This Weekend's Fixtures & Watford v Chelsea

[Letters]

Add to the fact that Officials are completely untouchable and unaccountable for their 'mistakes'. They can never be questioned or called upon to explain themselves, yes they get 'demoted' to the championship, but it's only one official every couple of years, it's all for show, otherwise we would only have half the amount of officials left every season!
That :good:

There are very few other jobs where there is zero accountability or consequence for incompetence (well, the Public Sector maybe...)
HCZ's point about refereeing not getting worse, just being under more scrutiny. There is something in that but the officiating sure as hell hasn't got better, what's the point of them being professionals if they're not any better than they were when they were amateurs?

[Globalgunner]

Breaking news

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42943628

Medicine after death...but will they pass it forward?. Seems the refs dont even know how to apply their own rules.

[Globalgunner]

......and this
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42942808.

The berk doesnt even realise that he is only exposing himself. The rules dont say"If you feel any contact while in the box, you are okay to take a dive"

These morons are sure as hell going to embarrass themselves squarely at the WC. It goes to show that at Tottenham they are being trained to go down in the box.

[Niall_Quinn]

Neither do the rules state if there's contact it's a penalty. Mere contact counts for nothing, it has to be a foul for a penalty to be given. Not even obstruction in the box gets a penalty -
so why does mere contact warrant one? After the Lamela outrage are we going to see crickets scores as a result of strikers just running into defenders and leaping into the air? No -
it won't happen. So why was that penalty awarded? But the refs, of all people, don't seem to know the rules.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wazza is in the studio for MNF. :lol:

[Globalgunner]

Moss is a berk and should be struck off. initially he waved off the pen. After discussing with the linesman, he still wasnt sure that Lovren did touch the ball. However, he decides to give the pen anyway, even when he is NOT sure. A pen that he initially did not want to give. Pure pubbery....or corruption.

Same thing with the 2nd pen. initially he waved it away....then gives it after the linesman waves.

[Niall_Quinn]

Moss is a berk and should be struck off. initially he waved off the pen. After discussing with the linesman, he still wasnt sure that Lovren did touch the ball. However, he decides to give the pen anyway, even when he is NOT sure. A pen that he initially did not want to give. Pure pubbery....or corruption.

Same thing with the 2nd pen. initially he waved it away....then gives it after the linesman waves.

In the last minutes of the match it was the linesman in charge and the ref was taking instruction directly from him. That's incredibly suspicious. When Moss waves away the pens, what happens to make him reconsider? Who's talking to him? Who calls it back? Either it's the guy on the sidelines, acting via the linesman, or it's the linesman himself. Or how do we know the ref's don't get instructions directly from AsiaBet.com through their earpiece? We don't, we just trust it's all above board which is pretty naive really.

Last night though was a blatant case of corruption. The linesman was bent for sure, no doubt about that at all.

In fact if Moss had been doing his job both Kane and Lamela should have been booked, and I think that meant Lamela would have been off? But he didn't apply the rules and so opened the door for the linesman and whoever was instructing him to intervene.

This will all be brushed under the carpet. Anyone who points out what they saw with their own eyes will be laughed out of the room by the donkey patrol.

[Cripps]

There's fucking state sponsored doping so don't tell me there's no corruption :lol:

[Cripps]

Neither do the rules state if there's contact it's a penalty. Mere contact counts for nothing, it has to be a foul for a penalty to be given. Not even obstruction in the box gets a penalty -
so why does mere contact warrant one? After the Lamela outrage are we going to see crickets scores as a result of strikers just running into defenders and leaping into the air? No -
it won't happen. So why was that penalty awarded? But the refs, of all people, don't seem to know the rules.

Mere contact now warrants one because of things like Sky Sports Cunts and their analysis in studios after games where they slow down incidents and zoom in on an incident and say "ahh but look he's touched him". It all started with Keys and Gray and now the likes of Neville and Carragher have carried the mantle.

I remember Andy Gray was once reviewing an incident, it was clearly not a penalty but he slowed it down and showed there was a slight touch, then said "the defenders touched him and invited the striker to go down". Keys was in shock at what he was hearing but Gray was adamant.

That's how ideas evolve. Scrutiny, analysis and debate.

It's a disease that's ruining football.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford: Karnezis; Mariappa, Prodl, Holebas; Janmaat, Doucoure, Capoue, Zeegelaar; Deulofeu, Deeney, Richarlison
Subs: Bachmann, Mukena, Ndong, Pereyra, Lukebakio, Carrillo, Gray.

Chelsea: Courtois; Azpilicueta, David Luiz, Cahill; Moses, Bakayoko, Kante, Zappacosta; Willian, Hazard, Pedro.
Subs: Caballero, Rudiger, Emerson, Drinkwater, Fabregas, Hudson-Odoi, Giroud.

[Globalgunner]

They will get their comeuppance at the WC. Refs from all over the world not all dunces like John Moss. Didnt someone recently mention that no EPL refs have been invited to officiate in Russia. This from the nation that invented and still control the rules of the game.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save from Cahill.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bakayoko. :lol:

Terrible.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Awful shot from Doucoure.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deulofeu productive as ever with the ball.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deeney. :haha:

WTF is that?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willian blazes over.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Second yellow for Bakayoko, off he goes! :haha:

He has been abysmal all season, good news for Chelsea.

[Cripps]

Red card. Bakayoyo :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Bakayoko makes Xhaka look like prime Xavi.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willian hauled off, Cesc on. :lol:

I don't think Conte gives a shit at this point.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Richarlison smacks it, Courtois with the ISS save attempt but fumbled it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Conte has been strangling some imaginary kittens according to the commentator. :blink:

And Sky apologise they happen to catch some swearing sometimes?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Watford! :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dive from Deulofeu. Good lad.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 1-0 Chelsea, Mr. Cojones!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Chelsea :lol:

Don't have the cajones.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deeney booked.

[Cripps]

"Contact" :lol:

[Cripps]

Why do keepers come out like that? They know players will 100% dive in that situation.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pedro sends it out of the solar system.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 1-0 Chelsea, HT.

Bakayoko. :haha:

[Globalgunner]

This diving thing is now an epidemic. Is the keeper simply supposed to allow the opposition player the freedom of the box.? Spurs showing everyone the way.

[Cripps]

One of the worse performances by any #cfc I've ever seen...#cfc fans singing 'you're f***ing sh*t' as Bakayoko went off

:lol:

[Globalgunner]

Why do keepers come out like that? They know players will 100% dive in that situation.

One day a keeper will pretend to dive into the player and pull out early. Then Kane and Alli will dive over an invisible man.

[Niall_Quinn]

The refs and authorities won't do anything, the players and the clubs certainly won't, and the pundits and the media positively encourage it (unless it's Pires). The fans will have to do something about this. Maybe something like a Diving Cunt Weekly Hall of Shame that every fan commits to, even Utd and spud fans who would be mostly watching their players win the awards every week. If the majority of fans couldn't get behind that, like the get behind fucking poof laces and anti-racist bollocks in a sport that has to be close to half black and definitely foreign, then it's a lost cause and part of the increasingly shitty game.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ultra cunts Carragher and Rooney both agree that fucking horrendous DIVE was a penalty.

Shame.

Shame.

Shame.

[Niall_Quinn]

The red card was also well beyond ridiculous.

Chhhhhhhhh - soft chhhhhhhhh - keeeeeeeeeeeeeerds, says the cunt Carragher.

But there was a TOUCH, you cunt! There was a TOUCH!

And that's all that counts, right?

[Cripps]

One day a keeper will pretend to dive into the player and pull out early. Then Kane and Alli will dive over an invisible man.

It happened yesterday. Lovren pulled out and Alli was booked for diving.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The reffing has been appalling (it's Mike Dean what do you expect) but still ..... it's funny cos it's Chelsea and not us on the receiving end of it for a change. :haha::haha:

[Globalgunner]

Rooney is quite the expert. I wonder what Stevie Starfish thinks

[Niall_Quinn]

Rooney is quite the expert. I wonder what Stevie Starfish thinks

I suppose, grudgingly, if I'm forced to be fair about it, Rooney is the worst diver in the history of the game. I think the fact he's not been at the top level for years disguises his truly shameful and diabolical history. One of the most overrated players of all time and one of the biggest cheats ever to disgrace the game.

[Cripps]

Are Sky Sports Cunts following the BT Shite trend and hiring any old footballer to analyse games? Rooney is fucking useless.

[Niall_Quinn]

Are Sky Sports Cunts following the BT Shite trend and hiring any old footballer to analyse games? Rooney is fucking useless.

He's also fat.

And a cunt.

[Cripps]

He's also fat.

And a cunt.

Enough about Letters. What about Rooney?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Prodl booked. Moses and Zeegelaar clash heads, Moses absolutely clattered him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Are Sky Sports Cunts following the BT Shite trend and hiring any old footballer to analyse games? Rooney is fucking useless.

Wayne, what does that [Kane taking 2nd pelanty] say about his mental strength?

Wazza: It shows he's strong. :haha:

[Cripps]

Wayne, what does that [Kane taking 2nd pelanty] say about his mental strength?

Wazza: It shows he's strong. :haha:

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wayne, what does that [Kane taking 2nd pelanty] say about his mental strength?

Wazza: It shows he's strong. :haha:

And it shows Wazza is mental.

Though Robbie Savage still marks the low tide for me. Wazza would have to go scuba diving in a heavily utilised sewer to match Savage in terms of punditry.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

David Luiz with a blatant kick out, somehow only a yellow?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deulofeu tries to comb it in, wide it goes. Richarlison does the same!

[Niall_Quinn]

David Luiz with a blatant kick out, somehow only a yellow?

Don't even think it should have bee a card. Little prod and a big guy goes down like he's been shot. Should have been booked for embarrassing himself and all of us.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pedro is dead, Bif coming on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Don't even think it should have bee a card. Little prod and a big guy goes down like he's been shot. Should have been booked for embarrassing himself and all of us.

It was however a deliberate kick which I thought did warrant a red. I think I've come to realise I know absolutely fuck all thanks to these ridiculous officials.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Richarlison off, Pereyra on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Courtois with a Hollywood save off Doucoure.

[Niall_Quinn]

It was however a deliberate kick which I thought did warrant a red. I think I've come to realise I know absolutely fuck all thanks to these ridiculous officials.

You have to be called Gabriel to get sent off for stuff like that. In this case, the player is not called Gabriel.

[Niall_Quinn]

Not nice seeing Bif in a chav suit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Capoue. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Holebas smacked that one but right down Courtois' throat.

[Niall_Quinn]

Holebas smacked that one but right down Courtois' throat.

Hope he chokes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Cesc jusr dropped the Ashes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 1-1 Chelsea, Hazard flukes it in.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

bollocks.

[Niall_Quinn]

Somehow azzzaaahhh has managed to fluke it into the net.

1-1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Deulofeu you useless fuck.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 2-1 Chelsea, JANMAAT!!!!

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Looks like he was trying to play it wide but it sliced off his boot and the mishit flew into the net.

[Niall_Quinn]

The ball got in the way of Delafukus dive.

[Niall_Quinn]

Great goal.

2-1

:haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

Some guy wearing yellow scored it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 3-1 Chelsea, DEULOFEU!!!!

:haha:

Deflected in but great.

[Niall_Quinn]

3-1

:haha:

:haha:

[GP]

Antonio Gone-te

[Niall_Quinn]

6 added minutes :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 4-1 Chelsea, PEREYRA!!!!

:haha:

Amazing.

[Niall_Quinn]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

4-1

[GP]

Fuck a doodle do

[Niall_Quinn]

5 points behind these pubbers. We must get 3 points against the spuds.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bif with a classic miss.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Watford 4-1 Chelsea, FT!!!!

What a shellacking. :haha:

Conte. :wave:

Abramovich. :haha:

Bakayoko. :haha:

Dids. :haha:

Hazard. :haha:

Cesc. :haha:

Merse. :haha:

Chopper Harris. :haha:

Agent Bif. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

FT 4-1 :haha:

Tim Vickery :haha:

Ossie Ardiles :haha:

[Globalgunner]

the craziest mistake Conte made was to get rid of Costa....most effective player along with Hazard. The loss of Costa has affected Aaazard too.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I turned off after Hazard equalised thinking that Chelsea had done enough to get a point. :lol:


btw,

Tim Vickery :haha:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/01/hiddink-always-the-same-attitude-img_.jpg

[McNamara That Ghost...]

FT 4-1 :haha:

Tim Vickery :haha:

Ossie Ardiles :haha:

Me. :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

If we beat Spuds we'd be two points of the top four. Unthinkable two matches ago.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Nice of the teams above us to toy with us by giving us some hope of top 4......

[Master Splinter]

Abramovich. :haha:

Bakayoko. :haha:

Dids. :haha:

Hazard. :haha:

Cesc. :haha:

Merse. :haha:

Chopper Harris. :haha:

Agent Bif. :bow:


You forgot:

Big Man :haha:.

Another Maccy Mistake.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No room for an 11th.

[Niall_Quinn]

Nice of the teams above us to toy with us by giving us some hope of top 4......

Now we need our lot to comprehensively smash that hope against the rocks and grind it into the sand.

[Master Splinter]

Bif and Cuntchez already contributing heavily to getting us into the top four.

Wenger :bow:.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bif and Cuntchez already contributing heavily to getting us into the top four.

Wenger :bow:.

Yes, but Cech is doing quite well also.

[Master Splinter]

Yes, but Cech is doing quite well also.

As well you must see that we have also Xhaka who can self-destruct there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Who does this Sky cunt interviewer think he is?

Deck him Conte!

[Marc Overmars]

Same old Chelsea really, successful one season and dire the next.

On to the next manager it seems.

Conte. :wave:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Tuchel, Simeone or Serri will be the likely options I guess.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Time for a Wazza suckfest now.

[Cripps]

Combat 18 :haha:

Cunte :haha:

Fire Hazard :haha:

Cesc :haha:

Bakayoyo :haha:

JT :haha:

Fat Frank :haha:

Giroud :haha: spent more time on the floor than doing anything useful :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Giroud is only on an 18 month deal. :lol:

He’ll be on the scrap heap soon.

[AFC Leveller]

Imagine we'd lost two straight games 7-1 against shit teams! Wenger would be shot dead.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Watching the highlights on SSN this morning, they were commenting on the penalty.

They didn't say much but were trying to allude to there not being much contact, was it a penalty?

Bloody cheek tbh. A carbon copy of Kane's heroic dive but because it wasn't him, it gets questioned. And so the illusion continues :rolleyes:

[Özim]

Chelsea have been shockingly poor recently, Conte is doing a terrible job at the moment, the signings have been all wrong, the performances awful and it's just not working.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Yeh, either he has lost the plot or can't handle the russian pressure cooker.

Either way, he'll be gone soon.

[HCZ]

Imagine we'd lost two straight games 7-1 against shit teams! Wenger would be shot dead.

We’ve lost two straight away games 5-2 to shit teams

[Cripps]

Football :lol:
Awful sport.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Chelsea have been shockingly poor recently, Conte is doing a terrible job at the moment, the signings have been all wrong, the performances awful and it's just not working.

If the signings aren't his...shouldn't he be cut some slack? They've been poor in any case, you're right but what else would they do other than hire and fire managers on cue.

[KSE Comedy Club]

He was getting angry in his press conference after the game.

He said, all everyone kept asking him about was his job :lol:

[Letters]

http://newsthump.com/2018/02/06/dele-alli-caught-cheating-on-girlfriend-and-also-at-football/

:d

[Niall_Quinn]

Hard to believe that some people are stupid enough to use iCloud.

[Özim]

If the signings aren't his...shouldn't he be cut some slack? They've been poor in any case, you're right but what else would they do other than hire and fire managers on cue.

Hard to tell if they are his or not, but if they're not I'm sure he would get some leeway, he doesn't have to play them after all. Morata has been a shocker and I think he was very keen on him (always thought he was useless myself).

Regardless of signings though, to lose to Bournemouth and Watford as convincingly as he has isn't acceptable, the were also very abject against us IMO.

[HCZ]

It’s not acceptable but I think Chelsea are the opposite extreme to us.

We don’t sack our manager when we should, they sack their manager at the drop of a hat

Their success has been disjointed because of it, manager has one good season, one bad season and is then sacked

Mourinho deserved it because he was being a cunt and just created a toxic atmosphere, but if Conte is good enough to win thirty games in a 38 game season....sacking him the season after is precipitous and creates more instability

However if it negatively affects Chelsea, I’m all for it

[Özim]

From an outsiders point of view he's doing a terrible job, the signings have been poor, the performances very average and now they're getting thrashed by smaller clubs.

Must admit I'm not convinced with him, something just isn't right at Chelsea, their performance against us was really poor, I'd personally get rid of him whilst Chelsea are still well placed, if it carries on they may well drop out of the top 4.

Morata, Giroud are odd signings IMO, they needed a different kind of forward, Aubameyang would have made sense for them, glad they didn't go for him though as we wouldn't have got him otherwise.

[Marc Overmars]

This always happens at Chelsea. Abramovich is king and the moment you don’t tow the line the writing is on the wall.

They’ll ditch Conte and probably enjoy success after him before repeating the cycle again.

[HCZ]

This always happens at Chelsea. Abramovich is king and the moment you don’t tow the line the writing is on the wall.

They’ll ditch Conte and probably enjoy success after him before repeating the cycle again.

If they do it’s unlikely to be before the end of the season now

I don’t think there’s evidence of them going into free fall. Watford has to be put in context of playing most of the game with ten men.

[Özim]

Bournemouth humbled them 3-0 as well though, plus they conceded 3 goals very quickly. Ignoring those two results though, they haven't looked convincing at all.

[Marc Overmars]

If they do it’s unlikely to be before the end of the season now

I don’t think there’s evidence of them going into free fall. Watford has to be put in context of playing most of the game with ten men.

Well yeah this season is unlikely to yield anything substational for them. They’re never out of the picture for too long though, uncle Roman will buy his way back in.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If they do it’s unlikely to be before the end of the season now

I don’t think there’s evidence of them going into free fall. Watford has to be put in context of playing most of the game with ten men.
I tend to agree, but as you indicated, a title gets you a pat on the back but it doesnt get you patience or significant trust.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's clear that Roman isn't prepared to spend the big bucks to compete with the spending of the Manchester clubs and now it's up to the club to be self sufficient and stand on it's own two feet.

Sadly I think the way it's going to be the two Manchester out on a limb in terms of financial power: one backed up with the sovereign wealth fund of a state and the other with bundles of cash thanks to their ridiculous commercial power. I suspect us, Chelsea and Liverpool will be on more of an even footing from here onwards with Spurs slightly behind us.