Brazil v Mexico, 15:00 BST, ITV.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Vela and come on Mexico. :bow:

Mexico do have a lot of victories recently against Brazil but I don't think so this time.

[Letters]

Working :(

Me :pal:

[Cripps]

Neymar to overtake Messi as 3rd best player in the world?

[Letters]

Cripps to WUM pointlessly in virtually every post?
Possibly.

[Goonermerree]

I'm just hoping for good exciting matches today after yesterday's snoozefest. Yesterday reminded me how boring these major championships can be sometime, first group matches can often be a bit cagey, I can understand that, lose your first match and you're in trouble. It takes off after that, some of the most excitement came as group positions change and teams had to go for it. Then come the knockout stages, and with that brings the safety net of penalties. If you can't go toe to toe with a team and hope to win, play negatively, and hope for penalties. Finals can be like that too.

There has to be a better way than penalties, dunno what :shrug: but these games should be the most exciting, even if they're not the best technically, teams having to go for it. They've tried silver goal and golden goal, there must be something better than penalties!!

[Letters]

I'm just hoping for good exciting matches today after yesterday's snoozefest. Yesterday reminded me how boring these major championships can be sometime, first group matches can often be a bit cagey, I can understand that, lose your first match and you're in trouble. It takes off after that, some of the most excitement came as group positions change and teams had to go for it. Then come the knockout stages, and with that brings the safety net of penalties. If you can't go toe to toe with a team and hope to win, play negatively, and hope for penalties. Finals can be like that too.

There has to be a better way than penalties, dunno what :shrug: but these games should be the most exciting, even if they're not the best technically, teams having to go for it. They've tried silver goal and golden goal, there must be something better than penalties!!

Remember this happened last time - the group stages were brilliant and then the quality did tail off a bit in the knockouts, as you say it can all get cagey.
One idea I heard was to have the penalty shootout before the game. Then the team that lost that will have to go for it.
That said, I do love the drama of a penalty shootout. Unless England are involved...

[Goonermerree]

Remember this happened last time - the group stages were brilliant and then the quality did tail off a bit in the knockouts, as you say it can all get cagey.
One idea I heard was to have the penalty shootout before the game. Then the team that lost that will have to go for it.
That said, I do love the drama of a penalty shootout. Unless England are involved...

There wasn't much drama in last night's match, Denmark just capitulated. I think the real drama is only there if you have had a very good match that has ended in a draw, when neither team deserves to lose. I just find it disappointing when matches are dull at this stage of major tournaments.

[Letters]

Both matches yesterday were rubbish. Enjoyed the pens though.

[SMatthews]

Russia had very little choice but to play as they did - at club level you have more time to be progressive while finding a way to protect your goal, but you have to make the best of what you can in the short time available for a tournament. They do very little training inbetween matches too as it’s mostly resting up. When there is such a clear disparity between the quality of both teams one is always going to go super defensive. The second game wasn’t about being cagey - just a result of the two teams cancelling each other out in midfield. Neither had a good striker, if Denmark had more upfront they would’ve won the game in 90 minutes.

[Marc Overmars]

Think this should be a good tie. Hopefully Mexico are as vibrant as they were in their first 2 games.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brazil: Alisson; Fagner, Silva, Miranda, Luis; Paulinho, Casemiro, Coutinho; Willian, Jesus, Neymar.

Mexico: Ochoa; Alvarez, Salcedo, Ayala, Gallardo; Herrera, Marquez, Guardado; Lozano, Hernandez, Vela.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hernandez dyed his hair.

Come on Brazil.

Brazilian fans not caring its time for the Mexico anthem until they've finished.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good chance for Mexico early on.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Weak save from Ochoa.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mexico have been great so far.

[Goonermerree]

More Mexicans there than Brazilian fans. Come on Mexico!!!!

[SMatthews]

Brazil’s defence has been pretty great in the group stage so Mexico need to make their dominance count before the momentum changes.

[Goonermerree]

This match is being played at pace considering the heat.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lozano shoots, blocked by Filipe Luis. Great move though.

[SMatthews]

We need more McCoist co-commentary

[The Emirates Gallactico]

It's reminding me a bit of the Mexico Germany game. Mexico trying to hit on the break though Brazil are a lot better at dealing with it than Germany were with their suicidal high line.

[SMatthews]

Should’ve hit that first time

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Herrera decides not to hit it first time and the chance is gone.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Watching it on TV instead of the live stream and I'm actually in front of Maccy for a change. :trophy:

[Mac76]

Should’ve hit that first time

absolutely

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ochoa shuts down Neymar.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alvarez cleared but Jesus really scuffed that volley.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Pretty decent pressure there from Brazil. Turning on the screw.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Great challenge by Alvarez!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What a tackle from Alvarez.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I swear there was a handball in there.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jesus goes around the houses, shoots, Ochoa saves, poor save as comes right back out but then whoever other shoots next easily has it cleared away.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

We need more McCoist co-commentary

It makes such a difference having former managers that were also players, than just players on commentary.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yeah McCoist has been excellent. Knows what he's talking about usually.

Glad ITV gave Pubis the axe after the Euros.

[Globalgunner]

I remember Brazil once had a player called Wagner Love. He was hilariously bad

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

It makes such a difference having former managers that were also players, than just players on commentary.

Lawro :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Get up Neymar.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Lawro :bow:

His managerial career lasted two years...that long? :blink:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well claimed Ochoa, didn't let something go back out in front of him for the first time this match.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Filipe Luis cynically taking out Vela.

Booked.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Mexico FK straight to Allison.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Awful freekick from Guardado.

[Goonermerree]

Waste of a free kick that.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Old Man Marquez boots it out of play.

[Goonermerree]

Mexico just not getting those passes right when they're up by Brazil's goal.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

0 - 0 HT.

[Goonermerree]

0-0 HT

[Mac76]

pretty lively game so far

Neither team as sharp in or around the box as they could be though Mexico in particular have defended well

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I wonder how much the fact Mexico prepared so heavily for the game with Germany (by all accounts basically all year) will actually go against them. They were prepared so well for that, every player knew what they needed to do, when to press, when to go in behind the full back, but since then they've just looked a bit... insipid.

Abit like Portugal I suppose. They had a specific game plan to deal with Spain, and it went very well, but in the games after that they didn't look great.

Maybe I'm being too harsh. I hope so. Come on Mexico!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Surprised ITV have paired up Billic & MON after last night's crazy.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Old man Márquez hauled off after struggling to handle the pace of this game in this heat.

What a surprise.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Good save by Ochoa from Countiho!

Awful defending!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Good save from Ochoa to deny Coutinho.

[Mac76]

great save!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neymar. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Gallardo. :doh:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

What an idiot!! Could have slip the guy in!

[The Emirates Gallactico]

1 - 0 Neymar

Fuck.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brazil 1-0 Mexico, Neymar tap-in.

[SMatthews]

Little fuckface scores

[SMatthews]

Keeper should've intercepted that.

[Goonermerree]

Come on Mexico. Mexico have never scored a goal against Brazil in a WC.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Hit it you twats!

[Goonermerree]

Surprised ITV have paired up Billic & MON after last night's crazy.

Why, what Happened?

[Goonermerree]

Mexico looking good until they make that final pass.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Herrera booked, will miss the next match.

[SMatthews]

Will.i.an is one hell of a dangerous player when he wants to be.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Alvarez off, Jonathan on.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Why, what Happened?

They seem to despise each other which was made evident yesterday through a lot of petty digs.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neymar. :haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Paulinho just dropped the Ashes.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Pauliho shot saved!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Casemiro booked, he'll miss the next match.

Hernandez off, Jimenez on.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Chicaratio hauled off.

[Mac76]

ochoa doing well to keep the score down

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Vela shot from distance palmed over!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

They have no idea how to pronounce Fagner.

Champion going all in with the Fag-ner.

McCoist being delicate and saying Fa-geena.

[Goonermerree]

They seem to despise each other which was made evident yesterday through a lot of petty digs.

Oh yeah, I didn't watch it all bit I caught a bit of the chatter and wondered what was going on.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

McCoist clued up on his WW2 history. :unsure:

[Goonermerree]

Will Mbappe rough this Brazilian team up if it gets to that?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Another save from Ochoa!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ochoa saves from Willian's howitzer!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOjCpzRnxOY

[Goonermerree]

Mexico should have scored at least once in this match.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Get up Neymar!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neymar scuffs it wide.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

William is really good.

Neymar's shot just wide.

[Mac76]

Willian basically running this game for Brazil

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And on command Neymar rolling about again. :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Neymar :haha::haha:

What a twat.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Neymar horrifically killed.

[Goonermerree]

Oh good Lord Neymar, get up.

[SMatthews]

Fair tackle

[The Emirates Gallactico]

He's literally crying on the pitch. :haha::haha:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Should've stamped on him forcefully, then he really would've died for at least two weeks.

[Goonermerree]

He'll be up and running like a two year old in a minute.

[SMatthews]

Even Brazilians don't love Neymar that much, the little cunt

[Goonermerree]

Did the Mexican do anything to Neymar? They should start banning idiots who go down like they been poleaxed.

[Globalgunner]

To call Neymar a girl is an insult to girls.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Fuck off Blattenberg!

No way was that a red.

[SMatthews]

Shut up Clattenburg no one cares

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Shut up Clattenburg,

He should be rewarded for services to football.

[Goonermerree]

Clattenburg :haha:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Did the Mexican do anything to Neymar? They should start banning idiots who go down like they been poleaxed.

There was a slight step on Neymar's foot but nothing close to warrant that ridiculous over reaction from Neymar.

[Goonermerree]

Shut up Clattenburg,

He should be rewarded for services to football.

:gp:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Neymar died again.

[Goonermerree]

Mexico doing my head in when they get up near Brazil's goal.

[Goonermerree]

Again!!!!! GK

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Paulinho off, Fernandinho on.

[Globalgunner]

Silvinho
:bow:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Jesus Christ.

Anyone But Brazil. Please.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Brazil experts in the dark arts of timewasting.

Ruining the spectacle at the same time.

[Goonermerree]

Jesus Christ.

Anyone But Brazil. Please.

I agree. They were so close to going out too.

[Goonermerree]

Brazil experts in the dark arts of timewasting.

Ruining the spectacle at the same time.

They should just start giving cards out for it or something. It just spoils the game and the WC. They have VAR now so can look at anything that happens.

[Goonermerree]

Get it in the box, you might get a pen.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Coutinho off, Firmino on.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Firmino on for Countinho.


Mexico corner. Comes to nothing as Vela was offiside.

[Goonermerree]

Bastards Game over

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brazil 2-0 Mexico, Firmino.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

2 - 0 Fiminho.

ALL OVER.

[SMatthews]

Cunts

[Goonermerree]

Come one whoever plays them next.

[SMatthews]

Jesus Christ.

Anyone But Brazil. Please.

You wait until they face England in the final.

5-0 at least.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Up to England to save football.

[Globalgunner]

Game over
was that Firminho`s first touch?

[Mac76]

Jesus Christ.

Anyone But Brazil. Please.

i don't get all the Brazil hate - Neymar's annoying but otherwise they're one of the better teams

or is it the same reason people hate Spain, that they can play a more skillful team game than England's hoofers?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Six added minutes!

[Goonermerree]

6 minutes added on, come on get two and shock 'em. tire them out too for the next round.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Willian off, Marquinhos on.

[Goonermerree]

Neymar on the floor and ignored, so just gets up. Twonk.

[SMatthews]

i don't get all the Brazil hate - Neymar's annoying but otherwise they're one of the better teams

or is it the same reason people hate Spain, that they can play a more skillful team game than England's hoofers?

Favourites deserve all the hate they can get.

And because Neymar.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mexico break our Last 16 exit record. :bow:

[Globalgunner]

i don't get all the Brazil hate - Neymar's annoying but otherwise they're one of the better teams

or is it the same reason people hate Spain, that they can play a more skillful team game than England's hoofers?

Goonersweb has a severe aversion for tika taka of any variety and hate show ponies with a passion

The only thing I hate about this Brazil team is that they are not a patch on the glorious teams that came before them

i have profound love for the 82 and 86 teams. the first that I can remember watching live

[Mac76]

Favourites deserve all the hate they can get.

And because Neymar.

Not if they deserve to be favourites through playing good football

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Brazil 2-0 Mexico, FT.

Belgium or Japan next for them.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Mexico :rose:

The Arsenal of the World Cup. Constantly going out at the R16.

[Mac76]

There we go

Brazil worth the win through WIllian's play alone

Mexico :haha:

Sombreros :haha:

bandoliers :haha:

tequila :haha: (although actually... :cheers:)

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Salsa :haha:

Cripps :haha:

[Master Splinter]

Will they say that Mexico were more bothered about their hair than the match?

Neymar is a megacunt but other than that, Brazil aren't any more unlikeable than your average big team.

[SMatthews]

Not if they deserve to be favourites through playing good football

Fuck that. The same old faces winning, or almost winning, is dull.

Plus, Neymar has enough cuntiness in him for the entire squad. It's the only mantle he'll be taking from Ronaldo.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

i don't get all the Brazil hate - Neymar's annoying but otherwise they're one of the better teams

or is it the same reason people hate Spain, that they can play a more skillful team game than England's hoofers?

To be honest, 90% is down to Neymar. The others I don't particularly care about, except for Jesus being picked ahead of Firmino :wacko:

[Marc Overmars]

It will be interesting to see how Brazil's defence copes against Belgium's firepower in the next round.

[Özim]

Great win for Brazil!

[SMatthews]

It will be interesting to see how Brazil's defence copes against Belgium's firepower in the next round.

I'd say their defence is probably the best in the competition.

[Marc Overmars]

I'd say their defence is probably the best in the competition.

Looks like that way. Which probably makes them the clear favourites.

[Özim]

Come on Brazil, the neutrals favourites and most people's 2nd team after their own nation to win in, plus it's the home of football :bow:

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

I'd say their defence is probably the best in the competition.

Uruguay?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Come on Brazil, the neutrals favourites and most people's 2nd team after their own nation to win in, plus it's the home of football :bow:

Those days have gone, most people think they're boring, functional scrotes.

This ain't 1982.

[Cripps]

He's done it :bow:

Delivered for his country on the big stage :bow:

The transition is complete... Ronaldo, Salah, Neymar then Messi :bow:

[Master Splinter]

Clattenburg is Gazza in an alternate universe where he had a successful post-retirement career and wasn't a fat, wife-beating, alcoholic clown.

[SMatthews]

Uruguay?

Those dudes as well

[Özim]

Those days have gone, most people think they're boring, functional scrotes.

This ain't 1982.

Don't think so, it's just on here.

[Özim]

Brazil are a quality side, top keeper, solid defence and a great forward line, midfield isn't too bad either. Looking good to win the world cup at mo.

Neymar and co :bow:

[GP]

Fagner :lol:

[Niall_Quinn]

i don't get all the Brazil hate - Neymar's annoying but otherwise they're one of the better teams

or is it the same reason people hate Spain, that they can play a more skillful team game than England's hoofers?

Trick question?

The are hateful across the spectrum. And Neymar, of course. Neymar is more than enough tbf. Ridiculously hyped, nonsense player and all around cheat machine. And an absolute cunt as a human being too. No stone left unturned.

The fact they are talented but still opt to engage in the disgusting antics that they are now famous for makes it even worse.

That Danish player who ran into the box and stayed on his feet under heavy challenge is worth 10 Brazils on his own.

[Power n Glory]

Trick question?

The are hateful across the spectrum. And Neymar, of course. Neymar is more than enough tbf. Ridiculously hyped, nonsense player and all around cheat machine. And an absolute cunt as a human being too. No stone left unturned.

The fact they are talented but still opt to engage in the disgusting antics that they are now famous for makes it even worse.

That Danish player who ran into the box and stayed on his feet under heavy challenge is worth 10 Brazils on his own.

It's unreal to hear how harsh you on these hyped players. I suppose now is a good time to have an Ozil conversation. :popcorn:

[Cripps]

NQ is going through a mid life crisis. It can be the only explanation for the highly negative, sceptical, depressive posts.

[Power n Glory]

NQ is going through a mid life crisis. It can be the only explanation for the highly negative, sceptical, depressive posts.

Ozil is the silver lining in that cloud. He'll see the bright side in one player at least. God knows why it's Ozil but so be it.

[Niall_Quinn]

Ozil is the silver lining in that cloud. He'll see the bright side in one player at least. God knows why it's Ozil but so be it.

And yet that's not what my posts have actually said. A minor detail though.

[Power n Glory]

And yet that's not what my posts have actually said. A minor detail though.

I've seen you say Neymar, Messi and Ronaldo are overhyped today. Just wanted to get your opinion on Ozil at this moment.

[Niall_Quinn]

I've seen you say Neymar, Messi and Ronaldo are overhyped today. Just wanted to get your opinion on Ozil at this moment.

Ozil overhyped? Are you serious? He's be crucified since he landed at Heathrow.

So an emphatic no is my opinion. Of course he's not overhyped.

[Niall_Quinn]

NQ is going through a mid life crisis. It can be the only explanation for the highly negative, sceptical, depressive posts.

Your unfaltering fascination is either flattering or stalking. If the former, send me your Ronaldo posters (maximum 100) and I'll sign them for you.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

BBC headline says Neymar starred in the win.

Seriously?

[Niall_Quinn]

BBC headline says Neymar starred in the win.

Seriously?

Of course.

The money must flow.

[Letters]

BBC headline says Neymar starred in the win.

Seriously?

Goal and an assist? :unsure:

[Goonermerree]

Goal and an assist? :unsure:

He did get 3 Oscars, what more do people want!

[Niall_Quinn]

He did get 3 Oscars, what more do people want!

His death?

[Letters]

And an Eric Cantona :bow:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPENfIqZns

[Letters]

Quite right...

http://newsthump.com/2018/07/05/roy-keane-to-properly-duff-up-neymar/

[SMatthews]

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