Scum away. Saturday 12.30pm. BT shite.

[Cripps]

9 wins out of last 10 at Wembley :pray:

Unleash AMO at them... Aubameyang, Mkhitaryan, Ozil :bow:

Or go full madness... LMAO... Lacazette, Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang, Ozil :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Put a man marker on their linesman. That's the key.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They play Newport midweek so I wonder if that filth can inflict some damage.

Newport too.

[Goonermerree]

They will try to cheat their way to victory. I hadn't realised that Kane was in the United half when spurs kicked off, anything to get ahead.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Watch Kane and Deli Ali dive like pro's every chance they get.

Who's the likely Ref for this?

[GP]

Mike Dean

[HCZ]

Mike Dean

:haha:

FFS - is that actually true?

Is that part of Wengers punishment?

[GP]

No idea, just made it up.

Wouldn't be surprised, though.

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully Mustafi has another worldie like he did earlier in the season when he stuck Kane in his pocket.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Mike Dean

That's what worries me.

Although, it depends who he thinks is the greater threat to Utd tbh.

[GP]

Anthony Taylor will referee

[LDG]

Anthony Taylor will referee

That's almost as bad as Dean :crying:

[Niall_Quinn]

That's almost as bad as Dean :crying:

He's random. But he'll make at least one idiotic call. We just have to hope it falls in our favour.

Unlikely given that Kane and Alli can cheat at a much higher rate than we can.

[AFC Leveller]

Ospina will start ahead of Cech, according to reports.

Not surprised at all because Cech has been error prone lately but Ospina is too flappy and unpredictable, he is the opposite of steady.

[HCZ]

Ospina will start ahead of Cech, according to reports.

Not surprised at all because Cech has been error prone lately but Ospina is too flappy and unpredictable, he is the opposite of steady.

Him and Ramsey were pretty much completely responsible for our defeat at WHL in 2015

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

What state is Welbeck in?

[AFC Leveller]

Him and Ramsey were pretty much completely responsible for our defeat at WHL in 2015

Yeah that game was a shocker. Ospina for me is not good enough in these big high pressure games. Spuds will bombard him with crosses and we know he cant deal with them.

[LDG]

What state is Welbeck in?

Florida, hopefully

[LDG]

Kane says being released from Arsenal aged 8 is the best thing that's ever happened to him.

If he'd won a trophy by now then that would have been, but he hasn't. We've won a few since getting rid of the lispy cunt though.

[Cripps]

What state is Welbeck in?

In a state of bewilderment at how he's a professional footballer.

[Niall_Quinn]

Kane says being released from Arsenal aged 8 is the best thing that's ever happened to him.

If he'd won a trophy by now then that would have been, but he hasn't. We've won a few since getting rid of the lispy cunt though.

All ex-Arsenal wide boy dopey gits ends up in that dump. Like that twat Bentley.

(except Jack)

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Hard to know how to play this as so many played really well last game but considering Spurs will leave space behind I'd throw caution to the win with a finger on the Ramsey button if needed and spend the week drilling the midfield and making sure they are looking to cover Mhiki and Hector when they venture forward.

---------------Ospina----------------

-----Mustafi----Kos----Monreal------

Bell-----Wilshere----Elneny----Mhiki

-----------------Ozil-------------------

----------Lacaz-----Aubame----------

[selassie]

We really need to win this one to put that lot in their place after beating them earlier on in the season. I still think they will take the last spot for top 4 so a win against them on Saturday will still give them something to worry about.

[HCZ]

Hard to know how to play this as so many played really well last game but considering Spurs will leave space behind I'd throw caution to the win with a finger on the Ramsey button if needed and spend the week drilling the midfield and making sure they are looking to cover Mhiki and Hector when they venture forward.

---------------Ospina----------------

-----Mustafi----Kos----Monreal------

Bell-----Wilshere----Elneny----Mhiki

-----------------Ozil-------------------

----------Lacaz-----Aubame----------


Mine would be similar except no Monreal (too slow will get murdered by Aurier) unless you’re proposing to play Mhkytarian as a wing back

And no back three

Kolasinac is strong enough to deal with Aurier as well as pacey

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I was yes....it's not ideal but I figured if we can make Iwobi do it on occasion then why not Mhiki? I know many find it perverse to play such players there but if we accept a wingers defensive duties in a 442 (even if it is covered by others in practice) why can't we in a back 3 system? I also am unconvinced by Kola, especially of late and think he has done little to warrant a start over AMN, a player who I would be wanting to play in midfield were it not the North London derby.

[HCZ]

I was yes....it's not ideal but I figured if we can make Iwobi do it on occasion then why not Mhiki? I know many find it perverse to play such players there but if we accept a wingers defensive duties in a 442 (even if it is covered by others in practice) why can't we in a back 3 system? I also am unconvinced by Kola, especially of late and think he has done little to warrant a start over AMN, a player who I would be wanting to play in midfield were it not the North London derby.

He’s hardly played enough to convince anyone one way or the other

Like I say putting Monreal up against Aurier which you would almost certainly end up doing because Mhkytarian would drift out of position is not an option.

Well it is an option, if the option is “we want to lose this game”

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

You don't know that Aurier will even definitely play...but that is why I suggested El neny and Wilshere should be drilled on covering full backs (not to say I expect it to happen).

RE: Kolasanic.......There are two things at hand. One is whether he has convinced me enough to reasonably imagine him being the long term left back.

....the other is whether he has convinced me enough of whether he should start this particular game. He may yet convince me of the former but as of yet he has convinced me of neither.

It's a risky strategy with Mhikitarayan but I prefer to throw caution to wind as I don't think we are going to cautiously tip tap our way into the top 4 from the position we find ourselves in now.

Wenger won't play him there in that system anyway, as well you know.

[Niall_Quinn]

My team that I suggested the other day is the correct one. So I'm not sure why people are debating this.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mauricio Pochettino fears that English football’s tendency towards over-analysis, and its fixation on minor issues like diving, is slowly “killing the game”. Speaking after Dele Alli was booked for simulation in the 2-2 draw against Liverpool at Anfield on Sunday - his third such offence in as many seasons - Pochettino voiced his belief that the general mood of moral panic within the game, over what he described as “minimal details”, risks stifling football’s natural expression.

Pochettino also reserved harsh judgement for the use of video technology, saying that human refereeing errors were an intrinsic part of the game. Likewise, he argued that simulation on the pitch, while an offence rightly punishable under the laws of the game, was simply a sporting tactic rather than anything more sinister, insisting: “Football is about trying to trick your opponent.”

The Tottenham manager has admitted in the past that during his playing days at Newell’s Old Boys and Estudiantes, diving to win a penalty from the referee was regarded as a skill, one even practised in training. And Pochettino’s distaste for English moralising is underpinned by the fact that it was his leg over which Michael Owen dived during the 2002 World Cup, ultimately sending England through to the knockout stages at Argentina’s expense.

Doubtless Pochettino will be accused in some quarters of giving divers a free pass. Yet equally, he deserves a good deal of credit for trying to convey a nuanced, intelligent sentiment in a language that is not his first. He agreed that Alli’s dive merited a booking, although he denied that Alli was beginning to develop a bad reputation amongst referees. But it was the froth and furore that followed which he found most baffling.

“Look, it was a yellow card,” he said. “It happens. The referee was right. During different games, a lot of situations like this happen. The problem now is that we are so sensitive about the situation, and then we are so focused on Dele Alli. It’s too much sometimes. There is such a focus on this type of situation. I think it’s a minimal issue.

“Look, there are a lot of positives from Dele. Of course, he's not perfect. Nobody is perfect. Of course, he is a clever boy. He is a little bit nasty. The problem is that, more than this type of situation, I am worried we are going to change the game that we know.”

Mauricio Pochettino has stressed that commentators shouldn't be overly fixated on Dele Alli's diving antics (Getty)
Whereupon the discussion abruptly opened out into broader themes: into the media, into English exceptionalism, into the very essence of the game. “Football is a creative sport,” he said, “in which you need the talent that grows in a very intelligent person, a very smart brain. And now we are so focused on minimal details. I am worried that in a few years, we are pushing the sport we love now - a passionate sport that people love to watch around the world - into a very rigid structure. With VAR, with focusing too much on small actions like this.

“Football is about trying to trick your opponent - yes or no? Tactics – what does ‘tactic’ mean? When you do tactics, it is to try to trick the opponent. You play on the right, but you finish on the left. Twenty years ago, thirty years ago, we all congratulated a player when he tricks the referee like this. That is the football that I was in love with when I was a child. Yes, in Argentina, but in England too. You believe that in England you were honest and always perfect?”

Finally, Pochettino argued that referees should simply be allowed to officiate and make errors unmolested by instant judgement and granular video analysis. “I am worried that maybe we are going to kill the game,” he said. “We love this game. Referees are humans too, and sometimes they are right, sometimes they are not right. In 10 months, over the whole season, sometimes it is against you, sometimes it is for you. For me, I like this type of football.

“My worry is this: of course if you dive, and the referee saw you, you are punished. And he deserves it. But don’t go more crazy.”

After a turbulent few days, Alli will probably be grateful for a night away from the spotlight, as he is set to be rested for Tottenham’s FA Cup fourth-round replay against Newport County at Wembley on Wednesday night. Pochettino said he would make several changes, with crunch games against Arsenal and Juventus coming up in the next week. Toby Alderweireld and Danny Rose could both return from injury, while Harry Winks, Fernando Llorente, Juan Foyth and Serge Aurier are all in contention for a start.

Naturally, Tottenham will remain heavy favourites against their League Two opposition, who will be bringing almost 8,000 fans to Wembley from South Wales. With Newport receiving 45 per cent of gate receipts, plus television revenue, this season’s cup run could end up earning the club around £700,000 - a third of their annual budget.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-newport-fa-cup-mauricio-pochettino-dele-alli-diving-killing-the-game-a8197946.html

Again, shameless. :lol: And this is what we'll have to put up on Saturday, 'trying to trick the opponent'. :rolleyes:

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully we win with a few dodgy decisions and dives, I’d like to see how he feels then.

[HCZ]

You don't know that Aurier will even definitely play...but that is why I suggested El neny and Wilshere should be drilled on covering full backs (not to say I expect it to happen).

RE: Kolasanic.......There are two things at hand. One is whether he has convinced me enough to reasonably imagine him being the long term left back.

....the other is whether he has convinced me enough of whether he should start this particular game. He may yet convince me of the former but as of yet he has convinced me of neither.

It's a risky strategy with Mhikitarayan but I prefer to throw caution to wind as I don't think we are going to cautiously tip tap our way into the top 4 from the position we find ourselves in now.

Wenger won't play him there in that system anyway, as well you know.

If Pochetinno is smart he will start Aurier

Plus in fairness if we are having this lineup debate over what Wenger will or won’t do it’s totally redundant anyway. Xhaka and Ramsey will play in midfield.....that’s almost guaranteed

[Cripps]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/tottenham-newport-fa-cup-mauricio-pochettino-dele-alli-diving-killing-the-game-a8197946.html

Again, shameless. :lol: And this is what we'll have to put up on Saturday, 'trying to trick the opponent'. :rolleyes:

Imagine Wenger said that:lol:

He'd be in jail for murder along with Pires for his murder at Pompey:lol:

[HCZ]

There is definitely a cultural difference in how diving is seen

The British mentality is that it’s just cheating pure and simple and a game isn’t worth playing unless you play by the rules

Different cultures believe that it’s devious and clever

There is a very good book on the subject of football and cultural views - Those Feet by David Winner

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If Pochetinno is smart he will start Aurier

Plus in fairness if we are having this lineup debate over what Wenger will or won’t do it’s totally redundant anyway. Xhaka and Ramsey will play in midfield.....that’s almost guaranteed

We don't know what he will do but I think he may be cautious if Aurier has been out a while. Pochetinno is a good manager but he regularly plays Son and Dier over others and those two are normally sneered at on here......so if he favours another over Aurier it won't be a surprise.

You're right though, he will most likely play Xhaka and Ramsey but I was musing more on what I'd like to happen.

Lacazette will probably sit out again.

[HCZ]

We don't know what he will do but I think he may be cautious if Aurier has been out a while. Pochetinno is a good manager but he regularly plays Son and Dier over others and those two are normally sneered at on here......so if he favours another over Aurier it won't be a surprise.

You're right though, he will most likely play Xhaka and Ramsey but I was musing more on what I'd like to happen.

Lacazette will probably sit out again.

What id like to happen is to have Iwobi, Monreal, Xhaka and Ramsey removed from the XI

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Monreal is our most consistent performer, I don't get the eagerness to want to remove him.

[GP]

Monreal is our most consistent performer, I don't get the eagerness to want to remove him.

Monreal is consistently good. One of our better players this season.

[HCZ]

Monreal is our most consistent performer, I don't get the eagerness to want to remove him.

Because he’s average and slow. Spurs have a lot of pace in their side, if we are holding onto a lead and Spurs are leggy by all means bring him on to hold onto what we have.

[Marc Overmars]

There is definitely a cultural difference in how diving is seen

The British mentality is that it’s just cheating pure and simple and a game isn’t worth playing unless you play by the rules

Different cultures believe that it’s devious and clever

There is a very good book on the subject of football and cultural views - Those Feet by David Winner

In no other sport is deceiving the officials seen like this.

It's pathetic but it seems like it's part of the fabric of the game.

[HCZ]

Not outright deception but players in other sports do act deviously and use mind games

Nadal and injury time outs spring to mind

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Because he’s average and slow. Spurs have a lot of pace in their side, if we are holding onto a lead and Spurs are leggy by all means bring him on to hold onto what we have.

Why don't you value brains, or knowing where to stand, how to track your man, or how to defend, or how to cross a ball, or how to be an actual goal threat.....because those are all things he displays more consistently than any other individual in our back line.

I'd say those are staple qualities necessary in any game.

[Niall_Quinn]

There is definitely a cultural difference in how diving is seen

The British mentality is that it’s just cheating pure and simple and a game isn’t worth playing unless you play by the rules

Different cultures believe that it’s devious and clever

There is a very good book on the subject of football and cultural views - Those Feet by David Winner

Trevor Francis, Gary Lineker, Chris Waddle, Steve McManaman Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, Youngie, Wayne Rooney, Harry Kane, Deli Alli and Wayne Rooney. A diver for every era and the British mentality was suspended to ignore or forgive most of them.

[Niall_Quinn]

Because he’s average and slow. Spurs have a lot of pace in their side, if we are holding onto a lead and Spurs are leggy by all means bring him on to hold onto what we have.

Wengerbot will stick with the same team that beat Everton and he'll approach the game in exactly the same way and make no allowances for the spuds whatsoever.

Unless he's going to change everything about himself as a football manager by the weekend.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

What was Your team NQ...humour me?

[Niall_Quinn]

Cech (now Butterball because of injury to Cech)

Bellend - Kos - Monreal - Kolabottle

Mkhitnazi - Rambo - Wheelchair - Sicknote

Lucazade - Aubergine

[Niall_Quinn]

4-4-2 all the way with Rambo and Jack under strict instructions not to be dickheads and with Miki and Ozil reminded they need to help out a bit with some of the crappy stuff.

Laca would be a great link man for Auba I think. The former is technical and good in compressed spaces, although Wenger might have totally killed his confidence by now I suppose. But nothing like a good performance and a win against the spuds to get it back.

[HCZ]

Cech (now Butterball because of injury to Cech)

Bellend - Kos - Monreal - Kolabottle

Mkhitnazi - Rambo - Wheelchair - Sicknote

Lucazade - Aubergine

Swap Ramsey and Monreal for Elneny and Mustafi and that would be my team

[HCZ]

Trevor Francis, Gary Lineker, Chris Waddle, Steve McManaman Michael Owen, Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, Youngie, Wayne Rooney, Harry Kane, Deli Alli and Wayne Rooney. A diver for every era and the British mentality was suspended to ignore or forgive most of them.

That’s hypocrisy rather than cultural, we abhor Diving apart from when we think it benefits us.

If Aubemeyang dives to get a penalty to win the game at Spurs on Saturday in injury time I’m not going to lie and pretend I give a shit. If Delle Ali or Harry Kane pull that shit I will be livid.

South Americans generally don’t have a problem with it full stop.

[Niall_Quinn]

Swap Ramsey and Monreal for Elneny and Mustafi and that would be my team

Mustafi must be kept a thousand miles away from the pitch. He'll be easy pickings for Alli and Kane, with all his diving in and last ditch stuff. They'll take maximum advantage.

And Elneny is slow, shit, fat and gay - really gone off him and would prefer we get rid. Ramsey is coming off the back of a hat-trick. Plus he's got more experience dealing with spuds.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

4-4-2 all the way with Rambo and Jack under strict instructions not to be dickheads and with Miki and Ozil reminded they need to help out a bit with some of the crappy stuff.

Laca would be a great link man for Auba I think. The former is technical and good in compressed spaces, although Wenger might have totally killed his confidence by now I suppose. But nothing like a good performance and a win against the spuds to get it back.

I think you would need to tie a piece of rope between the pair of them given Ramsey's instincts and the fact he's suddenly high on goals again with the latest hat trick........and even then Ramsey would drag Wilshere out of position and expose them both.

My worry is that if you play a 2 man midfield against Spurs' 3 with Dembele in there, then they will simply boss the game in midfield like they did for spells against Man United.

If they boss the game in midfield then they will continually supply Kane.....and to my mind even better than his actual finishing, Kane's greatest attribute is the frequency of opportunities he gets for himself, a little like Andy Cole at United used to.

I can't remember which podcast I heard it on....but they were suggesting that the latest stats show it is frequency of chances a team should focus on rather than the actual quality of them. Oh it was the Arsenal vision podcast and unsurprisingly they were talking about Cavani, who is an interesting subject matter regarding quality of finishing and frequency of chances.

[Marc Overmars]

I think the frequency of chances point is why I’ve been disappointed with Lacazette. He’s been a peripheral figure here, never seems to be in the right place at the right time.

[HCZ]

Mustafi must be kept a thousand miles away from the pitch. He'll be easy pickings for Alli and Kane, with all his diving in and last ditch stuff. They'll take maximum advantage.

And Elneny is slow, shit, fat and gay - really gone off him and would prefer we get rid. Ramsey is coming off the back of a hat-trick. Plus he's got more experience dealing with spuds.

I’m more of the school of playing better players. Mustafi is a good defender and absolutely nullified Kane and Ali at the Emirates.

You can’t legislate for a player that is slow and can be turned too easily, exposing Monreal to a pacey attack when you have only Ospina in goal is suicide.

I don’t rate Elneny not one bit, but Ramsey?. Spurs’ game is built on pressing players on the ball, what’s the one thing Ramsey gets exposed for the absolute joke of a footballer he is....being pressed on the ball.

[Cripps]

A few big hitters in the spurs team tonight. Great :good:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Are you still certain Aurier will play sherbert?

[Niall_Quinn]

I’m more of the school of playing better players. Mustafi is a good defender and absolutely nullified Kane and Ali at the Emirates.

You can’t legislate for a player that is slow and can be turned too easily, exposing Monreal to a pacey attack when you have only Ospina in goal is suicide.

I don’t rate Elneny not one bit, but Ramsey?. Spurs’ game is built on pressing players on the ball, what’s the one thing Ramsey gets exposed for the absolute joke of a footballer he is....being pressed on the ball.

Ramsey will fight, at least. Elneny will just look to play it backwards at the first sign of pressure. Wenger has destroyed him. He looked promising enough when he arrived but he's taken up Wenger's bullshit system far to eagerly and become a non-entity as a result. Ramsey can run for the 90 minutes too, and we'll need that.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I think Elneny's game was always quite cautious tbf.

He is also less likely to give the ball away than any other midfielder we probably have.

[HCZ]

Are you still certain Aurier will play sherbert?

Wanyama and Alderweireld are playing tonight, are you stating neither will play Saturday?

[HCZ]

Ramsey will fight, at least. Elneny will just look to play it backwards at the first sign of pressure. Wenger has destroyed him. He looked promising enough when he arrived but he's taken up Wenger's bullshit system far to eagerly and become a non-entity as a result. Ramsey can run for the 90 minutes too, and we'll need that.

Fight? No he will mess himself or give away posesssion sloppily in a stupid position as soon as any pressure is applied. We don’t need him running, it doesn’t contribute to anything it’s just the movements of a headless chicken.

I understand your criticism of Elneny, but if he does as he’s told just breaks up play and protects the defence that’s all we need from him. That is too much to ask of Ramsey.

[Cripps]

Are you still certain Aurier will play sherbert?

Sherbert :haha:

[Xhaka Can’t]

My team that I suggested the other day is the correct one. So I'm not sure why people are debating this.

On behalf of everybody-sorry

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Wanyama and Alderweireld are playing tonight, are you stating neither will play Saturday?

I don't care frankly. I'm asking you about 1 player In particular.

[Cripps]

The Mirror say Petr Cech is optimistic that he will win his race to be fit for the North London derby. #Arsenal https://t.co/sTn4EcdsEz

FFS

[HCZ]

I don't care frankly. I'm asking you about 1 player In particular.

Well your premise is based on if Aurier plays today he won’t play at the weekend

Wanyama and Alderweireld played tonight and I’m fairly sure they will be in the starting XI Saturday lunchtime

But as I say Monreal is slow and immobile, so whether Aurier plays or not he’s a weak link who will get exposed for pace.

[HCZ]

Anthony Taylor the referee

Fuck it all

[HCZ]

Why don't you value brains, or knowing where to stand, how to track your man, or how to defend, or how to cross a ball, or how to be an actual goal threat.....because those are all things he displays more consistently than any other individual in our back line.

I'd say those are staple qualities necessary in any game.

His positioning goes out the window when playing anyone with pace, if your plan is to play Mhkytarian as a wing back that leaves Monreal responsible for stopping a cross from the right coming into the box, again not a strong suit of his.

[Cripps]

Wenger on Poch's comments about tricking the opponent, says it used to be foreign players who were known for diving, "but I must say the English players learn very quickly and they may be the masters now."

Wenger :bow:

[Penguin]

His positioning goes out the window when playing anyone with pace, if your plan is to play Mhkytarian as a wing back that leaves Monreal responsible for stopping a cross from the right coming into the box, again not a strong suit of his.

Monreal does get caught out sometimes but you could same the same for any of our centre halves.

Who are the alternatives - Holding? Chambers? Elneny?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Well your premise is based on if Aurier plays today he won’t play at the weekend

Wanyama and Alderweireld played tonight and I’m fairly sure they will be in the starting XI Saturday lunchtime

But as I say Monreal is slow and immobile, so whether Aurier plays or not he’s a weak link who will get exposed for pace.

I don't think Wanyama will play Saturday but Alderweireld has a 50/50 chance (Pochettino will be keen as he is their best defender arguably) as does Aurier in my personal view.

What you think you are omitting in deficiencies of Monreal you are simply replacing with the plethora of deficiencies in our other defenders.

Being exposed for pace in itself is often a consequence of poor positioning and positioning is something Monreal does better than anyone else in our backline .

[HCZ]

I don't think Wanyama will play Saturday but Alderweireld has a 50/50 chance (Pochettino will be keen as he is their best defender arguably) as does Aurier in my personal view.

What you think you are omitting in deficiencies of Monreal you are simply replacing with the plethora of deficiencies in our other defenders.

Being exposed for pace in itself is often a consequence of poor positioning and positioning is something Monreal does better than anyone else in our backline .


I disagree. I think Monreal got torn to shreds by Man City in November and he will be under all kinds of pressure again by the spurs attack, when we were pressed on the ball even by Swansea our casual midfield didn’t help our defence at all and once again Monreal was all over the shop.


Again we are discussing not just preferable team but preferable formation I think we should play four at the back so playing two centre backs in the traditional position makes sense and playing something both stronger and quicker than Monreal at full back (Kolasinac)

So my team would be

Cech (if fit)
Bellerin
Mustafi
Koscielny
Kolasinac
Elneny
Wilshere
Ozil
Mhkytarian
Aubemeyang
Lacazette

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Pochettino won't have missed the fact we've signed an Olympic athlete and with his rep for attention to detail he will know the more they push forward the more exposed they will be at the back and that might even play into our hands.

I can't even remember what Monreal was like against City....but that is 1 game against possibly the best side the prem has seen a few months ago. Anybody else you've named in your back 4 is just as likely and in most cases more likely to cost us the game with a mistake than Monreal.

We've given up more goals through errant passes, poor positioning, awareness and sheer lethargy than lack of pace from any individual so I think you are placing too much consideration on that anyway.

I also think with that team and formation we are going to get outnumbered in midfield and allow Spurs to control the game. If they control the game they will feed Kane multiple times. If they feed Kane through multiple times he will definitely score. If we were a highly disciplined, drilled counter attacking team like Leicester were when they won the title I'd name a very similar team and formation to the one you have but not in our actual circumstances now.

[AFC Leveller]

my midfielder Vs your midfielder

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27657897_2065118850392110_3274061980846913527_n.jp g?oh=ebcc68de6d8c089d85e0a34053708315&oe=5B240E66

[HCZ]

Pochettino won't have missed the fact we've signed an Olympic athlete and with his rep for attention to detail he will know the more they push forward the more exposed they will be at the back and that might even play into our hands.

I can't even remember what Monreal was like against City....but that is 1 game against possibly the best side the prem has seen a few months ago. Anybody else you've named in your back 4 is just as likely and in most cases more likely to cost us the game with a mistake than Monreal.

We've given up more goals through errant passes, poor positioning, awareness and sheer lethargy than lack of pace from any individual so I think you are placing too much consideration on that anyway.

I also think with that team and formation we are going to get outnumbered in midfield and allow Spurs to control the game. If they control the game they will feed Kane multiple times. If they feed Kane through multiple times he will definitely score. If we were a highly disciplined, drilled counter attacking team like Leicester were when they won the title I'd name a very similar team and formation to the one you have but not in our actual circumstances now.

:haha:

The team you’d pick is even less defensively disciplined than mine

Putting Mkytarian at wing back....he’s a purely creative player. He won’t want to track back

Plus why should I trust your judgement on defensive positioning when you can’t remember a game from three months ago. Sterling is no more technically accomplished than anyone in the Spurs lineup and Monreal had a nightmare against him, whether we think Sterling dived for the penalty or not (I think Monreal was clumsy and played into Sterling’s hands to go over easy) he was given a torrid time.

The counter attack won’t work against Spurs. Because we have no one who can hold the ball up. So we have to do what we did at the Emirates and press them on the ball but that requires speed and agility in defensive areas to mop up if we lose possession in the first place

[Master Splinter]

We really need Wilshere in midfield to ease the pressure and bypass their press. Otherwise, it will be a case of waves of attacks, with many of them coming because Xhaka/Ramsey/Ozil keep giving the ball away.

It feels like WUMger has just reverted to his laptop's preferred midfield though and Wilshere will be on the bench until Ramsey is out again or Xhaka gets himself suspended with a two-footer.

It would be good to see Lacazette and Aubameyang together, but Xhaka-Wilshere sitting deep, with Ozil-Ramsey-Mkhitaryan in front of them isn't too bad as long as Ramsey makes his usual runs and Mkhitaryan can get forward enough to support the striker too.

[Cripps]

I have no idea what either blink or sherbert are arguing as I haven't read one word of their debate but with sherbert's track record I agree with what blink's saying.

Also

Arsene Wenger casually firing shots at English players... �� https://t.co/evlcA9TWV3

:haha: that smile at the end :haha:

[HCZ]

I have no idea what either blink or sherbert are arguing as I haven't read one word of their debate but with sherbert's track record I agree with what blink's saying.

Also

Arsene Wenger casually firing shots at English players... �� https://t.co/evlcA9TWV3

:haha: that smile at the end :haha:

Also you can’t read and when you write anything it’s being typed out for you by your mum like that 13 year old autistic child in “the reason I jump”

[Cripps]

Thanks for proving my point :haha:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

:haha:

The team you’d pick is even less defensively disciplined than mine

Putting Mkytarian at wing back....he’s a purely creative player. He won’t want to track back

Plus why should I trust your judgement on defensive positioning when you can’t remember a game from three months ago. Sterling is no more technically accomplished than anyone in the Spurs lineup and Monreal had a nightmare against him, whether we think Sterling dived for the penalty or not (I think Monreal was clumsy and played into Sterling’s hands to go over easy) he was given a torrid time.

The counter attack won’t work against Spurs. Because we have no one who can hold the ball up. So we have to do what we did at the Emirates and press them on the ball but that requires speed and agility in defensive areas to mop up if we lose possession in the first place

You don't have to trust my judgement.....I don't work for the club and you aren't Arsene Wenger. It's just my view. You expect me to remember the errors of a player in a game months ago (through the prism of your own interpretation of events)?.... the fact you're going that far back to highlight your point when we have been consistently inconsistent along with the fact you're desperate not to play the most consistent player this season should raise eyebrows about your judgement on the defence, not mine.

Bellerin has also given away a silly pen as well as others this season.....they practically take it in turns so I don't even want to get started on individual errors. Excuse me if I don't want our most consistent player out of the side for it. He's been far more to do with what has been good than bad.....I wonder if you watch games at all if you can't see that.

[HCZ]

Man City was the last top six side we played away from home in the league, like spurs they like to press you on the ball and then come at you with pace.

Now Monreal might well have been our most consistent performer against the average wank that makes up most of the premier league, but when he’s been exposed for his lack of pace by strong attacking teams again and again and again in the five years he’s been here. I don’t really understand what it takes for someone to think, maybe we don’t want slow and immobile there for such games.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aurier is a liability, hope he plays.

[HCZ]

Aurier is just one example, and I use him because of how he tore Monreal to shreds when we played PSG

It was embarrassing to watch

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What happened against Tottenham at the Emirates?

[HCZ]

When we are playing at home we have more chance to dictate the pace of the game

[McNamara That Ghost...]

For a side like Tottenham aren't the opportunities to attack with pace (which I don't think they have anywhere near to the level of last season incidentally) going to be more fruitful away?

On the line-up of who played midweek and whether that means they play on Saturday, It's a difficult one because they do have Juventus away on Tuesday.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Man City was the last top six side we played away from home in the league, like spurs they like to press you on the ball and then come at you with pace.

Now Monreal might well have been our most consistent performer against the average wank that makes up most of the premier league, but when he’s been exposed for his lack of pace by strong attacking teams again and again and again in the five years he’s been here. I don’t really understand what it takes for someone to think, maybe we don’t want slow and immobile there for such games.

Ignoring the fact that the average wank, is everything outside of 5 teams in the top 6 (making up most of the bleeding games) maybe the solution is to bring the consistency and compentency of those around him so he doesn't get exposed....

Or maybe we should bin Holding, Chambers for their lack of pace....perhaps Kos too as his waning ankles won't make him any quicker.

[HCZ]

Ignoring the fact that the average wank, is everything outside of 5 teams in the top 6 (making up most of the bleeding games) maybe the solution is to bring the consistency and compentency of those around him so he doesn't get exposed....

Or maybe we should bin Holding, Chambers for their lack of pace....perhaps Kos too as his waning ankles won't make him any quicker.

Maybe the solution is not to play a guy who is average at best

I don’t know where chambers or holding come into this. I think Chambers is not especially good and Holding is slow (but not suggesting playing either). I’ve laid out in black and white what I think the back four should be who plays in front of it etc.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Average at best is a daft assessment but each to their own officer Sherbert.

[Niall_Quinn]

When we are playing at home we have more chance to dictate the pace of the game

I don't get the home/ away thing. Teams that do well at home and get fucked when away have a weak, girly mentality as far as I'm concerned. If it was me, I'd be more up for it on enemy territory than at home. Still a football pitch, still a ball, still a set of goals. Only real difference I can see, provided our darling professionals can at least tune out the hostile crowd (a bare minimum requisite at this level surely), is the ref who can be a homer. But apart from that, what's the difference. Or what's the difference that could be excused in relation to a professional sportsman?

[Marc Overmars]

Monreal is one of the first names on the team sheet.

[HCZ]

I don't get the home/ away thing. Teams that do well at home and get fucked when away have a weak, girly mentality as far as I'm concerned. If it was me, I'd be more up for it on enemy territory than at home. Still a football pitch, still a ball, still a set of goals. Only real difference I can see, provided our darling professionals can at least tune out the hostile crowd (a bare minimum requisite at this level surely), is the ref who can be a homer. But apart from that, what's the difference. Or what's the difference that could be excused in relation to a professional sportsman?

And yet despite that almost every season teams whether they finish top or bottom of the table have a better home record than away record.

[HCZ]

Monreal is one of the first names on the team sheet.

And that’s probably the biggest inditement of this team you could possibly have

It’s clear to me people going on about how good he is have very short memories

[Marc Overmars]

He’s not without his flaws but I don’t believe he’s in grave danger of being roasted by Spurs. He’ll be fine. It’s the midfield that will likely lose us the game if they’re not at it.

[HCZ]

He’s not without his flaws but I don’t believe he’s in grave danger of being roasted by Spurs. He’ll be fine. It’s the midfield that will likely lose us the game if they’re not at it.

If we play Xhaka and Ramsey then I’d agree

[Globalgunner]

If we play Xhaka and Ramsey then I’d agree

Get ready to agree. No way Wenger benches either of those numpties

[HCZ]

Stat time

This is Wengers 52nd North London Derby in all competitions

Of the previous 51 he has won 23 drawn 20 and lost 8


9 of those wins came at The Emirates (7 in the league, 1 in the fa cup, 1 in the league cup)

7 of those wins came at Highbury (all in the league)

6 of those wins came at White Hart Lane (4 in the league, 2 in the league cup)

1 win came at Old Trafford in the Fa cup semi final of 2001

We’ve scored 94 goals in those 51 games to Spurs’ 64 goals

Of the 21 league games we’ve played under Wenger away at Spurs we’ve scored 31 goals - 13 in the first half, 18 in the second half


Addendum
Last three times we’ve played Spurs at Wembley were twice in 1991 and once in 1993 - a loss, a draw and a win

[Gooner23]

Get ready to agree. No way Wenger benches either of those numpties

For me Elneny and Jack are the best midfield partnership we have currently.

But agree Wenger will stick with Xhaka because he's too stubborn to admit he paid 35 million for a dud, and Ramsey is his golden boy.

[Power n Glory]

For me Elneny and Jack are the best midfield partnership we have currently.

But agree Wenger will stick with Xhaka because he's too stubborn to admit he paid 35 million for a dud, and Ramsey is his golden boy.

Money can't be the reason why he won't bench Xhaka, can it? Wenger is so odd. He has no problem benching Lacazette and already has his replacement at playing ahead of him. Laca was our record signing not so long ago! I can't work out what is going on with Xhaka and how he keeps getting games.

[HCZ]

Money can't be the reason why he won't bench Xhaka, can it? Wenger is so odd. He has no problem benching Lacazette and already has his replacement at playing ahead of him. Laca was our record signing not so long ago! I can't work out what is going on with Xhaka and how he keeps getting games.

It’s either stubbornness (not so much related to money but I’ll prove you all wrong mentality) or he’s seeing something that the rest of us don’t.

[Marc Overmars]

I can imagine Xhaka in training looks like Xabi Alonso. Being able to ping the ball from all distances under no pressure.

Begin to press him though and he’ll fold completely, I don’t know how Wenker can trust him so much.

[Cripps]

:popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVq7Q1lX0AADwib.jpg

[Cripps]

Wilshere, Xhaka and Elneny :popcorn:

Change of formation then?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jenas, Keown and Rio in the studio for BT.

[HCZ]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVq7Q1lX0AADwib.jpg

Xhaka and Elneny???? Christ


Although I think playing Wilshere further forward might work

[Cripps]

Packing the midfield, the key battle ground.

Wenger :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds: Lloris, Trippier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Davies, Dier, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane.

Aurier not playing, I for one am shocked.

[HCZ]

Wilshere, Xhaka and Elneny :popcorn:

Change of formation then?

Probably not

4-2-1-2-1 id imagine

Wilshere playing where Ozil plays and Ozil playing wide

[Cripps]

Sanchez had a stinker against Liverpool, although he has been good all season. Put pressure on him from the off :popcorn:

[Niall_Quinn]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVq7Q1lX0AADwib.jpg

You HAVE to be kidding me :doh:

JHFC - Xhaka and Elneny :haha:

Is that graphic from a spoof site? Ha ha, very funny. Got me.

[Cripps]

Probably not

4-2-1-2-1 id imagine

Wilshere playing where Ozil plays and Ozil playing wide

Not a fan of Ozil out wide.

[HCZ]

Spuds: Lloris, Trippier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Davies, Dier, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane.

Aurier not playing, I for one am shocked.

Just as well considering Monreal is playing left back

[HCZ]

Not a fan of Ozil out wide.

No me neither. But then again we don’t actually have many wide options

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Keown talks some utter bollocks.

[Niall_Quinn]

Spuds: Lloris, Trippier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Davies, Dier, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane.

Aurier not playing, I for one am shocked.

So no bans for Kane and Alli then?

I'm not shocked at all.

The cheats ride again with their cheat loving manager at the dive controls.

[Cripps]

No me neither. But then again we don’t actually have many wide options

Kola, Iwobi, Welbeck. Do you bother reading?

[HCZ]

Kola, Iwobi, Welbeck. Do you bother reading?

Ones a wing back and the other two are terrible

[Niall_Quinn]

Xhaka and Elneny???? Christ


Although I think playing Wilshere further forward might work

Wenger's the worst coward in football. His cowardice has ruined Lacazette. It will destroy Aubameyang. And his pansy arse, cowering, simpering, please don't hurt my babies bullshit will turn the game into an utter shitfest.

I HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE the cunt.

[Cripps]

Ones a wing back and the other two are terrible

The point you made was that we don't have many wide options.

A wide wing back would be a better option than Ozil on the wing. In fact, ideal in a game where you need defensive cover.

The other 2 operate on the wings too.

I proved you wrong again.

I win.

[HCZ]

Well he’s still under the illusion that Xhaka is in anyway a defensive midfielder

We don’t have those, arguably even Elneny isn’t really just not technically good enough to do anything else

[Cripps]

Wenger's the worst coward in football. His cowardice has ruined Lacazette. It will destroy Aubameyang. And his pansy arse, cowering, simpering, please don't hurt my babies bullshit will turn the game into an utter shitfest.

I HATE, HATE, HATE, HATE the cunt.

:lol: angry morning NQ :bow:

[hobson's choice]

Poch doing us a favor again by leaving Rose and Aurier on the bench. Same with Wanyama

[HCZ]

The point you made was that we don't have many wide options.

A wide wing back would be a better option than Ozil on the wing. In fact, ideal in a game where you need defensive cover.

The other 2 operate on the wings too.

I proved you wrong again.

I win.

You’ve obviously had too much sugar for breakfast

Like I say Iwobi and Welbeck are options in the same sense one option for lunch other than going out or eating in is jamming a knife into your stomach so you won’t be bothered by feeling hungry.

And if you don’t understand the difference between playing wide in attack and a wingback apart from being amused by your hyperactive sugar rush, there’s no point in continuing this.

[Cripps]

The annual power shift question :lol:

Deffo think Spurs are the biggest team in north London with their 'put pressure on' trophy :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Our CM options are not very good so whatever combo you throw together it won’t look strong.

Hope Mkhi and Auba are up for it.

[Cripps]

You’ve obviously had too much sugar for breakfast

Like I say Iwobi and Welbeck are options in the same sense one option for lunch other than going out or eating in is jamming a knife into your stomach so you won’t be bothered by feeling hungry.

And if you don’t understand the difference between playing wide in attack and a wingback apart from being amused by your hyperactive sugar rush, there’s no point in continuing this.

No, you were wrong.

So I had you for breakfast. Again.

[HCZ]

On the plus side at least there’s no Ramsey

[HCZ]

Oh wait he’s only missing as he’s injured :haha:

Well fair play to him at least he’s a team player, got himself injured because he realises he’s too shit to play in this game

[Cripps]

I love the way Jake Humphrey is the only one that presses Wenger hard and puts him on the spot.

[Cripps]

New dawn :lol:

Wenger has brainwashed the fans again :lol:

Keown's completely infatuated with him :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

:lol: angry morning NQ :bow:

Chilled and relaxed, loving the Olympics NQ :bow:

I am very composed when it comes to hating Wenger. It's a clinical, calm, measured and growing hatred.

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh wait he’s only missing as he’s injured :haha:

Well fair play to him at least he’s a team player, got himself injured because he realises he’s too shit to play in this game

Glorious chance for Wenger to reach down, check his bollocks are there and play both Lacazette and Aubameyang.

I know what this cunt is going to do. Same as he did with Alexis. Pile all his incompetence on Aubameyang and leave it up to the poor sod to drag that anchor while rescuing our arses from every fire the stupid goat sets.

[Niall_Quinn]

And, btw, I thought we had no money! Isn't that what the cunts are claiming? We can't compete with the big boys because we have no fucking cash?

But we can afford to have a 50 mill striker on the bench?

Explain, Wenger! Either we are fucking rolling in it and can afford 50 mill benchies and you're a lying cunt. Or, you're the most incompetent fuck in football.

Which is it?

Both?

[Niall_Quinn]

How is the spud 60,001 capacity stadium coming along? Is it done yet?

Impressive facts about the stadium.

It is 1 metre taller than the Emirates.
It has 1 more car parking space than the Emirates.
It has 1 more toilet than the Emirates.
The shadow it casts is 1 foot longer than the Emirates.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Spuds: Lloris, Trippier, Sanchez, Vertonghen, Davies, Dier, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane.

Aurier not playing, I for one am shocked.
:lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

So what was the Aurier thing all about? I noticed it was a GW trending topic (which means it had more than 1 post).

What does it matter if he's playing or not?

Who is he anyway?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Arsenal. :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

3 points a MUST.

Let's get ready to rumble!

It's Showtime!

And it's LIVE!

Nice to see you, to see you - NICE!

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh.

Fucking adverts :doh:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Let's batter these dipshits.

[HCZ]

So what was the Aurier thing all about? I noticed it was a GW trending topic (which means it had more than 1 post).

What does it matter if he's playing or not?

Who is he anyway?

Guy who absolutely rinsed Monreal when we played PSG in Paris just under 18 months ago

[Marc Overmars]

Come on you Gunners!

[Niall_Quinn]

Come on Auba. 3 dives, 3 pens and a hattrick please.

Lovely!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We've lasted longer than Man Utd. :haha:

Still 0-0.

[Niall_Quinn]

Guy who absolutely rinsed Monreal when we played PSG in Paris just under 18 months ago

Doubt it.

Nacho is a god!

[AFC Leveller]

3-2 is my prediction

[Globalgunner]

Guy who absolutely rinsed Monreal when we played PSG in Paris just under 18 months ago

I felt for Monreal that day, he was an utter shambles

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well done Auba.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Elneny boots it out of play for some reason. Good corner.

[Niall_Quinn]

Auba's pace is beautiful.

[Niall_Quinn]

Elneny is shit. Absolute shit.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mkhitaryan cuts down Trippier's cross, can't defend though apparently.

[Niall_Quinn]

mikki :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

We should have been in on the counter there. Really poor pass from Ozil

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Send him off!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mustafi knew what he was doing. :unsure:

[AFC Leveller]

Not watching but it sounds like we are camped in our half .

Also Spurs are a dirty side

[Niall_Quinn]

Spuds on some sort of random bobble attack.

[Niall_Quinn]

Jack tries the shot - Elneny blocks it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Very, very obvious weak link. Elneny. Killing us.

[Niall_Quinn]

The Kane troll is upset because his fouling got penalised.

[Marc Overmars]

Auba looked onside there

[Thierrymon]

Dodgy linesmen.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Aubameyang wasn't offside.

Twats.

[Marc Overmars]

Very, very obvious weak link. Elneny. Killing us.

He’s laughably limited.

[Niall_Quinn]

Auba ONSIDE FFS!

FUCKING HELL! WTF????

[Master Splinter]

1-0 to the linesman already.

[Niall_Quinn]

Dodgy linesmen.

First one ever.

[AFC Leveller]

Corrupt officials already making their presence felt.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

How beautiful was that piece of play though. Sign da ting Jack.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dier clears it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Dier :haha:

By name, by nature.

[Globalgunner]

I hate the way we are sometimes camped in our own half with the Spuds CBs 10 ft in our half. I would tell Auba to stay on the halfway line and never come anywhere closer to Cech.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maybe I'm getting hysterical, but it looks like we have Bobby back on the left.

Too much, too soon?

Just reminds me of him a lot.

[AFC Leveller]

Auba is classy yet fucking lightning quick. If he can play to his strengths we can do these cunts.

[Niall_Quinn]

First serious spud dive fails to get a FK.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dier. :haha:

[Goonermerree]

Come on Arsenal. We have to score, I don't trust our defence not to let at least one in.

[Thierrymon]

Harry Kane has a very punchable face.

Auba injured? Please no.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wheelchair airshot.

[Niall_Quinn]

'ector needs to learn how to cross a fucking ball!

[AFC Leveller]

That half turn and pass from Jack was class, he is a joy to watch when on this form and fit.

[Niall_Quinn]

Has anyone spotted Xhaka in this match?

Probably for the best.

[Goonermerree]

Anyone got a good stream? I have an Acestream but Spanish commentary.

[Niall_Quinn]

http://buffstream.com/watch/soccer.php

[KSE Comedy Club]

Why the fuck do we always put every attack out wide!?!

It’s so uneccessary.

[Niall_Quinn]

20 mins gone and the most notable thing is our midfield. We have ONE player there - Jack. Doing it all on his own.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Eriksen. :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

Eriksen. :lol:

It's funny because he's shit.

[Goonermerree]

http://buffstream.com/watch/soccer.php

Thanks

[KSE Comedy Club]

Oh.... Kane’s started the diving already

[Niall_Quinn]

Oh.... Kane’s started the diving already

Tbf he's left it for over 20 mins. Quite a late start for him.

Showing us too much respect?

[HCZ]

Mhkytarian has made some shit passes today

[Master Splinter]

Kane Starfish.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Eriksen tries to loop the header but easy for Cech.

[Niall_Quinn]

Provided Kos keeps battering the cunt like that, I'm happy.

[Niall_Quinn]

Mhkytarian has made some shit passes today

???

His completion rate must be 100% surely?

[Marc Overmars]

Got away with that, Kane should have done better

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Kane. :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

But he's not coming central like he did against Neverton. And Ozil is not really in the game yet.

[Goonermerree]

Kane was off side but not called. Cheating officials

[Niall_Quinn]

KANNNNNNNEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!





Fucks it.

I notice HE wasn't offside btw. How strange.

[Ralpheroo72]

Aubameyang is done

[Niall_Quinn]

Got away with that, Kane should have done better

He's a massive cheating diving cunt, tbf.

[Niall_Quinn]

Showing the Kane replay now.

Totally offside.

But what an incredible miss.

150 mill :haha:

[Thierrymon]

Spurs starting to take control at the moment. Our threat from earlier seems to have eased.

[Goonermerree]

He's a massive cheating diving cunt, tbf.

He was off side

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Dier with another scuffer.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger needs to do something about the midfield NOW. The game is turning. Why can't he see that, given how many substitutions he's made?

[Niall_Quinn]

Nacho is great, Elneny is a total disaster zone. What a coward of a player. Nacho came and took his header for him there.

[Goonermerree]

Wenger needs to do something about the midfield NOW. The game is turning. Why can't he see that, given how many substitutions he's made?

How would you change it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Alli :haha:

OMG!

150mill :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

How would you change it.

Elneny off, of course.

Lacazette on. Mikki going more central.

[Niall_Quinn]

And Xhaka has done fuck all. Give him the Elneny role.

[Marc Overmars]

Mkhi :doh:

Put that across goal ffs

[Niall_Quinn]

Hector fucks us up with his crossing - every time.

[Niall_Quinn]

What's so difficult about putting a bit of loft on the ball to miss the first defender? As a professional footballer?

[HCZ]

Elneny off, of course.

Lacazette on. Mikki going more central.

Why? Elneny has actually been doing what we almost never do in midfield and that’s protecting the back four

[Thierrymon]

Mikki been learning to cross from Bellerin.

[Maestro]

And Xhaka has done fuck all. Give him the Elneny role.

Don’t know who’s shittier between the two tbh

[Niall_Quinn]

Mikki been learning to cross from Bellerin.

He's had a whole week under Wenger.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our passing is starting to go.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Eriksen whacks it out of play.

This has been a real pub game, which is just the way we need it these days.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why? Elneny has actually been doing what we almost never do in midfield and that’s protecting the back four

No he hasn't. He's been drifting out of that role and fucking things up further up the field. While Xhaka just stands around.

[Globalgunner]

Cheating Spuds asking ref for a card against Mustafi. How English of them

[Niall_Quinn]

Those filthy spud pigs are trying to get Mustafi booked.

[Niall_Quinn]

Auba the defender :bow:

[Niall_Quinn]

Wasn't that a backpass?

[AFC Leveller]

Bellerin is shit. How many times has he ruined a good attack.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bellerin goes for it, over it goes.

[Niall_Quinn]

Look at Elneny now - he plays the ball and then dashes out of position and ahead of the play. WHY?

[Niall_Quinn]

Bellerin is shit. How many times has he ruined a good attack.

Let's just say - he's consistent.

[Goonermerree]

Wasn't that a backpass?
I yelled the same thing

[Niall_Quinn]

Horrendous foul by Dembele. Deliberate. Why no card?

[Marc Overmars]

Final ball lacking

Otherwise defensively good

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-0 HT.

No added time. :haha:

[Cripps]

How boring was that?

[Cripps]

Ozil been crap on the wing

HCZ :haha:

[hobson's choice]

Can someone please tell Cech to kick the ball to the players in red.

Awful going forward no cohesion. Drop one of Elneny or Xhaka and bring in Iwobi

[Niall_Quinn]

Jesus - Elneny heads it straight back into the danger zone. My god - he's shit! Out of his league.

HT 0-0

Wenger obviously has zero clue how to integrate Aubameyang. Fast, direct striker? What a waste of time with the old goat.

Midfield atrocious. Jack started well but eventually got overwhelmed as he's the only one doing anything in there.

Miki started well, but never synched up with Ozil who is missing.

Defence was actually okay. But they still have to face their toughest test - the Kane/ Alli dive assault and the last minute linesman antics.

[Globalgunner]

Can someone please tell Cech to kick the ball to the players in red.

Awful going forward no cohesion. Drop one of Elneny or Xhaka and bring in Iwobi

Why, arent we shit enough.?

[HCZ]

Ninth game in 14 away games where we have been level at the break

Seven of which have been 0-0

[Master Splinter]

Sanchez has been nervy and sliced some clearances. One of the front three should put him under pressure.

[Maestro]

We need Ozil back in the middle. Would bench Xhaka and Elneny and bring on Iwobi or Laca and Ainsley next to Jack.

[Niall_Quinn]

How boring was that?

Not boring at all.

Shit quality, but it's a London derby at Wembley when all is said and done. First time I have felt invested in a game for a while.

[HCZ]

Ozil been crap on the wing

HCZ :haha:

I don’t know why you’re laughing I agreed with you

[HCZ]

Not boring at all.

Shit quality, but it's a London derby at Wembley when all is said and done. First time I have felt invested in a game for a while.

Last ten minutes was pretty dull. Neither side could keep the ball on the ground

[Niall_Quinn]

So Wenger gets paid 10 MILLION FUCKING QUID A YEAR - right?

Stay with me on this...

CHANGE IT YOU CUNT!

DO NOT SEND THE SAME FUCKING SHIT OUT FOR THE SECOND HALF - YOU CUNT!

UNDERSTAND - YOU CUNT?

[Cripps]

We need Ozil back in the middle. Would bench Xhaka and Elneny and bring on Iwobi or Laca and Ainsley next to Jack.

We don't have many wingers though despite having Kola, iwobi and welbeck on the bench

HCZ :haha:

[Niall_Quinn]

We don't have many wingers though despite having Kola, iwobi and welbeck on the bench

HCZ :haha:

Wenger is the biggest coward in football. He came here terrified and he set the team up terrified and he set the tactics terrified. And he'll send out the same terrified team and system for the second half.

Sad to see a grown man whimpering and grovelling like that. Embarrassing.

[Globalgunner]

Wenger is the biggest coward in football. He came here terrified and he set the team up terrified and he set the tactics terrified. And he'll send out the same terrified team and system for the second half.

Sad to see a grown man whimpering and grovelling like that. Embarrassing.

Not losing is nearly the same as winning with Wenger.Just like Mourinho.

Besides we just got 3 points against Everton last week. What more do you want?

[Niall_Quinn]

Brilliant yank ad for cough syrup.

"Buckleys - tastes AWFUL - and it WORKS!"

Genius.