screaming and then rolled around a lot. But then when Jack tries it that's frowned on. So it's all a bit confusing. Seems to me is the safest bet is to play for the chavs or Utd and then the pen is guaranteed regardless.

[Power n Glory]

Do people really expect the full back to cut out every cross that comes in......what about the 3 CB's standing in a line who can't get to the ball before the whatever tart in blue scored...?

True. It's impossible to stop every cross and not every cross is the perfect setup. Sometimes it's just down to bad marking. It's like the goal Townsend scored against us when Kolasinac fell asleep on the back post. It was a poor cross and better marking would have snuffed the problem out right away.

[Marc Overmars]

Do people really expect the full back to cut out every cross that comes in......what about the 3 CB's standing in a line who can't get to the ball before the whatever tart in blue scored...?

Of course not but he was ball watching, left too much space for that bloke to turn him inside out. You’re right about the defenders in the box though, so static.

[Niall_Quinn]

Do people really expect the full back to cut out every cross that comes in......what about the 3 CB's standing in a line who can't get to the ball before the whatever tart in blue scored...?

No, but then again he's not a full back to begin with. And it shows. Not that Wenger would notice. Wenger has overloaded us with too many technical wide players, Niles is one of them competing with about 900 others for 2 spots. So Wenger shoves him into defence because he can't be arsed to get enough proper defenders in. All Wenger's fault, not Niles fault. He'll do what he can and he may even learn the role and develop into a decent defender, though that is highly unlikely under Wenger. And if Wenger spotted that happening he'd drop him anyway.

And I'm not even joking. The guy's a loon.

[Power n Glory]

No, but then again he's not a full back to begin with. And it shows. Not that Wenger would notice. Wenger has overloaded us with too many technical wide players, Niles is one of them competing with about 900 others for 2 spots. So Wenger shoves him into defence because he can't be arsed to get enough proper defenders in. All Wenger's fault, not Niles fault. He'll do what he can and he may even learn the role and develop into a decent defender, though that is highly unlikely under Wenger. And if Wenger spotted that happening he'd drop him anyway.

And I'm not even joking. The guy's a loon.

The new Gibbs.

Coquelin and Flamini faced the same dilemma. They couldn't play in their natural positions and Wenger tried to the squeeze them in as fullbacks. We see the same thing with players like Iwobi, Ramsey, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox being played out wide.

Nothing to do with player education and development.

[Niall_Quinn]

The new Gibbs.

Coquelin and Flamini faced the same dilemma. They couldn't play in their natural positions and Wenger tried to the squeeze them in as fullbacks. We see the same thing with players like Iwobi, Ramsey, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox being played out wide.

Nothing to do with player education and development.

Clichy was one of the first signs of things going bad. He should have been a natural successor to Cole but he developed so far and then stalled and started to go backwards. That Cole transfer was bad. The rot really started to spread after that.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Of course not but he was ball watching, left too much space for that bloke to turn him inside out. You’re right about the defenders in the box though, so static.

He followed the guy and tried to close him down up until he crossed it in. He saved us a few times in the game too. Giroud has scored the exact same goal many times and not because the opposition allowed us to cross....it is more a result of him stealing ahead of a single defender......and we had 3 of ours there.