Argentina v Iceland, 14:00 BST, ITV.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How will Messi respond? :popcorn:

Iceland though. :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Messi to score 4?

Might be worth a cheeky fiver.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Argentina: Caballero; Salvio, Otamendi, Rojo, Tagliafico; Biglia, Mascherano; Meza, Messi, Di Maria; Aguero.

Iceland: Halldorsson; Saevarsson, Arnason, Sigurdsson, Magnusson; Gudmundsson, Gunnarsson, Hallfredsson, Bjarnason; Sigurdsson; Finnbogason.

Biglia. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neville the Elder, Evra and Larsson in the studio. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Clattenburg. :lol:

[Özim]

Messi needs to start delivering in these tournaments, there's a question mark about his ability to deliver in games likes this, he's lucky that he's in a very talent International team with lots of top players, needs to start showing how good he is now.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Zebra in the crowd. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Thanks Matterface, in case we had never heard of Ajax before.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Otamendi should've done better off Messi's freekick.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tagliafico flicks on Messi's freekick but just wide.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

What a miss from Sson!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willy gives it away!

Bjarnason should've scored.

[Marc Overmars]

What a chance for Iceland :doh:

[Thierrymon]

:doh:

Gotta put those away.

[Marc Overmars]

Iceland need to take any scrap that comes their way before Messi starts GOATing.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Otamendi goes for it, over it goes.

[Marc Overmars]

The Viking Clap :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Messi smacks it, Halldorsson palms it away.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Argentina 1-0 Iceland, Aguero!

Brilliant finish.

[Marc Overmars]

Aguerooooooo

What a finish

[Özim]

Aguero, brilliant 1-0

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sampaoli. :haha:

[GP]

The Viking Clap :bow:

You can get cream for that

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Messi combs it but saved.

[Marc Overmars]

Iceland are going to get pumped here.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

All week I thought Argentina were playing Israel :doh:

[Özim]

1-1

[Marc Overmars]

SSON!!!!!!!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1. :haha:

Willy having a shocker.

[Thierrymon]

Fingerbangersson!!! 1-1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ragnar Lothbrok. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Otamendi looping header, easily clasped in the air.

[Özim]

Messi very disappointing thus far.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ref dishing out some punishment. :bow:

[Özim]

Messi gets disposessed, doesn't even try to win it back :rolleyes:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Biglia belts it over.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Argentina have had four or five penalties says Hodde.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willy saves!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 HT. :popcorn:

[Marc Overmars]

Iceland not doing too badly despite completing about 12 passes.

[Cripps]

Messi needs to start delivering in these tournaments, there's a question mark about his ability to deliver in games likes this, he's lucky that he's in a very talent International team with lots of top players, needs to start showing how good he is now.

Agreed

As the 2nd best player in the world, there's a real danger he could fall down to 3rd, behind Salah.

[SMatthews]

Why has there got to be this need to constantly compare him and Ronaldo? One does well, the other one gets a dig when not doing so well. It’s just weird. Can’t we be happy they are both exceptional players and enjoy the fact we are lucky enough to see two of the best ever performing at their peak at the same time?

[Marc Overmars]

Why has there got to be this need to constantly compare him and Ronaldo? One does well, the other one gets a dig when not doing so well. It’s just weird. Can’t we be happy they are both exceptional players and enjoy the fact we are lucky enough to see two of the best ever performing at their peak at the same time?

Because the internet.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Biglia off, Banega on.

Maradona in the house.

[SMatthews]

Because the internet.

True. Full of cunts.

[Özim]

If I had to pick one to have for my team it would be Ronaldo, just think because of his stature and athleticism he's harder to stop, not only can he shoot, head, dribble, run with the ball etc but he's also really powerful and will get in there where it hurts to score, Messi is a great dribbler but I've seen him knocked out of his rythm when someone gets more physical with him.

Ronaldo is more of a flat track bully.

Messi ia a great player don't get me wrong, I just think out of the two he's easier to stop, hasn't really stepped up to the plate for his International team either in tournaments, Maradona did a lot more for Argentina than Messi ever has.

[Globalgunner]

Iceland play liker Stoke. Argentina looking like West Ham right now

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pelanty to Argentina.

[Özim]

Aguero winning it for Argentina at mo, has been the star of the show for Argentina.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Messi has it saved!

[Özim]

Messi :lol:

Should have let Aguero take it!

[Goonermerree]

Ha, ha. Come on Iceland.

[Thierrymon]

Lets goooooo Iceland

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Messi :haha::haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Hang in there Iceland! :haha:

[Letters]

:lol:

Messi :rose:

[Cripps]

Messi :haha: :haha: :haha:

Bottles it for his country again :haha: :haha: :haha:

Goonersweb :haha: :haha: :haha:

[Özim]

Messi having another shocker in an Internatioal tournament so far, just not the same player when he doesn't have his Barca teammates only passing to him.

[Letters]

True. Full of cunts.

Welcome to Goonersweb :d

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Messi freekick, over it goes.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

To celebrate I'll go and buy a jumbo pack of chicken nuggets from Iceland tonight!

[Letters]

Messi having another shocker in an Internatioal tournament so far.
You mean, in the first 65 minutes?

I'll judge him at the end of the tournament. :sulk:

[Cripps]

Messi having another shocker in an Internatioal tournament so far, just not the same player when he doesn't have his Barca teammates only passing to him.

:gp:

[Letters]

To celebrate I'll go and buy a jumbo pack of chicken nuggets from Iceland tonight!

Bejam :bow:

[SMatthews]

If I had to pick one to have for my team it would be Ronaldo, just think because of his stature and athleticism he's harder to stop, not only can he shoot, head, dribble, run with the ball etc but he's also really powerful and will get in there where it hurts to score, Messi is a great dribbler but I've seen him knocked out of his rythm when someone gets more physical with him.

Ronaldo is more of a flat track bully.

Messi ia a great player don't get me wrong, I just think out of the two he's easier to stop, hasn't really stepped up to the plate for his International team either in tournaments, Maradona did a lot more for Argentina than Messi ever has.

True but it’s impossible to compare players from different eras and fairly judge their successes and failings at domestic and international level. Especially with the lack of footage available for older players compared to today.

[Özim]

If I was an Argentina player I'd be trying to get the ball to Aguero, the only guy who looks likely to score for them.

[SMatthews]

Welcome to Goonersweb :d

I definitely include myself in my statement.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Banega shoots but too central.

[Özim]

Messi keeps getting dispossed, he's trying to do too much and take on the whole team by himself, needs to be less selfish it's a team game, especially when he's having a bit of a mare today.

[Cripps]

If I was an Argentina player I'd be trying to get the ball to Aguero, the only guy who looks likely to score for them.

:gp:

[Cripps]

Messi keeps getting dispossed, he's trying to do too much and take on the whole team by himself, needs to be less selfish it's a team game, especially when he's having a bit of a mare today.

He doesn't have his Barca buddies around him :lol:

[Özim]

Messi messes up the free kick, maybe he should let someone else have a go, he literally takes all the penalties/free kicks etc this isn't Barcelona.

[Özim]

He doesn't have his Barca buddies around him :lol:

Pretty much :lol:

[Özim]

Messi gives the ball away.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Di Maria off, Pavon on.

[Özim]

Pavon on for Di Maria.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Argentina doing an Arsenal here. Trying to play intricate passes through the eye of a needle against an organised defence.

They need some width.

Dobby the House Elf hauled off.

[Cripps]

Messi messes up the free kick, maybe he should let someone else have a go, he literally takes all the penalties/free kicks etc this isn't Barcelona.

If you're gonna be selfish and take everything at least make sure you do something with it, like Ronaldo :lol:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We're linked with Pavon so it'd be good to scout him here.

[Goonermerree]

If the ref misses something, VAR looks at the incident and advises him. Does it work the other way? If the ref gives a penalty, can VAR overturn the decision?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Should be another pelanty.

[Marc Overmars]

That looked like another penalty :lol:

[Özim]

If you're gonna be selfish and take everything at least make sure you do something with it, like Ronaldo :lol:

Yeah or at the very least if you're having a bad game let someone else have a go :lol:

[Letters]

Should be another pelanty.

Looked more of a pel than the one that was given.

[Goonermerree]

Argentina doing an Arsenal here. Trying to play intricate passes through the eye of a needle against an organised defence.

They need some width.

Dobby the House Elf hauled off.
We might not do that anymore.:yippee:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

There was contact but it was no where near enough to go down like that. Would have been harsh imo.

[Özim]

Messi :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Just wide from Messi.

[Cripps]

Messi :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Meza off, Higuain on.

[Özim]

Messi literally does the same thing everytime, gets the ball and tries to beat the whole defence.

Higuain coming on, hope for Argentina.

[Marc Overmars]

Messi doing a Bale and Stevie Me, going for glory at every opportunity.

[Letters]

There was contact but it was no where near enough to go down like that. Would have been harsh imo.

Not sure what that means, when you're running it doesn't take much contact to go down.
If that had been Arsenal I'd have been screaming for a penalty.

[Cripps]

Should have taken Messi off

[Letters]

Messi literally does the same thing everytime, gets the ball and tries to beat the whole defence.
Doesn't seem to have worked out too badly for him over his career. Isn't having a good game today though.

I think I might start supporting Iceland, they're a lot more fun than England.

[Cripps]

Messi literally does the same thing everytime, gets the ball and tries to beat the whole defence.

Higuain coming on, hope for Argentina.

:gp:

[Özim]

Doesn't seem to have worked out too badly for him over his career. Isn't having a good game today though.

I think I might start supporting Iceland, they're a lot more fun than England.

Might work at Barca where the whole team just pass to him and he has countless chances, but it doesn't seem to work in International tournaments. Maybe he should learn to be less greedy and give someone else a chance, if he'd let Aguero take his penalty they'd be winning.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Doesn't seem to have worked out too badly for him over his career. Isn't having a good game today though.

I think I might start supporting Iceland, they're a lot more fun than England.

ehhh?? As much as it's funny to see Argentina fail, Iceland play like an international version of a Mourinho team.

There are better underdogs to support tbh tbf.

[SMatthews]

Can’t expect Iceland to play any other way with the team they have.

Argentina only just about scraped into the WC, so not too surprising they’re not an organised team.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Five added minutes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Messi puts it over with his chocolate foot.

[Cripps]

:haha:

[Özim]

Messi :lol:

The sooner he realises Argentina aren't a one man team the better.

If they don't win this it's down to him.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Bonkers from Otamendi.

[Marc Overmars]

Free kick for Messi :popcorn:

[Cripps]

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Argentina 1-1 Iceland, FT. :popcorn:

[Cripps]

Ronaldo scores a hattrick

Messi does nothing

:haha: :haha: :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

Iceland :bow:

Messi :haha:

Argentina :haha:

[Özim]

and there lies the difference betwee Ronaldo and Messi ladies and gentleman.

One gets a free kick and at the end of the match and rescues his team and gets his hattrick, the other gets a free kick at the end of the match and fluffs it after missing a hatful of chances.

Messi :lol:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Croatia & Nigeria in this group who aren't mugs either. Argentina could seriously not qualify from the group.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ronaldo scores a hattrick

Messi does nothing

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Both on a point.

Messi economising. :bow:

[Letters]

ehhh?? As much as it's funny to see Argentina fail, Iceland play like an international version of a Mourinho team.

There are better underdogs to support tbh tbf.
Their supporters are a lot of fun though.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

and there lies the difference betwee Ronaldo and Messi ladies and gentleman.

One gets a free kick and at the end of the match and rescues his team and gets his hattrick, the other gets a free kick at the end of the match and fluffs it and misses a hatful of chance.

Hmmm what was Ronaldo's goalscoring record prior to yesterday at the World Cup?

Oh and that was Ronaldo's 45th freekick before scoring from one at tournaments!

[Globalgunner]

and there lies the difference betwee Ronaldo and Messi ladies and gentleman.

One gets a free kick and at the end of the match and rescues his team and gets his hattrick, the other gets a free kick at the end of the match and fluffs it after missing a hatful of chances.

Messi :lol:

Did Ronaldo`s team win yesterday, or did I miss something?

[Cripps]

and there lies the difference betwee Ronaldo and Messi ladies and gentleman.

One gets a free kick and at the end of the match and rescues his team and gets his hattrick, the other gets a free kick at the end of the match and fluffs it after missing a hatful of chances.

Messi :lol:

:gp:

[Goonermerree]

and there lies the difference betwee Ronaldo and Messi ladies and gentleman.

One gets a free kick and at the end of the match and rescues his team and gets his hattrick, the other gets a free kick at the end of the match and fluffs it after missing a hatful of chances.

Messi :lol:

And a penalty. Both are great players, but Ronaldo delivers on the biggest stages, that gives him the edge for me.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Their supporters are a lot of fun though.

You just want to stare at pretty Icelandic girls. Admit it Letters.

[Özim]

Hmmm what was Ronaldo's goalscoring record prior to yesterday at the World Cup?

Oh and that was Ronaldo's 45th freekick before scoring from one!

Hmmm, but how many times has Ronaldo delivered for Portugal, think he has something like 85 goals at International level, he's also won the Euros and scored 3 against Spain when Messi couldn't even get one against Iceland.

Oh and what has Messi done at the World Cup or even the Copa America?

[Marc Overmars]

Croatia & Nigeria in this group who aren't mugs either. Argentina could seriously not qualify from the group.

Messi will sort his life out and drag them out of the group for sure.

[Özim]

And a penalty. Both are great players, but Ronaldo delivers on the biggest stages, that gives him the edge for me.

Yeah me too, to be honest Messi looks a shadow of the player he is at Barca at International level whereas Ronalod looks just as good as he is for Real.

[Özim]

Did Ronaldo`s team win yesterday, or did I miss something?

No but they played Spain one of the favourites, they played a better team and Ronaldo got them a draw, Argentina played a much weaker team and Messi cost them the win.

If he'd let the guy who won the penalty take it they'd have won, Messi has missed 3 of his last 6 penalties, good enough reason to let someone else have a go.

[Letters]

Both are great players, but Ronaldo dives on the biggest stages.
:gp:


:ninja:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hmmm, but how many times has Ronaldo delivered for Portugal, think he has something like 85 goals at International level, he's also won the Euros and scored 3 against Spain when Messi couldn't even get one against Iceland.

Oh and what has Messi done at the World Cup or even the Copa America?

World Cup Final? I don't think he should have won it but he did get Player of the tournament.

You're the one saying Ronaldo steps up for his country, you're the one that needs to justify it. His previous three goals against Ghana, Iran and North Korea if I remember rightly.

Copa America, one of the finals Messi fucked up a pelanty in the shoot out granted but in the other one he scored his.

Gold medalist too. :bow:

[Goonermerree]

:gp:


:ninja:

You should be ashamed for yourself changing a post. Go and ban yourself.

[Goonermerree]

If the ref misses something, VAR looks at the incident and advises him. Does it work the other way? If the ref gives a penalty, can VAR overturn the decision? Does the ref call for VAR?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Yeah me too, to be honest Messi looks a shadow of the player he is at Barca at International level whereas Ronalod looks just as good as he is for Real.

Ronalod. :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Argentina :haha:.

Messi :haha:.

Absolute decrepit cloggers like Mascherano and Biglia (:bow:) on the pitch while Banega and Lo Celso are on the bench. I think Di Maria has had one good game for Argentina in the last five years. They're a completely unbalanced, dysfunctional outfit, so they might as well stick Dybala on and go all-out.

Iceland might be a bit Burnley/Stoke/Bolton but they're also pretty neat and actually try to play when they can. And they don't have the budget of Mourinho/Simeone teams or the riches of the Premier League behind them. For a country of 150 people and a pool of 25 players, it's incredible what they achieve.

Also, time to bring Halldórsson home?

[Cripps]

World Cup Final? I don't think he should have won it but he did get Player of the tournament.

You're the one saying Ronaldo steps up for his country, you're the one that needs to justify it. His previous three goals against Ghana, Iran and North Korea if I remember rightly.

Copa America, one of the finals Messi fucked up a pelanty in the shoot out granted but in the other one he scored his.

Gold medalist too. :bow:

https://www.shine.cn/newsimage/2016/07/11/020160711164800.jpg

[Özim]

Both are great players, but Ronaldo dives on the biggest stages.

:gp:


:ninja:

As a great man once said


So much butt hurt. He’s one of the greats man, let it go.

[Marc Overmars]

Think Evra made a fair point there, it does seem like Ronaldo enjoys the weight of expectation and pressure more than Messi.

[Letters]

https://www.shine.cn/newsimage/2016/07/11/020160711164800.jpg

He's only kissing that because he could see his own face in it.

:cool:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.shine.cn/newsimage/2016/07/11/020160711164800.jpg

Messi has never won it.

[Özim]

World Cup Final? I don't think he should have won it but he did get Player of the tournament.

You're the one saying Ronaldo steps up for his country, you're the one that needs to justify it. His previous three goals against Ghana, Iran and North Korea if I remember rightly.

Copa America, one of the finals Messi fucked up a pelanty in the shoot out granted but in the other one he scored his.

Gold medalist too. :bow:

There you go then, even you don't think he should have won it, so your proving my point. He hasn't really delivered for Argentina, Ronaldo has delivered for Portugal a much weaker team than Argentina.

Ronaldo plays in a much weaker team as mentioned so naturally it's harder for him, makes his acheivements even greater, he may have only scored 3 before but he's won an International tournament and rescued them last night as well against let's face it a team full of stars.

I have justified it, 85 odd goals for them, won the Euros, scored a hattrick against Spain and has won them countless important matches. Ronaldo thrives on the pressure, Messi buckles under it.

[Özim]

Think Evra made a fair point there, it does seem like Ronaldo enjoys the weight of expectation and pressure more than Messi.

Yeah seems like it, look at the free kicks, Ronaldo was totally focussed you could just see he was going to score, Messi today looked pretty unsure and fluffed it.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

There you go then, even you don't think he should have won it, so your proving my point. He hasn't really delivered for Argentina, Ronaldo has delivered for Portugal a much weaker team than Argentina.

Ronaldo plays in a much weaker team as mentioned so naturally it's harder for him, makes his acheivements even greater, he may have only scored 3 before but he's won an International tournament and rescued them last night as well against let's face it a team full of stars.

I have justified it, 85 odd goals for them, won the Euros, scored a hattrick against Spain and has won them countless important matches. Ronaldo thrives on the pressure, Messi buckles under it.

Well I said I don't think he should have won Player of the Tournament, I didn't say he didn't perform.

Argentina don't have anything beside their forwards, there is a gaping hole in midfield and defence which has been the case for a while.

Portugal finished third in their group at the Euros. THIRD. Well done to them for winning it but let's not pretend it was something that it isn't. :lol:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Portugal started off Euro 2016 with a 1-1 draw against Iceland.

This is our their year!

[Özim]

Well I said I don't think he should have won Player of the Tournament, I didn't say he didn't perform.

Argentina don't have anything beside their forwards, there is a gaping hole in midfield and defence which has been the case for a while.

Portugal finished third in their group at the Euros. THIRD. Well done to them for winning it but let's not pretend it was something that it isn't. :lol:

Either way the reality is he hasn't really performed at International tournaments.

Argentina have a lot of quality, yes it's primarily in attack but they should have swept Iceland aside and actually they'd have probably won had Messi not been so greedy and let Aguero take the penalty he won, he's missed 3 of his last 6 now, so he's hardly guaranteed to score. To be honest, a lot of the teams Messi has played in have had a lot of quality in all departments, he's largely been in very strong International teams, some which were fancied to win the tournaments they entered.

They followed the rules of the competition and won it, what it is is they are Champions of Europe, it's a fact and it's written in the history books.

[SMatthews]

Weird

[Mac76]

Messi to score 4?

Might be worth a cheeky fiver.

:pal:

[Marc Overmars]

I actually had a fiver on Griezmann and Messi to score today. :doh: