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Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
23-04-2018, 03:37 PM
Yes.

But it's the empty seats, general apathy as well as possibly two seasons out of CL football rather than a few loudmouth morons on AFTV or twitter.

That's the nuanced difference I was hinting. Had the stadium of been full he might not have even cottoned on there was an apathy from his ranch over the pond there.

Globalgunner
23-04-2018, 03:43 PM
Why, Where has he gone?

He withdrew from the board a while back.

Im guessing Big Uncle has told him to stop fraternizing with us degenerates and anti establishment reprobates.

Just a guess. Him being a Copper and all that.

Globalgunner
23-04-2018, 03:47 PM
That's the nuanced difference I was hinting. Had the stadium of been full he might not have even cottoned on there was an apathy from his ranch over the pond there.

TBF to Silent Stan. He did send his son Josh to see what the truth of the matter was and what was ailing the natives. The empty seats defo had an impact. Word got back to him. Even billionaires hate seeing money walk out the door.

selassie
23-04-2018, 03:56 PM
My sympathy for Wenger is wearing pretty thin now. Yeah, I accept he personally feels bad at how he is being forced out. However this happens every day to people who repeatedly fail to achieve their objectives.

Unlike others, Wenger has to deal with this whilst in the public eye. That can’t be good.

However most other people haven’t pocketed tens of millions whilst consistently serving up a deteriorating product.

If I lost my job, and I expect the same is for many others, I wouldn’t expect to draw another years salary and it sure as fuck wouldn’t be £10m either.

I don’t begrudge him his opinion of us and our impact upon him losing his job. Because by staying away we forced the Board to act and gave them the power to do it. But he needs to evaluate better and more objectively what it was that caused us as fans to do this in the first place.

Aye, I agree with this.

I think it's quite telling that Wenger felt the need to poke a thinly veiled dig at the fan base, it just goes to show he absolutely refuses and has refused to take responsibility for the performance of the team.

I actually think he got it good off our fan base considering...if he was at any other big club in England or abroad he would have been hounded out seasons ago!!!

Cripps
23-04-2018, 03:59 PM
Why, Where has he gone?

They found his stash of DVDs.

Cripps
23-04-2018, 04:02 PM
TBF to Silent Stan. He did send his son Josh to see what the truth of the matter was and what was ailing the natives. The empty seats defo had an impact. Word got back to him. Even billionaires hate seeing money walk out the door.

At least we have a strategy that we know works now if they start taking the piss in the future. Just don't turn up :shrug:

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
23-04-2018, 04:07 PM
I think he just can't get over the fact the fans of the club he has grown to love have lost faith in him. Rightfully or wrongfully he is just hurt. Arsenal should pay for the best therapist in the land as a gesture of goodwill.

Marc Overmars
23-04-2018, 04:08 PM
I actually think he got it good off our fan base considering...if he was at any other big club in England or abroad he would have been hounded out seasons ago!!!

I agree, he did have it very good. It's only the last few seasons where patience finally ran out for everyone, I'd say after 15/16 it got personal and it was never the same again. That bogus 2nd place finish being thought of as something more was nonsense.

Prior to that he had enough good will and most people were still sentimental enough to persevere with him simply because we didn't know any different. This despite repeated mistakes, embarrassing defeats and pretty much zero in the way of progress. He had more opportunities to get it right than any manager could possibly dream of getting these days.

Niall_Quinn
23-04-2018, 04:24 PM
I think he just can't get over the fact the fans of the club he has grown to love have lost faith in him. Rightfully or wrongfully he is just hurt. Arsenal should pay for the best therapist in the land as a gesture of goodwill.

I don't think it's that at all. I believe he's always looked on the fans as a necessary evil at best. He's never shown much respect. Never given any credence to the idea fans might have a different opinion because he considers himself a master of the game and those looking on as too incompetent and unaware to have a valid opinion. He's the one who made all the substitutions, he's the one that has signed hundreds of players, we've done none of that so the possibility of us having a view on what has been going wrong can be (and has been) ignored. Our job is to pay, turn up and be "loyal" so (as he says himself) the image of Arsenal Football Club can be presented in the right light. His image, he means, of course. Dissenters are bad for the club. And whether he was bothered by the empty seats or just too arrogant to care, he still felt the need to downplay it all, explain it away, remind everyone that revenues were steady. Yes, we have their money so we couldn't give a shit if they turn up or not. That was the impression at least.

He never wanted to be loved - just obeyed. He never wanted fans to have faith in him, he wanted their unconditional loyalty. A throwback to old style tribalism before the money and the mercenaries arrived. But if you want a 60K stadium half filled with day-trippers and invisible corporateers then don't be surprised if the tribal loyalty is diluted.

Flavs
23-04-2018, 04:25 PM
My sympathy for Wenger is wearing pretty thin now.

REVELATION!

Flavs
23-04-2018, 04:27 PM
Agreed.

A true Arsenal great.

:hug:

Letters
23-04-2018, 04:30 PM
I don't think it's that at all. I believe he's always looked on the fans as a necessary evil at best. He's never shown much respect.
Have you listened to football fans?
On average, they don't deserve that much respect tbh.

Niall_Quinn
23-04-2018, 04:36 PM
Have you listened to football fans?
On average, they don't deserve that much respect tbh.

Our fans? Really? Apart from a few twats at a station in Stoke (IIRC) he's had the easiest ride imaginable. A good 5 or 10 years past his sell-by date the majority of fans were still wondering should he stay or go. Most managers would beg for such a docile bunch of fans.

Özim
23-04-2018, 04:37 PM
Have you listened to football fans?
On average, they don't deserve that much respect tbh.

I dunno, they're the customer, they're the ones that essentially pay the salaries and the costs, on that basis they do deserve respect.

Wenger gives the fans no respect, you won't find many other managers that have blamed fans for the clubs failings, never mind repeatedly blaming them, it shows a certain level of self importance.

Özim
23-04-2018, 04:38 PM
Our fans? Really? Apart from a few twats at a station in Stoke (IIRC) he's had the easiest ride imaginable. A good 5 or 10 years past his sell-by date the majority of fans were still wondering should he stay or go. Most managers would beg for such a docile bunch of fans.

Yup spot on, as I said before he's had it very easy, I can't think of any other club where the fans would have given him so much support for so long, the guy took it for granted to be honest and clearly never appreciated it and thought he just deserved it.

Goonermerree
23-04-2018, 05:24 PM
At least we have a strategy that we know works now if they start taking the piss in the future. Just don't turn up :shrug:

Can we get rid of Kranky by doing the same thing?

Cripps
23-04-2018, 05:29 PM
Can we get rid of Kranky by doing the same thing?

I think we could yeah :unsure: he won't want to be part of a company where the bottom line deteriorates because of his presence :unsure:

rodders
23-04-2018, 06:42 PM
Sad comments from Wenger clearly even now he is unable to grasp that he lost the plot some years ago. He was of course serially betrayed by a number of the squad. Van Persie, Anelka, Nasri, Cole ,Fabregas to name but a few.

scallywag
24-04-2018, 07:39 AM
4 words....thank feck for that.

A Gunner
24-04-2018, 11:56 AM
Personality?

The media are whipping this up a little, but Wenger doesn’t help himself. Before he goes, he has to clear this up. Him saying his personality was in the way suggest fans had a personal issue with him and not the performances. It’s quite simple. The results weren’t good enough. If he had said the club as a whole weren’t happy with the results and felt it was time for a change, that would have side stepped all the bullshit. He knows how to duck these sort of questions and this really doesn’t help change the image of the fans or help bring unity. It strengthens the division and he knows that what he says will create headlines which is why he should have been more careful with what he says. If people can argue that Wenger has been shielding the Board (Ollie Holt) from criticism and taking all the bullets, why can’t he do the same with the fans at this moment?

I think everything can be read in different ways. I see it as he blaming himself, that his personal defects causes error in judgement professionally. It doesn't mean he said fans have a personal issue with him. But looking at the comments here, some of us clearly do.

selassie
24-04-2018, 12:42 PM
I think everything can be read in different ways. I see it as he blaming himself, that his personal defects causes error in judgement professionally. It doesn't mean he said fans have a personal issue with him. But looking at the comments here, some of us clearly do.

Maybe, I don't even know why the fans had to be mentioned?

Moreover...I don't think anybody thinks Arsenal's global image has been tarnished over the years due to lack of success. We are still a big club...these days we have a reputation for underachieving...which is what has been happening....We can all unite as much as we want but if we are not happy with the team performance then we have a right to say so.

I think it's more a case of those who saw what has been happening at Arsenal wondered why he wasn't given his marching orders quite some time ago.

Many friends of mine who support rival big clubs were surprised Wenger wasn't given the chop after Leicester won PL.

Özim
24-04-2018, 01:07 PM
I think everything can be read in different ways. I see it as he blaming himself, that his personal defects causes error in judgement professionally. It doesn't mean he said fans have a personal issue with him. But looking at the comments here, some of us clearly do.

He's pointed the finger at the fans numerous times before so I don't believe that personally, he's quite bitter IMO as he still thinks he should be in the job because by his own standards he was succesful.

As Selassie said, there was no need to even mention the fans, he chose to and he knew what he was doing, it was a thinly veiled dig at them for not blindly continuing to support him.

Cripps
24-04-2018, 01:08 PM
:patrice:

Niall_Quinn
24-04-2018, 01:26 PM
Maybe, I don't even know why the fans had to be mentioned?

Moreover...I don't think anybody thinks Arsenal's global image has been tarnished over the years due to lack of success. We are still a big club...these days we have a reputation for underachieving...which is what has been happening....We can all unite as much as we want but if we are not happy with the team performance then we have a right to say so.

I think it's more a case of those who saw what has been happening at Arsenal wondered why he wasn't given his marching orders quite some time ago.

Many friends of mine who support rival big clubs were surprised Wenger wasn't given the chop after Leicester won PL.

One more season of Wenger and I believe our reputation for playing decent football would be lost too. It has been a good few seasons of trading on that legacy but the cat was escaping the bag. Wenger and the board are responsible for damaging the reputation of the club. The underachievement, selling our star players, making up the numbers in the CL, the thrashings at the hands of our rivals, the inexplicable transfer windows, all those things that genuinely big clubs don't do. The only thing we were consistently good at was making money. Wenger boosted our financial reputation while the football fell into disrepair. A well managed club, everyone would say. But they didn't mean on the pitch, they meant on the balance sheet.

fakeyank
24-04-2018, 01:54 PM
He withdrew from the board a while back.

Im guessing Big Uncle has told him to stop fraternizing with us degenerates and anti establishment reprobates.

Just a guess. Him being a Copper and all that.

Oh thank f*ck for that. I didnt like him at all. Hopefully he doesnt come back.. what a waste of oxygen!

Cripps
24-04-2018, 02:15 PM
Oh thank f*ck for that. I didnt like him at all. Hopefully he doesnt come back.. what a waste of oxygen!

:haha:

Marc Overmars
24-04-2018, 03:14 PM
Anyone see that documentary on Channel 5 about the Wenger-Fergie feud? Nothing we haven't heard of many times before but it was a nice nostalgia trip.

Shame we couldn't keep up with them in the end, those years were great before Abramovich turned up and ruined everything.

Power n Glory
24-04-2018, 05:25 PM
I think everything can be read in different ways. I see it as he blaming himself, that his personal defects causes error in judgement professionally. It doesn't mean he said fans have a personal issue with him. But looking at the comments here, some of us clearly do.

Maybe I missed something in the quotes or interview, but where does he admit that he's made errors and that's the reason for our poor performances? Where does he say that he is stepping down because he feels he's no longer up to the task? Heck, I'm sure I saw a another quote there where he says something about the fans needing to accept loses.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
24-04-2018, 06:09 PM
Oh thank f*ck for that. I didnt like him at all. Hopefully he doesnt come back.. what a waste of oxygen!

:lol: :lol: !!!

selassie
24-04-2018, 09:06 PM
Maybe I missed something in the quotes or interview, but where does he admit that he's made errors and that's the reason for our poor performances? Where does he say that he is stepping down because he feels he's no longer up to the task? Heck, I'm sure I saw a another quote there where he says something about the fans needing to accept loses.

Yep, I read that about the losses too. It’s like he was saying we should be grateful that he is manager and the club is still running and we should respect the clubs values blah blah blah

He absolutely refuses to take any responsibility for a drop in the teams performance!

Like does he honestly expect us to be happy with playing second fiddle to the Spuds!

We are not part of the top 4 group anymore, we are absolutely miles behind and Wenger is 100% responsible for that!

A Gunner
25-04-2018, 12:09 AM
Maybe I missed something in the quotes or interview, but where does he admit that he's made errors and that's the reason for our poor performances? Where does he say that he is stepping down because he feels he's no longer up to the task? Heck, I'm sure I saw a another quote there where he says something about the fans needing to accept loses.

That's why I say things can be read in different ways. I can't be bother to look up the transcript, but the fans thing was the first thing he said and the last thing he said, on the transcript I read. And the first time was when he said the empty stadium thing and how it gives us a bad name. Then the last thing he mentioned, was the personality thing. I just see it as him saying he made an error in judgement in staying on.

I want to add also, I'm living far away these days, I know it hurts you guys way more, because I'm not paying for it.

Cripps
25-04-2018, 06:56 AM
Philippe Auclair: "Arsène Wenger is furious to have to leave Arsenal... I am convinced that it was not his choice... The Arsène that I spoke with yesterday is not an Arsène who wants to leave Arsenal, he is the opposite." (RMC)

:pal: :wave:

KSE Comedy Club
25-04-2018, 07:40 AM
That's why I say things can be read in different ways. I can't be bother to look up the transcript, but the fans thing was the first thing he said and the last thing he said, on the transcript I read. And the first time was when he said the empty stadium thing and how it gives us a bad name. Then the last thing he mentioned, was the personality thing. I just see it as him saying he made an error in judgement in staying on.


No, not at all.

Generally when someone talks about something at the start of a specific conversation and then brings it up again towards the end of it, it usually means its bothering the person more than they like to admit. Really he wants to shout out how we are all a bunch of ungrateful cunts and we should be worshiping him as a god - but he can't do that in reality.

He certainly doesn't think he made an error in judgement in staying on.

It cannot be interpreted in that way at all, as there is nothing he says that alludes to it in any way, shape or form.

Cripps
25-04-2018, 11:54 AM
Wenger on future plans: "Honestly I don’t know what I will do. Will I take a little rest? I will continue to work, that is for sure."

:pal:

The Emirates Gallactico
25-04-2018, 12:00 PM
Deschamps is going to squander all of France's abundance of talent this summer so he'll probably get the French national team role offered to him after the WC.




Philippe Auclair: "Arsène Wenger is furious to have to leave Arsenal... I am convinced that it was not his choice... The Arsène that I spoke with yesterday is not an Arsène who wants to leave Arsenal, he is the opposite." (RMC)

:pal: :wave:

Time heals all wounds so he'll hopefully understand this decision a few years from now when he's had time to process it and he gets to see us (hopefully) have an improvement under a new manager.

Xhaka Can’t
25-04-2018, 12:17 PM
Wenger now pretty much confirms he has been sacked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43896201

Cripps
25-04-2018, 12:36 PM
:pal:

Niall_Quinn
25-04-2018, 12:55 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43846363

When the money came back he could only compete for FA Cups. And have a look at those barren years to decide if the fans really were unreasonable.

Mac76
25-04-2018, 02:38 PM
Wenger now pretty much confirms he has been sacked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43896201

seriously, they give him the chance to leave with dignity as though it was his idea, and he totally messes it up - who'd have thought his strategic thinking could be so bad - apart from anyone who's seen us play over the last ten years, that is...

GP
26-04-2018, 11:10 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbnYncCWkAAE55b.jpg

Cripps
27-04-2018, 11:19 AM
16 days :patrice:

Bumble
27-04-2018, 12:04 PM
16 days :patrice:

is that assuming we don't make the Europa league final?

Niall_Quinn
27-04-2018, 03:58 PM
Can we have a countdown clock at the top of the forum?

Make it so.

Letters
27-04-2018, 04:29 PM
Can we have a countdown clock at the top of the forum?

Make it so.

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20180513T17&p0=136&msg=Till+Arsene+Wenger+Leaves&font=cursive

Özim
27-04-2018, 04:53 PM
16 days :patrice:

Will be one of the greatest days in the history of Arsenal :dancingman:

Xhaka Can’t
27-04-2018, 05:09 PM
Where does it rank amongst the titles and FA Cups?

Does it surpass the day we beat Leicester to finish the league season unbeaten? Or was that the day you were dreaming of the day Wenger left?

Özim
27-04-2018, 05:33 PM
Where does it rank amongst the titles and FA Cups?

Does it surpass the day we beat Leicester to finish the league season unbeaten? Or was that the day you were dreaming of the day Wenger left?

Ranks above all the FA Cups we've won since 2006 and alongside the titles for sure, 12+ years of his nonsense made sure of that. Besides the successess were so long ago it's getting hard to remember, even the videos of them look terribly dated, shows how long we've been out of the game, good news is the hope is about the return!

Letters
27-04-2018, 05:39 PM
Where does it rank amongst the titles and FA Cups?

Does it surpass the day we beat Leicester to finish the league season unbeaten? Or was that the day you were dreaming of the day Wenger left?
If Zim was an ice cream flavour he’d be Wum and Boring ****

Özim
27-04-2018, 05:44 PM
If Zim was an ice cream flavour he’d be Wum and Boring ****

:console:

Wenger days are over sunshine :dancingman:, what will you fill your life with now :lol:

Cripps
27-04-2018, 07:37 PM
Ranks above all the FA Cups we've won since 2006 and alongside the titles for sure, 12+ years of his nonsense made sure of that. Besides the successess were so long ago it's getting hard to remember, even the videos of them look terribly dated, shows how long we've been out of the game, good news is the hope is about the return!

Spot on

The day Wenger leaves is the 2nd best day we've had under him. The first being the day he announced he's leaving.

Goonermerree
27-04-2018, 07:53 PM
Spot on

The day Wenger leaves is the 2nd best day we've had under him. The first being the day he announced he's leaving.
Sorry but that's rubbish, and I know you're only joking, but there was a time when being an Arsenal fan was great. Doubles, invincibles, you can't argue against those. It's the last 14 years bar a couple of FA cups that things have been wrong.

Xhaka Can’t
27-04-2018, 08:19 PM
Spot on

The day Wenger leaves is the 2nd best day we've had under him. The first being the day he announced he's leaving.

It ranks above the day you came out of the turkey baster, that’s for sure.

Niall_Quinn
27-04-2018, 08:26 PM
George Graham's team still holds the award for best day at Arsenal ever. Anfield 0-2. Never been topped, probably can't be topped. Liverpool were 10 times the club the gypos are now. Unbeatable, or so everybody assumed. We didn't spend half a billion quid to do it either.

Cripps
27-04-2018, 08:29 PM
Sorry but that's rubbish, and I know you're only joking, but there was a time when being an Arsenal fan was great. Doubles, invincibles, you can't argue against those. It's the last 14 years bar a couple of FA cups that things have been wrong.

Joking? I'm being serious. He'll go down as the 3rd best manager we've ever had.

Chapman
Graham
Wenger

Cripps
27-04-2018, 08:30 PM
It ranks above the day you came out of the turkey baster, that’s for sure.

:console:

Niall_Quinn
27-04-2018, 08:30 PM
Wenger to PSG gathering steam. Ideal. Finally get a real manager in and destroy a potential CL rival in the same process. Assuming we don't end up with Rogers.

Niall_Quinn
27-04-2018, 08:32 PM
Joking? I'm being serious. He'll go down as the 3rd best manager we've ever had.

Chapman
Graham
Wenger

Houston
Wenger I
Chapman (based on the record because even I wasn't around to see him manage - although Coney was, so we could ask him)
Graham
...
...
...
Last place Wenger II

Xhaka Can’t
27-04-2018, 08:36 PM
George Graham's team still holds the award for best day at Arsenal ever. Anfield 0-2. Never been topped, probably can't be topped. Liverpool were 10 times the club the gypos are now. Unbeatable, or so everybody assumed. We didn't spend half a billion quid to do it either.

Bin dippers beat gypos every time.

Cripps
27-04-2018, 08:59 PM
Wenger to PSG gathering steam. Ideal. Finally get a real manager in and destroy a potential CL rival in the same process. Assuming we don't end up with Rogers.

:lol: hope he fails

Özim
27-04-2018, 09:40 PM
Wenger to PSG gathering steam. Ideal. Finally get a real manager in and destroy a potential CL rival in the same process. Assuming we don't end up with Rogers.

Yeah that would be perfect, if he lasts more than a year (unlikely), hopefully we can meet them in the CL last 16 and basically get a free hit as we smash them 4 or 5 nil, building teams that bottle it is what Wenger does best.

Cripps
27-04-2018, 09:42 PM
Arsene Wenger offered deal to become world's highest-paid manager - and earn in excess of £24MILLION-A-YEAR
https://t.co/w1DTfSfYwZ
https://t.co/rOfuJUNBw1

Why does he need the money :lol: He milked us for 10 years whilst doing an awful job :lol:

Özim
27-04-2018, 09:43 PM
George Graham's team still holds the award for best day at Arsenal ever. Anfield 0-2. Never been topped, probably can't be topped. Liverpool were 10 times the club the gypos are now. Unbeatable, or so everybody assumed. We didn't spend half a billion quid to do it either.

His teams get slated by some on here, but at least they could defend and could upset the odds, he also didn't spend 14 years being an also ran.

Özim
27-04-2018, 09:49 PM
Arsene Wenger offered deal to become world's highest-paid manager - and earn in excess of £24MILLION-A-YEAR
https://t.co/w1DTfSfYwZ
https://t.co/rOfuJUNBw1

Why does he need the money :lol: He milked us for 10 years whilst doing an awful job :lol:

Talks about PSG there, they don't want him as manager, just as go between, they want Tuchel in there. Makes sense now,shame was looking forward to us getting a free bye in the CL if we ever played them.

Xhaka Can’t
27-04-2018, 10:03 PM
GG was a fantastic manager but his latter years with the Club were getting progressively worse. He also failed to build on his success by not replenishing the squad when needed. He also was no stranger to the panic buy.

But he clearly had something to offer post suspension. Any man who could get that Spurs team to win a trophy was clearly a genius.

Letters
28-04-2018, 07:15 AM
Joking? I'm being serious. He'll go down as the 3rd best manager we've ever had.

Chapman
Graham
Wenger

:lol:

Cripps
28-04-2018, 07:58 AM
Arsene Wenger recalls being offered Manchester United job after Sir Alex Ferguson announced retirement | @JackPittBrooke
https://t.co/hwm9H9cHA1
https://t.co/p6gXp11OBS

Bet they're relieved he didn't go and destroy their club :lol:

Letters
28-04-2018, 08:51 AM
WUMming :bow:


:yawn:

AFC Leveller
28-04-2018, 09:10 AM
Unai Emery would be my first choice. Really like the way his teams play and his attention to detail.

Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
28-04-2018, 09:15 AM
I don't really get how a man as vociferously principled as Wenger can manage the grotesque beast that is PSG anyway.

Mac76
28-04-2018, 09:48 AM
Arsene Wenger recalls being offered Manchester United job after Sir Alex Ferguson announced retirement | @JackPittBrooke
https://t.co/hwm9H9cHA1
https://t.co/p6gXp11OBS

Bet they're relieved he didn't go and destroy their club :lol:

that's an alternative reality i'd love to have been in - where he relegates Moan U :jumpnana:

Globalgunner
28-04-2018, 01:05 PM
The united hierarchy must really believe in their own invulnerability. They believe the club can withstand any sort of crap manager. After the succession of chumps that followed SAF. I`m sure they are not so cocky now.

The Emirates Gallactico
28-04-2018, 01:09 PM
PSG abandon their pursuit of Tuchel and get Wenger.

We get Tuchel.

:pray::pray:



And despite what people say Wenger was never in it for the money so he's not going to China or the Middle East.

Cripps
28-04-2018, 01:31 PM
15 days :patrice:

Cripps
29-04-2018, 06:10 PM
14 days :patrice:

Cripps
01-05-2018, 09:28 AM
12 days :patrice:

Cripps
02-05-2018, 02:08 PM
11 days :patrice:

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 10:24 AM
Few rumours going round that the West Stand will be named after Wenger.

Letters
03-05-2018, 10:33 AM
Few rumours going round that the West Stand will be named after Wenger.

Someone on FB, who used to be on here...Lancashire Gooner or something?
Anyway, he said the whole stadium should be named after him. Don't agree with that but a stand seems reasonable.

The Emirates Gallactico
03-05-2018, 10:37 AM
10 days :patrice:



And I don't think that Emirates would be happy if we renamed the stadium after Wenger given we've got a deal till at least 2028 with them. Stand seems reasonable but we don't really have them as it's a bowl so it's a bit odd.

Statue I feel is sufficient.

GP
03-05-2018, 10:43 AM
He can have a statue but only if it's made by the same guy who did the Ronaldo one.

Letters
03-05-2018, 10:48 AM
https://hips.hearstapps.com/esquireuk.cdnds.net/17/10/768x382/gallery-1489057392-art-attack-e1488974541296.jpg

Cripps
03-05-2018, 11:34 AM
Exclusive: Wenger wants to treat Burnley’s visit as a normal game despite its personal significance after 22 years at #AFC and is eager to avoid being the centre of attention, reports @MattHughesTimes https://t.co/LCWFsgcJZh

:lol: is he bitter and angry? Or does he realise he's not liked?

Letters
03-05-2018, 11:38 AM
He's not liked by a handful of intertwats, that's about it.

Cripps
03-05-2018, 12:06 PM
Are you starting again?

Letters
03-05-2018, 12:13 PM
Are you?

The Emirates Gallactico
03-05-2018, 12:26 PM
Christ guys, he's leaving. Can we stop with the silly names & petty insults about him now?

He's kind a humble guy about this stuff so it doesn't surprise me. Not sure how that's an exclusive though from Matt Hughes?

Cripps
03-05-2018, 12:33 PM
Are you?

By doing what? Stating a fact and saying he's not liked by a proportion of our fan base?

Xhaka Can’t
03-05-2018, 12:44 PM
Christ guys, he's leaving. Can we stop with the silly names & petty insults about him now?

He's kind a humble guy about this stuff so it doesn't surprise me. Not sure how that's an exclusive though from Matt Hughes?

Shut up twatface

Letters
03-05-2018, 12:51 PM
By doing what? Stating a fact and saying he's not liked by a proportion of our fan base?

And all I did is suggest that that proportion is very small and mostly prevalent on places like this. I don't think that most of the fanbase actively dislike him even if they do think he stayed too long.
I think he'll get a good send off on Sunday and I think he deserves to.

Letters
03-05-2018, 12:51 PM
Shut up twatface

And people say that intelligent debate doesn't happen on here any more :cool:

GW :bow:

Globalgunner
03-05-2018, 12:52 PM
Hes got a bust...and I think that rather appropriate.

They can name the training arena after him specially given he built it himself brick by brick.

"The Wenger passing academy"

Cripps
03-05-2018, 02:19 PM
And all I did is suggest that that proportion is very small and mostly prevalent on places like this. I don't think that most of the fanbase actively dislike him even if they do think he stayed too long.
I think he'll get a good send off on Sunday and I think he deserves to.

You done it in a typically insulting way. Once again you started it :shrug:

Xhaka Can’t
03-05-2018, 03:36 PM
Hes got a bust...and I think that rather appropriate.

They can name the training arena after him specially given he built it himself brick by brick.

"The Wenger passing academy"

The bust was one thing I never agreed with. It was symptomatic of the awe in which the board held him. It was a physical manifestation of what was wrong with the culture within this Club.

Even at the height of his success, it was inappropriate. Honours like this should never be made while someone is still in the employ of the Club.

Globalgunner
03-05-2018, 03:41 PM
The bust was one thing I never agreed with. It was symptomatic of the awe in which the board held him. It was a physical manifestation of what was wrong with the culture within this Club.

Even at the height of his success, it was inappropriate. Honours like this should never be made while someone is still in the employ of the Club.

Shows you the mentality of the dopes that were running the club at the time. No wonder Wenger thought himself unsackeable. Walk into your office and there is an effigy of you in the hallway. Only Trump does that. I doubt Bill gates has a building named after him at Microsoft.

KSE Comedy Club
03-05-2018, 03:46 PM
Not sure I want the West Stand to be called 'The Peado Stand' :shrug:



:ninja:
:getcoat:

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 03:47 PM
Christ guys, he's leaving. Can we stop with the silly names & petty insults about him now?

He's kind a humble guy about this stuff so it doesn't surprise me. Not sure how that's an exclusive though from Matt Hughes?

The arrogance which has exuded from him over the past few years suggests he probably isn't as humble as you think. The fans dared to have an opinion when it was clear we were going backwards and he never accepted it, even now he probably still thinks he is the best man for the job.

I read today that tickets are going for extortionate prices for the Burnley game, so people do want to say goodbye respectfully but I do think he has alienated a portion of the fanbase and that's a shame.

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 03:47 PM
Not sure I want the West Stand to be called 'The Peado Stand' :shrug:



:ninja:
:getcoat:

Seriously?

Letters
03-05-2018, 03:48 PM
Seriously?

:lol:

I'll be honest, it made me lol.

GP
03-05-2018, 03:51 PM
Call him a paedo all you like, at least he's never tried grooming 2 girls from Hull.

KSE Comedy Club
03-05-2018, 04:34 PM
Seriously?

It was a very tongue in cheek joke :)

KSE Comedy Club
03-05-2018, 04:35 PM
:lol:

I'll be honest, it made me lol.

:hug:

GP
03-05-2018, 06:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN8Yh6Vglns

McNamara That Ghost...
03-05-2018, 09:23 PM
Does Wenger leave us in a worse state than when he joined us?

I'm not sure personally but there isn't much in it really.

Xhaka Can’t
03-05-2018, 09:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN8Yh6Vglns

His shirt is impeccably ironed.

Niall_Quinn
03-05-2018, 09:28 PM
Does Wenger leave us in a worse state than when he joined us?

I'm not sure personally but there isn't much in it really.

We're very much worse off as a football team.

As a football club we're much better off.

And that's the problem right there.

Letters
03-05-2018, 09:35 PM
Does Wenger leave us in a worse state than when he joined us?

I'm not sure personally but there isn't much in it really.

Interesting.

You know, I'm not sure. Better in some ways, worse in others. But some of the worse things are because of how football has gone.

Xhaka Can’t
03-05-2018, 09:44 PM
He improved us at breakneck speed and brought us back to how he found us at the pace of a snail on Valium.

Letters
03-05-2018, 09:48 PM
We're in a (fairly small) group of clubs who can compete financially, or attempt to. I'm not sure we would have been without Wenger's early success with us.
I don't feel as connected to the club or the players as I did but I think that's just how football has gone, and maybe me getting older. That's not all on Wenger.

Niall_Quinn
03-05-2018, 09:59 PM
Sunday 6th May 2018
Arsenal v Burnley

Wednesday 9th May 2018
Leicester v Arsenal

Sunday 13th May 2018
Huddersfield v Arsenal

Can we win any of those?

Theoretically we win all three. But zero points away in 2018, no matter who the opposition is? Repeat that and we'll need all 3 points on Sunday to hang on to the 6th Place Trophy.

Letters
03-05-2018, 10:00 PM
Think we'll win on Sunday.
Other two. Meh on a stick.
Honestly don't care any more.

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 10:01 PM
How great a manager can he be considered to be without a European honour to his name?

It’s a huge black mark against him, you can’t seriously compare him to the greats of the game.

Xhaka Can’t
03-05-2018, 10:04 PM
How big a club can we be considered given our European history?

Letters
03-05-2018, 10:07 PM
How great a manager can he be considered to be without a European honour to his name?

It’s a huge black mark against him, you can’t seriously compare him to the greats of the game.

It's definitely a big failing of his. Frankly he never got the best out of that team from 2002-4, that was one of the great club sides and should have retained the title and won a CL.

Niall_Quinn
03-05-2018, 10:07 PM
Anyone know if Ozil is free for any of our last few games?

Niall_Quinn
03-05-2018, 10:08 PM
How big a club can we be considered given our European history?

We're a big club domestically. Right up there really.

But on the European stage we're not up to much. We're like a lightweight Porto, always hanging around but never really getting involved.

Xhaka Can’t
03-05-2018, 10:10 PM
Anyone know if Ozil is free for any of our last few games?

As free as £300k pw can be.

Letters
03-05-2018, 10:10 PM
How big a club can we be considered given our European history?

Hmm. Although...Forest won it and retained it. Villa won it. They're not big clubs now.
For a club our size our record isn't pretty poor in Europe. That's not the only metric of a big club though.

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 10:12 PM
We're a big club domestically. Right up there really.

But on the European stage we're not up to much. We're like a lightweight Porto, always hanging around but never really getting involved.

That’s an insult to Porto. They’ve won the big one twice and this Europa thing a couple of times for good measure.

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 10:14 PM
Anyone know if Ozil is free for any of our last few games?

Nah he’s got more annual leave planned.

Niall_Quinn
03-05-2018, 10:20 PM
Nah he’s got more annual leave planned.

Weird contract he has. When he was on 120k he played twice as much as he now plays on 300k. I guess if he gets 600k on his next deal he won't have to turn up at all.

As predicted, his lack of game time really hurt us tonight. And the lack of a balance and well drilled team that should have been playing those "insignificant" games like the one against Utd. The first team has been on holiday for weeks now. All so they could be saved up for tonight.

For what?

Marc Overmars
03-05-2018, 10:30 PM
Resting players is such a fallacy. Hopefully the new coach understands the importance of momentum and having a well drilled team that can gain rhythm and understanding by consistently playing together.

KSE Comedy Club
03-05-2018, 10:40 PM
Anyone know if Ozil is free for any of our last few games?

No thanks, he’s fucking shite now :good:

Mac76
05-05-2018, 10:42 PM
Wenger going and now Stoke relegated = no trip to Mordor next season - it just gets better and better :good:

Niall_Quinn
06-05-2018, 10:11 AM
Ollie Holt, comparing Wenger to Jesus. The players and the fans let him down. Abramovich is to blame too. Age caught up as the whole world conspired against him. The Messiah.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-5694969/Doncaster-boss-Darren-Ferguson-misses-final-match-season-severe-family-issue.html

Have a bucket at the ready before reading it.

Xhaka Can’t
06-05-2018, 10:40 AM
To be fair, Jesus had no success in Europe either

GP
11-05-2018, 09:26 AM
Loook, uhh, I feel little bit not so good.

https://www.trollfootball.me/upload/full/2018/05/03/arsene-wenger-euhhh-look-believe-me-i-dont-feel-so-good.jpg

McNamara That Ghost...
11-05-2018, 10:27 AM
Bye.

Letters
11-05-2018, 10:49 AM
Is he leaving or regenerating? :unsure:

Mac76
11-05-2018, 01:09 PM
Is he leaving or regenerating? :unsure:

either's fine with me - as long as they change the locks to the stadium once he's out of the building on Sunday...

Master Splinter
11-05-2018, 05:43 PM
I believe Thanos has made an exceptional global impression.

Is he a bigger monster than Mourinho?

As well you know, we do not like to speculate on individual cunts.

Letters
12-05-2018, 11:59 AM
either's fine with me - as long as they change the locks to the stadium once he's out of the building on Sunday...

But then he'll never be manager of Huddersfield :unsure:

Mac76
13-05-2018, 10:28 AM
But then he'll never be manager of Huddersfield :unsure:

Well i'm assuming he'll go back to the Emirates to clear his desk of course :lol:

(Hmm, i think i got away with that...)

Globalgunner
16-05-2018, 01:26 PM
Has he gone. Or could he be lying low at Ty' s house waiting for a recall?

Niall_Quinn
16-05-2018, 01:37 PM
I wonder what he's doing?

He's probably spent the last 96 hours with an Oculus Rift strapped to his head playing Football Manager.

Özim
16-05-2018, 02:36 PM
I wonder what he's doing?

He's probably spent the last 96 hours with an Oculus Rift strapped to his head playing Football Manager.

Probably asked the owners of PSG to buy the next Bergkamp so that he can have him there when he takes over next season, then people can rightly credit him for signing him up.